lørdag 23. juni 2018

No. 1679: Amazingly, we make Bible teaching throughout the Bible available so that you can be introduced throughout the Bible also in Norwegian!

No. 1679:
Amazingly, we make Bible teaching throughout the Bible available so that you can be introduced throughout the Bible also in Norwegian!

Genesis is available first.

Berit og Jan Kåre Christensen

Visit Smyrna Oslo's website where you want to go to the Bible comments.

There you go to the first introduction.

Secondly, you go to Genesis.

Eventually, the whole Bible will be available with, inter alia, more preachers.

lørdag 16. juni 2018

No. 1672: It was not the bad days, but the good days that made King David fall, something to learn and take care of all of us!

No. 1672:It was not the bad days, but the good days that made King David fall, something to learn and take care of all of us!

Picture of Evangelist and Bible teacher Jan Kåre Christensen, Oslo.

Job said very well: "A human life on earth is a war service!"
From my Bible remarks Ephesians 6: 13, 13 Therefore, take God's full armor so that you can resist the evil day and stand after defeating everything.
Therefore, the apostle encourages believers to take the full armor of God so that they can resist the evil day (v. 13). The days are different. Some days we look back with joy, we would rather forget about it. In the coming days, we know nothing but experience, some would be good other evil. We will notice that the Devil is a strategist and feels like a day when we feel everything is hard and heavy, then he comes with his list and temptations to try to lead us to a fall.Special evil days for the people of God are persecution times. In our time, many in the world are being persecuted for their Christian faith, and the world experiences more martyrs than ever in history. The persecution time will culminate in the Antichrist's coming and the great tribulation. Therefore, it is important that we take on God's full armor so that we can stand.(quote ending).
If we study King David's life, there is a lot to learn from. We live in a time of great spiritual struggles, conflicts and controversies. At the same time as strong opportunities in most areas of life. In many ways, we recognize in King David when we read his life story, not least in Samuel, King, Chronicles, and Psalms.
King David's life was from the "great" heights to the "valley"!
We are studying King David's life, so his life went on until he was almost forty years, so he went on the first defeat by cheating on Bathsheba and killing her husband Uria. This was evil in the eyes of the Lord and sin. But what about King David in that moment?
2 Sam. 11. The following year, at the time when the kings tend to go out, David sent Jeho'ab with his servants and all Israel, and they ravaged the land of Ammon, and encamped Rabbah. But David lived in Jerusalem. 2 And it came to pass that one evening David got up from his bed, and went about the roof of the royal house; Then he got up from the ceiling to see a woman who was bathing herself; and the woman was very faint of appearance. 3 David sent messengers and asked about the woman, and they said, "It is Bathsheba, daughter of Eliam, and Uriah's wife, the Hittite. 4 Then David sent and called her for her; She came to him, and he lay with her just after she had cleansed her uncleanness; then she went home again.
His fellow warriors and friends were in war, while King David took a "well deserved" vacation. He spread out on the roof terrace and had too much free time. This was fatal to him when this prompted him to bid for a married woman and he was a married man who started a sexual relationship that caused Bathsheba to become pregnant. Talk about being "foolish", which unfortunately we all at times can be!
We look forward to "good" days, but for our spiritual life, in fact, it is not always something to behave. Unfortunately, unfortunately, when we unfortunately take us freedoms to oppose God and his words when "freedom" becomes too "big"!
We look forward to a "easier" life, with "better" days. For our spiritual life, this is often the "killing". To do "much" to do is usually better than having too little to do.Much resistance is usually better than no resistance, conveniences, relax and "enjoy" is for us people the safest way to decline.It is by doing something, taking responsibility and gladly meeting both resistance, misunderstanding and unfair treatment that our spiritual life grows, matures and grows.
Room. 5. 3 Yes, not only that, but we also boast of our tribulations, for we know that the patience is patience, 4 and patience a minded mind, and it's minded hope, 5 and hope does not shame because God's love is poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, which is given to us.
We humans have a sad tendency to lead to fall, temptation and defeat. Not least when we search for "good" days and a good life, rather than a right life, and live our lives in harmony with the word of the Lord and for the blessing of other people.
Amos 5. 18 Woe to them for a while after the Lord's day! What do you want to do with the Lord's day? It is dark and not light. 19 It's like when one flees for a lion, but strikes a bear, and when he returns home and sticks to the wall with his hand, he gets bitten by a worm.
Applying for the "good" life is not what the Lord has called us first and foremost, but at all times doing his will and living in harmony with the word of God.
Here's what the Prophet says: "It's like when one flees for a lion, but strikes a bear, and when he returns home and sticks to the wall with his hand, he gets bitten by a worm."
In truth is a good picture, we humans will always be gathered from sin unless Jesus and God's word puts us in freedom.
Joh. e. 8. 36 Will the Son be released?

