torsdag 9. juni 2016

No. 1243: Jan Aage Torp is no Christian!

No. 1243:
Jan Aage Torp is no Christian!

We are in many ways come to an end with Jan Aage Torp at the Heavenly blog !!!
Except it is surely a lawsuit between us Borgating Court of Appeal, hopefully!

What I write is not about hate to do, but to protect those people who Torp has destroyed.
But most important, it will probably other narreapostler and psychopaths in among the believers. Torp will not be the last, when will a book like this is what I have found to be of great help and blessing!

Next step I could have wished for was to write a book about Torp, where also his relationship with his children is affected and is seen in the context of his struggle against child protection. For this is one of the roughest I have ever seen regarding hypocrisy. Torp should not have been allowed to stated philosophy itself regarding child welfare, this is an abuse of our freedom when he is fighting fortunate to have escaped child protection. For had shown what one knows today, so I'm pretty sure that the couple Torp had never been brought up kids. Not the two together, perhaps Ann-Christin alone with help and supervision? But Jan Aage Torp? Never, unfit guaranteed! Therefore in January Aage Torp morbid urge to attack child welfare at all hours!

Jan Aage and Ann-Christin now called Ann-Christin Düring Woll, was so inadequate as parents it is well possible to be? Here it should have been retroactive effect where these two should have paid compensation to their children ??

And Jan Aage Torp flea this Serb approx 1.5 Million should also by court have paid back this money that he got from a rather ill person.

Yes, a book I should have written there Jan Aage Torp's double standards also should I included. He attacks the homosekuelle and they want to be removed from society. But he himself can happily remarry even though God's word says this is untrue. Here there is so much hypocrisy, hypocrisy, child abuse, manipulation and more. That Manglerud police are doing is so bad that even the police's Korea emerges as "geniuses" and skilled in relation to this Polti which in my eyes defends a criminal, and then one must also count this is criminal law? How I see it!

Photo of the so-called hate groups on Manglerud as Jan Aage Torp has to wonder roll around with their dirty game and manipulative behavior. Jan Aage Torp is obviously criminal way he behaves towards his own family. As well as his fictional Review opposite behind prevention and to act against hate crime online. But here they work 120% of hate crimes by standing behind January Aage Torp and all his actors as one stands on evil and hated side accepted the good and light side!

We will pray as Jesus did on the cross:

Luke 23. 34a Jesus said, `Father, forgive them! for they know not what they do.

From v. Inspector Monica Lille Bakken, police officers Stian Barmo and Lena Fjalestad and police attorney Oda Karterud.



Jan Aage Torp writes on his blog about something that is so extreme that even the world's people are not doing so. That he "somehow" has understood something is completely beyond! Torp's revelations is essentially the "madness!"

Straight afterwards adds his daughter out an article on Debate which only tells one thing, Jan Aage Torp is so far away from the Christian faith and learn it is possible to get, even Gentiles are not as bad as Jan Aage Torp.

It is as it says in Ezekiel 5 5 Thus saith the Lord God: This city, Jerusalem, I have put in the midst of the nations and laid the countries surrounding it. 6 But the people there rebelled against my laws and were more wicked than the other nations; they defied my statutes more than the countries around. For they rejected my laws and did not follow my decrees. 7 Thus says the Lord God: You have raged worse than the nations around YOU. For my statutes you have not followed, and my judgments have you not kept. You have not even lived by the laws Neighbour their people have. 8 Thus says the Lord God: Behold, now I come against you. I will execute judgments in you while the other folks watching. 9 Because you have done so much ugly, I will do to you something that I have not done and never will do. 10 Therefore the fathers among you eat their children, and children will eat their parents. I hold judgment with you, and they then become again, I spread to the four winds.

