torsdag 19. september 2019

No. 1460: How and in what ways should we as Christians deal with and deal with unjust people, whether believers or non-believers? What does the scripture say? Part 2

No. 1460:
How and in what ways should we as Christians deal with and deal with unjust people, whether believers or non-believers? What does the scripture say? Part 2


In many ways, it can be said that God treats us according to the light we have. For more light, more responsibility. Therefore, God is "tougher" toward us believers than the children of the world. But in the end, all sin will lead us away from God, it creates a divide. Therefore, we must not let God's goodness fail us to take him seriously. God is not only love, but also our judge and eventual rewards.


The scriptures say:
Joh.e. 1 17 For the law was given by Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Picture of Moses who came with the law, showing all people have fallen short of God's standard.



Deuteronomy 32. 35. I hear vengeance and retribution at the time when their feet tremble; for their day of adversity is at hand;

More recently, I or we have since this also includes my family. Really got to experience wrongdoing and lying people in "free dressage!"

Both believers and non-believers. In this article I will not go into these events too much. Rather focus on how to deal with these people and relate. What does the scripture say? What are the Bible's teachings and practices?

First, there are times when God also judges people "before" time. Still, I would also point out that even in the NT and the new covenant, God does the same as in the GT and the old covenant. He keeps judgment, reveals, and people are ashamed of God and His servants!

After all, God is the same in the NT as in GT, God or Jesus has not changed.

But as a rule, God allows people to "hold on" to what they want and want. Since he has to judge all people. But, nevertheless, we find more places in the NT and the new covenant that God holds judgment. As if we live in GT and the old pact. But then one can say that this is my exception to a rule. In the GT and the old pact it was not so.

In other words, God does not want us to wish the death, doom, or anything of any sinner! But still, all people will lead or later answer for their bread, sin, injustice and everything else they have done. Let's have this clear. But it is not us as believers anymore as in GT and the old covenant in the same way to pronounce judgment. But salvation, life, hope and restoration!

Here are some examples, that even in the NT and the new covenant that God keeps judgment, reveals and people have to pay for their bread before they have to stand before God with their lives.

Room. 1. 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel; for it is the power of God for salvation to every one that believeth, both to Jew first, and then to Greeks;

There is no doubt that God first both blesses and judges those closest to him. We read that it is first for a Jew, and then for Greeks or Gentiles. To that I would say that it is also a pattern, that God first judges us Christians, those who profess Jesus' name, then the world.

We read about the judgment given to the Jews in the year 70. Which Jesus had prophesied about when he went down here.

Matt. 24. 1. And Jesus went out of the temple, and departed, and his disciples came unto him to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 And he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, Here shall not be left stone upon stone that shall not be broken down.

The temple and the temple buildings were the pride of the Jews. But Jesus said that every stone should be removed literally. This happened in the year 70. from Wikipedia.

The destruction of the temple

The Roman triumph that carries the spoils of war from the Temple in Jerusalem, an image on the Arch of Titus in Rome.

In the year 66 AD the Jewish people revolted against the Roman Empire. Four years later, in the year 70, Roman legions under Titus had recaptured and then destroyed most of Jerusalem and the Second Temple. See the siege and destruction of Jerusalem

The Triumphal Arch in Rome, the Arch of Titus, built to celebrate the victory over the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem, shows Roman soldiers guarding Menorá, the seven-armed candlestick used in the temple. Jerusalem itself was leveled to the ground by Emperor Hadrian at the end of the Bar Kokhba rebellion in 135 as he sought to establish a pagan city named Aelia Capitolina.
(quote at the end.)

Here we see that judgment first struck the Jews. And so powerful that they were spread all over the world for almost 2,000 years. Before they returned to their own land, they proclaimed Israel as an independent state on May 14, 1948.

In short, one can say that when a reader eg. John Revelation, then the judgment will hit the church first. As we find in John. Obvious. 2 - 3. Say the judgment will hit the world chapters 4 - 16. Furthermore, the names Christian and religious in John. Obvious. 17 - 18. In other words, God will judge everyone in his "order!"

Then it will take place also other judgments, where God will judge the nations, which we find among others. in Matthew 25. The judgment in front of the white throne, which we find in John. Obvious. 19. Then we also have the judgment or judgment of all believers before Christ's court in 2 Cor. 5. 10.

But in the meantime, especially in GT, but also sometimes in the NT and among us Gentiles, God holds judgment. This is discussed throughout the Bible, including in GT. Just take the time to read the prophets, not least the prophet Isaiah and the other prophets.

By and large, God lets judgment wait, but it will come. In the meantime, it happens from time to time that even in the present time God holds "judgment", and settles with sin, disobedience and unbelief.

The "knit" is longer in the new covenant than it was in the old covenant!

But the wages of sin is always death! This is an unmistakable act throughout the entire Word of God. We must never believe that God is different from what He was in the old covenant. It's just that Jesus has now atoned for sin, the debt is paid. God has decided that we humans need mercy. But we must not miss this grace as we read in God's Word that God will not tire or work with us humans in the infinite. One day, we have lost God's grace.

Genesis 6 3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not judge among men for ever; for its delusion is flesh, and its days shall be a hundred and twenty years.

I wrote in the headline the following:
“How and in what ways should we as Christians deal with and deal with unjust people, whether believers or non-believers? What does the scripture say? ”

Of course, we should punish and point out injustice, sin, and keep the word of God. But above all in the new covenant we must pray for the people. in the Sermons on the Mount.

Matt. 5. 43 You have heard it said: You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do well to them that hate you, and pray unto them that persecute you;

Furthermore, Scripture says that revenge is not ours, but Him.

Room. 12. 19. Do not avenge yourselves, my beloved, but give up wrath! for it is written, "The vengeance belongs to me; I will repay," says the Lord.

I myself have experienced sometimes that God has both judged, and given warnings to people who oppose him and his servants. This happens from time to time, but rarely would I say, because if this had happened as often as in the GT and the old pact, Norway and the world would not have looked the way it looks today. Unfortunately, humans have largely turned their backs on God and the Christian message to an extent that is truly disheartening and alarming.

Example 1:


I have experienced 2 times concrete that there are people who have died by opposing the Lord, and the Lord's words. This I do not want to write more than what I have done in this article. This is extremely extraordinary. But it happened in the days of the apostles, and it also happens in our days.
See here: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/06/nr-325-man-who-died-as-ananias-and.html

Example 2:

When we built a house in Karmøy, we came across a fraudulent contractor who had not done his job for which he was paid. I met him in the conciliation council and there he promised repentance and improvement. He did not keep this. Suddenly even though he had both money and resources to make up for himself. Something he didn't want, not least because that I was a believer was pretty obviously burning his house down completely.

The same happened in the same moment that I got the fine of 10,000, - kr as it was that the house of Pastor Jan Aage Torp's parents-in-law burned down.
This was the same, all this I consider as the warning finger of God that one cannot do as one would to believing people who serve the living God.
Sooner or later, God puts his "finger" down and says that enough is enough!

tirsdag 17. september 2019

No. 1459: Free to download and pass it on Norway's best and most accurate translation of the New Testament is available on our website: http://janchristensen.net/

No. 1459:
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lørdag 14. september 2019

No. 1458: How and in what ways should we as Christians deal with and deal with unjust people, whether believers or non-believers? What does the scripture say? Part 1

No. 1458:
How and in what ways should we as Christians deal with and deal with unjust people, whether believers or non-believers? What does the scripture say? Part 1


If we have resistance, then because we stand for something, be clear!




Deuteronomy 32. 35. I hear vengeance and retribution at the time when their feet tremble; for their day of adversity is at hand;

Room. 12. 19. Do not avenge yourselves, my beloved, but give up wrath! for it is written, "The vengeance belongs to me; I will repay," says the Lord.

More recently, I or we have since this also includes my family. Really got to experience wrongdoing and lying people in "free dressage!"

Both believers and non-believers. In this article I will not go into these events too much. Rather focus on how to deal with these people and relate. What does the scripture say? What are the Bible's teachings and practices?

The Apostle Paul says something to the believers in Asia Minor here.

Efes. 5. 8 For ye were formerly dark, but now ye are light in the Lord; walk like the children of light - 9 for the fruit of the light shows itself in all goodness and justice and truth - 10 as you try what is pleasing to the Lord, 11 and have nothing to do with the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but refute them too!

It is perfectly legitimate from the word of God - also go wrong. This includes unjust people, of course. Sitting down, accepting everything, it is not spiritual or "Christian". On the contrary, Scripture says the following:
"Have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather refute them!"

When the scriptures say this, I have also practiced this to people who have ventured in this way. Whether it is apostles, municipal servants, government employees and who it is now. But there are times when we also have to make a difference to people and act differently. We can be allowed to warn against false brethren, and believe that in a special way God will intervene to judge and reward. As with the copper smith Alexander and Jan Aage Torp who were obviously people who would not conform to the word of God. But went against the word of God and the servants of the Lord.

