torsdag 31. mars 2016

No. 1163: Manglerud police allows Norway's two worst-line roll sake even my employer, only they get taken me!

No. 1163:
Manglerud police allows Norway's two worst-line roll sake even my employer, only they get taken me!

Photo of the so-called hate groups on Manglerud allowing the largest distribution network roll to operate just as they would on the web as long as they get taken me.

From v. Inspector Monica Lille Bakken, police officers Stian Barmo and Lena Fjalestad and police attorney Oda Karterud.


When the target sanctified means it may be many strange manifestations. As it is for Manglerud Polti with the so-called hate groups there, then everything is permitted if it is against a family member Jan Kåre Christensen.
But come the other way, so everything is a crime, no matter!

Dag Paulsen, head of the so-called hate groups think that I'll just left as deserved. Do not longer words to say at what level this Polti is on. It must be "world's worst"?

They put out repeatedly both on the false Smyrna blog, Searchlight and with Jan Aage Torp my address, job, company, kids, yes, everything. + Much, much more!
And that I have two bonus children somewhere.

They write about me as Unibuss driver, and when they can put this out. So frames they do not really me, but my employer. When a search for Unibuss, so get one up these articles. Where I am featured on the false Smyrna blog as a bus driver and Unibuss driver many, many times. Plus the same pattern is both Searchlight and in Jan Aage Torp their writings.
Here are some examples:
https://smyrnamenighet.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/sporsmal-fra-mange-er-jan-kare-christensen-mentalt-tilbakestaende/
Question of many: Is Jan Kåre Christensen mentally retarded?
May 30, 2015May 30, 2015 Smyrna Church in Oslo
We've got eight emails with exactly this question. Let me answer these eight people and others who wonder just this but have not asked us.
Is our very beloved pastor Jan Kåre Christensen Mentally retarded person?
He is reasonably good in practical matters like driving a bus and no one has complained about him there. He's actually a good bus driver, much popular among their Muslim and Catholic colleagues.
But intellectually he is what one might call for mentally retarded. He understands around 50 words. The rest of the words he uses in his blog and in his many posts in Searchlight blog is a pure guessing game on his part.
His understanding of the concepts of morality and ethics are also diffuse and unclear. He is a pastor because he has memorized Bible verses without fully understanding them. He understanding of the Bible is also diffuse and he survives by copying and stealing quotes and material from those who understand the Bible.
In a normal conversation he comes somewhat short when he did not quite know what he's talking about. We let him talk every Sunday and otherwise, we are keeping something away from him when his contribution to any conversation or discussion is, at best, very limited.
That he is mentally retarded is there no doubt. But it is just as innocent and mentally retarded who are God sent servants to us humans. It is these simpletons without any mention worthy under the top cover that best conveys the word of God. If you use a microphone, expect not that the microphone also works as a dishwasher and an oven. That's how Jan Kåre Christensen. A microphone without any other benefit to God.
Arne Breen Smyrna Church

https://smyrnamenighet.wordpress.com/2016/02/14/unibuss-sjaforen-jan-kare-christensen-viser-sine-matematiske-ferdigheter/

Unibuss driver Jan Kåre Christensen shows their math skills
On February 14, 2016February 15, 2016 Smyrna Church in Oslo
The requirements to become a bus driver in Unibuss is apparently not particularly high. One of the requirements is that you possess mathematical skills below kindergarten level. It is at that level one finds the bus driver Jan Kåre Christensen.

As this clip from his blog show, his math skills very deficient.
He believes that it is three years since we found ourselves in June 2014. Those of us who have considerable more math skills than the requirements to become a bus driver in Unibuss, know that 2014 + 3 = 2017. Those of us who even know what time and month this is, also knows that we presently writing on 14 February 2016. Something that is considerably fewer days than June 5, 2017. About 500 days, I estimate it.
If there are some who think that this is a single miss from Jan Kåre Christensen's side must unfortunately think again. He has for many months and countless blog posts written that there are more than three years since we enjoyed ourselves in June 2014.
What do we call a man in 50 years of such a mathematical level? Idiot and the measures are words that can be used. And then the idiot and the measures in medical and health-related significance.
It is therefore no wonder that the father of five Jan Kåre Christensen believes he only has three children. He can not count to five and therefore it becomes to keep track of so many children all too difficult for him. On the whole there is much that is difficult in Jan Kåre Christensen's world. That's why we have so much sympathy for those affected by he and his idiocy. Eg his children.
So we want Unibuss luck with a workforce that obviously, if Jan Kåre representative of them, has the lowest competence in Oslo and Norway in general. And this is a good enough reason not to use their services.

Arne Ulf Breen Smyrna Church

https://smyrnamenighet.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/unibuss-sjafor-jan-kare-christensen-mine-sjefer-og-passasjerer-i-unibuss-er-horebukker-og-toyter/

Unibuss driver Jan Kåre Christensen: My bosses and passengers Unibuss is whore goats and hussy

On March 28, 2016March 28, 2016 Smyrna Church in Oslo
We have listed us that Jan Kåre Christensen Krokstiveien 2c has long wanted to become a martyr for their opinions.
He is undoubtedly on the way to this when he said in a now deleted blog post (which we have a copy of) have implicitly asserted that his bosses and colleagues in Unibuss is hussy (= whores) and whore goats. This is because some of them are divorced and gjengiftede.
In the same blog post, he also claimed that many of Unibuss their passengers are hussy / whores and whore goats. Which they certainly do not like to hear from a bus driver in the company.
We would assume that such a disrespectful statement will not awaken joy of employees and customers in Unibuss. It's certainly not fun to be referred to as whores and whore bows of a person who literally have their life in their hands.
Of course we are not bus when it can use buses that transport is contrary to the Bible.

Arne Ulf Breen Smyrna Church
(End of quote).

Everything is a samensurium, there really only one who profits from this. It is Jan Aage Torp who have managed to make it look like I'm a criminal, but he is not. Talk about living in a delusion.

This I wrote to the police in your mailbox:

Police on Manglerud!

Here I am again and again harassed on their mail by two people that I have reviewed for this. This is Norway's worst and ugliest web roll!

These are just some of what I have received the past month.
I will not answer these emails, as these are people who want me and my family just evil.

I think that you do not at their job as long as they are allowed to continue to harass me and my family.

They write shit about me and my family today.
They make contact with my son, and says he is gay etc.
They write the same way about him online.
They contact employers ours, and continue in the infinite being stalkers!

They give me diagnoses that are completely beyond.
They probably have soon written 20,000 hate speech against me and my famille the last three years?

Rekka is endless!

They have defended January Aage Torp (which I think is behind all this misery and these stalkers).

In other words, I and my famille is fair game!

Is sure of one thing, you must be the world's worst police who are completely in the dark side. Did not think it was possible with such a bad and evil police!

But okay, Dag Paulsen stood in court to lied that we had sent documentation on some of what we have been subjected to.

It was just that we had given up police and not written in a while.

This will be the last two emails from me. For you do not say anything to my and my family's benefit. Only criminals as Kjell Andersen engaged Searchlight. January Aage Torp who click through to the Heavenly blog and provoked. I have never ever been in contact with some of these people, just possibly responded to their inquiries ultimately!
But I will give you take, inconceivable!

Make no impression on you?

Debate sent to, inter alia, VG!
Display Photo of the Heavenly blog as Jan Aage Torp hate everywhere in this world. It was the reason he came with his fictional review, as it was on this blog he was first stripped and exposed. Now he is admittedly exposed and stripped of VGTV, his son Anders and many others!



Wrote this, and it is sent, inter alia, VG.

Police in Norway may be on the criminal side, as we see with Christensen / Torp matter !?

I have just written on his blog by and large at about Jan Aage Torp.

A blog that one must choose to seek. But here I labeled a stalker and the stalker. Here the police must lie in order to find a § to get me indicted and convicted.

