tirsdag 24. januar 2017

No. 1454: Prosecutors will decide whether to open an investigation, inter alia, in the evil trinity, or they let it pass!

No. 1454:
Prosecutors will decide whether to open an investigation, inter alia, in the evil trinity, or they let it pass!

How about "It looks as if more revealing pastor Jan-Aage Torp for his unaccountable. Jigging always proves, they say in the north."
Photo by Jan Aage Torp and Aina Lanton which unfortunately has been dragged into this darkness and live it the same way as Torp and his judgment of her life!

There is no doubt that it is Jan Aage Torp pulling the strings and controlling these deluded souls where he wants and will.
Scripture says if the blind lead the blind, they both, or should we say all three fall into the ditch.
Matt. 23 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You cross land and sea to win one proselyte, and when you succeed, you make him a child of hell twice as much as yourselves.
It's bad with Torp but Torodd Fuglesteg and Ansgar Braut is as it is written, twice as bad! But Torp is "apostle" so it'll pass up up!
Reviewed the relationship regarding forgery, whose case number:
Excerpts from my complaint as they are now looking at:
Complaints about the shelving of the case of review number 13952169
Complaint reviewed relative to Stovner police! The perpetrator is known, then to drop the case makes Oslo police to a corrupt police if they do it!
I have been driven to the court for far less things than this.
If the police shelve this matter, as witnesses police that they operate with two sets of laws!
It is obvious that this with document forgery and everything else that has happened to me and my family the last four years.
This is of course in Jan Aage Torp or one of his disciples who are behind this, who else?
(End quote).
Here's some more from the complaint sent to the prosecutor:
Subject: Review number
There are tons of things against me and my family from these three the last 4 years.
I have reviewed these repeatedly miscellaneous offenses.
And also heard that a xxxxxxxxxxx also Reviewed these?
There are countless things, that I have a relationship with those at Manglerud Police etc.
This printer either think I January Aage Torp or his associates:
Jan Kåre Christensen have both sexually and in other ways, harassed and terrorized police women Monica Lille Bakken, Oda Karterud and Lena Fjalestad from Manglerud Police.
Jan K Christensen
(End quote).
Pray dear friends that the public prosecutor wakes up and begins investigation.
When there are at least three criminals go free here. Yes, the evil trinity will unfortunately operate exactly as they want, without being punished for this they do!
Pray dear friends that prosecutor and Polti doing his job, the head have not done until now.
Their job is:
Room. 13. 1. Everyone shall be obedient to the authorities he has over himself. For there is no authority which is not from God, and those that exist are appointed by God. 2 Whoever opposes them, are refusing to obey what God has determined, and those who do, will bring judgment. 3 For rulers, should not create fear in the person who does good, but in him who does evil. You will not have to fear the authorities, so make it good, and thou shalt have praise. 4 Control Power is a servant of God, to work for you. But you do evil, you have reason to be afraid. For government would not carry the sword for no reason, however, is servant of God to execute his wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
I've lived in accordance with Norwegian law, earning my own money and made it good. As also my family has done, as these attacks!
But this evil trinity as mentioned here, is exactly the opposite.
They are simply offenders both to God's word and Norwegian law.
Here unfortunately Oslo police have not done their job, but let's hope for change. For the evil trinity are three criminals obviously!
Here an article I wrote about this evil trinity some time ago.
No. 1210:
From Søkelys: "Torodd, Ansgar Braut and Torp is a kind of darkness trinity - which is always on the wrong side in spiritual matters."

Just want to say that I have not written a single word from the quotes, then it's Searchlight premier accusation that I write myself. Something that is not true whatsoever! Randi I have no idea who is, but that Torodd Fuglesteg should write straight out what he did was in excess revealing. This he did yesterday, so it is said!

This is taken from the site VG:

 Randi Wed, 05/14/2016 at 12:40 said:
Torodd talking about who is reputable? Hypocrite. Torodd is Torp's lackey and poodle and have revealed their true evil I. As a man who wants a servant of the Lord's death and under the turf.
I have been asked who these two lackeys and poodles to Jan Aage Torp is.
Now there are several that have blackened and harassed me online that Bjørn Storm Johansen, Kjell Andersen, Birgir Hermansen, Free Pentecostal, Siri Haugen and many others. But the two worst in this respect, it is Torodd Fuglesteg and Ansgar Braut who writes certainly under a 20-30 different names. Everything to hang out me and my family!
If what I have written is a criminal offense, then you have what Ansgar Braut and Torodd Fuglesteg written be life sentences.
So great is the difference, therefore the whole case against me is nothing but a judicial murder the greatest, not the worst in Norway's history, guaranteed! Torodd has also written that he wants Jan Kåre dead and dangling a rope. Talk about honesty: Torodd wrote this:
"The purpose of these records has hosted aa give JKC enough rope to dangle in. Thus, the mission is complete."
This shows what kind of spirit that lives in Torodd Fuglesteg: He is a man without cloud which is willing to fight God's servants by whatever means, -and see enough time that all who believe in the Bible dead and buried. Now I disagree Searchlight in several areas, particularly in relation to Christensen, but in many cases writing Searchlight as the word of God says ... and notice it: Every single time is Torodd Fuglesteg, this satanist who has assumed a certain religious mask function. Just as today's false apostles have a religious language, we see their true colors when it really go to the spirit world. Torodd, Ansgar Braut and Torp is a kind of darkness trinity -which is always on the wrong side in spiritual matters.

Image of Torodd Fuglesteg which has a stated philosophy aims to get me to dangle from a gallows!

Here's more from Searchlight:

1. Torodd Fuglesteg Wed 05.14.2016 at 2:58 p.m. said:
.... this while the former butler to Donald Trump has written that Obama should be executed because he is anti-Christian. An opinion shared by many posts in the spotlight over the years.

Here writes actually Torodd Fuglesteg straight out that it is "normal" in Searchlight desire and promoting other people's dead!

This printer Torodd Fuglesteg, "this while the former butler to Donald Trump has written that Obama should be executed because he is anti-Christian. An opinion shared by many posts in Searchlight over the years. "

In other words, manages than this can not be said!

It says only that all what I have written and spoken, it is 120% true!

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lørdag 21. januar 2017

No. 1453: When he stands on the Holy Spirit, so it has nothing to do with that it is a person, but grammatical inflections of a sentence for the message to arrive!

No. 1453:
When he stands on the Holy Spirit, so it has nothing to do with that it is a person, but grammatical inflections of a sentence for the message to arrive!
Image of Jesus himself prayed to the only true God, called him Father, his God and the only true God and he was bigger than him! In other words, even Jesus saw in God the Father as greater than themselves! Yes, it was Father who showed him everything he should do, and it was from him he had expired!

