A Pastor here in Oslo got rubbel and bit of a member of the congregation. All he had of value he gave to the church and there was a large amount of 1.5 millions. And the pastor said he was quite sick afterwards. Should it not have called a "bell" or to put it, hundreds and thousands "bells" that this is sin?
Image of Jesus who ran tempering heat exchanger out of the temple, which I believe Jesus also had done with said Pastor if he had come close to Jesus and been a true biblical and healthy church.
Should we leverage our position as Pastors?
Shall we let prophecies lead us?
Is it allright and biblically motivated to let a sit penniless while even use up all his money?
Should not we we have advice for new believers that takes off and becomes extreme?
Did Jesus and the apostles such thing ever?
Jesus said for nothing, we have received it, and nothing shall we give it? Is it biblically motivated to let others go in the lurch for a self to do "God's" work?
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THE CHARISMATIC MOVEMENT!
Today there are many who seek to charismatic meetings. Many are surprised by what they are experiencing. At charismatic meetings you may experience wonders, healings, miracles, howling, screaming, incoherent speech command by symbolic touches, hypnotic repetitions words, hysterical and uncontrolled laughter, speechlessness, raised arms and ecstatic behavior. The strong emotional feeling is by the followers interpreted as evidence of the spirit of God.
Do you dare to be part of question any of the above-mentioned manifestations? We have the right to judge the case, what forces are behind.
The Bible encourages us to examine and be on guard. In 1 John, chapter 4 and 1st verse, it says: "My dear! Believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God! "
The problem today is that when someone starts to examine and ask questions, one is often labeled as "critic," "fragments motion," "one who has an unloving spirit" etc.. But those who label other people in this way, would hardly buy a house or a property without having seen the place and "checked" house. Let us now simply "checking" the charismatic movement and compare it with the words.
Since there are wonders and miracles in these meetings, and since the Bible repeatedly tells us that both Satan and God can do miracles through his human agents, it should be of interest for anyone to find out what is from God and what is from Satan.
FAITHFUL SERVANTS or DECEITFUL WORKERS?
From the New Testament we have several examples of how Jesus and his disciples healed. The disciples healed in Jesus' name. The Spirit of God was with them and gave power to paralyze the arms and feet.
But the Bible also reveals the candidates since the case, namely that Satan also can perform miracles through his human agents. In Second Epistle to the Corinthians, chapter 11, verses 13-15 as follows:
"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And it is no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light! Then it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness. But for them the end will respond to their works. "
MIRACLES, SIGNS AND UNDRE!
There are many who now understand that the great upheavals in the world, and other signs of the times, says that Jesus Christ, Savior of the world, will soon return. But before Jesus returns, the Bible makes us aware that Satan will deceive people with all kinds of signs and miracles. It says so: "And his coming is after the working of Satan, with all lying power and signs and wonders."
The Bible also about how the rulers of the earth, just before Jesus returns, will be seduced by the spirits of devils, working miracles.
Is it the number of listeners that determines whether it is biblical clear and simple truths being preached?
Jesus also says: "Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord! shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord! have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many miracles in your name? And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you son lived in lawlessness! '.
There are many today who put labels on themselves and say that their message and wonders are from God. But do not believe every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are from God. Jesus says that we shall know them by their fruits. We shall see if their lives fit with the Biblical pattern of life.
The Bible says that many will heal in the name of Jesus prophesy in the name, expel demons in Jesus' name, do signs, wonders and miracles in the name of Jesus, but Jesus will say to those on the big day: "I never knew you ! "
WHO RECEIVE GOD'S SPIRIT?
Miracles in themselves do not tell that it is from God. To discern what is false and what is true, what is from Satan and what is from God, Jesus encourages us to seek God's kingdom first. We must first become acquainted with God through the study of God's word, and then see if these people do God's will - if they stand for and preach that Jesus stood for in life and learning. It shall be the test!
But what message proclaims these teachers? Leader it you to fear and love God? Are you filled with a longing to reveal your love for Jesus Christ by faithfully living according to His commandments? The Apostle John writes: "Whoever says, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and in him is not the truth."
Those people who do not realize the great importance of the moral law, which disdains and deliberately violates the commandments of God, if only one of them, and teaches others to do the same, are looked unjust in God's eyes. Then we know that their teaching has no right to life. They continue the same work as the prince of darkness started, he who is the enemy of God.
There are people who think they are right when they are wrong. While they proclaim that Jesus is their Lord and declare that they are doing great things in His name, they are in reality it is evil. "Then they come to You in large numbers, and they sit before thee as my people, and hear Your words, but they do not do them; for it is by their taste, they do, and to gain standing their mind. "
Just pretend to be a Christian is futile. The faith in Christ as Saviour and changes a man rarely hear preached. Just believe, they say, so you do not need to keep the law. But a belief that does not lead to obedience, is a dead faith.
Therefore it is not anybody who gets God's Spirit. It is God who decides who will receive His Spirit. It is He who decides who He will work through. It is He who decides who will be His ambassador. Therefore the Bible says quite simply and clearly that there are those who do His will and obey Him, receiving the Spirit of God.
Besides, a man of God or woman will not accept money or gifts for miraculous healings. They will show that God alone should have stack. This shall also today characterize those who truly heal in the name of Jesus. But today we see many healers and their staff would prefer a "silent collectives."
We are also aware that several charismatics use NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming), a hypnotic technique that sales representatives, politicians, charismatics and others use to succeed with their product or win followers.
