Kjell Andersen through mailer to me defending Jan Aage Torp and his lifestyle as it was his dearest possession, this is hypocrisy if one is against remarriage!
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/08/no-1306-kjell-andersen-and-skelys-lets.html
I see myself really not Kjell Andersen and Searchlight them to be against remarriage, but defends Jan Aage Torp to such a degree that he is like Job who stands up against everything and everyone !?
Here it "smelt a rat" I am much afraid!
If one is against remarriage, so is also welcomed the preachers who are re-married!
Finished work! Hallelujah!
Image of Jesus who both warned against remarriage, and said that such people would one not mingle. Did a that, then becomes a sharer in their sin!
Here comes some mail exchange between me and Kjell Andersen, where Andersen is "contrary" remarriage. But while defending people like Jan Aage Torp, who is re-married, underpåskudd that they have so much "good". But it does not hold, breaks a one of God's commandments. Has a groundbreaking all, living thus in sin!
James 2 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Hanvold, Torp and everyone else who is re-married as Christians, is any wicked way and shall not inherit the kingdom of God, scripture says. No adulterers shall inherit the kingdom of God, then they must either be reconciled with his first wife, or live single!
But start from the bottom and read up, then you get the context:
He-he!
We in Norway are drittbortskjemte and Jan Aage Torp is even the biggest and worst whine cup!
I have written against him in his own blog, this he goes with a fictional Review Polti to be heard.
No Kjell, here there is much to say, but Jan Aage Torp get again just what he has done.
Torp is so utterly a beaten man, that he tier or speak does not mean anything, he has lost!
He must repent, something I do not think he is capable of?
Had I been in Jan Aage Torp, I had separated me from his wife who is not his wife.
We must begin aright, make up our sin. Ask those we have hurt and wronged for forgiveness!
Your advice here is bad, Andreas Torp is a poor traumatized young man. You kicking really receive a "child" lying down!
He must make up his sin with God. But right now he is so injured that he is unable to see anything but a monster coming toward him, which is actually his own parents, especially the father.
In other words, there are two people who are guilty of this unhappy boy's traumatic life, it's his parents, Ann-Christin and Jan Aage Torp, nobody else.
But just keep kicking other, because they are as bad as Torp who gladly set up just about anywhere he can arrive. Case does not matter, only he is promoting in the media!
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 28 August 2016 7:32 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: torpedo complaints
We conclude that you are actually for remarriage with your doctrine, and we believe that you traps unjust indictment of Torp in relation to for example a woman who marries a divorced.
We can not see that the Bible supports the idea to distinguish between before and after salvation, as you do.
I'm posting something from another debate on the issue, with another person. There is no name
Let me put it this way: A pastor is equated with a regular.
God's word does not distinguish between a priest or horse.
It is not a law for people with BMW in traffic, the same law applies to everyone.
Jesus fulfilled the law, he lifted it ..
There are certainly many who are married and divorced as Christians, but I heard a story
from a congregation of just that,
It was a "brother" and his wife in the church who were married, both were active and
Christians. so it ended in divorce, and the first remarried was
"Brotherly" Hansen.
There was little debate about it and the church opened the door for remarriage that
had been divorced and remarried before they came to faith. They were more skeptical
if Christians sought remarriage.
You know then what Brother Hansen said? Yes, he was not properly saved while he
was his first wife ,, it was only when he met his new that it was
redemption in the Spirit and he was truly saved.
The church bet shown on -then he was a good donor.
Wonder if these had bitten on if there was a new divorce and a new
salvation?
Another I heard about who had the answer, was a brother who apparently
lived away Sarpsborg 80's.
He had is word from the Lord that God would show him the way through to give him
goosebumps if it was yes to what he asked for.
He then asked: Shall I go from your wife? Got so goosebumps after the prayer. Then he went
from his wife.
Should I marry ho new that just is so pretty God? He got goose bumps and
remarried. '
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 28, 2016 4:55 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: torpedo complaints
About it, we've had a long discussion about it, do not know if it has any intention of repeating myself?
I believe that non believers set a completely different than believers, then one that Gentile live and walk in darkness.
But as a believer, live and walk one in the light, that is the children of light!
In my eyes, so live in January Aage Torp far worse than a heathen when he has failed to conformed their own skin and their own lives!