Joh. e. 16 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for he shall not speak of himself, but what he hears, he will speak, and the things to come, he will tell you.
It is strange with too many people, a reader word of God as one wishes to see a truth. In other words, when comes into a tunnel where most is possible.
God wants us to read his words with open eyes, open hearts and pray that it is he who reveals his word and the significance it has. Here we are equal, then it is only by God's Spirit we are capable of this.
1 Cor. 2. 6 Dog, we speak wisdom among the perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the rulers, that come to naught; 7 but a mystery we speak God's wisdom, the hidden, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 Which none of this world knew; for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, and what not opkom in any human heart, what God has prepared for them that love him. 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God; 11 For what man knows the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? So do not the things of God except the Spirit; 12 but we have not received the world's spirit, we have received the Spirit of God, that we might know the things that are given to us by God, 13 that we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches, but in words that the Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for it is foolishness to him, and he can not know them, because they are spiritually discerned 15 but the spiritual discerns all things, but he himself is judged of no man 16 For who hath known the mind, so that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

2 Pet.
 1. 19 also a more sure we have the prophetic word, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20 since I primarily know this, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation; 21 For no prophecy ever came by the will of man, but holy men of God spake under the power of the Holy Spirit.
We notice one thing here, it is that we are all totally dependent on God's Spirit and God's help to understand the Bible in a correct and timely manner.
It does not help if we go seven years and study the Bible, if we study the Bible with others or together with other people. What is crucial is that God puts his blessing, and he gets revealed it to us!
We can not read all the words of God, and take it literally. If we do, then we can and will misunderstand God and His Word!
Here is an example of God's word, which can easily misunderstand and misinterpreted!
Heb. 12. 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and the cleansing blood that speaks more than the blood of Abel.
Here it says that Abel's blood speaks, this should be understood literally? Or it should be understood by figuratively? Of course the past, we can not believe that God believes that a blood speaks. But it talks about the blood of Jesus is stronger than his death crying for revenge. In other words, love is stronger than hate!
We have endless other examples, showing that we can not take the word of God literally. If we do that, we end crying and gnashing of teeth!
Matt. 18. 8 If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away! It is better for you to enter maimed or lame into life than to have two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you! It is better for you to enter one-eyed into life than to have two eyes and be thrown in the fire of hell.
Should one take this literally? Of course not, had done had been not healthy. No one should chop off a body part literally, likewise little we understand that he is a person. All this we must understand from the context in which it is spoken, then realize with God's Spirit the real meaning of it all!
Here is an article written by my good friend Arne Jordly.

Nr. 263:
If God is Christ?

By Arne Jordly

We are directly built on the most central question of the Trinity. Some say that when Mary of Magdala and the other women after the resurrection of Jesus fell down at his feet (and worshiped him), (MAT 28:9. See also Luke 24:52) Christ proves that he is God Almighty, since he not rejected her worship, for the Scripture says: 'The Lord your God shall you worship and him alone shall you serve.' (Luke 4:8 after quote from 5MO 6:13) This is the same reason the argument that Catholics use in their exaltation of the Virgin Mary, namely: God, Christ and Mary is the mother of Christ. Thus, the Virgin Mary is also Mother of God! See ROM 1:25 and 2:9 2TE.

1. The Greek word used in the basic text, proskuneo.
Proskuneo, verb = bend down in front of reverence, throwing himself down before the feet. The word has evolved from the basic meaning of 'to lick his master's hand' (a dog). In the Greek Scriptures, the word as much as 60 times in 54 verses, but never in the sense of worship. The word for worship is proseuchomai used 90 times in the Greek Scriptures. (See table page 38)
The word proskuneo is used to show reverence to God and Kris's status, or any other person you want to show reverence, of course, except where reverence / awe belong to God. (Rev 10:25, 7:10 p.m., 22:8) When proskuneo in Norwegian texts translated worship, voices this is far from consistent with the meaning of the Greek.

LUK 4:8: For it is written, the Covenant: 'Thou shalt honor the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.'

Greek grapho proskuneo curious theos Mono Latreuo. Here are proskuneo often translated as worship in accordance with the Norwegian Bible tradition.

Meaning of the word from Greek into English: proskuneo, pros-koo-neh'o, meaning: to kiss, like a dog licking His Master's hand, two fawn or crouch two, ie (Lit. or fig.) Dean rate oneself in homage, ( do REVerence two, adore) - worship.

2. Another form of worship / praise is eulogeo.
Another word used in Greek writings, is Eulogio. (Luke 24:53) If we compare LUK 24:52 with LUK 24:53, (See table page 39) we see that because the text uses the word Eulogio in worship and praise of God. This distinguishes these two verses clearly between God and Christ in the choice of words, although this is not consistently implemented in the Greek Scriptures. Eulogio word is also used in the sense of blessing, that if both the blessing that comes from God, or go to God. The word is also used of Christ, implied that all true blessing from God Almighty and not directly from his Son Jesus Christ, but by him.

LUK 24:53, King James: And they were continually in the temple, praising and praising God. Amen.

Greek: enanti Hieron aineo Eulogio theos amen
Meaning of the word from Greek into English: Eulogio, yoo-log-eh-o: two speak well of, ie (Religiously) to bless (thank or Invoke benediction upon, prosper) - bless, praise

3. The word for invocation is epikaleomai.
This word is used in Greek texts of both God and Christ, according to who to call. Some claim that this word only refers to God, but it is not the case. (DONATE 7:59, ROM 10:12) The word also means calling, (heat, name) in addition to last name, nickname.

Meaning of the word from Greek into English: epikaleomai. ep-ee-kal.eh-on-ahee, two Entitle, the city implemented. two Invoke (for aid, worship, testimony, decicion, etc.): - appeal (unto), call (on); surname.

4. The word of the true God, worship / service is Latreuo.
Meaning of the word from Greek into English: Latreuo, Lat ryoo'o; from latris (a HIRED menial), two minister (to God), ie render religious homage: - serve, do the service, worship (-per).

5. The word for the practical service / help is diakoneo, cf. the difference between worship / church service and the priest / deacon.

Meaning of the word from Greek into English: diakoneo, dee-ak-on-er-o: two request an at-tendant, ie wait upon (menially or as a host, friend or (fig.) teacher; techn. two act as a Christian deakon: - (ad-) minister (unto), serve, use the office as a Deacon.
Although it may be interesting to distinguish between the importance of proskuneo, eulogeo and epikaleomai what worship is concerned, are not these the words of decisive importance in the relationship between God and Christ. For Jesus, citing not his father backwards. He does not say, 'The Lord thy God shalt thou serve, and him only shalt thou worship,' so many interpret this Bible verse. No, in MAT 4:10, he says: 'Here, clean your God will honor you, and him only shalt thou serve.' Therefore, the word earn crucial in the relationship between God and Christ, for if the word serve is used as much of Christ as though God Almighty, the argument that God is Christ, since he allowed and will be worshiped / served, have a firmer foundation. Thus, the word serve is of crucial importance for our understanding of the relationship God / Christ. The Greek word for serve is Latreuo. It is used 21 times in 20 verses in the Greek text. This word is used only in importance to serve / worship God, and never about Jesus Christ! The word is correct in NOK DONATE 7:42, ROM 1:25 and HEB 8:5 used of that which does not directly refer to God Almighty, but under the clear understanding that this is false worship / service, or idolatry.
But anyway, this voice? For already in the next verse, in MAT 4:11, King James, it says about Jesus: "Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him. 'Correct, but this is another form of service. The word used here is not Latreuo, but diakoneo. (See table on page 39) Latreuo is only for the true worship, while diakoneo account for the practical hjepletjenesten. Again: Compare worship / church service or a priest / deacon.

NB! It can easily lead to confusion that the Norwegian Bible translators do not consistently distinguish between the original meaning of these words, for in the Greek text, this is clear. Therefore, the biblical basis of truth which is presented by God through Moses, confirmed by Jesus Christ and repeated by Jesus' half brother James, irrefutable: 'The Lord your God is one!'

A. God's clear commandments to Moses in 5MO 6:13: "Thou shalt honor the Lord your God, and him only shalt thou serve! 'The same is confirmed by Jesus faced Satan in MAT 4:10 and Luke 4:8.

B. What did Jesus when he was asked what was the greatest commandment in the law in MAR 12:29? Jesus replied: 'The greatest commandment in the law is this: Hear O Israel, the Lord your God! Lord is one! And you shall love the Lord your God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, with all thy mind, and with all your strength. This is the greatest commandment!
C. And what do you say James, Jesus' half brother, about this in James 2:19? 'You believe that God is one. You think right! The demons also believe, and tremble! '

The word Latreuo is used only for the true (or false) god worship, and never, not once, about Jesus Christ! The word is in any context due to God Almighty and may never, directly or indirectly, to Jesus Christ as a part of this divinity! Therefore, it is clear that the Trinity, as set forth in Konkordie-book, have never been and never will be, part of the Bible's teachings and the basic truths.