Here God says that waive completely, they have sunk further down than the Gentiles. Verse 10 we see the demise of apostasy that now unfortunately going in Jan Aage Torp's family and then also Apostasy perfectly: "That is why parents among you eat their children, and children will eat their parents. I hold judgment with you, and they then become again, I spread to the four winds. "

I can write and write about Torp, it does not end then here comes the new revelations on a conveyor belt. But I will stop here and only the comments of Jan Aage Torp his daughter who writes about his father and growing up with him. This I have posted once before, and you can read it here:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/05/no-1228-many-criticized-me-to-warn.html

Deep thinking is Jan Aage Torp and Ann-Christin criminals if we are to be assumed for what has emerged through his children. I would not wish my worst enemy that children should grow up under such conditions there if they speak in tongues as they loved. If they do not, then they are not loved. How could I have still. Therefore Becomes January Aage Torp its fight against child protection completely incomprehensible. He should really have been soul happy, he and Ann-Christin was so little present for their children on their terms that I have hurt by it on behalf of children. Torp's struggle for children are so misguided. It is as if a pedophile fighting for children's rights, there is of course a total contradiction of the very worst kind!

What else writes today - is really just the same as I have written. Then it is completely insane that the police want me punished really doing a good deed that was needed. Much more required than any of us really would think was possible!

Comments on the article on Debate, where everyone is saying the same things I have written and spoken. As police want me convicted, this is harassment and persecution of Christianity +++ much more like the police are doing:

Oddbjørn Johannessen

Thank you for a strong and courageous posts. It is heartbreaking to read about this kind of childhood experiences. No child should experience such a thing! Good luck in life.

Tove S. J Magnussen

Being the first to recognize / reveals the violence can be fatal. They are forced into something they do not understand the consequences of. Knowing entails responsibility. That some fear the situation is natural. They are often hostages unless others understand and act. This process not everyone knows something about. Now you know why no one helped you. Your mother saw it and reacted.

Knowledge about the nature are deficient in society in general and in health care in particular. A campaign is in its place. To call this Christianity is wrong. There is mental abuse and blasphemy.

Njål Kristiansen

I'm shocked! Thread Starter requested nurse and others. I have a hunch that children in Christian homes may have gone under the radar because the home was considered protected by a religion with good intentions. My call judgment suggests that CPS should have been in the picture at an early stage of development. Some of us have focused on abuse in homes with other religions. Again it turns out that Christian herd is at least as bad as the ones we really want us frabedt to be compared with.

It is an outcome against individual Christians try to appear to be very stately and elevated above others. I had sectarians in mind when I wrote that I did. This should read in continuation of debates on VD how many talks down other religions family relationships. For criticism seems to be reserved for a specific, but affect all religions or too treacherous. If you will, one can say that it is not the religious that determine or that all faiths could prove equally good. Finally, it is about ethical aspects of raising children and an assessment if one is capable of it. In some countries, we know that parents can be intimidating young. Possibly these shorter way to an authoritarian and bastant upbringing to their children but even in societies with higher age of parents sees the same movement in which terrorize their children. I am horrified that children treated that way.

Pål Georg Nyhagen

Unfortunately things happen in an occasional Christian environment that radically abolishes the Gospel they claim to identify with. So get to wonder how and why this happens. It happens at Muslims, and it happens with Christians. As in other communities, religious and political ones. Form and innhoild are so intimately connected and identified with management's descriptions that challenging and vital to belive it all disappears. But the "right" mask, then look no what is happening until it is too late. But then it's too late. Man increases, and are also given authority. And from here to there being authoritarian is way scary card for more.

But a genuine authority is the one who possess expertise, insight, experience and can make room for others. In the knowledge that God does not need neither soldiers, watchmen or lawyers.

Misplaced and misguided respect for individual managers and the Word of God leads unfortunately to the abuse of power, and a number ruler techniques so nearly gets free rein. Some leaders get too lightly built up a symbolic and social capital and power internally that actively recalled that day challenges and the living requesting reality knocks on the door.

