This has also been a learning process as Torp and I stand for two extremities not only doctrinal basis of the word of God. But also as individuals. Torp's "world" is completely different than mine. And my "world" is totally different than his. My subjective experience of him is that he is cynical, manipulative basically. But emerging as a smiling and partly intellectual, without being there at all. But okay, how am I? I know of course not to the fullest, no one knows. But I'm basically very different from Torp then I obviously have a completely different experience of being human. Is enough in this context for the gullible and naive, when "psychopath" playing a game that one does not notice until it's gone for a while. But, but, no harm done. Just learned something more, all glory to God and to the Lamb!
Torp loves to attack everything and everyone, thereby hiding behind it. I attack first my flesh, when I have won the victory there, so I move on. Am I better than Torp? No no means, but I go Word and obedience path with God, while Torp driver a cabal which basically is a journey not with God, but in opposition and rebellion to God. He is like Nimrod as we read in Genesis 1 10. One who is in opposition to God and God's plans, not least in regard to marriage.
In fact the last month. I have gone from some major questions to a very loud and clear answers. When Torp Reviewed me for 1 1/2 months. since I took this seriously and into me. Something that is natural for a fresh and healthy human (though the accusation is false and comes from a "psychopath").
(Just want to disclose when we use such expressions as power human psychopath and others. So that is my experience of the person concerned, there is only one doctor who can make such diagnoses and put it on him that this is a case of disease. Something like the big psychopaths go free, but the smaller and small get caught up and get the diagnosis.)
Picture of the Bible, that all this basically is about.
I've never been distressed or confused, for I know that this is basically an "allowed" attacks on me and my service of Satan. Torp living in adultery is an adulterer and is on its way towards destruction when he is not living in accordance with God's word. Therefore I have shown from day one that it is not God who controls Torp.
But first I saw this any different then the police were "stupid" enough to take Torp seriously. But okay, they did their job. He delivered the review which is also directly against God's word. But Torp is not saved, and follow of course not the word of God, where God's words contradict his carnality. He is a child of darkness, and walketh in darkness by God's word. Jesus said of such that the father was the devil in the spirit realm, the source of their life is not of God, pure and delightful source.
How did I do?
With clear deicing but I was "stupid" enough to take Torp seriously, but okay, I'm a normal and healthy person and react with respect to dignitaries as police are.
But eventually I saw inside myself, which was the opposite one at Torp. Torp was just more and more rogue for me. He has of course been the whole time, but I turned against a Christian brother? Ne, but a psychopath and human power (I see him like that) that make up the use of all means if it goes completely against God's word. Just to stop me and get the celestial blog shut down and removed.
I have tried to keep the Bible's teaching on divorce - marriage - remarriage.
Torp bungle it all to hang on to everything else as bullying, defamatory, libelous, harassing, online slander and all other nonsense. The last was that he blended into Mina Hadjian. And she wore for the first 10 times stronger wording than me and missed in his attack on Torp when he does not live "abnormal" in terms of what is "normal" in Norway where it is starting to become like Jesus said what:
Luke 17. 26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark; flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise - as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought and sold, they planted, they built; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained God fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all - 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
Notice in verse 27, "they married wives, they were given in marriage."
Torp stands for that which is "universally" accepted today, but the word of God is here directly in the "throat" of today's men and call today people who do this for adulterers and adulteresses. At Torp now doing as a spokesman for this I have already written about. First he fought against the homosexuals, the affected have, now he fights vehemently fight against me claiming that remarriage is a sin for a Christian, and he as a public person, it is especially bad to do this when he is a role model and a example.
But basically, Torp playing a game where he thinks he gets away with this, but he does not.
1. Tim. 5. 24 Some men's sins are visible to all and going before them to judgment, in others they follow after. 25 Likewise also the good works visible, and they are not, they will come to light.
Today Heg much different in this "battle". It is won by Jesus 2000 years ago at Calvary, I can rest safe in the bosom of the Father unlike Torp that needs flurry and hold on. He lives after all of fornication!
Here is an example where I tried to talk Torp facilitate not engage in review.
I write this: On 24 September 2014 kl. 20.50 wrote Jan Kåre <firstname.lastname@example.org>:
I am appalled by such communication. I always hear by others. But when someone turns about 180 degrees without notice, and will report to the police myself, I shall be displeased.
What is wrong is what I have done to you? Are you sure I'm wrong, that you must be, so ignore it?
Last you wrote was: All good wishes to you and yours!
And what does God's word?
1 Cor. 6 1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more in temporal things! 4 If then ye have judgments of things, set them to judge who are contemptible thing in the church! 5 For shame I speak it. So there is not a wise man among you, not a single one who can judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before unbelievers! 7 It's already at a loss for you, that you have lawsuits against each other. Why suffer ye do wrong? why stand ye do harm? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren! 9a Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived!