In addition, the fact that the Trinity philosophy was not part of the Christian preaching before the year 390 AD (After the council of Kartagena) when the Roman emperor demanded such an addition after Christianity had become state religion of the Roman Empire. (We all know from the current situation in Norway that God's words, 'surrender' in relation to state power, cf. The question of abortion, female and / or gays priests and church servants.) This required the emperor to calm down the rebellion in the pagan provinces, especially Egypt, where residents refused to accept a religion with only one God, and especially not the God of Israel, because all of their religions consisted of various forms of triune deities. (Do not biblical, but historically justified.)
It is clear that the Trinity, the Greek (pagan) philosophy (Plato) has never been a part of Christ's teachings. On the contrary, Jesus said on several occasions that his Father is greater than him, cf. MAT 24:36, John 5:19, John 14:28, 8:6 1KO, 2KO 5:28. Compare that with section 6, 24 and 25 in Konkor-dieboken. (Page 48) Is it true worship of God to carry His only electricity. only Son Jesus Christ a liar?
The Pharisees and chief priests: 'First they killed God's only begotten Son, Je-sus Christ. Then they praised God. 'Can such divination give blessings?
What about Jesus' statement in John 10:30: 'I and the Father are one?' Read John 7:21 in depth and forget it ever! It says: 'I pray that they all may be one in us, as thou, Father, are in me and I in thee, that they also may be one with us, that the world may believe that you sent me.'
Does the fact that "all believers to be one with God as Christ is one with God, that they are God Almighty? Of course not! No more than Christ. It means that God, Christ and the church shall constitute a community in the true faith, 'that the world may believe that you sent me.'
Explanation of the Bible verses that are used as false proof that the Bible teaches that God is Christ

1. JES 9:6, NKJ: 'To us a child is born, a Son is given. Herreveldet is on his shoulders, and his name shall be: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. '

JES 9:6 in Hebrew, from Strong's Hebrew / Greek:
yeled yalad ben nathan Misrah shekem Shem Quara 'Pele' ya'ats gibbowr 'or' ad 'ab sar shalowm

The meaning of the word 'el in all shades, from Hebrew to English:
'El, ale; (abbr for eloyhim = God) strength, as adj. Mighty, espec. the Almighty (but used Also of Any deity) - Good (good), godly, great, idol, might (-y) one), power, strong. Comp. names in-el.

The meaning of the word God (god) from Hebrew via English to Norwegian: Please note that the word God means powerful. It is used both to God Almighty, and all others who are powerful, for example. different idols. Of course, Christ is powerful, but he is not God Almighty.
NB! No capital letters in the Hebrew language!

SAL 82:6: 'I have said, Ye are gods, the Most High sons are all of you.' That Christ is Wonderful Counselor is fine, but now we understand that he is 'well-you god,' because he is a of God's many sons!

The meaning of the word 'ab in all shades, from Hebrew to English:' ab, awb, a prime. word, father (in a trust, and immed., or fig. and remote application) - chief, (be-) father, patrimony, principal. Comp. names in Abi-.

By translating from Hebrew via English, we see that the word for father, not only does the father, but it also has many other meanings, such as the chief causes. This is without a doubt Does the right translation here, and not Father How do I know? Yes, Jesus said it himself in MAT 23:9: 'And call not any on earth father, for you have only one Father, who art in heaven.' (Now you understand why many people use this verse as proof that God is Christ.) Why Does correct? Yes, also I have directly from Jesus! Already in the next verse, in MAT 11:10 p.m., he says: 'And do not be called masters, for only one is the driver, and it is Christ.' Who is Abimelech? Yes, he was the leader of the Palestinians, the king. (1MO 20:2) The basic meaning of the word 'ab is the foremost. (1MO 20:2) This is the correct translation of this verse: 'For a Child is born, a Son is given. Herreveldet was placed on his shoulders, and his name shall be: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, durable Driver, Prince of Peace. '

One thing I guarantee: The Bible never contradicts itself! When it does so, it is always our understanding that falls short or is based on mistranslated else! Note in particular that 'no one on earth will be called the Father,' cf. 'The great Father in Rome.'

2. ROM 9:4-5, DNB. 'They are Israelites, to them belong the sonship (NOTE: Should be a son named, adoption as sons), God's glory and the covenants. Their is no law, temple service and the promises, 5 those belonging to the fathers and from them, Christ came, who is God over all things. '

ROM 9:5 in Greek, from Strong's Hebrew / Greek: in Father of kata sarx Chris-tos ho epi pas theos eulogetos aion amen
There is great controversy about the translation of this verse. NIV, New Inter-national Versin, USA 1984, has translated it into three options: It is the first time I've seen a Bible translation in three options: 'Their are the Patriarch, and from retardation is traced the human ancestry of Christ, Who is Good over all, forever praised. '* Amen. (Or: 'Christ, Who is over all. Good pray forever praised!' Or '- Christchurch. God, Who is above all pray forever praised!) Sounds Brown, a Norwegian translation of 1945, the following translation:' - from those strains Christ after his carnal birth, - God, who rules over all things, be praised forever! Amen. 'Diaglott, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, USA, 1942, the same wording, just to name a few. It is clear that most over-puts this verse in keeping with their faith, for or against tree Lagting teaching!

What is correct? Språkkyndige generally agree on the following notation, all III NIV: 'All this belonged to our ancestors, and from them descended Christ! Our God who is above all, be blessed forever! Amen. '
It would be needless to say that this translation agrees with the biblical because the truth that God Almighty is without beginning and end, and that Jesus Christ is His only begotten (Group Images monogenes) Son!

3. KOL 1:16-20. 'For in him were all created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities. Everything is created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and all composed by him. He is head of the body, which is the church. He is the origin, the first-born of the dead, that he in all things may be the best. It was God's will to leave all his fullness dwell in him and through him to reconcile all things to himself, everything in heaven and everything on earth, when his made peace through the blood of His cross. '

The fact that someone can use these Bible verses as proof that Christ is God, is unbelievable! Each clause in these verses stand the clearly between God and Christ! As written, 'that it was God's will to let the whole (God's) fullness dwell in him (Christ),' it is this clause that is interpreted to mean that God says he is Christ. But what about the next clause, '- for by (through) him to reconcile all things to himself.' Votes for this is that God is Christ? No, see, then, most fablerne an answer!

4. KOL 2:8-9. 'Make sure no one gets caught you with wisdom, doctrine and vain deceit that rests on human tradition and shallow in the world, and not from Christ.' (Ground forces in the world: GAL 4:3) In him is all divine fullness to the present. '

The fact that 'the whole fullness of deity's bodily presence' of Christ, can not possibly make him God Almighty. It means quite clearly that Jesus Christ as a whole constitutes an image of the invisible God who is the closest anyone can get him. Read GAL 4:3: 'But in the fullness of time (the exact time was passed in fulfillment, feelings) God sent his Son, born of woman, born under the law.'
Can it be said more clearly than this? The aim is not Paul just to triune-safety doctrine when he warns of 'wisdom teachings and vain deceit that rests on human tradition and stems from the basic powers of this world (all that is of Satan, secular and false Christians), and not from Christ?