Not least because the abuse of power becomes in the words and masks that context respects. Some identify themselves so strongly with the Gospel and the spirit that they are unable to be critical alert and conscious about the sufferer glance. People are reduced to remedy, in the name of God. God's Word ascribed such weight and authority that even Christ and human beings, here comes second. It is here when a true prophetic virtue to rise to scream out that here are underway blasphemy and abuse of the name of God clothed with the best disguises drawn from the Christian costume warehouse.

Some managers derailing criticism and unpleasant attention by inviting victims to intercede etc. to "find peace and solve what is perceived difficult". Critics need only time to see the truth and thus keeps calm in Jesus' name. A behavior and methods that cements and aggravate the whole emphatic. "Now we have sown a seed, we shall see that God will intervene to the best". HOW added lid on dangerous abuse of power, as tier one down criticism, and so invisible makes you the one who suffers and is prone to misery. For who would rise against God and here suggest other solutions in this environment where God and prayer already established part of the linguistic power culture? And not seldom trump remark that puts stop for any such thing, "Think that Christians can appeal to this way and talk like that about each other." All those who are not so familiar to the subject matter stands usually with automatic response behind authority the interpretation, thus quickly after that. Whoever controls the language and interpretations have also power.

In protest against the abuse of power and the subtle destruction of fellow humans in God's name should now any self-respecting and respect for the others now rise up and protest against the abuse of power and not least the conflict shyness and cowardice internally that characterizes some Christian communities. There is no sin neither being angry, protest or be critical. Rather it will be a sin for all the others around to continue and tie and further acquiesce.

Petter Kvinlaug

It is a harrowing story Christine is making here.

I do not mean that she should put a lid on its history and closing the inside, but I ask myself nevertheless question whether, to what extent, such a story belongs in a public debate. This is alredy a child care?
(End of quote).

Yes, with a well-functioning child welfare and police had in January Aage Torp been caged for long, long ago! Clearly, criminal, manipulative and nasty he is!

But it is

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/06/no-1242-now-is-time-that-jan-aage-torp.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1074-hatkrim-group-at-manglerud-puts.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1070-assaying-by-jan-aage-torps.html

onsdag 8. juni 2016

No. 1242: Now is the time that Jan Aage Torp resigns as "Pastor" and "apostle" before God himself will depose him!

No. 1242:
Now is the time that Jan Aage Torp resigns as "Pastor" and "apostle" before God himself will depose him!

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/06/no-1240-jan-aage-torp-revealed-by.html

Joh. Revul. 2. 2 I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I also know that you can not tolerate evil. You have tested those who call themselves apostles but are not, and you found them liars.

2 Cor. 13. 1b. After two or three witnesses shall every matter be settled.

1 Tim. 3. 1. If anyone would like to have a supervisory service, it is a valuable task he wants. 2 An overseer must not be accused of anything. He must be husband of one wife, sober, prudent, courteous, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not a drunkard or violent, but gentle, without contentiousness and lust for money. 4 He must manage his own family in a good and honorable manner, having his children. 5 If he fails to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?

Rom. 2. 21 You will teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22 You who say that one should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who are so proud of the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law. 24 It is written the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.

God's words "shotguns" against Jan Aage Torp as unfit to be Shepherd!

Had no plans to write more about Torp, but here it is obviously necessary when he wants to be first. We see it also in the so-called child welfare case with the Norwegian / Romanian couple. They admitted violence etc. Therefore CPS their concern not incorrect, although they certainly did not need to place children away before their parents had received a call that a lot had been put in place. But what makes Torp? Only he comes in "sun" so he can drive with quote cheating and everything else, only he is in the center as the narreisten he is! Although these cases will Torp turn "heads or tails of." Normal people had never stated philosophy about this when they had been so ashamed and sorry for having "terrorized" own children obviously!
Image of the Norwegian / Romanian couple Ruth and Marius Bodnariu from Naustdal with their children.