With the non-believer, we should pray that God “melts” their hearts, as scripture says that revenge belongs to the Lord. At the same time, it is the goodness and love of God that "melts" the hearts and ice that lie there frozen in their hearts and minds.

Room. 2. 4 Or do you despise the riches of his goodness and patience and longsuffering, and do not know that the goodness of God drives you to repentance?

We, both myself and our family, have experienced great injustice towards us from, among other things. The municipality of Oslo, and in fact the entire public Norway.
Almost like Hans Nielsen Hauge, they would take for a relationship that we view today as ridiculous and completely beyond. That one should not have a public meeting where people should come together.

But it is important to understand and act completely differently than what was done in GT and the old covenant towards people who do us wrong. In the Old Covenant, we read about many actually frightening and, in part, horrible things happened to those who went against the people of God and the servants of the Lord. This is basically not the case in the NT and the new covenant!

But there are examples of how God truly judges and punishes people. Here, too, in the past, before we should all be responsible for him, here comes one of many examples from GT and the old pact.

2 Kong. 1. 3 And the angel of the LORD said unto Elijah the tishbite, Get ready, and meet the messengers of the king of Samaria, and say unto them, Is it because there is no God in Israel, that ye go and ask Baal-Sebub, Ekron God? 4 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Thou shalt not come down from the bed into which thou art gone up; you shall die. Thus Elijah went. 5 When the messengers returned to him, he asked them, "Why have you returned? 6 And they said, A man met us, and said unto us, Return unto the king that sent you, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Is it not because there is no God in Israel, that thou sendest to inquire? Ba'al-Sebub, the god of Ekron? Therefore, do not descend from the bed in which you have risen; you shall die. 7 And he said unto them, What was the man that came to meet you, and thus spake unto you? 8 And they answered, There was a man in a shabby robe, with a leather girdle bound about his loins. Then he said, It was Elijah the tithe. 9 And he sent unto him a captain of fifty with his men; And he went up to him, and sat on the top of the mountain, and said unto him, Thou man of God. The king says, Come down! 10 But Elijah answered the captain of fifty, "If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and devour you and your fifty men." Then fire came down from heaven and devoured him and his fifty men. 11 And he sent unto him another captain of fifty with his men; And he answered and said unto him, Thou man of God. Then the king says: Come down immediately! 12 And Elijah said unto them, If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven, and devour thee and thy fifty men. Then the fire of God came down from heaven and devoured him and his fifty men. 13 Then he sent again a third captain over fifty with his men; And this third captain went up to Elijah, and kneeled before him, and prayed him, and said unto him, Thou man of God. Let my life and those of your fifty servants be precious in your sight! 14 Fire went down from heaven and devoured both the first captains over fifty with their men; but now let my life be precious in your sight! 15 And the angel of the LORD said unto Elijah, Go down with him, and be not afraid of him. Then he got up and went down with him to the king.

This is GT and the old pact. We read here that the judgment hit them hard, but in the NT and the new covenant, two of Jesus' disciples say something about this incident. They pray and Jesus will do the same. We read about this in the New Testament.

Luke 9. 51 And it came to pass, when it came to pass, that he should be taken up, he turned his face toward Jerusalem to go up, 52 and sent messengers before him. So they departed, and came into a Samaritan city to prepare him; 53 And they received him not, because his face was toward Jerusalem. 54 When his disciples Jacob and John saw it, they said, Lord! Do you want us to offer fire going down from heaven and devour them, just as Elijah did? 55 But he turned and spoke to them sternly, saying, "You do not know what spirit you are." 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy human life, but to save. And they went to another city.

Notice that Jesus would not hear that comparison, that was not why he had come. Jesus had come to save and make us whole, into spirit, soul and body.

In other words, God does not want us to wish the death, doom, or anything of any sinner! But still, all people will lead or later answer for their bread, sin, injustice and everything else they have done. Let's have this clear. But it is not us as believers anymore as in GT and the old covenant in the same way to pronounce judgment. But salvation, life, hope and restoration!

Final Comment:

But should still come up with another article, where I would also point out that even in the NT and the new covenant, God does the same as in the GT and the old covenant. He keeps judgment, reveals, and people are ashamed of God and His servants! After all, God is the same in the NT as in GT, God or Jesus has not changed.

Heb. 13. 8 Yesterday and today Jesus Christ is the same, yes forever.

Saddle. 90. 2 Before the mountains were created, and you created the earth and the earth, yes, from eternity to eternity you are, God.

mandag 9. september 2019

No. 1457: Why it was a fictitious review that Jan Aage Torp went with the Oslo police.

No. 1457:
Why it was a fictitious review that Jan Aage Torp went with the Oslo police.


Unfortunately, the police are largely not on alert in such cases when going to the police with false charges, and that they again prosecute anyone who has made false charges that Pastor Jan Aage Torp came against me and the Heavenly blog.



Explain this I shall try. I had been proclaiming remarriage for several years. Then focus on publishers, who were married. In fact, this had almost spread like a pageant on the Heavenly blog, and our English-language blog Heavenly blog.


This, Pastor Jan Aage Torp fell heavily on his chest when he was mentioned here. Even after, he invited me out for a talk with promise from Torps that I could write what I wanted on my own blog without him doing anything about it.

I did, and he went almost behind my back and notified me with a fictitious review. False accusations as it is called in law.

It was solely my proclamation against remarriage that caused Torp indignation. The "problem" for Torp was that I had such high scores on my articles at Google.

Torp is "smart", he knew he couldn't trap me with my proclamation of remarriage. Torp is, as I said, no dumb, he is cynical, calculating, manipulative, calculated and cunning!

He then goes and reports me for harassing him, something I've never done. I've never visited him or had anything to do with him, except when he asked me out to the cafe.

What happened next is the story. The police bet, there was a horrible lawsuit where I was charged with calling Torp leprosy, manipulative and a whore.
This was "reversed" to the fact that since I repeated this "too much" I was sentenced. Judicial murder of the time, it was only to get caught and convicted me!

Final Comment:

In other words, since one cannot judge anyone in Norway for preaching against remarriage. Then Torp carefully looked for something I had written about him, and the police and the courts were deceived. Poor me, hey! Of course, this is nothing more than seducing and manipulating.

Just hope and pray that the Oslo police and the courts will uncover Pastor Jan Aage Torp using false accusations to achieve his goal here in the case against me and the Heavenly Blog!

Criminal and unethical it is obvious!
That the police would not prosecute this is sad. Therefore, I also appealed the case further to the State Attorney, hoping that he will reverse the plea for further investigation, and hopefully charges against Pastor Torp and a conviction for false charges!
He distorted the entire review to apply something completely different to what the case was about. The case was about only one thing, that Torp hated me for preaching against his new relationship which the Bible describes as sin.

No. 1456: Talked to someone who has been a case manager himself, who thinks this is a very ugly case as the planning and construction agency in Oslo has systematically violated the Public Laws Act by failing to answer our questions, treated us unfairly compared to others!

No. 1456:
Talked to someone who has been a case manager himself, who thinks this is a very ugly case as the planning and construction agency in Oslo has systematically violated the Public Laws Act by failing to answer our questions, treated us unfairly compared to others!




Like Danish, one has his thoughts, even if one lives in Norway as a foreigner and a foreigner. As PBE and the public Norway hold, are they really Molboers? I have turned that down, as they do not want to answer our questions time and time again, if they do not fit. That they are really more monkeys than they are molesters. Therefore, include this mole story so readers can understand PBE better, and how and why they behave as they do.

The monkey

A gentleman at Mols had a monkey, for whom they had for fun sewn nice clothes, so that on the move it looked like a little boy.
A man in the neighborhood one day sent a farmer to the manor with an important letter, telling him that he had to have an answer back.
When the farmer came to the farm, the army had just gone out into the garden, but the monkey stood by an open window. When the farmer saw this well-dressed person, he went over to him and asked if the gentleman was at home; he had a letter to him, to which he should reply.
The monkey nodded and reached for the letter the farmer gave him. The monkey took it, looked at the seal, turned it over, looked at its contents, and finally tore the letter into bits, which he threw out of the window. The farmer, who was watching this, then asked if he should have any answer back. The monkey looked at him, smiled faintly, and shook his head. Then the farmer went his way.
When he got home, his master asked if he had a letter back.
"No," he said, "there was no one else home but junior, and I gave him the letter. He opened it and read, but it was easy to see that he was furious at the letter and would not answer it."
Image of a monkey, as an illustration image.


 


Coincidentally met someone who himself has been on the other side of the "table" than us, had a good time with him when we also ate in together. There I got to go through our case pretty well. this as I write in the headline here.

Talked to someone who has been a case manager himself, who thinks this is a very ugly case as the planning and construction agency in Oslo has systematically violated the Public Laws Act by failing to answer our questions, treated us unfairly compared to others!