5. HEB 1:5-9, NKJ: 'For whom the messengers God has ever said,' You are my Son, I have begotten you today. Or, as it stands, I will be a Father to him, and he shall be a son to me. '6 And when he shall keep his firstborn into the world again, he says:' All the angels of God worship him. '7 About the angels, he said: 'He makes his angels winds, his servants flames-friendly fire.' 8 But about the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, is for ever, and righteousness stake is your scepter. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated iniquity: therefore God, your God, anointed you with oil of gladness above your enemies. '

The first uthevde text speaks for itself. How anyone can use it as evidence that God is Christ, is above my comprehension, for there God says just the opposite, not just once, but two! But in verse 8 and 9 is not it clear that God himself calls Jesus God! I shall now go forward because the text and move closer into it.

I will confine myself to translate the first 5 words, and you will clearly see where the error is: huios thronos theos aion aion. The fault lies in the use of the first word, which means son. The right translation, word for word, the 'Son of the throne (is from) God in time and times,' (To consider the right translation from Greek to Norwegian, it is important to note that the Greek is without both the indefinite article, and without using verbs. In addition, the use of prepositions, very limited.) Notice the word lego in verse 7 It means to say. This word is not used in verse 8, but it is still included in the translation! I could have shown more examples, but this will hold for now!

HEB 1:8-9), Strogg Hebrew / Greek: 8 Aggelos lego at poieo Aggelos pneuma leitourgos phlox pure 8 huios thronos theos aion aion rhabdos euthutes rhabdos Basileia 9 agapao dikaiosune miseo anomias dia touto theos theos chrio elaion agalliasis parameter metochos

Covenant: 8 But the Son is the throne of God in time and times, and justice staff should be your (the Son) kingdom scepter. 9 Because you have loved justice and hated of lawlessness, God, your God, soaked up with oil of gladness and exalted you above your heirs. 'Paul refers to SAL 45:7-8, cf. MAT 26:6-13

By the way: Let me mention one thing: metochos does not foes, but co-heirs. And who are joint heirs with Christ?

metochos, met'-okh-os; participant, i.e. (As noun) a share; city implemented. an as-sociate: - fellow, partaker, partner. (Note: As you can see, this does not mean the word enemy, but the joint-heir, one who has fellowship with. It is reasonable to believe, with some benevolence, that they have translated this text, have not understood who is joint heirs with Christ. But it should nevertheless a high degree of free imagination to get the word joint-heir to mean enemy. - Or is it a deliberate forgery?

6. SAL 45:8. 'Your throne, O God, is for ever, and righteousness stake is your scepter.' I refer to section 5 However, note how fundamental differences len is only a small adjustment in the translation. Here is just a matter of where you put the auxiliary verb and pronoun that does not exist in Greek.

DNB: 'You have loved righteousness and hated iniquity, therefore God, your God, anointed you with oil of gladness above your enemies.' Here, God is directly converted to Christ.

Covenant: Because you have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness, (anomias = lawlessness), God, your God, soaked up with oil of gladness and exalted you above your heirs. 'Here is Christ the Son of God and God Almighty also Christ God. And again: Who is Jesus' heirs, his adopted sons?

7. 2MO 3:14. 'God said to Moses:' I am who I am. 'Thus you shall say to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you.' (Kom. DNB: I Am: How interpreted the Hebrew name Yahweh, which is derived from a Heb. word for 'to be.' In over-looked translated usually with the Lord.)

2MO 3:14, Hebrew: 'elohiym' amar mosheh hayah hayah 'amar koh' amar legs yisra'el hayah shalach

I have never experienced so bye bibelfabling that when it comes to the importance of God's own name, YHWH, Jehovah, Jahveh or Jehovah, perhaps with the exception of the rapture. All of the basic texts use the form Jehovah. When God Almighty himself explains the meaning of his name, he says that it is hayah hayah. He repeats it, or say the same word twice. The word is used 1116 times in 1114 verses in the Hebrew text and the meaning is: I will finish what I'm going to finish.

From Hebrew to English: hayah, haw-yah: a primer. root, two exist, i.e. pray or pray-come, (always emphatic, and not a more copula or auxiliary): - beacon, altogether, be-(come, accomplished, committed, like) break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint , fall, follow, happen, have, cargo, pertain, quit (one) self, require, use.

From Hebrew via English to Norwegian: As it comes out of the translation into English, the main meaning of the word hayah to do, let happen, complete, complete. This is also clear from the 1116 times the word is used in the basic text. Then the meaning of the word of God follows; hayah, hayah = I'll finish, I'll finish. God's own name is the only one in the Bible that is a verb and a noun. As you can see the highlighted text in English, the word is always a gjerningsord, and never a connectives or an auxiliary verb. The word to be is an auxiliary verb. Therefore, God's own name does not contain to be, or I Am. The translation I Is based on the Greek phrase ego eimi = I am, but God's own name has never been Greek!

8. JOH 8:54-59: "Jesus answered, 'If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. But it is my Father that honors me, whom you call your God. You do not know him, but I know him. If I said I did not know him, I was a liar, as you are. But I know Him and keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see was my day. He got to experience it and rejoiced. '' You are not yet fifty years and have seen Abraham? 'Said the Jews. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham I am. 'Then they took up stones to throw at him. But Jesus hid from them and left the temple.
'Before Abraham I am.' (Actually it should say I have been, but it fits not with the philosophy of the importance of God's name.) This little phrase is used by many as proof that Christ himself says that he is God Almighty , (and who could then deny it) since he is alleged to use I'm about themselves. So is not the case. The Jesus here tells the Pharisees, is simply that he has been from long before Abraham was born. And again: The Greek language has no auxiliary verb, therefore it is correct to say: 'I've been to before Abraham was born.' And this agrees with the content of the text, Jesus here refers to is his pre-earthly existence in the heavenly God's only begotten Son. (Group Images monogenes = only begotten, the only, really: the only Son came forth from God).

9. 1JO 5:20. 'We know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us understanding so that we know the True. And we are in Him, the True, we are in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. '
Many people use this verse as the clearest evidence that God is Christ. They believe that in the last line shows the return of Jesus Christ, but it is not grammatically correct, for a personal pronoun does not return a com-pliment, in this case, 'in his son Jesus Christ.' He do not show to-back to the True last line, which is a compliment. No, 'he' in the last line shows back on the truth that is the last two words in the first line. By having pointed out the very clear fact provides the most up to use this Bible verse as proof that God is Christ and to use instead of others that are more ambiguous.
One question in this context: Why use a few obscure Bible verses as a basis for such an important part of your faith, when there are dozens, if not hundreds, of Bible verses that are crystal clear?

10. JOH 1:1-2. 'In the beginning was the Word. Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. '

To find the right meaning of these two verses we have in the Greek text. In addition, it is useful to have a minimum of knowledge of grammar.

Greek: an arche logos logos logos theos theos 2 houtos arche theos

JOH 1, transforming literary (translated word for word): Greek, transforming literary, Norwegian
arche logos logos logos theos theos
beginning words words words God God
(I) beginning (was) the Word. The word (was in) God, (and) the word (was) God

As you can see we need to insert both using verbs and prepositions to translate this into usable Norwegian. The Koine Greek language (ancient Greek) is not the indefinite article. And if we read verses 1 and 2 carefully, we see that 'he was with God is repeated twice in succession. From this I translate as follows: In the beginning was the Word, the Word was of God and the Word was a god. He was in the beginning with God. (It is unlikely that the author intended to repeat that 'he was with God' when the main contents of John's message was that Christ was of God.) Here I have in verse 1 used a 'god.' Can it be correct? We shall see.