We read in the Bible: Rom. 13. 1. every soul be subject unto the higher powers! for there is no authority except from God, but those that are, are ordained by God, 2 so that he who puts himself against the authority, against God's arrangement contrary; but they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

The authorities also have a responsibility. That is not to oppress and punish evil. But in my case they do the exact opposite in my estimation.

When VGTV Anders Torp (both VGTV and in his book "Jesus soldier") and others describe in January Aage Torp, so this becomes a Top Searches. When I have said exactly the same, but in a milder form, it is a criminal!

Taking with backdrop, that I've got against me over 10,000 hate speech by Jan Aage Torp and his supporters.

This will be completely proven omitted by police at Manglerud in Oslo who is standing with Jan Aage Torp Reviewed me when I preached against his low morale after what God's Word teaches. He as a Pastor and Shepherd should not be re-married.

While all of you I have written and spoken, as a response to this. Then what I write, even if it is on their blog, punishable!

In other words, it adds up to police a justismord! That's how I and many with me watching it. What I've seen in VGTV and Jan Aage Torp's son Anders Torp is like an echo of what I have said and written, but should be punished for this. The whole issue around me is incomprehensible in light of that we do not live in North Korea, but in Norway.

We meet in court, where the judge and the lay judges for my and my defender judgment did a bad job (Brynjar Meling is my defense).

The case has been appealed to the Court of Appeal Borgating.

For more, see my blog: http://blog.janchristensen.net/

Jan Kåre Christensen
(End of quote).

What is certain in this case is that it is exclusively criminal here. Then there's me. I have written only in his own blog and website. And what I've written, purely verbally is like candy for what sluggers Jan Aage Torp has written about me. He called me the ugliest and worst things. And take with what he son has given his own Father, so surpasses me a hundred times.

Only those nefarious sites Searchlight and the false Smyrna blog, and hate group at Manglerud supporting January Aage Torp!

Website Searchlight with Kjell Andersen writes constant crap about me, and anyone writing on this disgusting site also writes shit, false and keeps completely with Jan Aage Torp.
I take again, and prints the same. So I get thousands of diagnoses and sake!
Should anyone defend me in Searchlight, so within 1 hour so is an out with name, address, phone number and all the information they can find about you!

The whole site is a crime and should really be warned against! Actually prosecuted together with Torp and the false Smyrna blog.

Do not expect you are doing something, but now at least documentation sent. And it is there on the web up against 20,000 hatmeldigner welcomed me and my family that I have responded. As you overlook total!

Jan Kåre Christensen
(End of quote).

In other words, the police team up with those who are criminals.

It is strange also this with Anders Torp, here are some of mail exchanges I have had with different:

Me:
Gain the book "Jesus Soldier" written about Anders Torp, son of Jan Aage Torp. I said exactly the same thing but in a milder form. Anders is hailed for its boldness! Meg police will punish for the same utterances! This is of Manglerud police nothing but harassment and Christianity persecution.
But God is good, yes infinitely greater than all our problems and challenges.
This goes to victory!

Regards Jan Kåre and Berit; -): - D

Andres:
Anders is hailed for he perceived as a critic of Christian values. While preaching the word of God and that no one likes. It goes to victory no matter how they treat us.

Part wimp of Christianity persecution. What they can not tolerate is that people point out that the emperor has no clothes on. A form of gagging. Bøffemennesker to get hold of as they want. Our task is to succumb and curtsy and kiss her shoes theirs.

Me:
Yes. However, it is certain that here it smelt a rat as I see today. Got this message of a brother; Anders is hailed for he perceived as a critic of Christian values. While preaching the word of God and that no one likes. It goes to victory no matter how they treat us.

Others:
Exactly. The rules vary depending on who is talking. Son's book comes as ordered. Torp is stripped back without credibility. The only one who is unable to understand it himself. It only confirms that you have set the correct diagnosis.

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1162-debate-sent-to-inter-alia-vg.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1161-only-those-nefarious-sites.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1142-unexpectedly-however-more.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1141-police-jurist-day-paulsen-last.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1140-says-apostle-and-pastor-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1132-police-on-manglerud-and-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1128-if-verdict-of-district-court.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1127-verbal-abuse-ridicule-and.html

onsdag 30. mars 2016

No. 1162: Debate sent to, inter alia, VG!

No. 1162:
Debate sent to, inter alia, VG!

Display Photo of the Heavenly blog as Jan Aage Torp hate everywhere in this world. It was the reason he came with his fictional review, as it was on this blog he was first stripped and exposed. Now he is admittedly exposed and stripped of VGTV, his son Anders and many others.

And he is not even aware of it, talk about being in a form of psychosis, that he can not or will see that his days as pastor and preacher is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



Wrote this, and it is sent, inter alia, VG.

Police in Norway may be on the criminal side, as we see with Christensen / Torp matter !?

I have just written on his blog by and large at about Jan Aage Torp.
A blog that one must choose to seek. But here I labeled a stalker and the stalker. Here the police must lie in order to find a § to get me indicted and convicted.

We read in the Bible: Rom. 13. 1. every soul be subject unto the higher powers! for there is no authority except from God, but those that are, are ordained by God, 2 so that he who puts himself against the authority, against God's arrangement contrary; but they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

The authorities also have a responsibility. That is not to oppress and punish evil. But in my case they do the exact opposite in my estimation.
When VGTV Anders Torp (both VGTV and in his book "Jesus soldier") and others describe in Jan Aage Torp, so this becomes a Top Searches. When I have said exactly the same, but in a milder form, it is a criminal!
Taking with backdrop, that I've got against me over 10,000 hate speech by Jan Aage Torp and his supporters.
This will be completely proven omitted by police at Manglerud in Oslo who is standing with Jan Aage Torp Reviewed me when I preached against his low morale after what God's Word teaches. He as a Pastor and Shepherd should not be re-married.
While all of you I have written and spoken, as a response to this. Then what I write, even if it is on their blog, punishable!

In other words, it adds up to police a justismord! That's how I and many with me watching it. What I've seen in VGTV and Jan Aage Torp's son Anders Torp is like an echo of what I have said and written, but should be punished for this. The whole issue around me is incomprehensible in light of that we do not live in North Korea, but in Norway.

We meet in court, where the judge and the lay judges for my and my defender judgment did a bad job (Brynjar Meling is my defense).
The case has been appealed to the Court of Appeal Borgating.
For more, see my blog: http://blog.janchristensen.net/

Jan Kåre Christensen
(End of quote).

Final Comment:

What is certain in this case is that it is exclusively criminal here. Then there's me. I have written only in his own blog and website. And what I've written, purely verbally is like candy for what sluggers Jan Aage Torp has written about me. He called me the ugliest and worst things. And take with what he son has given his own Father, so surpasses me a hundred times. In other words, family Torp are the two major sluggerne here.

But police Manglerud want me punished and possibly jail ?!

Yes, here live Polti and Jan Aage Torp total different world than what is "normal".

Taking something that was in the newspaper Our Country as not least the police should have gone to the heart (rendering further down). Soon it becomes punishable only to say that one believes in the Bible and that God lives and exists. And he sent his son to earth to die for our sins etc.

Lawyer Brynjar Meling says it bluntly, that either I become 100% exonerated now. But surely the Court of Appeal when the things that might create problems for a 100% acquittal, they know we possibly weed out. And that the things that the police prosecutor had to come by, all this we will document does not match at all!

This says Media law Attorney Jon Wessel-Aas when he asked in Our Country as essentially absolves me 100%. Which also will certainly happen on Friday the 29th of January when I get the verdict. Everything else will be and be a big surprise than acquittal 100%.

But it should not be there, then it becomes an appeal to the Court of Appeal. And if we lose there, then it becomes the Supreme Court. And on to Strasbourg, which I do not think we will ever need. But give me? Never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The criminal here is Jan Aage Torp, we receive come back to.