 Place yourselves, then you will be truly free. To live near the Lord Jesus, regardless of life situation. Seek the will of God, and see life on earth as a "war situation" to us believers, then we will also be overcome, the scripture says: Job. 7. Is not a man's life on earth a war service, and his days as days of days? 2 Like a servant waiting for a shadow, and like a man waiting for his reward, 3 I have had my own months full of need, and my hearty nights have fallen. A human life on earth is a war service! I have just been exposed to Norway's greatest justice word. Sentenced for one thing in court and convicted of something completely untreated in court. I clearly said that I was convicted of lying and not documented. It is much healthier for the spirit to be exposed to lies, hatred and conspiracy theories. Still for example. progress, "exaltation" and be well-liked. This must be clear to everyone. Job said very well: "A human life on earth is a war service!" What life is best, live comfortably like King David or in need as Job for a believer? Everyone will of course choose a life like King David, but to believe that Satan is on the verge side because things go your way, it is the world's greatest self-deception. The same and his spirit army will always fight us and be ready to lead us to a fall. David thought that a few days on the roof terrace, that would make him good. Unfortunately, Satan entered and overcame him and led him into sin. Such is Satan, he does not lie on our side if we do. He is always ready to lead and lead us into sin. Therefore beware of the scripture, so that the wicked can not touch us! I wrote in the title here: "It was not the bad days, but the good days that made King David fall, something to learn and take care of us all! "The right attitude for us believers is that we live in a constant spirit struggle if we have" good "or" evil "days, Satan is in the" heels "upon us no matter as long as we follow Jesus and God's word. always if we follow Jesus and God's word. King David lived a life in the spirit and with God, so he believed that this life could be a "holiday" from. One can not, Jobs's attitude to life even if we have a hectic everyday life or live and enjoy a comfortable holiday. We need to take in, our lives as believers are everyday "war service!" 

The image of the wizard and narrator Jan Aage Torp, obviously ruled and misled by Satan and his spirit powers. But Jesus overcame them on Calvary, where he broke the head of snakes, he walked around with a broken head, poor man. 

Final comment: 