In Acts 28:6 says, 'They expected him to swell up and immediately fall down dead. When they had waited a long time without seeing nothing unusual happen to him, they changed their minds and said that he was a god. 'I take the last two words in the last sentence in Greek: Lego theos. These two words are translated as: '- and said that he was a god,' Do you see that the indefinite article is missing in the basic text in both verses, both in John and Acts, but that the translation is taken in conjunction with Paul but omitted in the connection with Christ? The word 'god' must in all cases written with small letters. One thing is certainly for sure: It must either be omitted in both places, or be in both places! But since there is no indefinite article in Greek, but it does it in Norwegian, it must of course be included - in both places! Is not the indefinite article deliberately omitted in JOH 1:1 that we should believe that God is Christ, when we know that the Word is Christ? And it is not inserted in Acts 28:6 because it is absurd to claim that Paul was God?

For me personally, this represents a clear and deliberate falsification Bible!

11. JOH 1:18. The translation of this verse is a conscious attempt on biblical forgery from the Norwegian Bible Society's side.De have ovaratt as follows:
DNB, 9 Circulation 1995: 'No one has ever seen God, but the only begotten Son, who is God, and that is the bosom of the Father, he has shown us who he is.'
It is no wonder that it is a bit mixed for people when they read these translations, for normally intelligent people understand that God Almighty can not be in the bosom of the Father to this translation claims. This is because the short phrase that is God is added without it being in the basic text. Therefore, also represents this Bible verse as translated by The Norwegian Bible Society a clear and deliberate falsification Bible!
Straight text should be, Norwegian King James: 'Never has anyone seen God. The one-borne Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has explained to him. '
Wheat is really the difference? Yes, it is gross. The Norwegian Bible Society has falsely converted Christ from God's only begotten Son of God Almighty. The Norwegian King James is the Christ God's only begotten Son, so also is the basic text. And for those who still have doubts about this and want to know the truth, I take this verse also in Greek:
JOH 1:18, Strong's Hebrew / Greek: oudeis oudeis. horao theos popote popote popote monogenes monogenes huios it. . . kolpos. . Father. . exege-omai (dots indicate ordrytmen)
This is a difficult Bible verses to translate to good Norwegian from the Greek, but note that the word theos, which is Greek for God, only used once in this verse. The second time the word God, who is God, is used by DNB, is an addition.
So clever it can be done when a deliberately go in to lead people astray!

12. JOH 10:30. 'I and the Father are one.' This verse is often used in Whit-church and the Baptists as proof that God and Christ are one and the same. But remember, there is one, not one. (In English, this is not as clear, for one in English, are used in both cases. It is in the language structure, for they have no separate words for one.) Moreover, the meaning of this verse clearly explained by Jesus in JOH 5:21 p.m.: "I pray that they all may be one, like you, Father, are in me and I in you. How will they also be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me. 'Here is the King James even clearer. CHARTER writes in JOH 5:21 p.m.: "I pray that they all may be one, so you are one with me, and I'm with you. I pray that they also may be one with us, that the world may believe that you sent me. '

If this can be interpreted as God and Christ are the same, it also means that anyone who is rescued, the same as God Almighty. Then we return to God before Christ born!

13. Rev 22:12-16. 'Behold, I come quickly and My reward is with me, give to everyone according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and last, the beginning and end. Blessed are those who wash their clothes, so they get right to the tree of life and go through the gates into the city. But outside, she-baths and sorcerers and sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify to you about this in the churches. I am the root and offspring of David, the bright morning star. '

This is the section of the Greek text that is difficult for me because here I can not quite discern the Alpha and Omega refers to God Almighty or Jesus Christ. But I know that the messenger who speaks, speaks on behalf of both God and Christ, and that Alpha and Omega refers to God the Almighty-term. He is without beginning or end. But Christ also is the First and the Last two occasions: first when he was created / born as God's only begotten Son. He was both the first and the last thing God created / born-handedly, for after the birth of Christ, everything else created by him. Christ was also the first and the last when he was raised from the dead. God raised him up and then gave him the keys of death and the grave (Sheol in Norwegian translations, but always grave in English) so that all but Krustus itself, it is Christ who will raise up.

But even if this one presentation may be somewhat unclear to me, I can not let this one obscure verse override any of the hundreds of times the Bible is abundantly clear in this area.

Then I have to relate to Psalm 119:160: 'The sum of your word is truth, eternal, all your righteous judgments.'
14. Rev. 1:11, NKJ. 'It said:' I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, 'and:' What you see write in a book and send it to the seven churches of Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea. '

Rev 1:11. DNB has translated this verse as follows: 'And he said:' What you see, you should write a book and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Tiatyra, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea. '

As you can see the Alpha and Omega omitted here, and it is also the case in most other translations. It is my irreverent claim that this clearly is instituted to transform Christ to God the Almighty, for in this verse speaks messenger managed on behalf of Christ. It is not always clear who budbrin-age selector speak on behalf of the Revelation, for he speaks of and on behalf of God and of and on behalf of Christ.

As you can see the different Norwegian Bible translations are not always con-kvent in their translations.

In verse 10:13 p.m., who speaks on behalf of the messenger there, God or Christ?

15. Col. 1:15, Paul writes about Christ: 'He is an image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creatures.'

So clearly the Bible says that Christ is far from God the all powerful, but that he is part of God's creation, he is God's only, or only, son. (ROM 1:25) This is far from difficult to understand. Still, many choose to interpret away the true meaning of God's word.

Have you also selected to be dishonest with yourself by pursuing God and Christ to the liars?

torsdag 19. januar 2017

No. 1452: The Holy Spirit is neither a person or power, but part of God himself, and a common spirit between God the Father and Jesus Christ!

No. 1452:
The Holy Spirit is neither a person or power, but part of God himself, and a common spirit between God the Father and Jesus Christ!

Image of God the Father and Jesus who is not only one Spirit, yes, that too, but is a personality that surpasses us.
 Where the Spirit is a part of himself!