This says Media law Attorney Jon Wessel-Aas in Our Country:

Media law Attorney Jon Wessel-Aas react to the violation of Penal Code Section 390A "for the troublesome behavior or other reckless behavior violating the peace of another" underlying the case against Pastor Jan Kåre Christensen.

- I can not comment on details of the case, but I think in principle that it is special that this section is used, because we are talking about utterances in a blog. Christensen seeks therefore not Torp by phone, text message or otherwise directly, but writes what he thinks of him as a pastor in the blog. It lies outside the core area that provision, says Wessel-Aas, stressing that he only knows the case through circulation in Our Country and by reading the indictment.

Wessel-Aas points out that the aforementioned provision of the Criminal Code since ancient times has been called "telephone harassment law."

- It is clear that bullying and harassment in social media over time can do that people can not bear to be there more. But I still think it is important that the Court did not extend penal provision to include too much. There is a point to be as specific as possible when to restrict freedom of expression through legislation, says Wessel-Aas.

Statements such as "living in adultery" makes it more natural to use defamation law, says the lawyer. Defamation is decriminalized in the new Penal Code and can therefore only be the basis for a civil lawsuit. It seems more relevant in this case, according to him.

- I think there is danger if clause of the Penal Code will be expanded by adding something that is no longer a crime, says Wessel-Aas.

Public figure. - What impact can an eventual judgment get?

- If there is a punishment in accordance with the indictment, I believe much more can be judged the same way. It will make the boundaries of free speech little obvious, which in turn can lead to people avoiding expressing themselves, responding Wessel-Aas and refers to the matter are provisions to safeguard against false accusations, violations of privacy, threats and incitement to violence .

Wessel-Aas points out that Torp is a familiar figure in Christian Norway and largely in the same position as many politicians.

- The room must be greater when it comes to statements about public persons.

Christensen disagrees with how Torp practice the relationship between life and doctrine, that his interpretation of biblical texts, highlighting Wessel-Aas.

- Also there will be great headroom.
(End of quote).

Brynjar Meling said at least five things for me to be acquitted. It was this:

1) Incorrect application of the law, this section has nothing to do with harassment and this police claim.

2.) Jan Aage Torp has even gone much, much further than Christensen in their statements with ia calling him too many ugly and horrible things, as well as his blog, he has condemned in the most crudest and violated Christensen.

3.) Torp has encouraged nettrolene to continue with flaming by Christensen, when he himself has been silent.

4.) Torp has sought out MY BLOG THAT HE COULD MAINTAIN THEMSELVES AWAY WITH SINGLE NEVER clicked into IT! What I have done him no with violation of § 390 a. One can not use a § as a self-will, then we are North Korea or Saudi Arabia.

5.) Christensen has used only the Bible and Canaan language, it is not punishable, but legal.

6.) The sixth and final point that I would mention, there came the lawyer to Torp, police prosecutor who changed almost 180 degrees during the trial. From being fight negative to me, and be fighting posetiv. He Dag Paulsen said Christensen has not written anything illegal. I've really only hurt feelings Torp something really when he himself has chosen to click onto my blog!

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1161-only-those-nefarious-sites.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1142-unexpectedly-however-more.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1141-police-jurist-day-paulsen-last.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1140-says-apostle-and-pastor-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1132-police-on-manglerud-and-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1128-if-verdict-of-district-court.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1127-verbal-abuse-ridicule-and.html

tirsdag 29. mars 2016

No. 1161: Only those nefarious sites Searchlight and the false Smyrna blog, and hate group at Manglerud supporting Jan Aage Torp!

No. 1161:
Only those nefarious sites Searchlight and the false Smyrna blog, and hate group at Manglerud supporting Jan Aage Torp!

Website Searchlight with Kjell Andersen writes constant crap about me, and anyone writing on this disgusting site also writes shit, false and keeps completely with Jan Aage Torp.
I take again, and prints the same. So I get thousands of diagnoses and sake!
Should anyone defend me in Searchlight, so within 1 hour so is an out with name, address, phone number and all the information they can find about you!

The whole site is a crime and should really be warned against!
Image of Torodd Fuglesteg which is Jan Aage Torp well sole defender standing up with your full name and clout ?!

The few others who defend Torp, do it either with a fictitious name.
Or behind a keyboard so he is never depicted, showing who he really is.
I think of the evil and obscene Kjell Andersen who runs the website Searchlight. So have a hate groups on Manglerud who call themselves police. If this is the Norwegian police, when it says very bad to the police in Norway. Yes, it is a disaster for such a poor police like this are probably not even in North Korea or Saudi Arabia I'm convinced!


Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are called adage!

For Jan Aage Torp is no preachers in Norway country that has stood up for him, but his two most ardent defender has been Norway's two ugliest and worst net roll. Ansgar Braut who writes under a fictitious name. And the evil and conniving Torodd Fuglesteg, here is Torp defenders.

No other, not a single one. Apart from Polti at Manglerud which have been totally misled by Jan Aage Torp, talk about being police who fight on the wrong side.

Then we have the website Searchlight standing completely with Jan Aage Torp.

Why is not there anyone else? It is very strange? Or is it not? I know at least, for my own part. That after what has emerged in the recent past, so all this is like an echo of what I have already spoken and written.

There is really only obvious criminals and people who are spiritually blind who now stands with Jan Aage Torp. As neither wish, or can face reality.

Let us briefly take mentioning who then faced with Jan Aage Torp.

1.) hate groups on Manglerud.
2.) The false Smyrna blog with the two largest and worst web roll, Ansgar Braut and Torodd Fuglesteg.
3.) Searchlight is a dark and disgusting part. Eg. I came in injury when I pasted a thing with angel Mormoni. This team Searchlight own cause on. But when they leave out some shit to my "advantage" that lay out a few hours when I pointed this out. Then it is not so "dangerous". Here's all I speak and write, anyway not good. But what Jan Aage Torp writing and speeches, all this is good, anyway. Such acts Kjell Andersen Searchlight, here we are talking about a dark site that is in black literally!

Here are some articles about these people who are the only ones standing up for Jan Aage Torp. In other words, Torp is so inflamed, that no one will or dare stand up to him? Or is it that they have realized that I have argued for several years that Jan Aage Torp is a mockery Apostle and manipulator.

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1142-unexpectedly-however-more.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1141-police-jurist-day-paulsen-last.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1140-says-apostle-and-pastor-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1132-police-on-manglerud-and-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1128-if-verdict-of-district-court.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1127-verbal-abuse-ridicule-and.html

søndag 27. mars 2016

No. 1160: Victory is our we have won victory is ours!

No. 1160:
Victory is our we have won victory is ours!

Victory is our we have won victory is ours!, we sang after we had won on the football field.
Has now started with a clean work regarding everything that is written about Manglerud police and Jan Aage Torp.

Now victory so overwhelming victories so big, it can not really be bigger! All of Norway know that I had right in everything I have written and spoken about in January Aage Torp.
There comes a lawsuit in Court of Appeal, I expect?
It shall I take, but now victory so enormous. It can not really be greater, as it is hold in all that I have written and spoken. What emerges through Anderstorps book, VGTV and other means have been forcefully that I was right. When all that has emerged is like an echo of what I have said, written and spoken!

Everything what I have written and spoken is obvious to everyone Christensen shown what he did!
What more could I wish for? More than conquerors? Na, when a stand there and not really lift a finger, and it will win.
This is what we / I have experienced!
Wants to write a book, but it will come when it comes. The book was about time revealed Manglerud police as thoroughly rotten and Jan Aage Torp and his supporters likewise
Should wished someone will support me, so this book project is implemented!
Here is my email address if you want to reach me: jk.chris@online.no
But there are also two ladies who are accomplices in Jan Aage Torp's gross sins.
It is his former wife and current wife, which I've written about minimal. But here's an article I wrote, which you can read:

Photo by Jan Aage Torp and these two ladies who also need to be aware that they have been involved in Torp's madness!
Ann-Christin Düring Woll and Aina Lanton Torp is an accomplice in the catastrophe January Aage Torp!