And get this answer of the false apostle Torp:
24th September 2014 kl. 9:00 p.m. wrote Jan-Aage Torp <email@example.com>:
You conducts public sake of the people of God like no other, Jan Kåre. I stretched out a hand in April 2012, but you get worse and worse.
I have chosen today to take a significant step, offering you a proper chat under supervision. If you reject this, I will take the next serious step.
Let's meet in Mediation. There we can not hide behind the few things and it will get much good and healthy out of it.
We get letters from Mediation. I await your response to these. It'll take just a few weeks, I guess. We heard once this is done.
The false apostle January Aage Torp got this question by Rune spell in Searchlight:
Rune Wed, 10/22/2014 6:52 that said:
Reminds you of these words brothers and sisters in the faith.
Lawsuits between Christians
6When one of you has a case against another, how can he dare to put it before the unjust, and not for the saints? 2 Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world? But when ye shall judge the world, why regrettably you not to judge small matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? Can you not judge in earthly affairs? 4 And when you have such cases, why are you to judge people who do not have confidence in the church? 5 This is a shame for you! Is there not a single sane among you who can sort out the issues between the brothers? 6 No, brother goeth to law with brother, and that before judges who are not believers. 7 The fact that you have lawsuits against each other, is in itself a defeat for you. Why suffer ye do wrong? Why not rather suffer loss? 8 But you do wrong, and let others suffer losses - even siblings. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Neither the sexually immoral, those who worship idols or the adulterers, nor men who lie with men or who allow themselves to be with, 10 neither thieves, greedy, drunkards, revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you before. But now you are washed, you are made holy, you are made righteous in the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
The false apostle Torp replies
Jan-Aage Torp Wed, 22/10/2014 9:26 that said:
I see Runes reminder of litigation between troessøsken. Thanks for this important reminder, Rune!
When it comes JKC is not possible, because JKC is not included in any forum on this earth where Christians are under common leadership and accountability.
I took a first step towards JKC in April 2012 by bringing my accuser before him, primarily his mauling of Emanuel Minos, and I also mentioned andt conditions. This happened in a friendly tone of a coffee cup.
So I let it go 2 1/2 years before I did anything more. I have been extremely patient and given him a long time to temper and repent. But instead he deteriorated, possibly encouraged by the "anti-divorce"-cancer who have used him as a "useful idiot" to reinforce a message they do not even dare to lift up ....
How would I ultimately bring forward an accusation against JKC? Faced with his wife & Ingwersen?
JKC is not in a church, even though he & his wife calls his site and housing for "Smyrna". This is at best a private initiative.
A man who could be a valuable and wise "broker" is undoubtedly 89-year-old Emanuel Minos, but he is despised and harassed by JKC.
So we are in an emergency situation where I had no choice but to report to the police JKC.
I remind you that I only report him for violating four articles of the Criminal Code regarding bullying, defamation, personal harassment and online defamation.
At the more severe conditions is becoming a part of this case, is not my merit, but JKC is a lot to answer for the future ....
But Torp also writes here that he Contributor others before me, and the case was dismissed if they live in a different world than me in phraseology. They are completely beyond even my language which I only use bible quotes.
This type Torp on others he has reviewed:
In 2010 I reviewed the Manglerud Police a case where the four months were encouraged publicly on Facebook to mutilation and murder of me, "I hope that a reasonable person one day cut his bit for bit, break bones for legs." The case was dismissed, and this has fueled lunatics who conduct online slander and harassment so Christensen person engages in - no later than today.
I think well actually that police should set this 2010 case. The same people alive and well, and still writes the same, but now on a Facebook page that is blocked for me.
I write this in Searchlight:
January k Wed 22/10/2014 10:46 that said:
Torp you live in adultery by the font.
You have submitted a false police report when this is about a religious and doctrinal issues.
Your whole appearance bears witness to a man with a huge ego.
And all you allege has actually nothing to do with Norwegian law when we have freedom of religion and freedom of speech here in Norway.
(end of quote).
I'd like Hedding this article follows "A journey inside yourself!".
Looking at Torp then a frightened, if one thinks Torp as a Christian and Pastor. He runs with heresy (should write an article about this), fornicators and to the police people. Outside of that the little I know, fleas he people for money if they come to Oslo church. A poor bachelor was fleeced of everything he owned and had, Torp got 1.5 Mill.
The first wife left him and remarried. The kids went public and warned against their manipulative and boorish father for what was in A Magazine Spring 2011.
Here an excerpt from Day
Stories of torture similar camp activities in Christian auspices of the past, says Andreas Hegertun. He reads with grief Anders Torp their experiences.