But I think both you and Torp, and everyone else should then ignore me if I did not have no substance in it I come with?
If Torp have a good conscience, why bother about a vile blogger who sympathize with ABB?
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 28 August 2016 4:12 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: torpedo complaints
I have a consistent view of remarriage, while your I mean there are major gaps and deficiencies in.
I do not think you judge fair to Torp vs other
Regards Kjell
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 28, 2016 4:01 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: torpedo complaints
Yes, yes!
Torp is now very, very annoyed!
Why not go ahead with the Lord and ignore what I write and speak if he lives right?
The false Smyrna blog, much of what is written in Searchlights and other places it goes directly against me and on my person.
I try to ignore most of it, and be concerned with the Lord and what he wants for my life and ministry is to anbegale!
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 28 August 2016 3:29 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: torpedo complaints
He is the kind not treated as Jan Kare?
I have the full support of brothers in a number of parishes about the article I wrote about remarriage.
I stand for every word I wrote.
Regards Kjell
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 28, 2016 2:54 PM
Two: 'Søkelts'
Subject: torpedo complaints
January Aage Torp complaints, harp and blame that he is being mistreated at the Heavenly blog, huh-huh!
https://torpblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/28/grensedragning-om-varsling/
Regards
Jan K
Torp's duplicity, it is what creates all the problems with and around him!
That you did not see it, testify against you!
Good night!
Regards
Jan K
From Searchlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 21 August 2016 10:28 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Rome next?
Your opinion
Something with a torpedo itself I, little interessamt debate
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:19 PM
Two: 'Searchlight'
Subject: Re: Re: Rome next?
Hehe!
Torp is extreme, unscriptural and has a morality that is substandard.
Here from Debate, very well written:
This is impossible to understand anything of. That countless women blots on the internet then has nothing to do with my views on women to do? This is the reality that even children with little proficiency in the Internet's search engines know. Why should a debate thread be closed because I point out how many women use the internet? On this thread says I that this is among the many phenomena that make people have a right to establish parallel societies. That society is full of unworthy named as society at large, if anything can be called that, is indifferent to allow it only makes sense if not most people should have the opportunity to distance themselves from social perversions, whether it's about infidelity, blotting, denying fathers visitation rights / custody of their children etc. I remember when well what political debate it was around this last. Integration is not anything to anyone. Many people have an awareness of family, relationships, work ethic, matrialisme and other beliefs qualities that state / municipality can not and will undertake to manage. Then it honorable duty to be aware of what promotes good living qualities and what does not. Simpel entertainment, blotting and promiskuiøs lifestyle is defintiv not such qualities. Anderstorps father probably had such motives as a Christian but has barely can be seen from the outside failed to inform themselves ethically in other arenas. It is similar to an unhealthy need for control and an approach to the spiritual / soul which I can not find coverage in the Bible. From what I have experienced from A.Torps father from the pulpit and other media coverage, it is not difficult to give A.Torp compassion and support. Meanwhile, it can look like that A.Torp not completely understand how society is outside its own context.
(End of quote).
Torp has a gap between life and learning that makes him a hypocrite!
Regards
Jan K
From Searchlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 21 August 2016 10:07 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Re: Rome next?
Torp stands for the truth here, in spite of all that befalls him, he stands firm. He has much in common with Job in the Bible!
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 21, 2016 8:09 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Hehe!
Reformation in asses trying what he is doing, piss it you come by here!
Torp is a Gehenna children, on their way against destruction!
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 21 August 2016 7:58 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Torp service is pointed out the need for a new reformation of Christendom.
Torp is an important servant in this, which is why he meets much opposition from the world's children.
mvh Kjell
Jeremy and Hanvold are together for a reason, that Jeremy points out the world's sin and hatred against Israel, it is important and good!
My calling and prophetic ministry is much more extensive than Jeremy Hoffs message, I also point out church vision, fornication and heresy!
We live in Laodicea time, which church do something about themselves. But the reality and the spiritual condition is the opposite.
Read yourself in Revelation!
Regards
Jan K
From Searchlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 21 August 2016 5:41 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Re: Rome next?
The wicked rage against Torp and the verdict is in God's hands.
It's great that Jeremy and Hanvold stand together
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:08 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
I see this as a begynndedom opposite January Aage Torp.