I have now been a Christian for over 35 years. But have never seen a so-called Christian leader has been stripped, humiliated and looked down upon by both Christian and secular people.
Meanwhile, he was not this, saying that here there is a psychopath who live in their own bubble.
But now - final - he revealed. This is just the beginning, the ladder down!
He is enough as the evil Haman, though he has been supported by the dark police Manglerud, so it is of no help when here is really fatal tired already inserted.
Looks Torp writing nonsense on their own blog, the problem is he the sin, not the sins of others!
The complaints 3. 39 Why complain a human living? Any complaint of his sins?
2 Joh. b. 11 for the bidding him welcome, is partaker of his evil deeds.

But what is the message of these two ladies, who want to be faithful? Scripture is very clear here. It is not to be mistaken, they may live as God's word teaches, and what scripture says?
Regarding Aina Lanton Torp so she can not live together with Jan Aage Torp. For he is married already by the word of God, she is an adulteress and is involved in Jan Aage Torp his sin.
Luke 16 18 Whosoever shall put away his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.
Room. 7. 2 The married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as he lives; but if her husband dies, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 Therefore she called an adulteress if she, while her husband lives, marries another man; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress if she marries another.
Very clearly, either live solitary, something I would recommend. Or reconcile with Jan Aage Torp, who must be very demanding when he does not live as a believer today.
This is what the scripture says about Ann-Christin Düring Woll:
1 Cor. 7. 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not divorce his husband; 11 but divorced him, then abiding she being unmarried or reconciled with her husband - and a husband should not divorce his wife.
Manages than this can hardly be said? Whether live single, or reconcile with Jan Aage Torp. This is what Jesus and Paul teach.

Final Comment:

1 Corinthians 6: 16 Know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? For it is said: The two shall become one flesh. 17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 18 Flee fornication! Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but the immoral man sins against his own body. 19 Know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who dwells in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your are? 20 For ye are bought with a price. Price: therefore glorify God in your bodies.
In many ways live family Torp totally to God's word, and it is deeply tragic. No wonder Anders Torp appears as confused and attacking his father. And Torp again comes with the strangest things. One day he defends him, the next day he attacks him. Such waves it back and forth. But the problem is Jan Aage Torp, who is re-married and adhere to a prostitute and even is an adulterer and adulteress after God's own words!
(End of quote).

Taking eventually some mail exchanges I've had that show where I stand today, where I of course anomyserer the others:
Anonymous:
Are you rid Torp and his legal thrust or struggling Still with it?
Regards.
Me:
Legally, yes!
But for me, what has happened lately perceived as Israel's exit from Egypt across the Red Sea!
You understand? Regards Jan K
Anonymous:
Yes, I understand.
But it is good that such people get resistance. They release generally much lighter away than they deserve.
And it's annoying.
Regards.
Me:
......... .., The truth is that the whole world is open to them.
Such as me must work uphill.
But now it's relative strength has been replaced.
Then go Torp under when he never really had resistance in life.
His blog is full of attacks on his own son, and the public, then realize one that man is a manipulator and a mockery Apostle!
Wishing you and your continued good Sunday!
Regards
Jan K
Anonymous:
Hi Jan scores!
I have become over the years an older man ... .år and I may not respond as youngsters do anymore.
I have followed a close eye on your things in the last few years, Jan Kåre and I have sympathy. Primarily because you are not getting done little more than to control and fight with various wicked people. It reminds me of he who fought against sweep. Both were eventually like answered.
With that I'll give you a piece of advice: If you do not catch up, so will these writings give up eventually.
Regarding the case against Torp I have the following advice: After the case has been to the Court, I would have laid the matter dead. If you are again being made guilty, I'd taken the penalty. I would not have paid any fine, but going to jail. Today using the anklets, ie you can serve the penalty home. Remember Hans Nielsen Hauge ... Either way you'll get well and forces out of it all.
Conclusion: Ignore these wicked people in writing and in speech and start over. I think it's very good that you have started with Web TV.
This is my simple advice, Jan Kåre!
You know, we should not forget what is behind and reach for what lies ahead.
I would therefore have stopped and attack those who do wrong things, but rather think about what you can achieve and receive from the Lord. God does not care about the various sins of these people, God turns only backs to them!
I would also have blotted out from the net most of Torp and various other sinners.
Yes, this was short, but I know it is from the Lord! And thank you for asking me ... and some others

Anonymous:
He is trapped by its own game. It's like a boomerang which eventually return with full force. We can call it doomsday.

God has patience. But it has its limits.

On the fruits the tree is known.

Regards.

Me:
Yes, death tired inserted!

Torp will never rise as a preacher or pastor.

Let's hope that Aina wake up and leave him as soon as possible, but it's more than hope!

But God is able!

Regards
Jan K

Anonymous:
Young ladies who are brainwashed in bubble churches is impressed by such types. The church exists to "pastor" and not vice versa. He has only a need to have a cheerleader around his own ego. It is easy to understand when he speaks, he does not live in the same reality as normal people. It's just like he lives in a bubble or simply psychotic.

Regards.

.............................................................................

God's peace to you and your family, Jan Kåre!
Regards
Me:
The appeal will I take any to the Supreme Court. I'll take any punishment I'm going to get with stoic calm.
But it is not very specifically what has happened in the past?
But that soon all over Norway - the people - know that what I have written about Torp. The same believes his son and many with him?
Regards
Jan K
Anonymous:
Hi Jan Kåre!
Glad you agree mostly I wrote!
Yes, both Our Land, Day and various other journals have fronted what you stand for. No one can be in doubt about it, that it is important that the first marriage should be kept sacred!
But all things have their time with each one. The Lord has certainly other things to come, as it is worth noting and fight.
Regards
Yes, today I am free from the bus run. Could really thought me to stop now soon, at least for a period of time to write two books.
A book about Jan Aage Torp, where the title would be something like this:
"My meeting with sham apostle and the cynical" Pastor "Jan Aage Torp."
Textbook in meeting power people, also within its Christian communities.
And another book, titled somewhat:
"What does it mean to preach the whole counsel of God to salvation and what is whole counsel of God ?!"
Yes, Anders Helge, I feel quite finished Torp, but it is sad to read on his blog.
His blog is full of attacks on his own son, and the public, then realize one that the man is a psychopath and a mockery Apostle!
Wishing you and your continued good Sunday!
Regards
Jan K

Final Comment:

"At dawn the first day of the week came unto the sepulcher, bringing with them the Jesus Resurrection-03velluktende oils which they had prepared. Then they saw that the stone was rolled away from the tomb and went in but did not find the Lord Jesus' body. They did not know what to believe, but one stood two men by them in shining garments. The women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground. But the two said to them: "Why do you seek the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen. Remember what he told you, while he was still in Galilee: the Son of Man must be delivered into hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise. "Then they remembered his words. And they returned from the tomb and told all this to the eleven and to all the others. It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, who along with the other women told this to the apostles. But they thought it was all nonsense and did not believe them. Peter went out and ran to the tomb, and when he leaned into it, he saw nothing but the linen cloths. So he went back to where he lived, and wondered what had happened "...
Should we not rejoice when good triumphs over evil?
Jesus rose from the dead.

Israel's Exodus from Egypt and Pharaoh's army was shattered when Israel walked on dry ground of the Red Sea!

Evangelist and Bible teacher Jan Kåre Christensen mighty victory over the manipulator and mockery apostle Jan Aage Torp where all that Christensen had written and been prosecuted were true down to the last word. Which has now become obvious to all of Norway!
This is the great victory and triumph over evil and the evil that we truly can rejoice!

Psalm 41 12 Thereupon I know that you delight in me, that my enemy shall not rejoice over me.