The Public Law says discrimination is not allowed.

We have been discredited time after time, while others have been exempted even near our living area up to 57 times more than us. In other words, the discrimination in our case is systematic and has been going on for several years.

§ 6 Prohibition of discrimination

When dealing with cases under the law here or in other cases where access to information is granted, it is not appropriate for any kind of discrimination between comparable cases or to agree that someone should have exclusive rights to access information. The fact that an inquiry is presented by a public or a public enterprise does not give rise to any discrimination when the purpose of the inquiry is not related to the public action of the agency.

The prohibition in the first paragraph does not preclude the possibility of an exclusive rights agreement if it is necessary to provide a service of general interest. A new assessment of the grant will be required to make such agreements in the third quarter. Agreements on exclusive rights made in pursuance of this paragraph shall be public. It is not possible to agree on exclusive rights to access information that the public has a legal requirement to gain access to in accordance with the legal precedents in law or regulations.

Unless otherwise specified by the King in regulations, the provisions of this section shall apply to activities falling within the scope of the EEA Agreement, Annex XI (5k) (Directive 2003/98 / EC as amended by Directive 2013/37 / EU) concerning the use of public sector information.

Furthermore, we have repeatedly asked about things, even the same things and never got an answer. They fail to systematically and for several years subcommunicate and not communicate at all.

31. Rejection and granting

Refusal of access requirements must be in writing. The body must always refer to the driver's license that provides the basis for the rejection, and to the link, letter or number in the driver's license used. If section 13 is the basis for the rejection, the body shall also refer to the driver's license as an obligation to impose an obligation. If the refusal is based on regulations, the body must inform about this, and what point in the regulations the refusal is based on. The refusal must also inform the court to appeal and the time limit for appeal.

Anyone who has been rejected may, within three weeks of the rejection, receive our request for a more detailed justification for the rejection, where the main reason that has been the deciding factor for the rejection shall be almost. The body shall give written reasoning as soon as possible and no later than ten working days after the claim was received.

We have asked many things that we have never had tt answer to. In other words, they have repeatedly broken the law here and not get an answer to a question when one also repeats the questions, that's bad.

This is stated in the Public Law: If the refusal is based on regulations, the body must inform about this, and what point in the regulations the refusal is based on.

When we do not get answers about things we have asked. Here are some examples of questions.

1.) We have asked why they cannot when they are so careful to follow the regulations why they completely ignore the exemption law.

2.) The neighbor on the other side, has a wall that is 20 cm from the road. They are allowed to have it, but we are not ours.

3.) We have asked why they approved and want us to build a more "illegal" slant than the wall we have today. We have never answered this.

4.) Why do others get roughly in the same situation as us, and in a far "worse" situation than us exemption?

5.) When we e.g. put PBE answers guilty, then they never answer back. This is not good!

This I also pointed out in our complaint to the County Council, so this is nothing new. Here's what I wrote:

10.) When we ask for answers, they usually never answer. If they answer, then it is to blur. It is very difficult to have a good dialogue, since PBE really leads than monologue above us and largely against us!

fredag 6. september 2019

No. 1455: Complementary comment to the County Council regarding our complaint case!

No. 1455:
Complementary comment to the County Council regarding our complaint case!

Known I had to send a supplemental mail to the County Governor with something that did not come out well enough with forge mail as oral agreements are as binding as written in accordance with Norwegian law.


Photo: Jan Kåre Christensen share the photo for free.


Here is the email we sent:

Case number 201510929 Oslo 31 / 8-2019
To the County Governor of Oslo and Viken.

Wishes came up with a short supplement to fill the forge mail of 24.08.2019

We live in a trust-based society, which includes our Prime Minister Erna Solberg said:
"Trust - it's typically Norwegian, that.
A raw society, where we see each other and stand up for each other.
This is the kind of Norway I want. "
 
From this stands the planning and building, as well as the County Governor, the Civil Ombudsman and the Norwegian courts in some cases as far from this as possible. Not least in our case. Where one completely ignores this fact that like us, we are used to relying on other people, as much orally as in writing. Something like also stands in King Kristian the fifth law where oral agreements are as binding as written:
King Kristian the Law of the Fifth.
https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1687-04-15/KAPITTEL_3-1#a1

By regulation 14 Apr 1688 the law was put into effect from Mikkelsdag (29 Sep 1688). Only the provisions that are believed to still apply are included here. For the repeal of various provisions and for certain provisions which are believed to have lapsed, please refer to older editions of the Norwegian Laws.

Fifth Book. About Access, Goods and Gield.
In Cap. About Contracter and Commitment.
1 Art.Everyone is obliged to comply with whose hand with mouth, hand and seal promised and entered into gardens.
2 Art. All Contracts that are voluntarily provided by those who are legal, and come to their Ages, be it Purchase, Sal, Gift, Gut, Mortgage, Loan, Rent, Commitment, Promoter and other know what Name the mentioned child who is not against The law, or veneration, should be kept in all their words and points, as they are.
(quote at the end.)

There is talk of minimal overrun conditions, where one has also been guided by PBE, however orally.
How everything should be built etc., as well as a small storage room is built in good faith.

Erna Solberg who, after all, is sore The Prime Minister wants a society that she describes as follows:

"Trust - it's typically Norwegian, that.
A raw society, where we see each other and stand up for each other.
This is the kind of Norway I want. "
 
Yes, you should really think about this, because unfortunately, the way the public administration is dealing with us is the exact opposite.

Agree that rules, laws and paragraphs must be followed, but also that rule of exemption should be followed. Not only all other paragraphs, after all, we are human beings and in some cases it happens that one does not fully manage, ability or overlook to follow the applicable rules, paragraphs and other.
Then one should and should look with benevolence, and grant exemption.
Not least in our case where there is talk of such minimal violations that do not affect anyone in a negative way. On the contrary, it benefits everyone!

Best Regards
Jan Kåre and Berit Christensen
Crockstone 2 c
0672 Oslo

torsdag 5. september 2019

No. 1454: Reply in from the Homeowners' Association, which clearly states that the City of Oslo is responsible even for demolishing and erecting a new wall as they have given us guidance to build on the old wall without having to search as I understand them!

No. 1454:
Reply in from the Homeowners' Association, which clearly states that the City of Oslo is responsible even for demolishing and erecting a new wall as they have given us guidance to build on the old wall without having to search as I understand them!


Here is the old wall, bad picture but it clearly shows that there was an old wall on which we built our "new" wall. Without applying, but in consultation with PBE.



Here I ask:

Thanks for the call, it was very clear to me.

I'm just a simple bus driver, so I need help with the law.

Try to write down everything you said to me with reference to paragraphs.

Have a nice day still!

Regards
Jan Kåre

This answer I got:

I'm referring to our phone call today. As I emphasized earlier and repeated over the phone, the case complex is of such scope and complexity that I have no opportunity within the free time to familiarize myself with this in a way that I can advise you on what to do.

When you stated that you wanted to claim the costs of demolishing the wall covered by the City of Oslo, I stated that Section 2-1 of the Compensation Damage Act regulates the employer's liability for employees' damaging actions in the performance of the service. Whether there is access to, and any grounds for claiming compensation from the municipality in this matter, I cannot decide.

If you are considering legal action against the municipality, the case should be thoroughly reviewed by a lawyer. As you are aware, you may have legal aid coverage included in your insurance policies, but this must be clarified with the insurance company.

The Compensation Act can be found at lovdata.no. Section 2-1 states:

§ 2-1. (Employer's responsibility for employee.)

1. Employer (67) is responsible (68) for injury (69) inflicted intentionally (70) or negligently (71) during employee (72) performance of work (73) or job (74) for employer, with (75) considerations be taken into consideration if the claims that the injured party can reasonably make to the business or service are breached. (76) Liability does not include damage that results from the employee going beyond what is reasonable to expect by the nature of the business or area of ​​business and the nature of the work or the job. (77)

2. By employer (78) is meant here the public (79) and any other (80) who has in his or her employment business (81). (82)

3. Employee (83) means anyone who does work or performs employment (84) in the employer's service, except for employment as an employee representative in another enterprise. (85) Equal to employee (86), agents in public service (87) are considered, those who serve in the Armed Forces and others under mandatory (88) public service, as well as inmates, patients, etc. who participates in work in the prison care facilities, in health care institutions, etc. (89)

4. If the patient injury compensation applies, the Patient Damage Act applies. (90)

As an HL member, you get one hour of free legal advice from a lawyer per. years, and this time is now used up. If you need further legal assistance in this matter, we have cooperation lawyers who can assist you. You can find an overview of these here:

https://www.huseierne.no/om-oss/radgivning/samarbeidsadvokater/

As a HL member, you get half an hour of free consultation, as well as a 20% discount on the attorney's usual fee.

