mandag 17. november 2014

No. 814: In recent interview with Minos as he did not speak directly about Carl Fredrik Wisløff who made no compromise with his convictions from God's word!

No. 814:
In recent interview with Minos as he did not speak directly about Carl Fredrik Wisløff who made no compromise with his convictions from God's word!

Minos large court was that he never stood for anything themselves. He had opinions, was well-read and articulate. But this has never been successful, there are those who have stood for something and tolerated a swig that has always brought the kingdom of God on. Here Minos fell through and through. Books and reading "savior" not without it being a part of us. "The Word became flesh" scripture says.
Photo by Carl Fredrik Wisløff who stood for what he preached and taught.


From recent interview with Minos in magazine view:
But as in any other life, there are people who put extra deep slot. I wonder if there are some that stand out.

- It must be Lewi Pethrus and Professor Carl Fredrik Wisløff. Pethrus I knew for over 40 years, since I was quite young and up until his death. He was a very special man. So open to the Spirit of God, and yet so healthy and earthy.

Wisløff I met around 1980. We should have a talk in the Christian broadcasting impact on our relationship to Scripture. We both had written the speech in advance and read out each of our. Afterwards asked the Chair if we had sat at the same desk. So like our attitude to Scripture. This was the start of a friendship that lasted just until Wisløff death. We experienced to agree on almost everything. The major exception was the view of baptism.
(end of quote).
I contacted Carl Fredrik Wisløff think it was 1990 and he asked about divorce and remarriage, and he was crystal clear. Remarriage for believers was sin. And from what I've read me regarding Carl Fredrik Wisløff, he was a man of action who stood for what he preached, even though it cost. Minos baket always out, even though he thought and thought of something else ?!

By Carl Fredrik Wisløff

"You wives! Be their men subordinate to the Lord! For a husband is head of his wife just as Christ is head of the congregation. - Husbands! Love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for this func-. "Eph 5, 22-33

The word of God has something to say to real people. We must accept what is said and remember that it really is a word from God. It speaks not a past time "patriarchal" relationship. No, here speaks the words of God.

One thing we should note first of all. It is very important that the wives and men receive the word to them. You could say it this way: word to the wives are the wives' letter; it shall be read. And in the same way with men: They'll read his letter.

When it is said that the wives should be subordinate to their husbands, as it is a word to them. There is not a word that men shall use against wives: It says that you must obey me! There has been too much of such all time.

However, it is clear that God means what he says. There is a divine plan that the man should be the head. As Christ is the head of the church, a man will be his wife's head.

For men, the Bible has a word that is certainly not less requirements fully: They should love their wives as Christ loved the church. - How Christ loved the church? So he died for it. Stronger it can not well be said that man's duty is to love and serve, and give himself for his wife and his family. He shall be the head, but he provides no means a right to be tyrant and dictator. And when something is hard, when something must be sacrificed and forsaken, he is the one who has the duty on to this.

This has not always been remembered! But imagine if we all took to us these words from the Bible! Then there was not a lot of prestige. When was the willingness to serve and sacrifice. It is a divine wisdom in the Bible about spouses' duties and responsibilities towards each other. As so often went wrong in marriages, was the reason most often on the word of God was forgotten.

Luther has taken these passages in the Catechism along with the words to the children and servants. Over Bible places he puts a little verses:
When each their Word of God will learn, as it stands well in the house.
(end of quote).

Balaam's way

By Mikkel Vigilius.

God has given us all three chapters of the Bible the prophet Balaam. Overall, he mentioned about 60 times in the biblical writings. He presented as a cautionary example for the people of God at all times. Both Peter (2 Pet 2:15) and Judah (v. 11) warns us not to turn into Balaam's way. It is the road to apostasy.

What was Balaam's sin? Basic consisted in that he neglected God's simple and clear words to achieve personal gain. It's soul-searching to see how it happened. It happened in small steps, almost imperceptibly, but none the less disastrous. The pagan king Balak sends messengers to Balaam to get him to curse Israel, 4 Mos 22 delegates promises him a good salary if he does, and Balaam is obviously tempted. But God came in a dream and gives him a clear message: "Do not go with them! Do not curse the people: for they are blessed ", 4 Mos 22.12.