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lørdag 26. mars 2016

No. 1157: Notes that after the total victory we have won over the disaster in Jan Aage Torp, then Torodd Fuglesteg and Ansgar Braut lost all inhibitions!

No. 1157:
Notes that after the total victory we have won over the disaster in Jan Aage Torp, then Torodd Fuglesteg and Ansgar Braut lost all inhibitions!

I saw a movie yesterday, which I unfortunately have seldom time. It was about Hitler's last days. Actually memories this movie about the disaster in Jan Aage Torp, Torodd Fuglesteg, Kjell Andersen and Ansgar Braut.

Hitler's private secretary tells his story, and this is quite a story.

Traudl Junge was Hitler's private secretary from 1942. She tells precise and detailed about their experiences until the last days in Hitler's bunker. About Hitler and Eva Braun who married one of the last few days, when they showed that it was all over. About when Hitler tried poison pill in his beloved dog first, to see if it worked, which it did.

Eva Braun would take the pill and not shoot himself, for she would be a pretty corpse. The others discussed how they were going to shoot himself - against his temple or mouth. She says until Hitler and Eva Braun has taken his life, and his closest colleagues sitting together in the bunker and drink and smoke and expresses repressed hatred of Adolf Hitler, a privately felt hat. She wondered a lot over there.

The film shows only the face of Traudl Junge while she says. It is not used a single archive image. She is a beautiful older lady and language is sober. She did not know what that was outside, she says, or did not understand it, and bebereider themselves for it.

The sober adaptation makes diploma particularly strong. Of strange reasons there has been no interest in her story until now. She wrote a book in 1947, but released she did not. Now comes the book also (2005). This is what the movie is based. Which is entitled Downfall.

In many ways reminiscent Torp fall of Hitler's fall, both psychopaths warps and wonder people. Really no strong personalities, but cynical and manipulative.

Image of Adolf Hitler who also had to give up in the end! Such is also the sham apostle January Aage Torp which appears more and more like the person he really always has been. A cynical self-centered and manipulative false Apostle as head does not care neither about God nor his word. Where he takes himself to correct just as it suits him. It's like God's word says about such people as Jan Aage Torp clouds without rain.


Why not humble himself when it turns out that one has lived in a large, large self-deception?

Based on a Christian standpoint, it's tragic what has happened the past month. around Jan Aage Torp and his supporters. As long as I've been a believer, I have never seen a so-called Pastor or Shepherd been so stripped. And Torp is not aware that he has in all respects lost. He is not there yourself, talk about going with blinders.

Son Anderstorps publicly denigrates his own Father, what does the word of God?

From my commentaries Ephesians 6 1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.

This is a very important verse. In the meantime, the empty within its ranks Christians become a spiritual battle of dimensions where the distance between parents and children will be so great that the word of God says that people follow their passions and flesh filled! That we must say that there are spiritual powers from the evil behind.
2. Tim. 3. 1. But this know, that in the last days there shall come perilous times. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unreliable, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power - and these should turn away.

2 Thou shalt honor thy father and thy mother, that is the first commandment that has a promise:

Here goes Paul back to the Ten Commandments in 2 Exodus 20 that God gave Moses. The law is spiritual, just and good he says to the Romans and to us all. Want a good and prosperous life? Appreciate your parents, sound them and have great age for them! Next to God they stand over you.

3 so that it may go well and you may live long in the country.

Then you promise that it will go well and live long in the land, the land that the Lord gave us. A that the important thing with the Spirit's coming is that parents and children thrive and are together. Malachi 4 6 He will turn the hearts of the children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

4 Fathers, away not anger and defiance in the children, but give them the upbringing and guidance which is the Lord's will.

Proverbs 13: 24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son. But he who loves him chastens him early. This can also be misunderstood and one can go too far. Most today chastens kids too little, I think. The balancing act here is very important and necessary. The kids need above all love, encouragement and gain the respect of blind parents. Grandparents and other family members who support the kids is also a good and must.
(End of quote).

I write and teach what God's word says and teaches, but the family in Jan Aage Torp is the exact opposite. I write about here:

The whole family Jan Aage Torp switch consistent God, therefore the great disharmony and strong contradictions among themselves!

Room. 7. 2 The married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as he lives; but if her husband dies, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 Therefore she called an adulteress if she, while her husband lives, marries another man; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress if she marries another man.

The world's children live in a huge not lov, but the fact is that faithful people live the same way.
In many ways it is lined and outlined in from the Creator - God how we as human beings should live. And how to relate to each other.

God's commandments apply today - as it has always done!

Joh. e. 14 21 Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is that loveth me; but he that loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.

I do not know anything about people of faith who believe that we as Christians have nothing to relate to, at least not something that requires and demands something.
Jesus says in the New Testament the following:
"Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is that loveth me."

To briefly mention some of the commandments that family Torp break, and that has resulted in the disharmony and the strong contradictions among themselves!

1.) Ann Christin and Jan Aage Torp, when they divorced. Then they either lived alone or reconcile with each other. Now they have both found a new life partner as the Bible describes as adultery, fornication and sin. In other words, here they both offenders, in other words adulterers.

2.) Jan Aage Torp has reported to the police myself, which is also totally against God's commandments. Judgment belongs to God, and such matters must be discussed internally in the church, and only there. Go to secular authorities is 100% God's word.

3.) That they have a son who behaves like a rebel, Anders Torp. Which publishes a book in which he denigrates his own father. It is like a wound, then reaps man. In other words, here it is a family that is totally wounded when they were as one breaks the commandments of God. We in the NT has as many commandments of God to deal with that in the Old Testament. What we find in the New Testament, Jesus and the Apostles spoke and taught. It applies to us today, just as much as what Moses and the prophets in the Old Testament spoke and taught. In other words, here there is a family who is disobedient against the LORD: therefore the following so large and so comprehensive.

4.) Who has the primary responsibility here? It is "priest" in the house, Jan Aage Torp. But time after time as declines in Jan Aage Torp their responsibilities. Whether to attack others in the family, or they provide so much freedom that they have.

5.) But when have thrown themselves into the arms of a young, charming hussy, then everything then. Biblically it is not, but deeply tragic!

Jan Aage Torp has discarded God's word in all fields in their own lives. That he gets now this is like a boomerang as haying back on himself, poor prodigal husband as the son of the destruction he is! But there is even time for him and his supporters to repent, but we need to ask God and people for forgiveness. And mean it!

Jan Aage Torp still plays a dirty game. Where he tries to appear humble, but really rude and arrogant. He says he has been a bad father etc. But then he attacks his son in turn. Here we see the psychopath who are constantly trying to catch up "lost ground"! "

Deeply tragic, are now attacking me to engage in incest and other. Here sinking a down to such a low point, that it is possible to sink further down?

Jan Aage Torp writes really about himself here on his blog:
"My experience is that the misguided media the link between sexual abuse and" strict, religious dark men "are greatly exaggerated. On the contrary, it is the charming and trustworthy as ingratiates in the family, in school and kindergarten, and in social settings. They are the most dangerous. "

Yeah, right, those who look as "normal" out is the most dangerous, ugliest and the slick recommended!

These are some of the messages I've received on the Heavenly blog from Ansgar Braut and Torodd Fuglesteg.

Anders Torp added a new comment on your post Ranked. 1418: Ann-Christin Düring Woll and Aina Lanton ...:

Is remarriage worse than having been up incest against your own daughters, Jan Kare?

Anders Torp

This is too bad. Can it get worse?

Anonymous has posted a new comment on your post Ranked. 1418: Ann-Christin Düring Woll and Aina Lanton ...:

What scripture says about you who rape their own daughters, Jan?

Here are the people who are downright evil, and these hold Manglerud Polti with. Talk about tragedy!

Anonymous has posted a new comment on your post Ranked. 1418: Ann-Christin Düring Woll and Aina Lanton ...:

Yes, finally you are revealed, Jan Kåre ........ as having incest shit abused against their daughters !!!!!