Remember, for example, how this fight with the wizard and narrator Jan Aage Torp started. It was like out of the blue I received an email that he had notified me. I responded to this, and Satan was going through Torp. The rest is history of how I was pursued by the Oslo police and the courts here in Norway, all due to because Satan and the demos triggered and ruled these people. The forces of darkness were loose. It tells us that we as believers live in a struggle that the apostle Paul said. Finally, add a bit from my Bible remarks, Ephesians 6: 10. Finally, be strong in the Lord in His mighty power! So, as Paul is jumping from the human and natural part to the spiritual. But all this goes together. God's word encourages us to become strong and to be overcome. We become obedient to the word of God's word and appease to us his mighty power. Even in the GT there were powerful promises to be obedient as we find among other things. in Deuteronomy 28, how much more in the new covenant! 11 Take on the full armor of God, so that you can stand up against the devil's lame attack. Here we shall imitate God's full armor. What it is and includes comes in the next verses. We will not only care about any parts of the armor, but the whole armor. But there are so many believers who never come out or go out of the spirit struggle that this is something they can not quite relate to. It's only when one has been fighting that one understands how important and vital this is. Have you been in battle and suffer defeat, then one will do everything one can to avoid defeat in the next fight! 12 For we do not have a fight against flesh and blood, but against powers and authorities, against the rulers of the world in this dark, against the spirit of evil in the sky. The real opponents are evil spirits under the leadership of the Devil. There are evil spirits of different magnitudes and positions. There are demonic world rulers operating in this darkness in which the world is located. It is a battle against the "breath of breath of evil in the sky." That is, they belong to the spirit world, and thus they are scary dangerous and luminous. Satan acts in many different ways, both as an angel of light (2 Cor. 11:14) and as a roaring lion (1 Pet 5,8). He is most dangerous when he acts as an angel of light, disguised as a messenger of the gospel. God's words say about the last times: "But the Spirit says in plain words that in future, some fall from the faith and adhere to seducing spirits and demonic teachings. It happens by hypocrisy of false teachers who are burned in their own conscience "1 Tim. 4: 1-2. Accordingly, the false teaching has its origins in evil spirits, and the false teachings are influenced by, or under the influence of, evil spirits. Therefore, we can say that it is not a struggle against humans alone, but the Devil and the evil spirits use or abuse people in their struggle against God and the Christians. God's word does not hide the fact that we have an eerie opponent who together with terrible evil spirits will do all that is possible to seduce the children of God. But we must know that Jesus wiped out the evil spirits when he triumphed on Calvary (Col. 2,15). Even though the Devil and his spirit army are defeated, the judgment is not yet enforceable. Therefore, they have yet another time to seduce and tempt us humans, but the judgment of them is already devised. But there are also different spiritualities we stand above. We can divide them.1.) Power and government.2.) The rulers of the world in this darkness.3.) The spirit of evil in the sky. Here we meet three different areas of enemy heroes who will defeat and disturb us. Two of the secret to winning win is to know ourselves and our own thrust. And know the enemy and his thrust.1.) Here we meet the people "Face to Face". Why do not the mass media and everything else write and relate objectively and objectively to us believers and objectively? Satan stands behind.). It is an Spirit that the Bible describes as the Spirit of Satan, the Antichrist's Spirit, the Spirit that works in the infidel's children who work and rule in this world. Contrary to the Spirit of God we can say.3.) Here are the demons and the fallen angels. Demons are usually "small" men of 1 \ 2m if one should see them visible to the eye. The fallen angels are left over the demons again and can multiply we read in Genesis 6. They have assumed to rule this world before joining Lucifer. We read more places in the scripture that the demons infiltrated and occupied the people. While the fallen angels went so far as having intercourse with women and having children with them, they had the opportunity to propagate. But they are spirit creatures that can be both visible and invisible to the naked eye! 1. Genesis 6. 4 At that time, and since also, there was fighting on earth. For the sons of God lived with the human daughters and had children with them. It was the mighty men of ancient times, the namesake. Men's servants feed giants, they are the sons of God, have other genetic conditions that are stronger and different than humans after the fall. King David eradicated those who survived the flood of water, and today they are not persons meat and blood, 2. Samuel's book 21. 18 Then there came a new battle with the Philistines, at Gob. There Sibbekai of the Husja family sprang a man named Saf and was a descendant of Rafa. 19 Once again, it came to pass with the filmmakers at Gob. Elkanan, the son of Ja'are-Orgim of Bethlehem, spelled Goliath from Gath, who had a spear shaft as thick as a crank. 20 Then it was hit at Gat. There was a giant man who had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, twenty four fingers and toes in all. He also belonged to the Rafa family. 21 The man mocked Israel. But Jonathan, son of David's brother Shima, killed him. 22 These four belonged to the Rafa family in Gath. David and his men felt them.23. 21 He also fought a giant Egyptian. The Egyptian had a spear in his hand, but Benaja opposed him with a stick, tore the spear out of the hand of the Egyptian, and killed him with his own spear. It is only at the end of the great tribulation that these spiritual sizes will reveal their true self for all humans. Until then we are their biggest opponents and they are our hardest and greatest opponents. But Jesus has defeated them on the cross once and for all. It is good and reassuring to know. Also, Satan is very concerned about this, so he has put out lies that are not true about this. See here: According to ZetaTalk, David's grandmother had been raped or abused as a sex slave by an anonymous soldier, and had given birth to a hybrid (David's grandmother). There was thus anunnaki blood in David's veins, and as a child he had learned from the mother to hate the giants. This is just a gigantic bluff! Here from my Bible comments Colossians 2:15. He disarmed the powers and the authorities and put them to mockery and speeding when he triumphed over them on the cross. The street and demons had a hint on our lives. We were in the dark and enjoyed the darkness and were Satan's property. But they were disarmed and stood out as liars, prosecutors and without real power. Satan and the demon had been robbed long and thoroughly enough. But no longer, now they were defeated. The victory is perfect. God's Father is satisfied through the work of Jesus at Calvary. We have forgiven the sins, and God can grace us and adopt us into his family as his own children. And Satan and the demon have no real power anymore, they live on borrowed time! Jesus nullified the law for us. It does not matter anymore
for us, only grace in christ jesus

fredag 8. juni 2018

No. 1671: A final card statement why the sentence against me is an justice word, that's because what I'm convicted of having written "too much" is not discussed in court!