We humans also have a Spirit who both speak, feel, "flavors" and have the same characteristics as we have. But the Spirit of ours is not a person but a part of us. So it is with God, and God's Spirit, who is neither a person or power, but part of God Himself and a common spirit between God the Father and Jesus Christ!
The Holy Ghost, the nameless person!
Basic text says both the Greek and Hebrew spelling: holy spirit, note the spelling, lowercase and without personal pronouns front.
There is a Catholic adding that it would vote with Emperor Constantine's Trinitarian doctrine which he got through when the church was an institution and not a living church and the church of God.
The church should be the pillar and foundation. Constantine was an idolater all his life and used the church as a tool to retain their political power and to hold the Roman Empire together. (The Roman Catholic Church was at first more unified, first in year 1054 it was divided between east and west.) The Pope was under the emperor as the Roman Empire went under, but the papacy grew strongly and also had power over east Europe until 1054, mao Papacy survived the Roman Empire as a power factor. Yes, indeed up to the present time the Catholic Church is considered the largest and most influential Christian community.
From early it began a few ultra special Christians claiming Trinitarian doctrine, but they were very few souls. When the early Christians were mostly just Jews who believed in a trinity and which was won for the gospel got the same faith and doctrine. 1st and 2nd generation Christians had the same faith and doctrine, although 2nd generation Christians were largely Gentile. It was the 3rd and 4th generation Christians that these aberration mind asserted itself. It had Paul also predicted would happen that apostasy would come and new and unbiblical teaching would gain ground after his demise, including Trinity, church hierarchy, eternal hellfire, purgatory, prayers for the dead and saint worship mm
When it comes to female elders and pastors, it has actually been unknown up to the present time, but now also Christians who may be gay and lespisk come. One must absolutely return to the ancient pagan and Babylonian religions to find women priests, gay and lespisk who was involved in idolatry and the Trinity originates from the ancient pagan religions. How is apostasy ripe for judgment, when all apostate churches and congregations to go into the great harlot described in Revelation 17-18.
The Holy Spirit is not a person, it is found out by letting God's words speak for themselves. Not harder than that.
1) The Holy Spirit is not mentioned in the Book with their own name when he is the power of God!
2.) The Holy Spirit is without own will, when he takes from Christ and giving to us!
3.) The Holy Spirit is "Jesus". When the Holy Spirit is Spirit of Jesus Christ!
4.) The Holy Spirit is part of God the Father, then God the Father is Spirit!
5.) God shall you worship, but never the Holy Spirit when he is neither God nor a person.
6.) The Holy Spirit has always been with God the Father when he is Spirit.
7.) After the resurrection of Jesus Spirit of the Father to give it to us.
8) We will never meet the spirit in the sky as a person, but be filled with the Spirit where we need it here. (Then we'll all be Pentecostals in from the heart).
9.) The Protestants can not explain about the Holy Spirit, therefore, one must only believe even if you can not explain and understand.
10.) Catholics are slightly better, they may neither can explain this, but they call it a mystery that they can not understand but must accept.
11) We can experience the Spirit, he is a part of God and God is Spirit and it is through our Spirit and His Spirit we humans can and must communicate and have fellowship.
12.) Many people have the target vessel ran rejected the Trinity, but it has not been heeded.
This was short twelve points which I will briefly explain a bit about and around.
1) A person without their own name, I will not believe is a separate person, but the Trinity asserts the opposite just as Jesus only teachers do it.
2.) We read through the Scriptures that the Holy Spirit acts as a servant when he never has a will and agenda, but does everything for Christ and God the Father will. God's spirit is omnipresent and works where he will get to, but forcing himself never on and off. Ergo, the Spirit is God's power, wisdom and the way he, the Spirit of God communes with us.
Joh. 4:13 p.m., but when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for he shall not speak of himself, but what he hears, he will speak, and the things to come, he will tell you. 14 He shall glorify me; for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he shall take of mine and declare unto you.
Everyone has a spirit, but we humans can not send our spirit away, but it may Jesus and the Father when they are unlimited in time, space and place. Spirit will is not its own, it is Jesus and the Father. God's holy spirit is like a servant who is sent by God and Jesus' ministry. Therefore, not the Holy Spirit is worshiped, but the Father and the Son. We should not ask or command in the Holy Spirit, but only in the name of Jesus.
We get the Spirit when we are obedient, Spirit pulls away when we are disobedient. It's like when we follow traffic rules, it goes us well when we follow traffic rules and poor when we do not follow them.
We believe that the Spirit has a will and own agenda when we read in 1 Corinthians. 12 on gifts. But we must understand it so that the Spirit knows the unseen in humans and therefore he shares out the gifts that best suits us, not those we think we necessarily need and even always want to have. We can not build a doctrine on one scripture, but on what scripture says total about one thing, otherwise we come into the same errors as the Trinity and Jesus Only doctrine is built on!
3.) We read in the Great Commission in the Norwegian Bible is mistranslated about baptism, following. Matt. 28 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. But we read that the early Christians baptized people always to Jesus Christ. Spirit is linked to Christ in the New Covenant as He in the Old Covenant was related to God the Father. We must also remember that the Spirit is in the whole Bible mentioned that the Spirit of God and in the New Covenant reveals that he is Spirit of Jesus Christ. The basic text is the following: Matt. 28 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the character of God. It's the same as Paul says in Colossians. 2. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Who are all linked to? Jesus, ergo baptized the first Christians that Jesus taught and said.
Here are the scriptures that shows in what name the first Christians baptized:
Ap.gj.2.38. Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, each one of you, that ye may receive forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the Holy Ghost.
Ap.gj.10. 48.Så he commanded that they should be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days.
Ap.gj.19.5. After hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord.
4.) God is spirit, and God gives us of his Spirit. Ergo, the Spirit is part of the Father himself!
Taking a bucket of sea, so it's as much again in the ocean, the ocean contains far beyond what we can understand with our intellect, likewise it is with God and His spirit, it is infinite. Purely mathematical world has the sea a constraint, while God has no limit.
5.) We read through the Scriptures that one should worship God the Father and of the new covenant, we find that Jesus also worshiped after his resurrection when he has a name which is above every name because of the work of redemption. It is a fact that the worship of the holy spirit was first introduced just after the Synod of Sardica, 343 ADOtherwise discussed Catholics whom to take up the Trinity if they should take Mary or the Holy Spirit. The problem was that they could not accept a woman in the Trinity, so the choice fell on the Holy Spirit. Then came the Holy Ghost from being God's Holy Spirit to be a separate person in the Godhead. Maria was later taken up in the deity of the 1950s.For Catholics it is 4 persons in the Godhead when Mary also born without sin and have eternal life in him just like Jesus. It is an errant learn that we should not go more into here right now.
Otherwise was Pelle Karlsson whoever introduced the worship of the holy spirit and prayer to the spirit when he visited Hedmarktoppen 70s among Pentecostals. Charismatics are then hung on. Before that it was totally unknown area there to pray or worship the Holy Spirit among Protestants. It was seen as Catholic delusion, but now they are united on this as they believe in the same unscriptural doctrine of the Trinity which leads into the occult and into demonic activity!
6.) God is Spirit, and on that basis it is true to say that the Spirit has always been with the Father as a part of himself.
Joh. e. 4 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
For it is bluntly written in John 4 <24 that "God is Spirit" and just saw that: "Lord, it is the Spirit and where the Spirit Is, there is freedom" cf. 2 Corinthians 3:17,
This means that the Spirit is associated with God as part of the Eternal One's overall personality beside the person of God which bears the name Father and Son.
Similarly, one can say that God is Love, God is Consciousness, God is Peace, God is Wisdom and God is Truth.
God "Is" thus their qualities and character .. and "have" those not in the same way as his creatures.
7.) Ap. cur. 2. 33 Therefore having been exalted to the right hand and by His Father has received the Holy Spirit of promise, He has poured forth this, which ye see and hear.
After Jesus had risen, he was reinserted in the condition he had before he became a man, albeit not even sweeter!
8.) In heaven we will never meet the spirit, but God will be all in all. In what way? By that we are more filled with the Spirit than ever, be you sure, Hallelujah!
1 Cor. 15. 28 but when everything is subject to him, then shall the Son himself subjugate himself to him who put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
We read that the Spirit came upon Jesus in a dove and at Pentecost as tongues of fire upon the disciples. Ergo claims Trinity the Spirit is a person. This has nothing to do with a person to do, but a sign of the outsiders that God is afoot in a supernatural way and sanction it with a character that was there and then. Eg those experiencing baptism of the Spirit experience no tongues of fire as a rule, but it was the one time of making to know that now was the Spirit come all. And when the Spirit came upon Jesus, was the first and last time that the Son of God came down to earth to live a faultless life in our place when he met the legal requirements and bid on our behalf and died a death in our place.