I tipped the police and I tweet about this in tvitter. Now you will see that you get what you deserve, you fat pig !!

well Fred

On the website Searchlight is not any better!

I shall have regard to Nardus and the left is a sect that allows rape and incest. Firstly, it is 29 years since last I spoke with Torkil Terk. Would have liked to have talked to him again, this happened after I had contact with Terk, who says that I do not have anything with this case to do.
Secondly, as I have learned Torkil Terk know, he is morally a very good and strong man. It sounds totally alien to me that he's doing such or endorses this. I would really recommend Torkild Terk reviewing site Searchlight who write so much shit about him and puts out such fabricated rumors.

This to hook me up to Nardus and others, is nothing else to spread false rumors and lies.

This writes the evil Torodd Fuglesteg in Searchlight.

Torodd Fuglesteg writes bluntly that he wants my death, I will hang myself.
Hatpoltiet in Manglerud, what do they do? Nothing in my favor, but everything to protect the trio January Aage Torp, Torodd Fuglesteg and Ansgar Braut!
This must surely be the ugliest comment I have ever read on the Web, where I will be wanted dead. But police believe there is more crime to write that Jan Aage Torp is an adulterer than others dead ?!

Torodd Fuglesteg Wed 10/19/2014 at 10:09 p.m. said:
Okke like; there are at least two cases the police against JKC for the moment. In addition, jobs others with cases and that several plans in person at JKC, residence or job, to talk with Christensen about his sewer blog. One or more media houses working on cases for publication.
I think we say it is.
Ansgar: You are young and blond. You will exchangers aa never take personal contact with insane people when they want to exploit this for all it's worth. By mistake you become wise. By trial and errors, formed very good people. Keep it up.
And the purpose of these records has hosted aa give JKC enough rope to dangle in. Something that we have achieved, I see. Police, lawyers and doctors have got everything they need. Thus, the mission is complete.

Furthermore:
1. Torodd Fuglesteg Wed 25/03/2016 at 10:06 p.m. said:
And it seems now as if JKC believe that remarriage is a much worse sin than incest and sexual exploitation of children. JKC actually, implicitly, written, that victims of incest and sexual exploitation where predators are Christians may report such matters to the police. See his use of 1 Cor 6.1 to 7.
JKC mean then that children and victims of sexual abuse only to find themselves in it without aa blend into police. That's how he uses 1 Cor 6.1 to 7 and that's how he no strings supports a church that has covered such atrocities against children.
I would say that incest and sexual exploitation of children is much worse than remarriage. But what do I then ...... ..
http://www.sokelys.com/?p=15053

Here are numerous late so rough and ugly, that it is unnecessary to comment on this. Have never experienced something so cruel and ugly online, so here it should have been talking about years in prison and six-figure sum in damages and compensation.

Final Comment:

Taking with what the false Smyrna blog also writes, then realize a just a here there are dangerous criminals of people who have no inhibitions in some areas of their lives.

From the False Smyrna blog:
https://smyrnamenighet.wordpress.com/2016/03/24/nytt-spm-om-christensen-torp-saken-dreier-den-seg-om-torp-sin-politikk-mot-seksuelle-overgrep-mot-barn/
New ppm of Christensen & Torp matter: Is it about Torp its policy against child sexual abuse?
On March 24, 2016March 24, 2016 Smyrna Church in Oslo
We have got a question from Solfrid in Grimstad. She is happily married and reads Searchlight and our blog every day. Her question began to show us the article "Pastor Torp parish with the necessary strict policy of sexual abuse" This is a very interressant article from Kjell and Searchlight. An article Kjell Andersen deserves praise.
Our Smyrna Church has in the last half hour sent an email to Pastor Torp asking for a copy of this policia. This is so that we can copy this and introduce this even with us. While writing this, our own pastor about to look up teaching materials that we can use to provide courses for our own members in this discovering pedophiles and other sexual predators in our church. We should have an absolute zero-tolerance above these and we discover will without delay be prosecuted. Other measures will also be considered. Now it's an hour ago we read this article and it has caused a lot of activity with us. We are working hard right now.
Orhan Grimstad also asked us about Jan Kåre Christensen hat has something that Pastor Torp has taken such a great distance from pedophilia and sexual abuse among Christians.
Searchlight refers to this article where Jan Kåre defends Nardus sect in everything. A sect that is revealed to his sexual abuse of children. I know that Jan Kåre lied in their comments to this article when he was confronted by his friendship with Torkild Terk and Nardus sect. We know it's a good friendship between Jan Kåre and Nardus sect. Among them are the common theology where they reject central parts of the Bible.
Nardus sect and Torkild Terk is also very tolerant, not to say very friendly, above pedophiles and those who sexually abuses on their own children. A man who was named as a vile sexual predator in the book Say That You Lying still enjoys full confidence in Nardus sect. This while the victim for his sexual abuse, who wrote the book over, has been thrust into the outer darkness of Nardus sect. They believed that it was much worse that she reported to the police and wrote this book than this man sexually abused her. This is politics in Nardus sect. A sect Jan Kåre has a very friendly relationship and that he defends in all and one. We assume that he also agrees with Nardus sect when they believe that the police report was much worse than the sexual abuse towards this girl.
For it is indeed so one can decipher Jan Kåre many hateful outcomes against those who report the other Christian people. Including women and children who report their Christian perpetrators of sexual abuse. It is now clear to us that Jan Kåre wholeheartedly supports Nardus sect when they believe it is worse that child sexual abuse comes to light than men sexually abuses children. Some other logical conclusion does not exist.
As Orhan rightly reminded us, began Jan Kåre hating Pastor Torp around the time when Pastor Torp and his denomination introduced a zero-tolerance policy against sexual abusers. One may wonder whether this is random or not. Orhan believe that Jan Kåre hate Pastor Torp for this reason. We do not know enough about this. But we'll figure this out.
Orhan ask us about it also was happening or going on sexual abuse of children in the sect Jan Kåre leader. Now the sect only Christensen family and eventually only Jan Kåre Christensen after his children became so powerful denouncing his own father. We do not believe that sexual abuse has occurred within Jan Kåre his little sect. But we think it is very bad that Jan Kåre supports and defends Nardus sect its policy in this field.
We will now enter the mechanisms of ourselves so that this does not happen with us. Just the thought of sexual abuse of children is a disgusting thought that makes us physically nausea. At Jan Kåre and Nardus sect defends such shit is more than we can understand.

Arne Ulf Breen Smyrna Church
(End of quote).

Could it be worse than to assert that I do rape and incest of my own daughters? The low point is reached at Jan Aage Torp and his poodles and lackeys as they like to call themselves!

Related links:
http://janchristensen.net/
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/
http://blog.janchristensen.net/
http://undervisning.janchristensen.net/

fredag 25. mars 2016

No. 1156: WHO IS REALLY PASTOR?

No. 1156:
WHO IS REALLY PASTOR?

By Lars Christian Løchen, Oslo

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-843-should-jan-aage-torp-quit-as.html

Photo by two newlyweds, who says that the marriage covenant is unbreakable. It lasts a lifetime, only death will terminate.


 
Should it be allowed to render public what the Bible says about sin or is it reasonable that a person who does it will be sued and get fines and other costs? Jan Åge Torp has sued Jan Kåre Christensen for this.

When Christensen example uses the word "immoral", he uses the same word as the Norwegian Bible translator uses. The words "immoral" and "whore buck" is synonymous in Norwegian. We have noticed that Jan Aage Torp has been doing a very poisonous campaign against gays in Norway.

He has done this on the grounds that the Bible must be followed because it is God's word. Then it is not unreasonable that we follow the same rules when it comes to remarriage. It may not be so bibeltroskapen should be selective: When others pay the price it's OK; when I have to pay a price, it is not as interesting. Then Scripture explained away. Then you have in reality made double sets rules: one set rules for others and primarily those I do not like, and another set of rules for me and those I love.