January came with a fictitious review to me, since it has gone down a road with him down!
First lost in-laws house on fire, so the children and other gåttt against him etc.
January Aage Torp has not offend in any longer!
Regards
January
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 21 August 2016 4:41 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
I have not followed very involved in the debate, as only the regulars of the I stand for miles in from arising.
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 21, 2016 4:15 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Hehe, it's not me who wrote this, just had to test you if you came with.
It is extracted from the values debate, written by Brateli.
See for yourself.
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 21 August 2016 4:05 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Christensen, this writing here is totally ridiculous.
Torp's congregation is no sect and it is not sectarian activities.
This below is not worthy of comment so far is it from virkeligheten-
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 21, 2016 2:36 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
My point is that they are small fine to have a superficial approach the whole issue. Torp's children and others are a victim mildly sectarian activities, there is no doubt. That these should be cared for and assistance to rehabilitation, there is no doubt. There are a lot of other stuff there is doubt and it is time this one should clarify. I've been through this myself, albeit in a different way. I expect that I might want to get reactions of this in old age but it is not certain. It's hopefully a little longer. But there is one thing that here surely Anders Torp will not receive the help I can give him, although I have pity on him and his siblings. He will reject what I have to say exactly how many have rejected what I have pointed out as the cause of what I experienced myself.
I think it's fruitful to cultivate victim role. Journalists grower victim role. Portray yourself as a victim, you are guaranteed media coverage. Doing the stupidity to explain a journalist something about the underlying problestillinger, you're uninteresting. Thus I followed the media coverage of Smith's friends for 25 years and it is not little gibberish that is served by journalists. Journalists are not interested in people who reflect, some qualified opinions and do not propounding other than own agenda. Then they obviously insecure, feel inferior and shadows path. There have been a few exceptions.
Then it should be clear that one should discuss the contents of the parallel society, whether we are talking about university philosophy studies, feminist groups, political parties as Red or nynasister, Muslims, party environments in towns or Christian churches.
I will give a new example from reality, but it does not bother you well you nothing about?
Last night I watched a few episodes of Little House on the Prairie. It is a series that was recorded for kanskje30-40 years ago and is about a small nybyggersamfunn on the American prairie for 130-140 years ago. The series is very family friendly and the Christian worldview emerges in some of the series. Initially reads a text about which so: The publisher will not vouch for the positions shown in the series. Eventually I wondered what stances this was, this was just an ordinary family friendly film without profanity, sex, infidelity, violence, intrigue and other mischief that rolls over our screens year round. I found nothing that was offensive and I understand it nor who it could be offensive for unless one believes a child who asks evening prayer is offensive. When the film was over, I began to wonder if I would ever have otherwise seen a movie where the publisher takes such would keep the contents. I could not think of anything, either on TV or cinema. Then it hit me what social perversions is what we surround ourselves with? A family-friendly film will be equipped with a label on the containers, but no one does it with the destructive films where violence, infidelity, intrigue, envy, murder, robbery and theft is a crucial part of the entertainment element. The situation is as much a social perversion that when people are doing blotting out on the internet.
Another example necessitating parallel society. Approximately the same day that a thread is forced closed because I point out that many women blotting online indicates something about how men look and women experience and consequently is part of sexual morality, then VG lookup where police notes that sex has become the currency and that there Norwegian educational institutions goes sex orgy organized by students.
Where I have the opportunity so I say to immigrants: Do not think about integrating you into the Norwegian society. Be sure to take care of their own familiverdier, own societies and communities. When you send your daughters to Norwegian educational institutions, so you do not know what their daughters Thunders are exposed to or sons you enticed.
Parallel Community is a necessity. It can and must be part of society. It's human right for parents to educate their children to good manners, a safe environment and keep them from secular forces that would pull them out of political idiocy, drug use, unsafe family relations and hedonism. The state manages the åpenabrt not and nor is the state's task.
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 21 August 2016 1:40 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
You had rat up with a Catholic !!
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Sunday, August 21, 2016 24:22 AM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
I agree with Sternhoff here, do not you think that I stand on Andreas Torp's side?
For me he is a product of the couple Ann-Christin and Jan Aage Torp where both were crazy and tyraniske, only difference is that Ann-Christin has acknowledged much, Torp blames this all but themselves.
http://www.verdidebatt.no/debatt/cat12/subcat13/thread11655370/?next=20
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 20 August 2016 8:07 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
There are those of course.