A family that Torp use for even coming into the center. They ran with violence, Torp did not mention this for yourself to get in the center.
Here was a case that he could promote themselves and use to hide their ugly transgression as not suited to raise children according to what has emerged through what his children has released the book and article. Here is Torp really a man that the matter between me and him which he distorts the truth. In my case, there he constantly writes the same that I have written so and so much. But that 99% is written by his fictional review is something that he absolutely proven in conjunction with other criminals did not mention, such as police Manglerud.


Torp itself should be very happy that it has only now come out which parenting he and Ann-Christin Torp had, now Ann-Christin Düring Woll. Had this been known before, so I am convinced that the CPS had not only taken the children of this couple. But they also had been punished for neglect! Then Torp's involvement nothing else than an excuse!

Jan Aage Torp wants to be first, but he is disqualified to be all that he wants to be. First and foremost that he is re-married as believers, but also because there are so many testimonies against him.
1 Tim. 3. 2 An overseer must not be accused of anything.

In Jan Aage Torp's case shotguns it into accusations, here it is overwhelming!

2 Cor. 13. 1b. After two or three witnesses shall every matter be settled.

We have his children that gives a poor image of Jan Aage Torp which it is possible to give of his own father. It is under minimum. I have not commented on what his children writes, I do not here either. Just note that this in itself is a strong testimony that Jan Aage Torp ought to have realized that his days as "Pastor" and "apostle" is over!

The strongest witness burden that Jan Aage Torp should resign as "Pastor" and "apostle" is that he accepted 1.5 Million from a Serb who he described as ill afterwards. How can such be possible? He got them to sell their apartment, secondly give ca. 1.5 Million to themselves and Oslo church. What makes Torp further? When he is confronted with this he says he should have the money for themselves that this mockery apostle he is. Moreover reviews Torp who sick, indeed worse, rather ill for the draw that here all hope is gone!

Final Comment:

I think that Jan Aage Torp as a person I have zero interest. But what he stands for, and have been able to promote themselves. Brings out their views and deceive others in tow etc. He is really a biblical phenomenon, as in negative sense. This is interesting also for the future when we find his peers among the first Christian, so he really is not anything new as a phenomenon, see here:

3 Jn. b. 9 I wrote some words to the congregation. But Diotrephes, who loves to be first there, do not want anything to do with us. 10 When I come, I will make sure he is reminded of what he has done! For he drives with malicious gossip about us. But he does not stop there. Although he refuses to receive the brothers, and when others will do it, he forbids them and puts them out of the church.
    11 My dear, do not do evil role model, but good! He who does good is of God. He who does evil has not seen God.
    12 If Demetrius has all just good to say, yes, the truth itself testifies for him. So do we, and you know that our testimony is true.

Here we meet two people, it is the evil Diotrephes and the good Demetrius.
Note that this is like a striking resemblance between me and the evil in Jan Aage Torp.

To write an article about this and really wants to publish a book about me and Jan Aage Torp? I really want, we'll see what that adds to settle and what God wants!

Will also sure to lay out some of the articles I've removed over again, when the phenomenon January Aage Torp is very informative and interesting if he days that publicly proclaims is obviously spoke! He is and remains to be extreme, unscriptural and self-centered. Everything revolves around him, not Jesus or anyone else.

It is this that is a classic example of a dummy last, a false apostle and an unfit Pastor, and obviously also Father about this comment I do not!

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1074-hatkrim-group-at-manglerud-puts.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1070-assaying-by-jan-aage-torps.html

tirsdag 7. juni 2016

No. 1241: Norway 2's web roll, Ansgar Braut with his "fake" names. Torodd Fuglesteg writes against me because they really hate themselves!

No. 1241:
Norway 2's web roll, Ansgar Braut with his "fake" names. Torodd Fuglesteg writes against me because they really hate themselves!