The word pastor comes from Latin and means shepherd. Many call themselves pastors today. But they are there in the biblical sense? Is pastor of the church or a congregation something a "pastor" need to be able to call himself a pastor? Many are in fact self-appointed pastors in that they rent premises and invites to meet. When there are enough regular visitors, "pastor" become a pastor. People coming onto the meetings have de facto accepted that whoever took the initiative pastor. Such a "pastor" often have no slave which Jesus requires of a shepherd. They only focus on their own needs. The Bible says that the false shepherds will be much stricter judged on Judgment Day. Therefore, this fake game very seriously.

A phenomenon that we see increasingly is ministers who actually comes in the same category as pop stars. Their activities are often very lucrative. It is pertinent to wonder how many preachers and pastors who had been in if they had been deprived of the rewards of money, power and admiration from people.

It was never intended that the church should be handed over to a person and his selvplukkete assistants. We all know the term "church planting" and individual reviewing the congregation's church that they have started.

In 1 Tim 3.1 to 7 and Titus 1, 5-9 Paul writes about the moral qualifications he expects the elders to have. These requirements are very strict. This was not without reason. A leader who lived in sin or living a reprehensible life dishonored God's name and created major problems for the church. A leader may partly be well regarded by outsiders. This was that the person should not be exposed to scorn and bring the church and the gospel into disrepute. The opposite was desirable as an important testimony to draw people to salvation.

A church without elders function was unthinkable for Paul. Titus 1.5: "I left you in Crete so that you would bring order to the thing that was still undone. You should appoint elders in every city, as I instructed you."

One would be a good church leader you have to be able to manage his own family well: "If he fails to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?" 1 Tim 3.5.

The danger of rule were present among the oldest. Diotrephes discussed in 3 John. 9-11 seems to be a person who focused on power. A desire to be "the premier" gave poor signals and was not for the benefit of the church (v. 10). John writes that Diotrephes loved to stand as number one and struggled to get the position. Therefore operated churches with letters of recommendation. Such a letter was required to obtain a leading position. This was to prevent suspicious people usurping power in the churches.

1 Cor 6.7: "... you have lawsuits against each other." After the time that Christians ought condition been different. This applies especially to people who are expected to assume a leadership position.

When NT speaks of a congregation elder, used always plural. Together they were able to lead the church and "be an example to the flock" (1 Peter 5.3). The elders were visible in the church. They were inserted (Tim 1,5) and dedicated to this service (Ap. Cur. 14,23). This meant that everyone could easily contact them for conversation and prayer. The oldest was particularly "put to the service" (1 Tim 1,12). The service made them servants and the idol was the Lord himself: "... he gave himself nothing, taking the form of a servant." (Philip 2.7). Only this was standard for church management. Manges experience is that this is not the rule today. Some managers appear as kings or rulers with near unlimited power. Jesus says that the greatest is the one who is your servant. He imposes his disciples to wash one another's feet. Leader Conferences are popular today. Is it likely that the aforementioned words of Jesus are central in these conferences? I have not heard about it. No other, either.


remarriage

Jesus abolishes the divorce permission which Moses gave because the "hardness of heart" (Mt 19,8). Divorce Letter dissolves not matrimony.

But there are in Matthew an exception from the rule of absolute divorce ban. Matt 5.32 and 19.9: Jesus allows divorce if the spouse has committed adultery. Divorce is allowed but not prescribing if the spouse has had a sexual relationship with someone other than their spouse. Remarried prohibition is clear and unambiguous in the words of Jesus in Markus- and the Gospel of Luke and in Paul as the explicit reference to Jesus' authority enjoins spouses who stand, not to remarry (1 Cor 7, 10-11).

Ancient Christian strict vision; that divorce does not entitle him to remarriage; based on a more probable interpretation of the biblical texts than the Reformation vision, which was introduced by the humanist Erasmus of Rotterdam.

It was the time of the Reformation an independent judicial body that decided the question of guilt in a divorce case. This does not happen today.
Therefore fall all the talk of "the innocent party" death to the earth. It often requires two to tango. Who is the innocent party is often dependent on the eye of the beholder. "The innocent party" is a type of argument that has no basis in the Bible, but is only one grip to talk away the Bible. It may in certain cases be a real temptation for many.

In Matthew 19 reacts disciples with dismay at Jesus' strict views on remarriage. They believe then it must be better not to marry (19.10). Disciples reaction seems therefore to be expressed that they understood Jesus' answer to the Pharisees as an absolute no to a new marriage.

An abandoned spouse should adhere to the rule: either remain unmarried or be reconciled to her spouse. There are two valid reasons for divorce: adultery and that the non-Christian leaves his faithful spouse.

This means that anyone who divorces and marries another, fornicators, ie living in sin. Bible distinguishes between living in sin and fall into sin. One who lives in sin has accepted sin as a permanent phenomenon in their lives. God's forgiveness can not be granted until you have turned away from sin. This principle applies obviously all but living in sin disqualifies particularly from leading positions in the church.

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-987-ive-opened-comments-after-torps.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-838-solicitors-lawyers-and-others.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-835-ansgar-braut-i-had-police-report.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-834-scheduled-to-meet-for-mediation.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-838-according-pastor-and-false.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-837-pastor-jan-aage-torp-writes.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-834-torp-think-i-write-under-synonym.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-828-standing-pastor-torp-and-oslo.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/12/no-827-is-it-allright-to-receive.html
 http://herescope.blogspot.no/2012/10/sacred-cows-and-stars.html?m=1
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/Wagner-conference.htm
http://apprising.org/2011/10/27/an-unhealthy-update-on-c-peter-wagner-the-nefarious-narians/
http://www.spiritoferror.org/category/modern-apostles-and-prophets/c-peter-wagner-modern-apostles-and-prophets
https://mkayla.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/c-peter-wagner-in-his-own-defense/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdZIC-KzL7M
http://herescope.blogspot.no/2011/08/c-peter-wagner-spins-nar.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/04/nr-284-pastors-and-preachers-who-are-re.html

tirsdag 22. mars 2016

No. 1153: SMS between Jan Kåre Christensen and Ragnhild Kristin Limstrand!

No. 1153:
SMS between Jan Kåre Christensen and Ragnhild Kristin Limstrand!

I have contacted several believers in different camps. And most meetings I'm not online but in other ways. At work, for example. a Catholic who has encouraged me very in this fight against Manglerud police and Jan Aage Torp. And others, like Ragnhild Kristin Limstrand living in Mjøndalen.
I put not usually out such correspondence, but to illustrate this. And that is really second faithful prayers and support that is the secret to this mine. Or our mighty victory of Jan Aage Torp where he has now been revealed to all of Norway and the whole world!

Looking at old SMS, where we among others pray for Jeremy Hoff, uninvited. That's how it should be, that we believers put each other before God, within its throne of grace. Photo by Jeremy Hoff.
Heb. 4. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time.
Efes. 3. 12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence through faith in him.