No. 1671: 
A final card statement why the sentence against me is an justice word, that's because what I'm convicted of having written "too much" is not discussed in court!

 I consider this a "fuss-dom" when the judgment against me and the heavenly blog appear as a judgment that is not worth the paper it's written on!
Picture of lieutenant Øystein Hermansen who builds the verdict against me on lie in from Oslo Tingrett where narreapostel Jan Aage Torp came with some numbers that were both undocumented and lying numbers that I said clearly in Borgarting Law Court were completely beyond!


This writes Hermansen in the judgment against me and the heavenly blog:The appeal proceedings were held on April 5, 2017 in Borgarting Law Court's house. Jan Kåre Christensen gave no explanation, but took advantage of his right to give a final note. (quote ending).I did, I both explained that the Torp has received is something he has to endure as a public person. And that the numbers underlying the judgment against me and the heavenly blog are neither documented, debated in court and they are completely beyond!Furthermore, Hermansen writes:The case's actual background that the District Court had found proved was based on the appeal case. (quote ending).

This is lie, lie and again lies. I strongly disputed this in Borgarting Lagmannsrett and said clearly and clearly it is possible to say that the figures that Torp and Oslo Tingrett are based on are beyond and shall not be used as the basis for the verdict. When Hermansen completely proves to overlook so clear facts in the case he is a liar and fraudulent!

Listen here what I said:

This writes my lawyer Brynjar Meling tin Norway's Supreme Court:Case handling error, provocation and retributionAs it appears at the bottom of page 4 and at the top of page 5 of the judgment of the Court of Appeal, the defendant stated in his defense that his judgments had to be subjected to punishment or poorly judged by the principle of provocation and retribution.In spite of this statement, the Court of Appeal has, in any case, ignored the extent to which abusive and contradictory opposition by the accused party's verbal assault has been or what characteristics of the convicted person had to withstand in return for his verbal assault against Pastor Torp.
As meaningful assessment of possible impunity or reduced punishment due to provocation and retribution in relation to reciprocal verbal attacks presupposes both a quantitative and qualitative comparison of the arguments put forward on both sides, it is stated that the decision of the Court of Appeal is insufficient.The Court of First Instance has - see first full section on page 8 of the judgment - in the present context limited to finding that Torp's counterattack against Christensen has helped escalate and prolong the conflict between convicted and insulted. This is insufficient to determine the significance of the "balance of payments", either for the sake of guilt or punishment.The above-mentioned inadequacy of the premises of the Court of Appeal is further related to Strl. (1902) § 250 is not mentioned at all in the court's premises, which in itself is also an additional inadequacy given the questions relating to the law of the court of law, see below.(quote ending).Hear yourself from Borgarting Court of Appeal where I say that Narreapostel Jan Aage Torp's numbers are completely beyond and they are not documented either.When judge in this case Øystein Hermansen writes in this case that I did not comment on anything and the figures are not contested. Then just listen to YouTube and Hermansen is "trapped" in lies and again more lies!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09b4ap1h5B4&t=38s

tirsdag 5. juni 2018

No. 1670: That's not something I regret in my fight against Jan Aage Torp, because the verdict against me is a justice word!

No. 1670:That's not something I regret in my fight against Jan Aage Torp, because the verdict against me is a justice word!
I had to put down the blog justism word, but what I've written and spoken I do not regret anything.
Imagine, I have been charged with one thing, the court dealt with something completely different.It was law enforcement, which was the main theme.
Then I was sentenced for something that the court did not treat and which I warned against was a lie.When the court judges in Oslo District Court and Borgarting Lagmannsrett "make" a verdict to settle me, then it is a justice word, nothing else.
Judge in Borgarting Court of Appeal Øystein Hermansen, who writes a lie against me.