Picture of the largest distribution network roll Torodd Fuglesteg which ia have written endlessly with hate speech on the nefarious website Searchlight welcomed me and my family along with Norway's other major networks roll, Ansgar Braut.

After what I experience so drives the two false Smyrna blog in together, which is a continuous uthengning place of me and my family!


We read about these types of in Scripture as these. Before they were out on the streets and created problems, today they sit behind your computer and store the same:

Acts 17 5 But the Jews discouraged, and they were joined by some of the mob in the square and made a riot that set the city in. They attacked the house of Jason and searched for them to pull them out in the crowd.

Before these were out to make trouble, today they sit behind a keyboard. They were before called hooligans, they are the same today, only behind a computer screen.

These two rioters I'm talking about, it's Ansgar Braut and Torodd Fuglesteg. But basically, that they attack me. As I really do not realize that they do. They have absolutely not one intends to achieve with this. There are aimlessly, but fundamentally. What they write about me, it's really the vision they have of themselves. Read this, what they write about me, really is that they hate everything and everyone, including himself hate the most!

Look here:

 You are grate rakende brittle and has a mental age of 8 years, Sofus alias Jan Kåre Christensen. Mental retardation, in other words.
And if you were in the Vigeland Sculpture Park so you mostly just bare skin, see today's online newspapers and what I have heard from friends today who was also there. And yes, there are some watchers and other perverted middle-aged old pigs there too.
But why evangelize on the two places where it is most topless women when, everywhere else than the two parks, are more susceptible souls? You are an old pig, Jan Kåre.

 Female cloakroom, Jan Kare? Women wear their chest all the time. Female Breast is not a garment that one hanging down in a wardrobe.
Did you really not this or have you forgotten that due to problems with his wife? This explains your need to walk only where there are topless women. Gris !!

1. One must say that it's more than strange that the two locations Sofus alias Jan Kåre Christensen has evangelized in the past, are the two places in Oslo that is most famous for its topless young girls.
And Jan Kåre has chosen evangelism on the days where the incidence of topless girls and women are at their most frequent. Random? I do not think it takes you this 53 year old fat lonely man's history and preferences into account.
But he could always have chosen evangelization his Jehovah's Witness tracts to other places where young women are more clothed and receptive to God's word. In other words; all locations other than the two places. But of all the places in Oslo and Akershus, chose words Jan Kåre the two locations with the highest rate of young woman's breasts ...... .. Evangelization, yes ... .. No.
Well knowing for those of us who are wondering where his priorities lie.

 I wonder also on the usefulness and purpose of evangelism when a fat, old man comes waddling with treaties and put them in topless young women men's eyes are about to leave the eye sockets while the female molds are nedstirret.
Perversely, is a better term than evangelization. And infinitely sad. Not to mention; Pity. Have you sinned in mind have also sinned in the flesh. Evangelism?

 You're still a criminal foreigner, Jan Kåre. And you have even written that people like you should be sent back home. So why are you in Oslo, Norway?
You are dishonest about everything. Everything !

1. Sitting one for a Saturday night and writes supportive head of themselves under false names such Christensen makes under the name Sofus, yes it is lacking ....
1. Friends
2. Added support from his family
3. A life
4. Moral and ethical values
5. A normal mental health
6. Any notion of reality
Christensen is a tragic lonely man totally without support from anyone. Ergo, he has fallen saa pitiful low that he supports himself with a false name. Which is his habit.

- Ansgar Braut
Agree with Jan Kåre: I find that there is a marginal sect, consisting of his cowed wife, the founder of extremist party The Christian and a person who supports Jan Kåre Christensen!
 It would almost be strange if there were to be found three people in this country who share JKCs phoney-Christian considerations and is as confused and disturbed like him!

With regards
Ansgar Braut Norge network roll no. 1.