Sincerely

Per Christian Nordal

Lawyer MNA
member Advisory

Final Comment:

According to what the Homeowners' Association says, we can cover everything regarding demolition and put up a new wall. Then if we win a new lawsuit against the City of Oslo.

Chapter 2. Responsibility of public and other employers, etc.
§ 2-1 (Employer's responsibility for employee.)

1. The employer is liable for damage that is intentionally or negligently caused during the employee's performance of work or duties for the employer, taking into account whether the claims that the injured party can reasonably impose on the business or service have been breached. The liability does not include damage that results from the employee going beyond what is reasonable to count on the nature of the business or area of ​​business and the nature of the work or the job.

2. By employer here is meant the public and anyone else who, in or out of business, has someone in their service.

3. Employee means any person who does work or performs duties in the employer's service, except for duties as a representative of another company. Equally with employees are agents in public activities, those who serve in the Armed Forces and others under mandatory public service, as well as inmates, patients, etc. who participates in work in the prison care facilities, in health care institutions, etc.

4. If the patient injury compensation applies, the Patient Damage Act applies.
0 Amended by Laws 13 June 1997 No. 44 (IKR 1 Jan 1999 pursuant to Res. 17 July 1998 No. 615), 15 June 2001 No. 53 (IKR 1 Jan 2003 for the Public Health Service pursuant to Res. 20 Dec 2002 No. 1623), June 20, 2003 No. 45 (Ikr. July 1, 2003, according to Res. June 20, 2003, No. 712), Aug. 12, 2016, No. 77 (Ikr. July 1, 2017, according to Res. June 16, 2017, no. 778).
§ 2-2 (Relief of the employer's responsibility
r.)

1. The employer's responsibility may be eased pursuant to § 5-2.

2. The liability may also be alleviated if the damage is due to a decision by the public authority and the injured party has for no reasonable reason failed to attempt to amend the decision.
0 Amended by Laws Feb 13, 1976 No. 1, June 21, 1985 No. 81.
§ 2-3 (easing the employee's responsibility.)

1. Anyone who has become liable for an employee under section 2-1 may claim him as far as is reasonable in view of the behavior, financial ability, the employee's position and other conditions.

2. The employee's liability to the injured party may be alleviated when circumstances as mentioned in paragraph 1 make it reasonable, and it is justified even with regard to the injured party. Employees who themselves are liable for damages may claim back what the employer should bear after paragraph 1.

3. The rule in paragraph 1 shall apply mutatis mutandis if the employer makes a claim against an employee who in his service has caused him injury.

No. 1453: It is a messy and confused bureaucracy and tricky case management when they say that we should apply, and at the same time we have now received a fee of 20,000, - kr. for having built a wall in collaboration with the planning and building agency here in Oslo city!

No. 1453:
It is a messy and confused bureaucracy and tricky case management when they say that we should apply, and at the same time we have now received a fee of 20,000, - kr. for having built a wall in collaboration with the planning and building agency here in Oslo city!

The whole thing now appears to be more foolish and confusing than ever when they have given us a living of $ 20,000 to have followed their guidance.

Here is a comment I include:
PBE appeared both dishonest, arrogant and uncooperative in this matter. It would be unreasonable in such strictly regulated areas if one could not compromise to resolve such locked building cases. The buildings that you have erected in good faith do not hurt a fly. Still, they are only fined while asking you for permission and tearing at the same time. Messy bureaucracy and tricky case workers all like one.
(quote at the end.)

Here is the fine of NOK 20,000, which we must pay by September 27.

This is very sad as this is just to try to gag us, not make sense to anyone in the world. It is the total confusion that these people in the planning and building department here in Oslo are facing and practicing for their own inhabitants!



mandag 2. september 2019

No. 1452: There are levels of prayer, there are levels of praise and levels of sin and evil! Part 1.

No. 1452:
There are levels of prayer, there are levels of praise and levels of sin and evil! Part 1.


From the Book of Judah 12 These are the shameful marks of your love-meals; waterless clouds driven by the wind; trees, bare as if in the fall, barren, twice dead, uprooted; 13 wild sea-strings that shame their own shame; astray stars, for whom the night of darkness is ready for ever.
The fact is that "serving" the Lord, but not living in repentance, is many times worse for God than even being a God-defender who does justice to himself. But the best thing is to live by the word of God and believe in me and God as Jesus said it.
Picture of Lucifer or the Light Angel as he once was. Today he transforms himself into one, but is the angel of darkness.



Although there are two outputs of life, either eternal life in with God forever. Or to get lost where one is wiped out in the Lake of Fire with all the evil creatures like Satan, the Antichrist, the false prophet, the demon and the fallen angels.

There are schemes in the spiritual world, and there are schemes in the physical world. This is a very comprehensive study, where it is easy to get lost!
In the deepest sense, everything will become more and more governed by the spiritual world to the full.
Today, it is partly governed by the spiritual world as God allows us to hold on to a large extent on our own. But we will be held accountable for how we spent our lives, the scripture says.

Heb. 9. 27 And as it is the lot of men once to die, and then judgment,

We can be well known in the spiritual world, not least if we live completely before God. If we live on edge with the world or in this world, we are less known in the spiritual world. The apostle Paul was, for example. well known in the spiritual world.

Acts 19. 11 And extraordinary works of God did by the hands of Paul, 12 so that they even took sweat-cloths or aprons which he had worn, and bore to the sick, and the sickness departed from them, and the evil spirits departed from them. 13 But some of the Jewish spirit-men who were about to take the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, said, "I exhort you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches. 14 There were seven sons of Skevas, a Jewish high priest, seven in the number, who did this. 15 But the evil spirit answered them, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but you, who are you? 16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was, leaped upon them, and won over them both, and overcame them, that they should flee naked and wounded out of the house.

Notice that Skeva's sons were well known in this world, but not in the spiritual world. While the Apostle Paul was well known in this world, but even better known in the spiritual world.

We see the same with Jesus, who had power and authority over the entire spiritual world, even the angels.

Matt. 26. 52 Then Jesus said to him, Put your sword in the sheath. for all who take the sword shall fall by the sword. 53 Or do you not think that I can pray at this time to my Father, and he would send me more than twelve legions of angels?

Notice that Jesus was not fearful when they seized him, just as the others were. Not least the apostle Peter, who grabbed the sword and cut off one's ear. What does Jesus say? That a legion was a force of 5 to 6,000 men, who had others left behind. In other words, Jesus could easily have received 60 - 70,000 angels who would have easily delivered him from the cross and the Roman soldiers. This will happen when Jesus saves Israel at the Armageddon battle, then there will be angels and us saints (Christians) with Him.

Let's take the negative side, that is, there are also levels in "serving" the evil. But the Bible is actually very clear about this, so clear that it is almost at the limit of what one wants and wants to convey. It's that all people are not "spirit-neutral". But belongs to either God or Satan, lying or dark. Either we live in the kingdom of the beloved Son of God, or we are under the wrath of God. Includes two verses that say this.

Joh.e. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; but whosoever will not believe in the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God shall be upon him.

Kol. 1:13 He who delivered us from the power of darkness, and put us into the kingdom of his beloved Son,

Who is the one who "serves" Satan first and foremost? We should not go into this in depth, but it is important to be aware. It is not always those who invoke the Christian name that bear it. Who did Jesus have the most trouble with? The poor, widows and ordinary people? No, on the contrary, they were religious people of the time.
Who has e.g. I've had the most trouble in recent years?
There are people who should be in the good servants, such as preachers and government officials. In other words, it tells that many times, name Christians and government figures are the worst to stand up to God and be in the violence of the Evil One.

We also read from Ap.gj. 19 about some sons of Skevas, a Jewish high priest, seven in the number who did this. They were "worse" than the Gentiles in wanting to imitate Paul, but they were obviously not born again.

Just imagine what the false Pastor and fool Apostle Jan Aage Torp did to trick the police and the courts to get a verdict on me when Torp hated my preaching of God's word. Not least my proclamation of remarriage, then as a Christian brother if he had been. Then he had never notified me, since God's word speaks plainly about notifying brothers and sisters is not something we as believers should do. Then it is better to suffer a loss rather the scripture says!
It is not difficult to tell Torp here that he is a servant of Satan, since the word of God clearly states that one should not remarry after a divorce. And reporting brothers and sisters in the Lord is also unbiblical. The man is a "drama queen" of rank.

Final Comment:

Now let's focus in the next article on what it means to serve the Lord. And that we can look at depths and nuances and walk with the Lord. In many ways, one can say, to make the most of their Christian life.
Here we have also focused on the fact that there is a divide on us humans. There is a difference between whether we have received salvation or not. And it is also depth and possible to be a "devoted" servant of evil as well as of good!

fredag 30. august 2019

No. 1450: According to a lawyer who has expertise in real estate, believes that we have good opportunities to win against the City of Oslo by suing them for torture and burning in connection that they have given us verbal commitment to build the wall!