Nevertheless takes Balaam days after the first step into disobedience way. He will not directly defy God. That he dares not. But he will not like an obedient prophet bow to God's word, making himself one with the authority and assert it to others. His answer to Balak's messengers reads: "Go to your land, for the Lord will not let me go with you", 4 Gen 22:13.

Balaam does not let envoy-one be in any doubt that he is on their side. He could well understand them, and personally he would like to follow them, but the Lord will unfortunately not let him do it!

What Christian does not know the temptation to speak in this way? Preachers face the temptation constantly. Much of what we say, arouse resistance among our listeners. It is difficult to speak of God's wrath and to call sinners to repentance. It is hard to give true biblical guidance in matters where God's words seem out of touch with contemporary attitudes. We note not only a critical reaction from without, but from within - from our own hearts and feelings. What is more natural than to express it in our preaching: "I understand you well! I feel the same way! I also think it is unfair and unjust. I simply can not bear it. If it were me, it would be completely different! But God has sadly said ... "

What happens when we say such things? We get a win! We avoid the reluctance message turns against ourselves. We may appear as warm-hearted, good and sensitive people. So it may well be that our audience turn against God and His Word, but we are free! Our listeners understand that we do not even care about what God says! We think it is too hard. We have a better, more affectionate heart than God!

Yes, we achieve a big win, but our audiences are paying a big price. They miss the meet God as he is! The God who unites the sacred rigor and eternal love, in a way that surpasses our understanding and can not be contained by our emotions. The God who speaks both law and gospel, and believe both! The God, one can not discuss, but bends for giving him right, and thereby saved! It is this God we are called to let people meet in our preaching. Are we doing it? Or we speak so apologetic about the nature of God and the will that we indirectly legitimize the flesh dislike of him, giving the impression that it is a common human reaction? If so, we become gudsopprørets defenders!

As the prophet Balaam was calling to make himself one with the word of God and to preach it to Balak's emissaries throughout their provoking serious. It could have cost him dearly, but it could also have led to repentance. Now he departed outside, protected himself and stood in the practice of their listeners' side - against God.

The teachings we should stop this is not that we do not have to feel with our audience and preach with tears. On the contrary! It did Jesus, Luke 19.41; Jn 11.36. But his tears were not an expression of his own inner reaction to the word of God. They were an expression of a sincere need for those who would not hear the word of God and repent!

The point is not that we must be honest with ourselves and God about our feelings of resentment and pain of having to preach the offensive and judgmental aspects of God's word. Jeremiah was hudløst and liberating honest in this area, Jer 20.7 to 18. But it was not something he took up in his preaching to the unconverted! In preaching, he made himself one with the word, and consequently experienced as the other true prophets and apostles, that the resentment against God directed towards him. As David puts it: "Meg has hit the blasphemy of those who revile you," Psalm 69.10.

This is the condition for any true preacher of God's word. How much hiding and how much resentment Paul could not have avoided if he had spoken to Balaam? But he did not, and precisely thereby met people through his words of the living God! In the story of Balaam, we hear further that Balak sends other more distinguished delegates departed with promises to Balaam an ample payment if he will curse Israel. There is so far no news at their request, and Balaam has once been God's clear and simple answers. But it is distinguished guests coming, and they speak about a very great reward. On this basis, corresponding Balaam: "But now being here tonight, that I may know what more the Lord has to say to me", 4 Mos 22.19.

Balaam know the reason well what God thinks. He heard and understood it quite clearly the first time. But in the same degree he looks toward the possibility of being recognized among the nobles and achieve great financial reward, he seems at gaining unfair that this road is closed for him. Even before he spoke to God, he has convinced himself that God must have something more to say than it is simple and clear: NO!

Who does not know this temptation? The desire to get God's word to say anything other than it actually does, then the way is opened to what we want. The temptation gets double serious when it comes to a minister in relation to the doctrine he should convey to others. The cost to stick to the Bible simple and clear words, especially at the point where it is contrary to the spirit and to what others want us to say. There may be as futile and pointless just to stand firm and continue to say the same thing and see that more and more are turning away from us, and that more and more doors closed again for us. What causes it? Conversely, we envision that so much would be easier for us, and many opportunities would open up if only we could get a "new view" of things. It's not because we want to override and provide Bible as the norm and authority. We understand ourselves as Bible-believing, and we would like to continue with. But the more we look at the possibilities, the more grows Balaam thinking himself strong in our minds, and gradually we become convinced that it is actually possible to get God to say something more than what he once said!