Ansgar Braut Wed, 29/01/2016 at 1:22 p.m. said:

This will be the very last post I have about the Jan Kåre Christensen. I'm not going to comment on anything that relates to this more, and certainly not on his own blog.
 This circus to JKC I can not bear to spend more time. No matter what happens to appeal his, this will not be over. If it is rejected (which I believe it is), he will appeal to the Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. Where it will quickly go five years before treatment, and then he will surely post hundreds of posts about Torp and he kalller "Torp's lackeys and poodles"!

During the last eighteen months, I've probably been accused of at least 500 things that do not reflect reality of JKC! I've said it before and say it again; if I wrote the full name, I would long ago poliltianmeldt him for fake review and forgery! However, I have no interest in revealing my identity. It's not that I do not hold what I've written, but I do not want it to be hundreds of cases that are searchable on Google, where I appear together with the crazy man JKC. I can only imagine how uncomfortable it would be for my children and grandchildren to read all the horror JKC writes about me!
JKC has put forward a wide range of lies about me, yeah I see that it is actually talking about several times a day! If he does this consciously or whether he did not understand what he is doing, I can only speculate.

What characterizes almost all JKCs allegations about me is that they have no basis in reality. Most recently, he wrote that he had received mail from both me and Torodd where we admit that we stand behind Smyrna blog. Obviously, this is just a lie. There are also several clips from the spotlight that he claims was written by me, scroll Gunhild Olga for a couple of days ago. This is also a lie. He makes some assumptions, and presents them as truth. However, a lie is not the truth even if you repeat it often enough!

JKC has no any opportunity to document their claims, for the simple reason that they are not true. Thus, we can conclude that they are a LIE!

I am shocked that a man may be allowed to hold on, this way. To spread so much hatred and lies, should have been punished considerably harder than with a fine of 12,000 kr.

What is striking is that the JKC is a malicious man, a manipulator and a liar, and he accuses the rest of us to be precisely this! This means that the man is dangerous and should be protected from themselves and the outside world should be protected from him!

Thus my very last word said about JKC and everything that relates to him!

Torodd Fuglesteg
Wed 01/29/2016 at 1:39 p.m. said:

I agree with Ansgar Braut over.

JKC has written a whole series liar of me, google only. And especially; criminal and that will give JKC a punishment. And he will continue to lie, libel and fantasize about me for a long, long time when he is not quite at.

But everyone will see that JKC is totally out of mental balance and his nonsense about me coming from a mind that is not of this world. Ergo laughing only people of what he writes about me and people will continue to laugh about it. Everyone understands that he is lying about me.

I do not know if there is anything intentionally aa travel a lawsuit against JKC when everyone understands that he is a liar and not entirely by. I believe that the sentence he has received against them as web roll becomes enforceable already paa Court stage.

It can be fully worth getting Blogspot and their owners to shut down his blog / remove his blog through a petition through the court when such a matter is cheap and quick. Something I would consider beyond.

But I can not say that JKC and his lyving hurts me when everyone understands that he is not of this world and that he is not whole wood. Conversely, I have received many congratulations and pats on the back of colleagues and others in Norway who think I'm doing a good job. I've gotten a lot of praise even for a blog that I am not involved in.

JKC faar only trouble. He has no friends and no trailers. Everyone just laughs heartily he and his nonsense. Nobody believes a word of what he writes. No.



Torodd Fuglesteg
Wed, 30.01.2016 at 24:21 said:

JKC wrote:

"Both Braut and Fuglesteg are both guilty of harassment against Christensen and his family and they received their comments and emails to Jan Kåre assessed whether they are criminal."

That is exactly what they have become. Rated by the police if they are criminal or not. Police after his assessment concluded that our + Torp and Kjell Andersen their comments are not punishable. Police have considered whether your JKC, their comments are punishable. And they have concluded that they are. And such is the case.

Ansgar Braut Wed 29/01/2016 at 11:40 said:

Torodd; it is not to satisfy the cow's taste buds, they will add the oregano in coarse feed. It is for the cows should not have fewer and less powerful "winds". And that's important in these "climate crisis" - times. The bishops've stood on the barricades and preached to the east and west of this alleged "climate crisis", and then we all expect that they have God in your back? As they have in all the other strange things they think and do these dropout times.