No. 1450:
According to a lawyer who has expertise in real estate, believes that we have good opportunities to win against the City of Oslo by suing them for torture and burning in connection that they have given us verbal commitment to build the wall!


Picture of Erna Solberg who said the following: "Trust - it's typically Norwegian, that.
A raw society, where we see each other and stand up for each other.
This is the kind of Norway I want. "



Had a longer conversation with a lawyer that I will not name as he has not received any assignment from us. Which meant that we have good opportunities to win against the City of Oslo by suing them for torture and sting in connection that they have given us verbal commitment to build the wall!

That means they have to pay us to have the wall set up and apply to keep it. As well as tearing it down and the trial they have to pay if we win.

The conditions for damages for tort and stealing, that is, redress are provided in Section 3-5, Paragraph 1 of the Injury Compensation Act.

§ 3-5 (Compensation (redress) for non-financial damage).

Well I should not go too far with this since I am not a lawyer.
But since we have been given oral permission to build on an old wall, no application is required. Since the consequences are so great that we have to tear everything down to PBE's demand. Then I / we have the right to receive so-called "cheapness compensation" because we have been brought to light by the planning and building authorities here in Oslo.
(quote at the end.)

Now I hope, pray and proclaim victory, that everything will be fine. But it was interesting to hear this lawyer who believed that suing the County Assembly is very difficult to win.

Confidence.

We live in a society based on trust. Say that I / we should have known better when we were given verbal commitment to build the wall on top of the old wall. It also bears witness

According to this lawyer, I had several good points. that we in Norway live in a society based on trust.
The fact that PBE chooses to completely disregard this makes my reasoning stronger.

Final Comment:

Erna Solberg said the following: "Trust - it's typically Norwegian, that.
A raw society, where we see each other and stand up for each other. This is the kind of Norway I want. "

In other words - just the opposite of the City of Oslo and the Planning and Building Agency here in Oslo.
Which does not live up to this, in fact the opposite!
Here I have trusted a municipal employee - blindly - it has really been punished!

torsdag 29. august 2019

No. 1449: Interview with Torben Søndergaard who experiences much of the same thing as us, where one has to fight the battles alone as the vast majority of believers do not understand what the hidden persecution of Christianity is in Europe today!

No. 1449:
Interview with Torben Søndergaard who experiences much of the same thing as us, where one has to fight the battles alone as the vast majority of believers do not understand what the hidden persecution of Christianity is in Europe today!


There are several things here that are recognizable to me, not least what he mentions that believing people one cannot count on in the storm. Only the Lord and a few, a small remnant, have not "bowed" their knees to the God of this world Satan.
There are other things in this article as well, it's that Satan doesn't like us to mention demons and other things. Satan will not be revealed and made known.
To me, Torben Søndergaard appears as a man who has really got to know the body and the soul that it costs to follow the Lord.
Picture of Christianity hater and Christian persecutor Jan Aage Torp who is obviously a falcon brother as the apostle Paul mentions.
2 Cor. 11. 26 Often I have been on journeys, in the dangers of rivers, in the dangers of robbers, in the dangers of my people, in the dangers of the Gentiles, in the dangers of the city, the dangers of the sea, the dangers of the false brothers,
Notice the dangers of false brothers, who even go to the police with false reviews, want for "brothers" imprisonment and want money. Talk about being a scoundrel, lying in court and lurking 1.4 Millions out of a person who is sick.



Interview with Torben Søndergaard

- Until last year I was proud of having a Danish passport - of being from a country with freedom. But I have learned that that freedom applies only if you do not obey God's Word completely, says Torben Søndergaard.
Fears prison and child welfare conflict
He is the founder and front figure for the revival movement The Last Reformation - "the last Reformation", which has followers across much of the world, including Norway. He has gathered hundreds of participants at weekend conferences in Norway, most recently in Kristiansand a year ago.
TLR started in 2011 based on the belief that it is meant to experience today what is read in the Acts of the Apostles, by returning to the same type of discipleship that the first Christians lived. The movement's relationally based and loosely composed networks spread to all parts of the world in no time. In Denmark, they recently had the main base of a former sports school with up to 200 beds for Bible school students and the possibility of major meetings with a few thousand present.
But in January of this year everything was turned on its head. The base in Denmark has been closed down and Søndergaard has taken the family to the United States. If he returns home, he fears both prison sentences and conflict with the child welfare service.

- I look guilty

Norway today talks to him via the internet while traveling in Charlottesville, Virginia. There he is to be interviewed on radio and television. American Christian media is interested in both his movement and his alarm of Christian persecution in Europe. He has so far refused to talk to Scandinavian journalists after moving, but he has chosen to make an exception.
- Before January this year, I never would have thought that it could happen that I would take my wife and our children to another country and apply for asylum, he says.
The story begins January 2nd. Then, Danish TV2 aired the first episode of a three-part documentary series called "God's Best Children." He had allowed a TV2 camera team to follow his service for a year and a half, after submitting that they wanted to create a program about how people get their lives changed in the face of his movement. "You have something else to offer than the national church, and we want to tell those stories," he recalls telling them.
In reality, they created a series about overtramping in far-reaching religious movements. They mentioned not only Søndergaard, but a bunch of Christian leaders and organizations where it has previously been uncovered, including financial fraud and child abuse. In the middle of this, Søndergaard is cut.
- When I saw the first episode, I thought, "I look guilty. I would have thought this was a guilty man if it was about someone else. "That's because of the way the series is cut," says the preacher, who is also a filmmaker himself.
- I really try to live a holy life and maintain a high standard in moral issues after seeing what has gone wrong in so many other services. It is difficult to present such a picture of himself, he says.
This week it became known that the TV channel has been fielded in the Press Board, the Danish variant of the Press's Professional Committee, for the way they produced Søndergaard. But in the meantime, the snowball rolled.

exorcism

In the programs he is accused of asking the mentally ill to throw his medicine.
- I don't talk to people about medicine. But an "undercover" journalist who pretended to seek intercession asked me over and over again about drug use, and I explained that God is greater than medicine. That doesn't mean sick people should throw away their medicine, it would be stupid. But to continue on medicine after being healed is just as stupid. What I recommended to her was to go and talk to the doctor, tell how she whas been changed and ask him to take her off the medication. That part was toned down in the program.
The accusation that has caused the most resurrection is that children must have been traumatized by witnessing demon expulsions in TLR. As documentation, TV2 shows in a much-played trailer a clip of a little boy standing with his pants down and crying.
- They have cut this with intercession from other collections we have had and made it look like he is crying because of it. This boy was with his parents at a meeting where we had baptism. The boy is autistic. He saw the baptismal pool and took off his pants because he wanted to swim. When his parents denied him, he screamed in protest, says Søndergaard.
- I have been evangelizing on the streets for 20 years and casting out demons for ten years, and I have never received feedback from anyone who claims to have been traumatized by witnessing this.

- Everything got dark

He does not hide the fact that it was tough to see how friends and brothers turned his back, both in the TV series and in the debate afterwards.
- January 9 is the day I will never forget. Then I watched the trailer for the last episode of the series, and realized that people who had worked with us had come out and lied about us. Then everything got dark. I thought no one would ever trust me again, and no one would believe in what I stood for. "Now I'm done in Denmark," I thought.
During the following three weeks, he was on national television ten times and became a featured in the news media. The network of Danish Free Churches, the Free Church, took a distance and called his methods extreme. Psychologists and interest groups warned against him, and he was referred to on television as "dangerous". The business partner who had invested in the sports school as premises for TLR withdrew from the movement because he thought Søndergaard controlled too much.

The law was changed

After the media run, Søndergaard felt it necessary to leave the country for a period. On January 24, he ordered tickets to the United States, and on January 26, the family left. Soon they got the idea that it would not be so easy to return.
- I heard about two legislative changes that were underway, he says.
One was a new law on mental violence, which equates the penalties for physical and mental violence. It was adopted by the Parliament in March. In the enclosed political remarks to the legal text, it is stated that one of the actions which is assumed to be defined as psychological violence is to allow children or persons with disabilities to witness the eviction of demons. Søndergaard has no doubt that the law is aimed at him.
The second is a change in the child welfare system, in the direction of Norwegian practice, where the child welfare service can remove children from parents after emergency decisions without first going about the courts.
- Even before this, we felt that the child welfare service looked suspiciously at us. It began when we gave our daughters homeschooling instead of sending them to public school. Last fall, they wanted to look after our daughters because I had been on a boy's trip with men - and some teenagers - from our Bible school, where we had slaughtered and eaten a hen, which they thought was brutal.
Therefore, he became an asylum seeker
They decided to make life in the United States lasting, and eventually they saw no alternative but to seek asylum.
- But there are other ways to stay in the US than through the Asylum Institute ...