1 Cor. 14. 22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers; the prophesy is not for unbelievers but for believers.
Joh. e. 12 28 Father, glorify your name! Then a voice came from heaven: I have both glorified it and will glorify it. 29 The people who stood by and heard it, said that it had thundered; others said, An angel has spoken to him. 30 Jesus answered and said: Not for my sake came this voice, but for your sake.
We see that God reveals himself sometimes as a sign to do to know that is happening now is something quite extraordinarily.
9.) Protestants are generally even more extreme than Catholics when it comes to doctrine. Their views on the Trinity swarm risk and occult!
10.) Catholics who introduced the Trinity has also held on to some of the original vision of the Godhead when they learn that the Holy Spirit is a bond of love between Father and Son, but they can not explain this with the Trinity therefore they make it a mystery as they do with most of what they can not explain that the Eucharist etc.
11.) We humans are different from animals, plants etc. when we are spiritual beings and that God has a Spirit that God has therefore we can communicate, share social and community on a completely different level than what God can with any other of his creatures.
2 Cor. 13. 12. "The Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the Holy Spirit be with you all."
Psalm 8 6 thou hast made him a little lower than God, and with glory and honor Thou didst crown him. 7 You made him ruler over the works of thy hands, all in subjection under his feet, 8 sheep and oxen, all together, yes also beasts of the field, 9 fowls and fishes of the sea, all that travel paths of the seas. 10 O Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth!
Filip. 2. Is it therefore any consolation in Christ, if any consolation of love, and that which the Spirit fellowship, if any tenderness and compassion,
12.) There are many over the centuries who have rejected the Trinity, but with the totalitarianism that in many ways Christianity is, so is not always easy to stand for truth and are easily seen as abnormal.
Isaac Newton was one of them and was aware that God is the source of all truth, and in accordance with the deep reverence he had for its creator, it seems that he spent more time searching the true God than to explore scientific truths. A survey of all that Newton wrote, shows that of the approximately 3.6 million words were only 1 million spent on scientific topics, while around 1.4 million was spent on religious topics.
In his writings dealt Newton himself much with the Trinity doctrine. One of his most important contributions to Bible investigation at the time was his work AN. historical account
The smaller part of this thesis was consecrated 1 Tim 3: 16 which reads (according to the King James Version): And indisputably great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in world, received up into glory.
Newton showed how it had been made a small change in the Greek text. The word God has gone out and the sentence came to read: God was manifest in the flesh. He pointed out that they had no knowledge of such a change. Because the text says Christ manifested in flesh, who is Christ, the anointed Messiah.
Why did not announce Newton this while he was alive. That time may explain this. Those who wrote against the Trinity was still persecuted in England. Those who made it could be punished by losing their work or imprisonment. A publication that attacks the Trinity was seized and burned by order of the house. A 18 year old student who was accused of denying the Trinity was hanged in Scotland. This happened in the 1600s.
When Newton investigated a doctrine, pretended he always Bible be touchstones. Newton made this clear when he discussed the church's confessions: It does not require us to accept them because of the church the meetings authority. Although councils have failed and may err in matters of faith and that they have adopted as necessary for salvation is of no force or authority if it can be proven that it is taken from the Bible.
As another argument to throw the Trinity said Newton: the doctrine that the Son is consubstantial with the Father is incomprehensible. It was not understood at the Council of Nicaea and it's not been understood since.
Newton found therefore that he based on the biblical testimony, logic and the authentic teachings as taught in the early Christian era, he could not accept the Trinity. He firmly believed in Jehovah God as the supreme overlord and recognized Jesus Christ position by either impairing him as the son of God or to exalt him to the position his father meant.
It is clearly the conclusion Newton here is going and it is shown always clear from his writings how he looked at the relationship between the Father and the Son. Elsewhere he says, therefore, that prayers should be directed to God in the Lamb's name, but not to the Lamb of God.
Leo Tolstoy was so frustrated treenighetsdogmets lack of rationality, he rejected it. That should all other minded people also do, neither the words trinity, triad or anything that indicates that God is three or one in three or three in one account in Scripture, but that God is one. Who is the only true God, which the scholars and better knowledge of contention about. But it's not that hard when God's Word gives a total and very simple answer to this, especially in the New Testament. There is only one God the Father, no one else, not even his son is the Father of Jesus has a beginning which is not God the Father has. Without Father nothing had been, not even the Son Jesus Christ, therefore, Jesus said it time and again that the Father is greater than me, and not the opposite!
This is just a short little excerpt showing that the whole Trinity and Jesus only doctrine is a worm works and which has its origin not in the word of God but in pagan religions and church meetings and it's been a common Christian faith, when I think of the Trinity . But the truth is that training theory is that Jesus only doctrine is, demons learning that comes from Satan himself who wanted to be God Father. Discard Trinity and all other teacher who does not agree with the Scriptures, it is my recommendation and wish you dear friend. Act now before it is too late, and support up to those who stand before the Lord and teach in truth the word of God.
Newton believed that I believe God is everywhere - he represents the space and the time we exist in.
Seems a little silly when some claim that the Holy Spirit is a mystery, and often it is a mystery, but one must nevertheless be allowed to debate and examine what Scripture says and former ministers claimed and what the early Christians practiced and preached ang . this mystery. Why tolerate not to hear others' research and why can not they even also examine carefully about this and other mysteries of the Bible but just dismiss that? When they do not know themselves, then they ought to shut his mouth again and let others know anything more be allowed to communicate God's truth! Otherwise, this God really so difficult had we not had a 1700 years long obfuscation and distortion of the truth when it comes to such an important and simple question that goes in God and the Godhead!
The first Christians debated hotly and thoroughly ang. Christians question and Bible teachings and why should we not do it today, perhaps it is even more important today when the writing has been so botched and many Bible verses have been so mistranslated that it is difficult to understand what really is the meaning of the word. It's scary and it's very important to be aware of this.
I have in my time in Pentecostalism example. never heard preaching why the early Christians baptized in the name of Jesus and why we should not follow this, and ang. Trinity is never recorded passages that speak against this doctrine, just, etc. etc..
5. Genesis 6 4 Hear, O Israel! Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Correctly translated is; Hear O Israel, Jehovah is their God and he is a unit.
Who is this unit? Father and Son and they have a common spirit as in the original text is not printed with the personal pronoun in front, but the following; holy spirit!
With great consternation one must see what misty mystery people have made to God. Trinity does not come directly from the Bible. Although Luther had to admit it. Where did this teaching come from? It is certainly no secret. In the book "Who's Who in Church history" we read in the church in Alexandria, Egypt, and through the Alexandrian Church Fathers were a mix of Hellenistic philosophy and Christianity as they took into both Plato and Aristotle teaching. Both lived in pre-Christian times.
The history of this is well documented. Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullian is considered treenighetslærens father and the first, if God used the Latin word Trinitas. He lived from 160 to 230. But he also believed that Jesus was the Father and that there was a time when the universe creates stood alone and so since had a son. This trinity father would today be considered a heretic by the Trinity. None of the apostles knew of the Trinity. It came therefore more than a hundred years after they were gone. Trinity was contradicted by four consecutive bishops of Rome, and the strange is that all these belong to the the Catholic Church calls "the papal succession." It is Eleutherus, Victor, Zephyrinus and Calixtus. Tertullian himself said that most believers in his time were shocked by his talk about three in one. Ref. "AntiNicene Church Fathers" 3.bind: "The winds constantly this against us that we preach two or three gods, while they consider themselves to be those who worship one God." This was 150 years after Paul, and still believed the majority of the believers of the Jewish understanding of God and thus rejected the Trinity and attacks Tertullian.