Anyway this is well good for cows, spicy forage has to be a blessing, and less flatulence may well only make life better for them? :-)

Torodd Fuglesteg Wed 01/28/2016 at 10:55 p.m. said:

Can not we drop more updates from this madhouse, Kjell? Write rather more about why Norwegian cows faar better hotel standard in use buildings than most faar in hotels here in Ireland. Anything other than this madness.

Kjell, he FAA scream in peace and without going to the "news" about this.

Ansgar Braut
Wed, 01/28/2016 at 11:06 p.m. said:

And once you have started with cows; I read in Nationen today that researchers at the University of Aarhus had found that by adding oregano in the feed of cows, it would reduce methane emissions by 25%!

Torodd Fuglesteg
Wed, 01/28/2016 at 11:15 p.m. said:

I think it's a very good idea. Oregano in kyrforingen. Most cows already have a massage stick to massage his back with great mats of the finest quality, a good social life when they can walk around freely in the cattle shed, free access to clean water and regulate meal. This in the well-tempered barn.
Saa oregano liner fits well into this luxury.

But what does the Bible say that cows are better than most of us humans?

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/05/no-1229-now-its-public-prosecutor-in.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/05/no-1225-oslo-police-standing-on-strong.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1074-hatkrim-group-at-manglerud-puts.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1070-assaying-by-jan-aage-torps.html

No. 1240: Jan Aage Torp revealed by conducting quote cheating and hersketeknikk the value debate, he perceived only as the criminal actor he really is!

No. 1240:
Jan Aage Torp revealed by conducting quote cheating and hersketeknikk the value debate, he perceived only as the criminal actor he really is!

The problem here is that Torp has zero credibility! He should never received stated philosophy itself either in our country or any other place regarding child protection. The man is so little fit to give any statements on this question as it is possible to be!

He should no doubt have been deprived of their own children if the knowledge we have today had been available.

Then he shall hold a crusade against child welfare is only a cover for his own iniquity obviously!

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/05/no-1225-oslo-police-standing-on-strong.html

I have just quoted Jordheim, type manipulator Jan Aage Torp, it is so far from the truth it is possible to get. Here Torp undressed on Debate as the robber and criminal person he really is.
Torp itself should be very happy that it has only now come out which parenting he and Ann-Christin Torp had.

Had this been known before, so I am convinced that the CPS had not only taken the children of this couple. But they also had been punished for neglect!

Photo of the criminal Jan Aage Torp, who has managed to stoop both Oslo District Court and police Manglerud. But it is mostly the only thing he manages to fool today, otherwise he revealed in all forums he is to participate.


For the record, Torp paraphrases here a quote, and everything to make it fit into his fabricated world where he is the "big".

This is typical narcissism as a psychopath always have a lot of in!

Finally in this debate have Torp no answer, then resorted he personal attacks against something that has nothing with debate to do. All this we know from before when it comes to January Aage Torp. Nothing new under the sun right here! He attacks the priest Granerud because he has a fixed salary in the State. But these things can not do anything with debate to do, in one of Torp liar. But me lie he now that I've written so and so much about him. But 99% is written about him in the Heavenly blog, written by his fictional review of me and the Heavenly blog, again it is the liar January Aage Torp is afoot! Now he uses the amount for all that it is worth, but that it was written 99% after his fictional Review omission he and Hatpoltiet completely proven to mention. Why? Because then, the amount does not matter, talking about being a criminal!

This printer Oddbjørn Johannessen:

You have not cited Jordheim, Torp. You have omfomulert his statements to get it to fit into a enemy image - and it is indeed a dirty debate technique. To point out that, obviously not meaningless.