The charismatic movement emphasizes spiritual experiences. But it is not screaming, fainting spells, repeated hallelujah shout etc. Which proves that they have God's Spirit. God wants conscious human beings - not unconscious, half-fainted and knocked out individuals that lie on the floor kicking their legs and writhing in ecstatic laughter. The devil is an expert on debauched experiences, while the Bible says that "all things be done decently and in order!" It is Jesus Christ and Biblical truth that will set us free, and give a true revival, and not emotional mass gatherings.
TRANSFORMATION - TRUE REVIVAL
There are many kinds of revivals. A true revival happens when we say yes to Jesus. Then we will receive the Holy Spirit as a power source in our lives, and it will do something with us. There will be a reform, a change, a transformation in our minds and in our lives. It will mean that we do not let the self prevail, that we say no to lust of the flesh and the world pleasures and temptations - and yes to the Spirit. Carnal sinful nature we will have with us as long as we live here on earth, but we should not let it control our minds. We must let the Holy Spirit enter our minds so that we may be partakers of the divine nature. And we will be partakers of the divine nature as long as we stay close to Jesus and do His will.
When we let the Spirit control our minds, we will turn away from impurity, cheating, parasitism, fornication, lust and everything that has to do with sin. We will no longer love the world desires, but to Christ and what He stood for in life and learning. We will get a new mind, new purposes and new motives. People will see that there has been a change in our lives. Fruit of the Spirit will appear in our lives, such as love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, etc. It happens in other words, a character change in our lives. We will be happy to let Jesus be represented in our daily lives and not take part in the pleasures and its desires. This we can not do alone, but in our efforts to resist the temptations of Satan and live for Christ, we can unite our weakness with Jesus strength. That's the kind of revival and transformation Jesus and the Bible talks about, which is something completely different than on command, hypnotic repetitions of words, ecstatic and uncontrolled laughter and so.
When the reverse is to know Jesus and the unlimited love He has shown us - to save us, then becomes a love Jesus dearly. He / she wants to be a disciple of Jesus, and by the Holy Spirit guidance, try to help others on the path to heaven.
Dear reader! Remember that even if you feel ever so unworthy to come to God in humility and prayer - even though we have never fell so deep, so Jesus stands there as the father of the prodigal son with outstretched arms and will receive us, so true we repent of our sins and turn. If you still doubt whether Jesus accepts you, then remember His own words: "Whoever comes to me I will never cast out." This is Jesus, so is His love for the creature.
THEY WILL PREACH A RIGHT BIBLICAL MESSAGE
Those who have humbled themselves before God, repented, accepted Jesus' salvation by faith, received forgiveness of sins, taken baptism and by God's grace received the Holy Spirit as a source of life, will also go out with a straight Biblical message.
They will preach that Jesus is the only one who can save us, and it depends on you and me if we will accept this gift of salvation by grace through faith.
They will preach that if we forget to keep us close to Jesus - and sins, God will see us as righteous if we wholeheartedly repent of our sins and accept the gift of salvation.
They will preach that just as Jesus, who came to earth as a degenerated man, had to draw strength from God to overcome any temptation, so we too can - with God's help - overcome any temptation that meets us.
They will preach that God is love, and that "the love of God is that we keep His commandments; and his commandments (not the catechism, but what Jesus and the apostles taught and preached) is not heavy. "
They will preach that Jesus was one with the Father. He was God. He was the Creator. He came "in likeness of sinful flesh." His divinity was clothed with humanity. He came in human nature. Through 4000 years humans had decreased in physical strength, mental strength and moral worth; and Christ took on the weaknesses of the degenerate humanity. "He was tempted in all points as we are, yet without sin." Only in this way could He save us.
They will preach that if we have a wholehearted surrender to Jesus Christ, we will "be partakers of the divine nature" - by His Spirit.
They will preach that we can have all the power we need (by the Spirit of God) not to sin, and that "Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin, because God's seed remains in him. He can not sin, because he is born of God. "
They will preach that transformation in our lives must happen now, before Jesus returns, so we must be clean and ready when Jesus comes again in the clouds of heaven. For "nothing unclean shall enter into it, and no one who practices abomination and lying, but only those who are written in the book of life of the Lamb."
Do you doubt that Jesus can help you not to sin in any temptation? As we keep ourselves to Him, and has an increasingly associated with Jesus which branch to the trunk, we will get the help we need not to sin ...... When you hear this being preached?
A SALVATION MESSAGE AND A WARNING MESSAGE
But dear reader! It is important that we place ourselves on the side of Jesus now, so that we can get the Spirit of God, and join the last movement. His staff will go out with, just before Jesus returns. We are also strongly advised to go out false religious systems and revivals, so we should not take part in their apostasy and sins. Will you accept the challenge and join? Remember that those who place themselves on the side of Jesus has the strongest on his side. Jesus says: "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth, go ye therefore" ....
Let's take a conclusion: We must be aware that the charismatic movement is a global movement, a movement that is seeking to unite the world under false manifestations, a movement that unfortunately is one of the means that Satan uses to collect "Christendom "and different religions into one. Protestants that have thrown off the shield of faith, will - along with Catholics and worldly people indiscriminately - unite in this last time. Satan will strengthen his cause by seducing them all into the camp of spiritualism. Many will regard this alliance as a great movement that will convert the world and usher in the long-awaited Millennium. This will be a fulfillment of Bible prophecy, which tells about how the world will gather through spiritualism and we see the prelude to this fulfillment now.
May we all ask ourselves wholly on the side of Jesus, so that we can get the Holy Ghost. Only then can we be able to discern what is falsehood and what is right. Only then can we be ready when Jesus comes again soon. May you and I be among them!