Aftenposten and A magazine had Friday big spread to the son of Pastor Jan-Aage Torp in Oslo Church, Anders Torp. Anders has left his father's church, declared atheist and very critical to the business, he as a child and youth participated in the Christian auspices. He has told his story, most recently in a new edition of Levi Fragell book, "We who loved Jesus."
Anders Torp tells of how he as a 13-year-old fasted for 40 days, which made him terribly thin and poor. He also tells of a camp in Denmark under the auspices of the church Father's house, where the participants were to experience what it was like to live under oppressive regimes. They were drilled not to deny the faith. Drill No consisted of punches and kicks, be kept under water as you thought you drowned, being shoved sand down your throat and make fake identity cards. Anders Torp says he several times thought he was going to die.
The book tells Torp that exorcism was naturally part of the activity in the communities he grew up in. He was also exposed to this even when he was a teenager. A total of 17 expulsions were carried out at him in a short time.
Anders Torp tells us about a childhood marked by fear of hell and damnation, a constant fear of sinning, not to witness enough for the body and sexuality.
Oslo Church has been loosely associated with the Pentecostal movement in Norway. Pastor at Philadelphia in Oslo, Andreas Hegertun, knows Anders Torp well, he knows his history.
- I have a burning desire to be absolutely clear that this Anders tells about is the extreme environments that do not have anything with the Pentecostal Charismatic I know. Jan-Aage Torp's was on the fringes of the church landscape, he says.
- I read with sadness Anders their experiences. He had every right to respond. No one shall be subjected to such.
Hegertun adding that he is glad that today there are very few who experience such things as Anders Torp experienced.
- It does not reflect the reality of Christian young people face today.
(end of quote).
After that I settled down and got "peace" again, my life and ministry is as brilliant, lovely and good. I have a wife who is faithful towards me and I her. Keeps me to the word of God and have their own income and everything is just brilliant, delightful and well. Three lovely children and everything is just sore well!
Will write for now one last article and then whether Torp's theology or doctrine, something that has not been so high. When it comes Torp otherwise I have the clear understanding that here meets a psychopath Torp, and the apostate Christian when he lives in God's word. What does he do? Does not God's words to heart, to reflect, act and repent. But playing things out to meet me and to the police even if it is unfounded and actually false accusation. It has no basis in reality when I'm miles within its what is allowed to come by in relation to freedom of religion and freedom of expression, and above all, I hold up the biblical teachings about marriage!
2 Cor. 10. 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh; 4 for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds, 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, 6 and readiness to punish all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
Torp live in an opposite game than what a Christian should do. Are we in trouble we will primarily examine ourselves, there is something in my life that is not consistent with God's word? Something that I did and do. And so we take every thought captive to the obedience of God's word. Secondly, put everything before God in prayer with thanksgiving. So the next step is to follow God's word. But what do Torp? Exact opposite. He does not take into God's word and breaks up the relationship he lives today where he lives in an invalid marriage according to God's word. Then the trouble. For my part, I am absolutely totally at ease with the situation, this is something God has permitted. Then I may just take it as it comes, and put everything in the Lord's hands. And you as a believer, pray for me, my ministry and family. And pray also for Torp, he must, if possible, find repentance and living single the rest of his life as God's word says.
January Aage Torp comes with hard outcomes against most, but I do not know about so many other pastors and other so-called believers who have inflicted so much suffering like him. Is there a traumatic childhood, or what is it? I do not know and do not know either, but something I have learned here. There are important rules etc. but stands a facing a psychopath, forget everything that has rules and everything else. The psychopath is dangerous, he needs help. If he has any laws for or against it, it really means nothing. What matters is to shield these people really from others. So they can do the least possible damage. And they do not really punishment, but treatment and love the right way.
I have imagined and supposed that this fight was about marriage, and it makes it really. But Torp is in my estimation sick (both body and mind), and then it becomes a verbal debate really wrong. It destroys many times more than it does good. But by all means, I'm not going to add years. I think the same as before, but to get a "psychopath" over as I have just received, is like getting an octopus over them. It costs a bit, but then just get a free herself, and move on in life and ministry! Now I know more how to meet even those people, you learn as long as you live!
This is where the crux is. Is there a man being walked on or is it manipulation of a "power man"? Clearly it is the latter. Here is the one that can their "subjects" and know how to exploit the situation to their advantage. Flink? No direct ugly, evil and manipulative.
My experience is not really discuss with the psychopath, he is not interested dypes seen. But before a conversation and discussion, and preach to people who want and will hear and have the message we have to get with. We all need wisdom and understanding. Ends with what Jesus said, then we must have the abilities he had, but he was also perfect, we are underway all together!
Matt. 10. 16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves; be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves
I have been silly as a dove, but wise as a serpent, but now I'm both, Hallelujah and Amen and thank goodness. All glory to God and to the Lamb!
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