There are many serious and introspective sides of Balaam story. But by far the most serious is that God gives Balaam the answers he wants! Balaam know the truth, but he will not know the God who says no! He will have another god, a god who says yes. And he gets it! God gives him over to lie and let him believe what he will. He tells him that he is allowed to go with those who want him to curse Israel.

Balaam is happy. He gets what he wants! Now the path is open, and he is fond of the place. But he has God against themselves - without even knowing it! A donkey gets his rescue from God's avenging angel of death, 4 Mos 22.23. Two places in the Old Testament, we meet the same shocking and penetrating statements about God: "With the pure you show yourself pure, against the false show you wrong", 2 Sam 22.27; sml. 18.27.

If we go to God's word with a goal of getting God to say something other than what we've already heard and acknowledged as truth, then we built on falsehood way. Then God can deal with us that he acted with Balaam. He depicts himself, and let us hear what we want. He gives us over to lie. This is exactly how God will act in recent times, says Paul. Over those who have not accepted the "love of the truth," God will send strong delusion "that they should believe a lie:" 2 Thessalonians 2.10 to 11. Something worse can hardly imagine: to see the lie as truth and have God against them - without even knowing it!

Balaam continued disobedience road and ended as a blatant deceiver, 4 Mos 25; Rev. 2.14. But the path began with these small and almost imperceptible steps: unwillingness to make himself one with God, and insincerity in access to God's word. May God preserve us from Balaam's way and hold us in a sincere and obedient relationship with his word!
(end of quote).

Here an article about Minos who failed to speak about remarriage:
Ranked #. 211: Our Land 30. 07. 2008. Debate Post
Emmanuel Minos - An imposter?

This is taken from the Sound Mission and much of what I would otherwise have signed opinion pieces have been lost when I have been shut out of all Christian debates I've been involved in since I keep up all the word of God and all truths. Be it the newspaper's Day, Our Country, Victory Cross (now KS) or others! Talk about Christian democracy, it is ruled by undemocratic and controlling people, sad but true!

Commented by Evangelist: Ove Ludvigsen January.

Emmanuel Minos was asked on Vision Norway by the couple Hallman from Sweden about: It is right and lawful for a minister to be divorced and married again.
Comment: Should be no problem with giving a clear answer to the question!

To this he replied that he would not answer as it was too difficult to answer.

Comment: It is difficult to get them to believe that the question is difficult to answer, the Bible has a clear voice, what divorce and remarriage is!

In my judgment, as required really only a yes or no, and no is the biblical answer.

Comment: One has to agree with Jan Kåre Christensen, the Bible gives no consent gjengifting after a divorce. Emmanuel Minos would have given a clearer answer to this question, a little more rich and eventful, rewarding content. Comments in brackets: (Consider that Emmanuel Minos said: One man for one woman - or was it the opposite? One woman for one man.) Anyway there are obviously the marriage to work, no more neither one or the other way .

Is not Emmanuel Minos then with and legalize sin, and he is not fit to be a preacher when he is unable to respond to such elemental important topic

Comment: What is the reason, why not Emmanuel Minos replied neither a "YES" or "NO?" Is not easy to answer, therefore it can be somewhat difficult to take a definite position on the matter. Therefore, it is also difficult to determine whether he is fit to be a preacher or not, but he should at least have given a clear answer. "YES" or "NO! "Would be too far to walk, if one says that he is not fit to be a preacher, he is after all the brightest of Pentecostal preachers surviving in this time.

Our Land 30. 07. 2008. Debate Post: Jan Kåre Christensen.

Final comment:
It felt strange that Minos time after time always refrained from speaking about marriage - divorce and remarriage. Something that certainly not Carl Fredrik Wisløff did. It was not only the baptism so different, but mostly otherwise.
At least when it came to the couple. Emanuel Minos departed always away from the right way, unlike Carl Fredrik Wisløff who stood for what he believed and believed in!

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