Judge in Oslo Tingrett Malin Strømberg Amble who also wrote a lie against me when she judged me has never been dealt with in court.

Amount of writings in the case between me and the narrator postage Jan Aage Torp (pictured)I was convicted of, but this was never discussed in court.
Since I consider myself 100% innocent, and I have not received fair treatment in the Norwegian judiciary, the blog "Justismord" was necessary!
Look for the appeal to the Strasbourg Human Rights Court in France. If you read this whole "butterfly" you will get an overview of the whole case from the beginning to end:file: /// C: / Users / Jan / Downloads / jkcklage (2) .pdf
Picture of investigator Oda Karterud at Manglerud politics who must take much of the blame for the whole thing against me has been a daddy in my opinion after a miserable and bad police work.She has completely proven to go after me, although everyone else in this case has gone a lot longer than me both in amounts of writing, and verbal words and expressions.


Oda Karterud, who, in my opinion, has done a horrifel investigation job characterized by one thing, take me and let everyone else go free!
The charges against me that speaks of that I have called Torp for leper, adulterer, nasty, rude, psychopath and narcissistic, but quantity is not mentioned here with a single word.
Has now tried me in four courts and has not managed to be acquitted from the verdict of Oslo District Court.
In short, about the four legal processes.
1.) There was a father's similar trial in the Oslo District Court in January 2016. Where I was charged with one thing and convicted of something that was not yet in court proceedings. That there were lots of writings. Which caused them to judge me, even though it was neither in the trial nor we discussed it in court.
2.) It became a partial appeal to Borgarting Lagmannsrett, which applied primarily to law enforcement. Listen to Brynjar Meling's procedure:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnLmUHtMdB8&t=4183s
I pointed out that the numbers that Torp joined the district court was undocumented, beyond and they can not emphasize those numbers when they are only taken out of the air!Listen from what I said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09b4ap1h5B4
3.) The appeal to the Norwegian Supreme Court rejected without explanation.
4.) The appeal to the Human Rights Court in Strasbourg in France rejected, with the reasons given in paragraph 35, that I had pronounced myself.
What shall we say to this? This is as I write in the headline:"Since I consider myself 100% innocent and I have not received fair treatment in the Norwegian judiciary, the blog" Justice Word "is necessary!"
It is then entitled to write and make this blog, which is primarily intended to take forward the article that has been written during the four years before the matter was now finally concluded that they rejected the appeal min in France.
Just imagine what they have written on the fake Smyrna blog and they are not even charged, unthinkable.
What has Jan Aage Torp and his allies called and written about me? Should I check everything, there will be more books. Therefore, I will put out some of the old stuff here on this new blog, and you will get an overview.
Taking what Even Gran in FriTanke writes in his article about this in the end, which merely illustrates the miserable police work that has been. And what others have written to me both in quantity and quasi words, surpasses me many times!
But, with the pretext of being a satire blog, they've got to write everything they've wanted.
Satire blog's dark side"Smyrna church Oslo" was certainly not just satire anyway.
COMMENT: Many seem to trick last week by the article "The flood of sørlandet is God's punishment over this region's gays orgies !!!" on the website of "Smyrna church in Oslo."Several shared it on social media in the belief that this was a good example of how many individual extreme Christian groups might be. The Adresseavisen also went on the limp and "took satire blog seriously" as Dagbladet formulated it.It is easy to think that the "Smyrna church in Oslo" is just satire. Headlines such as "Women who go in pants have inflicted Norway an epidemic of lesbianism" and "Order your kyskhets bed from Smyrna Church!" Is so exaggerated that it could not possibly be meant seriously. According to the blog, the "chastity bed" works by increasing the weight