Me:
Ask for Jeremy Hoff. Got mail from him. He will leave Norway and experiencing the press is too big. Send the message and pray also for me to address hate police and hatred Pastor Torp in court Thursday. Here a hated and persecuted for his name's sake!
Regards Berit and Jan Kåre

RL:
Dear Berit and Jan Kåre! I have asked for your friend who is under strong pressure. It is tough and difficult times. Yes also for you dear grace siblings. Today there are not easy to follow. Jesus. We are in a spiritual battle as never before .and magnetite we have forsaken their first love .it seems that they will not follow. Jesus at the crossroads. But it st suffer hardship with me as a good. Jesus Christ soldier. And fight against false doctrine is important.
We must keep the sample and speak words of truth that was put down in us. We see how many who stray from the truth. . But. God grunnvol stands, having this sailing:. Lord knows his. God's peace. I stand with you. A few years ago I saw a vision. There were two long rows. The liberal and the one who stands on the rock. We stand on mountains and coves not .. God is powerful friends. God richly bless you keep y'all .. blood of Jesus! Ragnhild Limstrand

Me:
Remember to pray for me Thursday. 9:30 saddle 427 that the trial go away with full acquittal, or that the police keeps calm and dropped the whole matter. Fundamentally, this is a tullesak who should never have been on trial.
Regards Berit and Jan Kåre

RL:
Dear! Yes, it is an injustice so great today that it is impossible to understand. I wrote on Friday 18 in almanak now. It is clearly nonsense and vas.
And no any limited for some cause. We must pray that. Lord puts words in the mouth of the judge. So it goes in your favor. Sister greeting. Ragnhild.
Dear brother Kåre! Yes like this takes nerves. I understand not that this sh be prosecuted. This is sad. But the righteous are persecuted. Yes I sk bed for you and this. Are heavy items that are exposed too. Sad and hear. Is the no case take us at all .I think this is serious and this reviewer that makes rough initiate seen. You are like one. Joseph, but there will always be someone there with you who are good. And. Lord himself will be your advocate and defender. I pray now. Ragnhild Limstrand.

Me:
Do not trouble your spelling. And it is a pleasure to read your messages.
Have a nice day Jesus!
Jan Kåre

RL:
Unfortunately verdict in Oslo City Court had only half a victory when I have to pay 50,000 to Jan Aage Torp. But must pay 15.000 kr. to the state! Anchor to the Court even though I seem to go to court is the last thing I want to do. But must man so must man :-D. Be still for the case, me, my family and ministry. Expect the matter comes up in the High Court before the summer! Brother Greeting Jan Kåre and sister greeting Berit

RL:
Dear. Kare and Berit! Everything is possible with God, even though it came halfway, think jg that. Lord uses dg! This world will be deceived and jg think. God rewards the upright and a whole at Jg shall continue in prayer for dg and Berit. Clearly this takes on you, but we are the head and not the tail. We must rely on who has all power in heaven and on earth. Sister greeting. Ragnhild kristin Limsta.

Me:
It was incredible what has happened in the past. Every word I have taught holt and much more has now been revealed to the entire Norwegian population regarding January Aage Torp without I have a finger attic.
The victory is much bigger than I could ever have dreamed. Now we are left with a victory which is huge!
Thanks for your continued prayers and support!
Their siblings in the Lord.
Jan Kåre and Berit Christensen

RL:
dear. January rosemary and Berit! This was victory and a joy and hear this .. Jg gazed on mobile when jg had added me .. I sent thanks to the Lord with joy .. I wish you all a great weekend! And. Happy Easter ... God be with you in all respects with thanks and cheers to him friends .. Sister greeting .. Ragnhild Kr Limstrand

Me:
Thanks for good feedback!
But victory?
Much more than that.
I have not lifted a finger and Torp has been revealed in a way that I never could have dreamed of!
Happy Easter to you and yours too!

RL:
Amen to everything gmdt for you .. It makes me happy .. Stand in victory .. S gmdt and be lifted up .. All rooms are in darkness. Revealed. This was revealed .. God be praised Hallelujah stand on the promises .. Ragnhild

Me:
Yes, he's obviously a classic psychopath. Religion is a goldmine for such people. Zero empathy toward others, of empathy towards themselves.
The information in the book and on TV shows that I am right and has not taken her mouth full. Then the whole matter implode I hope if the police realize the clear facts and shows a narrow of humiliated!

RL:
It's been so cold and HARD ... ALIEN FIRE AND FOREIGN LEARN. Redd dt are many kinds of psychopaths within church congregations. Dt is that on. The days of Noah?
Important to stand on the mountain yes. Lord md his; he knows the sincere, jg ​​is fond Pa your behalf, and. God reminds us apart, thanks. Jesus!
Go in peace. Kare, franchise ,. Lord .. Ragnhild kristin Limstrand

Me:
January Aage Torp has encouraged and influenced Norway 2 worst web roll to create this blog: https://smyrnamenighet.wordpress.com/

All this goes on to malign me, my family and those who stand up for myself and what I have to say and preach.
January Aage Torp is a wolf in sheep's clothing that Jesus described as false prophets.
Therefore, it is so difficult that Torp wondered police with his narcissism which will be responsible for the good to stand with Torp and all that he represents.
Now Torp Revealed! Pray that the truth about the police arrive. So the name of Jesus is glorified and Satan's many and ugly lies are once and for all in this matter. Revealed the folly and dark sides police lets pass and fight me and others who support me. Be exposed to the coarsest things by Jan Aage Torp, Searchlight and the false Smyrna blog!
Thanks for your continued prayers and support!
Now it's really just one last thing that remains. It is for the police and their evil deed must come to light!
Regards fam. Jan Kåre Christensen Smyrna Oslo

RL:
I got 'a book about. Rosenius jg read something from this. Jg moved some time ago. But sk back to my former apartment. Now is not all wrapped up. Jg found dn 'veil of peace .. Leste most bible but .. Also another Littre trip where jg can find rest ... God's peace is so important undr all conditions. jg shall continue my prayer for you .. You have every tried. However them room asking him get .. Amen ..

Me:
Thank you for your prayers and love to share it with others that ask for family Jan Kåre Christensen. Is there anything that can not get enough of it is the prayer!

RL:
jg to send messages to the friends who have the same biblical. Him Lord ... Ragnhild Limstrand

Me:
Thanks. This heats. Intercession solves heavenly powers. It's worth more than money and worldly goods and gold!


Testimony from Ragnhild Kristin Limstrand.

I met Jesus in early childhood .. it was through my grandmother jg experienced there was something more .. Imidletid she died when jg was 8 years. For me it was hard .. Jg was related to her .. But. The Lord called me early. I grew up in a Christian home I was the oldest of us 4. Child years where Jg testified to my friends. I grew up in. Filadelfia there was jg read children. . Adolescence was vulnerable .. We moved some rooms were in favor of me but not my siblings ..
     
Jg thrived and was not afraid of the testimony. Jesus, jg was accepted as dn jg was. School years passed, job friends family and siblings were important. Was a time in Maranata dr dt was a great youth gang, jg was baptized in maranata temple in Oslo, adolescence can be heavy too ..

But the upswing and gmdt against. Eventually I married. Roar .. We were married for 28 years. We got. Daniel. Alexander. Carl Benjamin. Malene Rebecca, they grew up and jg bathroom much for them. Christian life was a bit off track .. And it was magnetron things .. But jg bathroom much anyhow .. Prayer is important .. Jg was lucky room had fo mother room suite for us, the children became adults and two moved. Dem youngest stayed at home ..

It was difficult. Roar and I moved apart .. eventually known jg having to forgive him and me .. JG MAY CLEAN UP IN MY LIFE .. JG FAILED probably MUCH and called to. LORD. AND HAM BLACK ME ..

roar and jg are good friends today .. And jg of songs to. Lord and decide all things .. We forgave each other and are best parents for 5 cute cubs. Jg also believe our adult children are happy friend create ossimellom .. jg thank the Lord for strength and power. and not least dt inner life in him. I BELIEVE IN MARRIAGE.
I think and the restoration of marriage ..

with v. Yours. Ragnhild Limstrand

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1152-whole-family-jan-aage-torp.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1151-god-has-kept-public-judgment-of.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1149-its-going-incredibly-many-good.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1148-when-jan-aage-torp-report-her.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1146-so-called-hatkrimgruppa-on.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1145-its-shame-and-very-sad-for-all.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1144-i-have-not-lifted-finger-for.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1142-unexpectedly-however-more.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1141-police-jurist-day-paulsen-last.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/03/no-1140-says-apostle-and-pastor-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1132-police-on-manglerud-and-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1128-if-verdict-of-district-court.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/02/no-1127-verbal-abuse-ridicule-and.html