But in this article shoot Anders against far more than his father and Oslokirken.
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:12 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Andrea Torp is nevertheless understands forward by their own pastor parents, Ann-Christin and Jan Aage Torp, or?
I agree with Sternhoff here, do not you think that I stand on Andreas Torp's side?
For me he is a product of the couple Ann-Christin and Jan Aage Torp where both were crazy and tyraniske, only difference is that Ann-Christin has acknowledged much, Torp blames this all but themselves.
http://www.verdidebatt.no/debatt/cat12/subcat13/thread11655370/?next=20
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 20 August 2016 8:07 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
There are those of course.
But in this article shoot Anders against far more than his father and Oslokirken.
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:12 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Andrea Torp is nevertheless understands forward by their own pastor parents, Ann-Christin and Jan Aage Torp, or?
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 20 August 2016 7:03 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:49 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
But he is a product of ........................... Self imagination and a naive congregation who are not so careful with what they invite and cooperate.
There will be no from!
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 20 August 2016 6:42 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
I am considering to comment on that post to Anders
I prefer not your mails from yesterday into it.
Neither bothered I comment on it nonsense to Torodd
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:17 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
He writes only what he has experienced, that there affects all other Christians only shows that all Krit Norway are astray!
But I miss you elaborate and referring more to what you think, or I must very often assume that this mean you!
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 20 August 2016 12:07
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
I think Anders here writes to his father in a way that affects all Christians, as you should see.
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:33 AM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
You do not justify this at all.
I have since never criticized Torp to bring the kids to church, but I criticize Torp is most how he coped with cohabitation.
Find themselves a lady / girl the same age as their own children.
It is obvious that lying spirit has played you a trick, or did you have something up in the glass? You are totally out running with your ratings!
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 19 August 2016 11:24 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
It is enough to Jan Kåre Christensen who is so blinded not you see that this is an attack on all Christian parents in Norway.
It is also an attack on a number of Bible verses and sayings of Jesus actually says in the Bible.
I would say that here are gripped by the spirit of Antichrist -like Anders.
Jan-Aage has done the same as millions upon millions of Christians throughout history have done by giving their children the word of God and take part in meetings and preaching.
That someone falls from the Christian faith is quite normal. Anders Torp was like Levi Fragell not the right soil and then in.
The similarity with Jesus' words are striking: You read the Bible Jan Kåre but do not understand what you read, and you do not realize that using Antichrist argument for taking Jan-Aage Torp.
Amazing.
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Friday, August 19, 2016 11:14 PM
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Yes, it's obvious you are blind.
Torp spread fear, under duress their children.
Rewarded those when they obeyed him, he was, is and will remain to be a psychopath and a mockery apostle,
At the tip of it all, so he marries again with a lady / girl the same age as his own children.
No wonder they hate God, and him!
Can not you see this is both blind and deceived!
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 19 August 2016 10:44 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
I can not see that Jan-Aage Torp has treated their children differently than what is common among Christians in Norway.
Not out of the A T describes
If you do not see it, you are blind
From: Jan Kåre Christensen
Late: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:15 pm
Two: 'spotlight'
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Yes, but he says that his father was a psychopath and he let grow up in misery!
But okay, you see it not as you see it not!
Regards
Jan K
From: spotlight [mailto: sokelys@gmail.com]
Posted: 19 August 2016 10:05 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: Rome next?
Anders is then against his father, not the big news.
Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/08/no-1318-collusion-between-finn-jarle.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/08/no-1317-jan-aage-torp-is-emerging-as.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/08/no-1316-jan-aage-torp-require-payment.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/08/no-1315-anders-torp-has-taken-thurs-1st.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/08/no-1314-if-borgating-come-to-error-in.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/05/no-1207-it-is-my-death-is-jan-aage.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/05/no-1207-it-is-my-death-is-jan-aage.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/08/no-1013-false-apostle-and-fool-tag-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/06/no-979-jan-aage-torps-new-law-lost.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/06/no-977-arvid-bentsen-sick-because-he.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/04/nr-279-christian-people-of-norway-are.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-152-dead-david-wilkerson-before-time.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/nr-60-david-wilkerson-died-