And that's because this doctrine does not come from God's Word, but from Greek philosophy and mysticism. It is then of their own advocates called a mystery you can not understand. Through four councils, Nicaea in 325, Constantinople in 381, Ephesus in 431 and Chalcedon in 451 tried churchmen to find out who Jesus really is. And from these came the Trinitarian creed that is handed to us. The entire profession is a theological, pagan, philosophical and grammatical stew. But this was associated with a curse, one Anatema clause; "Whoever wants to be saved must thus think of the Trinity." Soon after began the executions of those who did not think so. Which the Catholic Church and other institutions lately churches and congregations have always done. Today there are no executions, but a strict boycott and censorship line against those who get obvious that God is not three but one. And this one God has a son who has a Spirit, described in Scripture as a Spirit that is sacred. Therefore it says about the Holy Spirit following the basic text; holy spirit. Why not stick to the script and let all fables, Synod doctrine and everything else fare la hen and go? It's just wonderful and delightful if you ask me!
After studying this, I have bl. A determined by many Adventists thought right about this at the beginning of Advent movement.
Here's something from net: One of many quotes from a reputed adventistpioner may be one explanation for why many of today's Adventist now accept dogma of the Trinity:
"Trinitarian advocates big mistake when they argue this theme is: They see no for shells on it to deny the Trinity and denying the divinity of Christ ... and they take every expression referring to Christ's pre-existence as a confirmation of the Trinity. Scripture gives a lot of documentation on Christ's pre-existence and His divinity, but is completely silent as regards the Trinity ".
JH Waggoner, Review and Herald, November 10, 1863. During the prayer to God and enlightened by His Spirit, the first Adventists led to rediscover a number of important Biblical truths God's people had to accept in order to preserve the end-time violent religious seduction and apostasy. These messages had proclaimed that the Reformation back to the Scripture might be concluded. This is the message that is as relevant for both Christianity as the unchurched. The same depth Bible studies, fervent prayers and love for God's revelation, which led pioneer founders to discover Bible truths Reformation had overlooked, led them also to reject the Trinity dogma, which they did not find any biblical evidence. None of today's adventistteologer know anything these pioneering had no knowledge of, it is rather the opposite. Adventistpioneren EG White puts it tidy and fine in one of his many statements about the relationship of Christ to His Father. "The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty." (Ms. 150, SDA Bible Commentary Vol. 5, p. 1129. (Translated: "Man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty.")
Pioneers accepted unproblematic scriptural teaching that Jesus, the Son of God both were and are as divine as his Father, that he was the Son of God from all eternity and that he be worshiped. They looked at him as Savior from sin, that he was equal with the Father and therefore may carry the title of God, since the Father's name is in him and that he is exalted and given all authority in heaven and on earth, and that he is this creator of the world, without even being created.
They considered neither God and the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit, just an impersonal and neutral force. Meanwhile, the words sparklingly clear that trinity dogma represented unbiblical teachings and was an artificial philosophical explanation that contradicted a number of biblical statements. Present judgment of some in Adventist leader layers also in Norway, however, is that pioneer founders were wrong as regards its rejection of the dogma of the Trinity. This criticism frames known adventistpionerer as James White, Joseph Bates, John N. Andrews, JN Loughborough, Uriah Smith, JH Waggoner, SN Haskell. Roswell F. Cottrell, John G. Matteson, Alonzo T. Jones, Ellet J. Waggoner, WW Prescott, James E. White, William C. White, MC Wilcox and numerous other Advent movement's early leaders and pastors.
The book "On Tidehverv" published in another edition of Adventist in Norway as late as 1960, written by Adventist TS Valen, contains a solid review of Adventist then learn. The book shows naturally a clear faith in Christ's pre-existence and deity, but does of course no indication that the author believed in or were forced to believe in the dogma of the Trinity. This doctrine was in fact not part of our society's belief system at the time. We do not rule out that Pastor TSValens stance also applies to a number of Norwegian Adventist preaching after World War II. Due talked learn amendment would probably none of them have been allowed to stand on a adventisttalerstol today.
The following well-publicized statement from adventistprofessor George Knight may be an example of mentioned consequence of this theological turnaround. Pastor Knight teaches at Adventist theology seminar at Andrews University. The quotation is taken from the magazine "Ministry" which is Adventist Official Journal of Adventist. This claim is not only an individual random interpretation of this theological change as effect, but reflects an attitude and an action decision which is now filtered down to all administrative levels of the Adventist Church.
Professor George Knights observation: "Most of Seventh-day Adventism's founders would not have been able to become members of our church today if they had to accept our denominations basic beliefs. Especially would most could agree Faith point no. 2, which deals with the Trinity dogma. " Ministry, October 1993, p. 10.
We note that some Norwegian adventistledere goes far more authoritarian approach to the topic, by forbidding people to be baptized, be members and be able to stand on our pulpits if they do not accept this new belief change, even if people accept and live by all the Biblical truths Adventist otherwise account for.
In order to push this new doctrine into the Adventist faith, some have managed to find a few statements from pioneer Ellen G. White, who with strong motivation and liberal orientation, can be interpreted to approach one of treenighetsdogmets reflections. These quotes have been with us all the time, without being considered to open the door to this doctrine, and do it then either. One must actually "run downhill" through both the Bible and EG White writings, to avoid documentation makes trinity dogma unacceptable to Adventists.
Alpha and Omega Apostasy.
In 1904 writes EG White there obviously from God for her that before Jesus comes again, it will take place an eerie apostasy among Adventists. What she calls "deadly false doctrines" (eng: "deadly heresies"), would introduced and accepted. She saw that people would stand in our pulpits (read: permitted and approved to stand there, since no release to the Adventist pulpits before their teachings approved by management), with Satan's false preaching torch in his hand, and that the books would be written among us, as advocated unbiblical teachings. She called this end-time apostasy for "Omega apostasy", and pointed out that in case and content were linked to a theological apostasy which took place on her own time, called "Alfa-apostasy" and that had to do with a false learn about the deity published in the book "the Living Temple" written by Adventist dr. John Harvey Kellogg.
Get Adventists have obviously studied the issue related to dr. Kelloggs deity learn, and therefore has not seen his pantheistic ideas are anchored in his published confession that he had begun to believe in the dogma of the Trinity. The deity theology Dr. Kellogg advocated, were naturally fiercely opposed by EG White, and she got from God knowing that a similar error would recur in the future everything mentioned "Omega apostasy" and that it would do tremendous damage our denomination. She writes that she trembled in despair when this was shown her. We are a few hundred Adventists also in our country, and probably tens of thousands worldwide who feel the same way, since we unfortunately have to realize that this anticipated and prophesied apostasy no longer belongs to the future.
To provide historical background to the topic, we have chosen to include in this article some quotes from said EGW. New light can never compromise with former God-given biblical truths. Trinitarian dogma does just that.
Some statements from the pioneer EG White.
"Satan is working with men in senior positions to remove the basis for our faith. Brothers! Should we allow this to happen? "Manuscript 125, 1903, Review and Herald, vol 4, p 578.
"Let Pioneers Identify Truth. When the power of God testifies what is truth, then this truth forever remain as truth. No later assumptions, which opposes the light God has given, must be accepted. Some will come forward with interpretations of Scripture which they consider to be the truth, but who is not, "(Preach the Word, p. 5, written in 1905, also reproduced in Counsels two Writers and Editors, s.31-32 .)
"The main points of our faith that we currently hold on, was built on rocky terrain. Point after point was clearly identified and all the brothers agreed. Our members were united in the truth. There were some who came with strange doctrines, but we were never afraid to meet and contradict them. Our experience was a wonderful way confirmed by the revelation of God's Spirit. "(EGW Manuscript Releases Vol. 3, pp. 413 - written in 1903.)
"As a nation we must stand firm on the platform of eternal truths that have resisted all tests and samples. We must hold fast to the sure pillars of our faith. Truth principles that God has revealed to us are our only firm foundation. These truths have made us the people we are and the elapsed time has not diminished the message value. "(EGW Special Testimonies, Series B, no. 2 pp. 51, written in 1904, also reproduced in Counsels two Writers and Editors, p. 52)
"Not a single truth line that has made Seventh-Day Adventists to what they are, must be weakened. We have received truth landmarks, experiences and responsibilities and we must stand firm in protecting our principles ... "(EG White, Testimonies for the Church, volume 6, p. 17, written in 1911.)
"God has given me light regarding our magazines ... He has said that the dead are to speak. How can it happen? By their works shall follow them. We must repeat pion's words in our work, who knew what it cost to search for hidden truths and that efforts to lay the foundation for our faith. They moved forward step by step under the guidance of God's Spirit. One by one, these pioneer founders laid to rest. The message was given to me: Let what these men have written be reproduced ... Let the truths that are our foundation to be kept alive for our people. "
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