- We wanted the first two and a half months to get a work permit. Then we hoped things would calm down in Denmark. But when I saw what happened to the new laws, I realized that there was no going back.
Søndergaard warns against believing that he is the only one who risks persecution as a result of the Law of Mental Violence.
- In a completely secular society, where you do not believe in demons, God or healing, you have now made a law against demon expulsion after watching a television program. What is the next step? Can children be traumatized by being prayed for? Or to hear the gospel preached? This is the first step towards removing the freedom of belief. People may think that this only affects "extreme Christians" who do wrong things, but then you do not realize that this is something that affects every born-again believer who wants to do Jesus' deeds. I have not done the things other Christian leaders in the program have done, but I am still held guilty. Then everyone can be considered guilty. Our faith in the Danish system has collapsed. That's why we left the country.

Never cry so much

- On the one hand, this has been the most difficult half year we have ever had as a family. I've never cried so much and never experienced so many shocks. But on the other hand, I really see God's hand in all this. Jesus has promised us persecution, says Søndergaard.
- In many areas, God has called us to be pioneers, to lead the way. I believe that what we have experienced is meant to prepare the congregation for what is to come. I may be the first from Scandinavia to seek asylum in another country because of persecution of faith, but I certainly will not be the last.
Currently, the time in the United States is most likely to travel around and building relationships and getting to know their new country.
- I have not yet obtained a work permit, so we are not holding major conferences at this time, he says.
When it comes to order, they hope to be able to build a new headquarters.
"There's a center in North Carolina that we think God will give us, but we haven't got it yet," he reveals.
Ask Christians to be bold
- Why was it necessary to close down the entire organization in Denmark?
- Because I left. If I came back again, we could have run the school again. I had a great deal of teaching.

- Are you in debt?

- TLR does not have much money. Our books and seminars are free, because we try to do things differently than usual. We rented the building and had the expense of having a school there, and when we finished abruptly, the building was left standing without students for months. We incurred close to a hundred thousand dollars in debt, but God has provided for us so we have been able to pay it all down. Now we owe nobody anything, but we have nothing either.
He talks about how a stranger contacted them when they arrived in the United States and had been accused by God of assaulting him with an apartment. This is how he feels that God has been involved.
- I hope that what has happened to me will not create fear in Scandinavia and Europe, but that people will instead gain boldness. When Paul was in prison, he asked the Christians to preach the gospel with even greater boldness, says Torben Søndergaard.
(quote at the end.)

mandag 26. august 2019

No. 1448: It is obviously a service error and punishable by what PBE did when they said we could build on an old wall, but now this is against us and wants us to demolish!


No. 1448:
It is obviously a service error and punishable by what PBE did when they said we could build on an old wall, but now this is against us and wants us to demolish!


It is pretty obvious that PBEs are lawless and go wrong when they have given us oral permission, and withdraw it.
They have violated Norwegian law on several points, including Norwegian law states that an oral agreement is as binding as a written one.
The prophet Isaiah speaks that those who are to govern the law do not use it properly. They abuse the law, especially against those who need and need protection.
The same is true in our case, that we feel that the authorities are abusing their power, and their entire power loss against us.

Isaiah 10. Woe unto them that give unrighteous laws, and issue pernicious letters, 2 to bring the petty away from the court, and to rob the poor of my people of their right, to make widows their spoil, and to plunder the fatherless. 3 But what will ye do in the day of the visitation, when the destruction cometh from afar? To whom will you flee for help, and where will you do your taxes? 4 He who does not sink to the knees among the prisoners shall fall among the slain. But with all this his anger does not return, and yet his hand is stretched out.
The Prophet Isaiah's words are valid today, "to need petty people" is something that the government will be punished sooner or later.



§ 171. Service failure
With a fine or imprisonment for up to 2 years, the person who exercises or assists in the exercise of public authority is punished and grossly violates his duty of service.

Here there is an obvious service error, and we are therefore considering suing Kaja Aubert Lange in court.
It is not with a light heart, as she is the case manager we have come up with the best. But at the same time, it was through her advice and guidance that we built the wall as a plan and building agency here in Oslo.

This is what my lawyer Knut Howlid writes to the Borgarting Court of Appeal.

APPEAL TO BORGARTING LAGMANNSRETT
 
Case No. 18-104017 TVI-OTIR / 06


Appellant: Jan Kåre Christensen, Krokstien 2 c, 0672 Oslo

Prosecutor: Lawyer Knut M Howlid, Gyldenløvesgate 24, 0260 Oslo
 Appellate party: The State at the Ministry of Municipal and Modernization PO Box 8112 Dep, 0032 Oslo
 Attorney: Government Attorney v. Attorney Elisabeth Sawkins Eikeland PO Box 8012 Dep, 0030 Oslo

21.12.2018 Oslo District Court handed down judgment in case no 18-104017 with such conclusion:

1. The State of the Ministry of Local Government and Modernization is acquitted.

2. Jan Kåre Christensen is sentenced to pay NOK 40 600 - forty thousand six hundred - in compensation for legal costs to the State by the Ministry of Local Government and Modernization. The payment deadline is two to two weeks from the verdict.

Jan Kåre Christensen thinks the verdict is wrong and appeals it to the Court of Appeal in its entirety with regard to incorrect assessment of evidence and use of law which Christensen believes is fraught with decisive deficiencies at the same time as he believes there are procedural errors.

The appeal does not include claim # 2 before the district court that the appellant may retain the wall, staircase and storage room as it is today, but it must be stated for good measure that this is what the case is about.

The case has not been adequately disclosed by the fact that documents and witnesses have not been brought, at the same time that none of the authorities that have handled the case have conducted an investigation so that they could hear Christensen's explanation and see his remarks on the spot regarding the matters concerning the terrain and location regarding the needs of stairs, masonry and storerooms.
It is required that the Court of Appeal hold an inspection, either in the f b m main hearing event. prior.
From this page it has previously been stated that it has been wrong of the district court not to hold a hearing as part of the main hearing. That an agreement was reached in the planning meeting not to conduct an investigation was due to the fact that Christensen was without experience of the case before a court when he was not represented by a proxy.
After the initial introductory conversation with me, Christensen included a claim in his final post that inspection was required. The same was included in my first petition of November 30, 2018. In a case that deals with several aspects of a real estate, one cannot receive sufficiently sound treatment, nor can the case be adequately disclosed, without investigation.
In particular, this will apply in the case before the District Court, when neither the City of Oslo nor the County Governor was willing to call for an investigation.

Photos may not be sufficient to safeguard the considerations of a local inspection.

The support wall - advance guidance

Christensen sought advance guidance in the municipality of Oslo on two occasions before the support wall was erected. Christensen claims that in both inquiries he described the wall and that he was accepted for the construction of the wall without having to seek prior permission.
In the two phone conversations in 2013 that Christensen had with case manager Kaja Lange Aubert
rt, who knew the area years back through the development period of Krokstien 2, he asked if it was okay to erect a new and higher wall on the former old wall along the Stormyrveien road to get a larger and much better outdoor area southwest of their accommodation on Krokstien 2 c.
On both occasions, Christensen believes that he was given a clear answer by the municipal caseworker that the wall was not compulsory as he described it. He himself perceived it as a binding acceptance and agreement. It seems clearly unreasonable if it is Christensen who, in a case like this, should be at risk of any misunderstanding.
It is stated that there are service errors with regard to guidance / counseling. If there had been any basis for any kind of doubt with the caseworker regarding the request, she should have asked to have a sketch and / or written presentation of the building measure to make sure that her guidance / advice was correct.

Thus, the municipality's duty to provide sound guidance and / or counseling has failed and in any case has not been properly clarified vs. a contractor who addresses the municipality's planning and building authorities with a very specific question of prior permission in a specific building case.

The case officer was waived by the undersigned as a witness for the district court. However, it later emerged during the main hearing that the State Prosecutor had no knowledge that the case officer to whom Christensen approached had also been a case manager in connection with the planning and development of Krokstien 2 a b c and d.

The person in question was thus locally known in the area, familiar with the terrain heights and formations, as she had followed the development of the Krokstien from A to Z as far as Christensen has knowledge. Therefore, as a witness, the person will provide the case with the necessary information so that it will be far better and more properly informed.

In the guidance Christensen received, there was no mention of the considerations for small-scale housing, only that Christensen's wall would be like the other walls in the immediate area. Aubert Lange guided out from someone else's house on Stormyrveien.

Against this background, it is a mistake of the district court not to assume that the proprietor has been in good faith regarding the duty to apply. The only thing that has occurred through negligence is the case manager's handling of Christensen's inquiries. It is a mistake of the district court not to see this as a material breach of the duty to provide guidance after fvl. § 11.