of two people trigger spikes coming up through the mattress. The bed is sold "for the modest amount of 18 750 kroner." In the article "Order a chastity dress for your son or son's son from Smyrna Church!" The church advertises a cross that you can tie the pen firmly to avoid masturbation. In other words, this must be humor. It must be satire. Quite funny is that too. It's hard to avoid laughing at headlines like "Are landscape images of rainbows really concealed propaganda for the gay and lesbian mafia?" Here it was more than I thought A bird snapped me in the ear this day that there is also another website at The name "Smyrna Oslo" - a church that seems to be 100% serious. What does the proprietor of this page, Jan Kåre Christensen, think of the other Smyrna church in Oslo, who is doing conservative Christianity under the same name. Could there be a case here? When I got Christensen in a speech, I quickly realized that here was a huge background story that had passed me by. In January 2016, Jan Kåre Christensen was sentenced to shaman for a long time against another Christian conservative pastor , Jan-Aage Torp. Christensen has accused and hid Torp to live in "horror" because he is divorced and married again. One of Christen's main affairs as a Christian preacher is obviously hanging out Christian leaders who violate the Bible's ban on reprisals. When you divorce and marry again, you are simply a "horkarl." When it comes to the "satire website" we have called to ask for, Christensen says that this is a website that Torp and two others use to shed anonymous shit about he. Jasså, then the "Smyrna church in Oslo" is not only written by any ghosts who want to do good with Christianity? No, that's not it. Because when I look up the name "Jan Kåre Christensen" on the blog, I get a lot of hits, and here is the tone a bit different from the tulips of gay organs in southern Norway or that women in pants lead to an "epidemic of lesbianism." The article about Christensen , published in August of this year, is not meant to be fun. It contains strong and partly injurious accusations. The purpose is to summarize "10 years of Christianity's terror and shaman". The article is, like the newer and more fun satire articles, signed by the pseudonym "Arne Ulf Breen for Smyrna Church". No one will keep up with the blog. Looking back into the archive we find many articles about Christensen. Ever since April 2015 there has clearly been a high level of conflict between Christensen and the author of the article, which is always said to be the pseudonym "Arne Ulf Breen for Smyrna Church." "Breen" blames Christensen for identity theft, lies and principlelessness. Ruling is used a great deal, for example, in ironic "thanksgivings" to Christensen and his wife. Who can this mysterious "Arne Ulf Breen" be. Who is behind "Smyrna menighet Oslo"? Christensen himself is not in doubt. Opposed to Fritanke.no he named three people: Torodd Fuglesteg, Ansgar Braut and not least his counterpart in the trial he lost in January 2016, Jan-Aage Torp. Christensen says that he has a police report on the blog several times, but that the police do not do anything. I will take a phone to the pastor Jan-Aage Torp. He refuses to have anything to do with the blog. Torp says he has been hinted about the blog and read a little in it. During the trial, he was asked if he had anything to do with it, which he rejected. Torp realizes that Christensen reacts to some of what is there, saying that he had reacted very strongly if someone had written an anonymous blog which hung him out the same way. Torp records that he himself is pretty good at blogging, but does not want to wonder who can stand behind it. He finds it to be harmful that Christensen accuses him of writing the blog but will not prosecute the case. We have also been in contact with Torodd Fuglesteg as mentioned by Christensen. He does not want to comment on the matter. The third person Christensen believes is behind the blog, Ansgar Braut, is uncertain about being a real person or a pseudonym. A profile with that name commented earlier in the comments field at Fritanke.no. We have tried to get in touch but have not received an answer. Nothing to shout hurry, and that's the case. The blog that last week saw a lot of flirting for striking and funny Christianity and who even managed to trick at least one big newspaper is also ... yes, should we go as far as to say ... a mob blog? Yes, I think so one can say. The ridicule, humor, irony and sarcasm used to hit Christensen and the wife in some of the articles are infam. It must also be noted that Christensen, in his monomental condemnation of things that in his mind is not "biblical", is a single victim. The truth may be that if you want to hang out someone online, you should not, like Christensen, go out under full name, hang out named people and call them "horebukker", "old pigs" and such. Then you are easy to take and
 can soon end up with a judgment in court. It is much better to protect yourself from a subtle interpretation of smart humor, satire, sarcasm and irony. That's something that every effective bully knows. Do not pick up people in the schoolyard. Cut a ugly ugly as the victim can not fault and say "you do not understand anything" if you are confronted. Also come with small regular stitches that are difficult to confront, but nevertheless hit without mercy. And if you use the web, you can enjoy the usability of anonymity. "Smyrna church Oslo" and "Arne Ulf Breen" mean even more than a mob-friendly higher level than Christensen. But I definitely do not think it deserves anything more than such a sarcastic congratulations from my side. Are you so clever that you can write such fun and striking satire as part of what we find at "Smyrna Menighet Oslo", then you should also be so clever that you do not let go of harassing people.