This is what our responsible applicants write to PBE in Oslo.
From Completed Test Byggesak AS, Pb 9385 Greenland, 0135 Oslo

The municipality's duty of guidance:

Reference is made to Section 11. of the Public Administration Act If, from the supervisory authority, it has not been sufficiently and clearly communicated that the measures trigger the application obligation and exemption from the current plan basis, then this should also be given weight in an overall assessment of measures already implemented. The policyholder must be able to trust that he or she can follow the advice sought by the relevant authority. This naturally follows naturally from the Public Administration Act. On this occasion, it should be pointed out that the responsible applicant has only described the oral communication between the municipality and the initiative holder on the part of the initiative holder. We note that the municipality has failed to comment on this in its decision.

Other walls / stalls in the area and the principle of equal treatment:

It is correct as PBE writes in its decision that many of the walls established in the area were probably established before the current plan was adopted. However, it is not correct that all the walls were established before the detached house plan became applicable. Several walls have been erected towards the roadway in recent years.

When assessing the current wall in ft. other walls in the area are also specified that the wall in question is by no means the largest wall in the area, neither in height nor length. We note that PBE points out that many walls have been erected before the small house plan became applicable. The promoter then wonders if these are then legal, even though they have never been applied for and they obviously must have been in violation of both previously applicable plans and exemption provisions in the Planning and Building Act. To this end, we understand that the proprietor - who himself thinks they have followed the municipality's recommendation - considers it unreasonable to be the only ones being followed up.

The action holder finds it further unreasonable that PBE defends what the action holder perceives as a neighbor's illegally erected wall in his argument against the action holder's own wall. The respondent points out on this occasion that it is not correct that the neighbors' wall is not in a regulated way. Whether the neighboring wall is illegally constructed is unclear to us, but it is correct as the proprietor points out that the walls of the complaining neighbor's properties (both walls on the other side of the road and the nearest neighbor's wall) may appear to lie partly in areas regulated to the road.

Incidentally, the policyholder cannot understand the importance of neighboring walls (at least some of them) being associated with carport. The walls are not lower, or affect the area or the like
is less lane, for that reason.

By the way, not all the walls in the area were established before the small house plan became applicable. Several of the walls in the area appear to have been established after 2006. From case view, we cannot see that any cases have been registered in the Stormyrveien road relating to explicit walls in the last 100 years.

We assume that some walls are rated in sqm. other buildings, but notes that it may nevertheless appear that the project owner is right in that several of the walls have not been subject to a reality assessment.

Mht. natural transition to road, it is pointed out that the few plots in the area have natural transition to road. In most of the plots along Stormyrveien walls and or cuts have been established in one form or another. Several of these have the same size as the current wall.

Mht. The requirement for natural stone is then pointed out that there is great variation in the walls in the area, and that there is a considerable number of walls in plastered walls and concrete, ie with similar expression as the actual wall. In this connection, reference is made, for example, to the walls of Stormyrveien 9 and 12.

Mht. in conjunction with green areas, the policyholder perceives PBE's reasoning as slightly in excess of the application. Again, almost all the sites in the immediate area are referred to where this green space is broken up with some form of terrain - primarily the construction of walls. All complaining neighbors' properties are terminated against the road with what PBE refers to as an unnatural transition that violates the green contiguous areas against the road.

The initiative holder is wondering that residents in the immediate area should have received an exemption for a listed booth (case 201316839 - Stormyrveien 9C). Whether there are major differences in this case and the present case we are somewhat uncertain, but at least we note that this is also an illegal listed bid and that% BYA was reported up to 60%. We also record that the site is subject to another regulation, without being sure how it affects the assessment criteria. Furthermore, we assume that PBE has an overview that no corresponding exemptions have been granted in respect of PBE. % BYA for similar measures in the Småhusplan's scope.

We have not been able to answer several of the above statements exactly to several of the above quotations. Since it is PBE's arguments the proprietor refers to, we find it most natural to leave it to PBE to comment on this in the complaint case.


Mht. outdoor area:

In its decision regarding storage, PBE has emphasized the living areas. The defendant perceives this argument to some extent to be contradictory when the agency in fm. storage emphasizes the outdoor space a lot, while in fm. the improvement of the surface area attached to the wall does not attach this considerable weight. We understand the agency. that the storage facilities to some extent occupy land allocated for outdoor living, cf. given permits for housing. We also understand that the agency has assumed that sloping terrain (up to 1: 3) is considered usable (the living areas to the west if no wall is established). Mht. we will point out that due to changed regulations regarding calculation of the living area, the outdoor areas of the dwelling have in fact increased computationally, cf. given permission for housing, even after an established dwelling. Previously, PBE did not consider areas in sqm. roof terrace to be "usable", while acc. changing regulations then they do. Thus, requirements for outdoor space are met regardless of whether the accommodation is established or not. Mht. the outdoor areas to the west, we again want to point out that flat areas provide better opportunities for varied outdoor living than sloped areas. On this occasion, it is requested that the municipality look to the neighboring plots, and most plots down the Stormyrveien road (where trapping of terrain is relatively widespread) in its complaint case assessment. It seems obvious that it is not only the proprietor who has had a desire to flatten the hilly terrain with a desire for flat outdoor area.

Final Comment:

What does Norwegian law say I will end with.

King Kristian the Law of the Fifth.
https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1687-04-15/KAPITTEL_3-1#a1


By regulation 14 Apr 1688 the law was put into effect from Mikkelsdag (29 Sep 1688). Only the provisions that are believed to still apply are included here. For the repeal of various provisions and for certain provisions which are believed to have lapsed, please refer to older editions of the Norwegian Laws.

Fifth Book. About Access, Goods and Gield.
In Cap. About Contracter and Commitment.
1 Art.Everyone is obliged to comply with whose hand with mouth, hand and seal promised and entered into gardens.
2 Art. All Contracts that are voluntarily provided by those who are of legal age, and come to their Ages, be it Purchase, Sal, Gift, Garbage, Mortgage, Loan, Rent, Commitment, Promoter and other know what Name the mentioned child who is not against The law, or veneration, should be kept in all their words and points, as they are.

lørdag 24. august 2019

No. 1447: Additional information to the County Governor in Oslo and Viken regarding the Planning and Building Agency's attempts to manipulate and not accept that we have been orally instructed to build a wall that they are currently contesting!

No. 1447:
Additional information to the County Governor in Oslo and Viken regarding the Planning and Building Agency's attempts to manipulate and not accept that we have been orally instructed to build a wall that they are currently contesting!

Sent this email as with additional information to the County Governor in Oslo and Viken regarding the Planning and Building Agency attempts to manipulate and not take in that we have been orally instructed to build a wall that they today contest!
Sad when a government agency is on a line with a disclaimer where all things indicate only one thing that we are talking about. While they do not adhere to the facts of the case, we illustrate this in this email.

Case number 201510929 Oslo 24 / 8-2019
To the County Governor of Oslo and Viken.


The indices themselves indicate that I speak true, but that PBE does not il relate to it. As well as our experience and understanding of the matter, it should be trampled and neglected at all.

In the case between us, me and my wife Berit Nyland Christensen and the Planning and Building Agency here in Oslo, it is striking in all mailers and all correspondence between us. Then they will not respond to anything when we mention things that are in our favor, they merely dispense with what they themselves have decided and believe.

What happened in this case? When you look at what is built, you see clearly that none of what is built. It is not built by chance, it harmonizes with both the terrain and our house.
In other words, when I say and write that we built our wall on top of an old wall in consultation with our then case manager Kaja Aubert Lange in PBE, it is true with "map and compass." So with what it looks like here we live.

The indices themselves indicate that I speak true, but that PBE does not!

If you take a pen, it is so small that you have to ask why? That was when we built it, it was only allowed to set up a storage space of less than 15 square meters without applying for it. Today it is 50 sqm2. We set up a storage space of 10 sqm2, which became 11 sqm2. We had built two places where we have lived before, without searching. That this is going to be almost a disaster and that we are being treated so unreasonably hard even though our overruns are minimal, testify to someone who is only concerned with applying the rules against us. Here, of course, it should have given dispensation, the excess and the gain of what we have built, it says.

When it comes to the wall, we conferred with PBE. Then it turns out that our wall also fits perfectly, as, among other things, the neighbor's wall is over a ½ meter higher than ours. It indicates that the acceptance we got was to build on the old wall without applying for it. It sticks, and the indices indicate the same.
We have also built a higher wall before in one of the places we have storage, so to build a wall without searching. It has been the template for us, nothing else.

What really happened between me and Kaja Aubert Lange?
Here is our Lawyer Knut Howlids write to Borgarting Lagmannsrett on this case.

The support wall - advance guidance

Christensen sought advance guidance in the municipality of Oslo on two occasions before the support wall was erected. Christensen claims that in both inquiries he described the wall and that he was accepted for the construction of the wall without having to seek prior permission.
In the two phone conversations in 2013 that Christensen had with caseworker Kaja Lange Aubert, who knew the area years back through the development period to Krokstien 2, he asked if it was okay to erect a new and higher wall on the former old wall along Stormyrveien to get a larger and much better outdoor area southwest of their accommodation on Krokstien 2 c.
On both occasions, Christensen believes that he was given a clear answer by the municipal caseworker that the wall was not compulsory as he described it. He himself perceived it as a binding acceptance and agreement. It seems clearly unreasonable if it is Christensen who, in a case like this, should be at risk of any misunderstanding.
It is stated that there are service errors with regard to guidance / counseling. If there had been any basis for any kind of doubt with the caseworker regarding the request, she should have asked to have a sketch and / or written presentation of the building measure to make sure that her guidance / advice was correct.

Thus, the municipality's duty to provide sound guidance and / or counseling has failed and in any case has not been properly clarified vs. a contractor who addresses the municipality's planning and building authorities with a very specific question of prior permission in a specific building case.

The case officer was waived by the undersigned as a witness for the district court. However, it later emerged during the main hearing that the State Prosecutor had no knowledge that the case officer to whom Christensen approached had also been a case manager in connection with the planning and development of Krokstien 2 a b c and d.

The person was thus locally known in the area, known for the terrain heights and formations, as she had followed the development No. 1447:
Additional information to the County Governor in Oslo and Viken regarding the Planning and Building Agency's attempts to manipulate and not accept that we have been orally instructed to build a wall that they are currently contesting!
It has been very welcoming and understanding.

Now we got a new one to try again. He was actually more difficult than any of the others. We have applied before, and here was someone who claimed an application that was probably five times more demanding and comprehensive than the previous allowance we had.
Every application was then accepted, that we should submit an application that is more comprehensive than building and seeking to build a brand new house.
It bears witness to arrogance and almost cunning malice to make things most difficult for us.

We have now got a new caseworker that is more twisted and requires more of us than any of the other caseworker we have had after Kaja Aubert Lange. We have experienced those who max hard, but we certainly got one that was even harder and more twisted than those we thought and have experienced as impossible to deal with. The whole PBE in Oslo is for us as the blackest night where nothing we do is good enough, even though the dispensation we ask for and need is minimal.
While others receive exemptions and are granted the largest exemptions imaginable.

So we read the last mail in from PBE, and pretty much all other correspondence. Then what we experience is abuse of power and authority when one is so wrong, yes impossible to deal with. When we do not receive an exemption then in our case, an oral commitment is also the basis. If you look at what we have built then it indicates that the guidance we have been given. It has been followed, and that what is then set up does not stand out in any negative way. The fact is that it is for the benefit of all parties that we have built.
Now PBE wants us to return to what it was before. And that the nearest neighbor has built, with PBE acceptance. It is perfectly fine for us, but one by one, the neighbor's slope is down as our slope did before. Then it is actually about 70 - 80 cm from the road. While our wall is 1 meter. In fact, here our "new" wall is more legal than what PBE wants us to return to.
Don't understand what PBE is doing. Complying with such attachments and instructions is completely incomprehensible to us that it is possible to make such backward orders. Call it what we have built and done for illegalities, while one can even get himself to do most of both the breach of promise and rigid orders etc.

Really hope that there are some righteous people who surround these decisions and orders from PBE here in Oslo that are perceived as meaningless and dark. Follow such orders, it is as if someone should ask you to do a wrong! Maybe that's what it is?

Hope for a positive response and that everything will be turned to our advantage and favor.

We have sent an application before, now we will send another. But then with so much extra that it is really almost impossible to submit without it will be so much extra work and costs that to order to submit such an application. That's how we see it simply to make things as difficult and costly as possible!

In the previous application, our responsible applicants also pointed out this, that everything fits in and nothing has hindered anyone, only favor.

From Completed Test Byggesak AS, Pb 9385 Greenland, 0135 Oslo.

The contractor considered it very appropriate to have an external storage room which ensured good and dry storage, regardless of garage and basement. The alternative would be that bicycles and other things were left outdoors, which was both considered a poorer solution in terms of. decay on the individual objects that had to be left out, a less secure solution with the risk of the objects being stolen and not least a less tidy solution - ie a poor aesthetic solution for the surroundings. The booth was established on an area of ​​little use (north facing slope / fence). The settlement solution was accepted by the nearest neighbor, the measure is well below 15 square meters, and the measure holder was of the clear opinion that this would not trigger the application obligation. As far as we understand, the holder of the initiative has not received any negative feedback on the booth, which is both designed with a subdued expression, with good aesthetic design and further expertly executed. The booth is located at a height below the neighboring fence, and is noticeably visible to the surroundings.

Establishing a shed is not a significant or unreasonable disadvantage for neighbors, neither in terms of. the measures themselves or traffic conditions. There is consent from the nearest neighbor.

Regarding placed wall above previous wall: According to the initiative holder, the wall is placed directly above a former low wall and fence. As it is difficult to accurately specify this, it is difficult to estimate whether this is 100% correct on the millimeter. However, we note that there used to be a fence and a lower wall in the sc. the areas in question. This can be found on the attached photo documentation.

Pertaining to the height of the wall: The height of the wall varies. It is not correct that the wall at the lowest is 1.75 m. However, it is correct that it was incorrectly written that the wall at the highest was 1.5 m in the notice. This was corrected on all notifications with a pen to the correct height and considered with them t clarified. In fact, we do not quite understand what a neighbor wants to achieve with this quote. Height, by the way, is clearly indicated by both drawing and maps.

Regarding the wall has a negative impact on road traffic and maintenance: Reg. This point also seems to indicate that it is somewhat striking that a neighbor in Stormyrveien 4, 5 and 6 has signed these quotations. It is important to emphasize on this occasion that the project owner in this project does not in any way want to indicate his neighbors as he feels that some have done in this case, because he has misunderstood the regulations and erected the wall / building. But when all three neighbors Stormyrveien 4, 5 and 6 themselves have walls that are all adjacent to or within regulated road boundaries, it becomes difficult not to mention this. In addition, when there are several other walls in the area with a similar location, it must be said to be an established practice in the relevant area with walls up to - and indeed also in - regulated road boundaries. I fm. Both Stormyrveien 4 and 6 are also the walls all the way to the paved road. In Stormyrveien 5 is a garage and brick wall with approximately the same location in ft. the roadway as the measure now being applied for. We can hardly see that the wall in Krokstien 2c significantly affects the roadway significantly more than these measures. The fact that 2 neighbor (s) have a continuous exit of more than 20 m, and that none of the 3 neighbors has snooze on their own land, is otherwise considered to contribute significantly more negatively in terms of. traffic conditions than the right wall along the road that is being sought here. But as mentioned - it is not the task of the proprietor to hang up in neighboring circumstances. You just want to get your own situation settled. Mht. In addition, it is obvious that this wall, which is completely out of the roadway, has some influence on road engineering considerations. However, after an overall assessment, the wall is not considered to affect road engineering considerations to a significant extent. Mht. road traffic is affected to a limited extent as the visibility etc. of the right stretch is changed to a small extent. It is shown in this connection for past disclosure. Mht. maintenance then it is pointed out that the asphalt edge is still at a sufficient distance to the wall, and that there is a road shoulder in the area in question, so that you can store some snow here. By the way, there is a considerable area where the wall goes into terrain where snow has been stored in recent years. Initiatives have never experienced this as difficult. As far as we understand, the City Environment Agency has not registered a single complaint or incident in recent years, neither with regard to. that the areas in question are dangerous to traffic or maintenance problems. We note that the wall has been standing for a long time without the road authority in the municipality - which manages and maintains the road - has not registered any problems, neither in terms of. use or operation.

In our opinion, the benefits of giving exemption outweigh the disadvantages in our opinion. The considerations behind the provision and the purpose of the plan are not significantly neglected. Exemption can be granted.
(quote at the end.)

Well, if one comes up here then none of what we've built with what's built here before. It fits in perfectly, and it is in everyone's favor!

That we do not get an exemption, while others get what has taken advantage of the plot actually 57 times more than us. It is only and only PBE malice and to set a standard that they have the power that they are obviously abusing here!
So hope that you make this decision so that what we have built, masonry, stairs and storage will stand and be approved!

We have been seduced by PBE (the planning and building agency here in Oslo), they have really laid a trap for us!

This is what PBE here in Oslo has ordered us to tear down. This is nothing but "mad Mathias" and evil that makes people hold on to this.

Here is our beautiful wall, no bigger or taller than what the neighbor's on the other side.





Also note that next to our wall is the neighbor's sloped plot 20 - 30 c, further opposite the road. As we used to, PBE wants us to. In other words, more "illegal" than we have it today. We do not understand this!


Our booth is exquisite, tearing it down is only malice in people who may seem like it.







Stairs that are necessary and safe to have, demolishing such are only delusional people who want this to be done.




When I see what we've gone through, that's absolutely horrifying.
We are suffering for being law-abiding and calling the municipality of Oslo and following their guidance.

Berit and Jan Kåre Christensen
Crockstone 2 c
0672 Oslo