Jordheim wrote that is:

People can voice almost whatever they want, also on Karl Johan, but demonstrations like the one I witnessed, is a good example of how freedom of expression can also be used to do great harm. The only thing I can do about it is to use my own speech to say: The CPS is there to help children in need, as long as they are in Norway, regardless of where they come from - not to destroy immigrant families.

So "quoting" (ie reformulating) to his statement this way:

Trygve Jordheim believed that freedom of expression as part of us availed ourselves of to fight for this family, and to warn against the child protection abuses, are harmful.
(End of quote).

This writes the manipulator and the criminals January Aage Torp who have managed to fool the police and Oslo District Court as certainly the only soon he still hair confidence in. Besides the nefarious website Searchlight and the false Smyrna blog being run by Norway's two largest grid roll, Ansgar Braut and Torodd Fuglesteg.

Alf GJØSUND and Trygve W. Jordheims commentary articles in Our Country respectively March 3 and May 31, "The Father's hand" and "The harmful child conspiracy", enters a strange light after the ruling in a Norwegian court on Friday.

Alf Gjøsund thought that a couple of us who fought for the five children would be returned to his mum and dad made life more dangerous for children in Norway.

Trygve Jordheim believed that freedom of expression as part of us availed ourselves of to fight for this family, and to warn against the child protection abuses, are harmful. His defense of Norwegian child welfare was of the extreme kind. While secular Norwegian media have actually done a serious job of uncovering child welfare abuse, contributing Our Country to the opposite.

Is it really Alf Gjøsund, Trygve Jordheim and Our Country that makes life dangerous for children in Norway?
(End of quote).

Here are some other commenting what the criminals and mock apostle January Aage Torp writes:

Priest Frode Granerud:

There is a certain difference between saying that "freedom of expression (...) is harmful" and saying that "freedom of expression also can be used to do great harm." The last thing I expect that most of us can agree. Trygve Jordheim will surely answer for themselves, but I refuse to believe that he thinks that freedom of speech is harmful.

This is more a semantics. There is a widespread hersketeknikk preparing opponents as if they want to limit anyone's freedom of speech, when what they are really doing is disagreement in the way someone uses it. In Jordheims text, there is no clue to say that he believes that freedom of expression is harmful. But with a small and elegant reformulation get him to say just that. Such control techniques I think you should consider yourself too good for.

You quoted simply not Jordheim, you reformulated statement of his, so it got a completely different emphasis. It is not the same as a citation. Call it a dispute about semantics, in my eyes it is a dirty debate way. In line with calling a care takeover organized by CPS for kidnapping, when everyone knows that kidnapping is something very different.

Oddbjørn Johannessen

Did the referee was talk about kidnapping? Which judge, by the way? Here takes you recognize formulation freedoms hardly have coverage. As far as I have understood, there is now an agreement between the child welfare in Naustdal and the affected family. The details of this are unknown to the public because of a mutually agreed confidentiality.

"It cited" which you refer, is thus this formulation from Torp:

When a Norwegian court sends the children home, it means recognizing that children were actually kidnapped - with Norwegian law in hand.

Where Torp has his information I do not know, but as far as I've registered, this is the information that has so far migration public (quoted from NRK's ​​website):

The child welfare service in Naustdal municipality and the private parties have agreed to the return of children to their parents and an agreement on cooperation on assistance measures for parents and children, said the law firm Stiegler in a statement.

Rune Tveit

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Speaking about the meeting itself in the door. Let me add, as you make your motdebatant their working conditions and remuneration to a point. Have you ever preached to your church (you call the pastor, according to what I understand) about giving money in collectives, and you have taken out a salary from the same collection.
When it comes to expertise, then reveals that pastor profession is hardly likely to develop either legal or child welfare expertise.

Magne Husøy

Regardless of the debate in general: Was it really necessary (and expedient?) To come up with this estimate against Granerud integrity as carrier of meaning?

priest Granerud

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Now drops you simply down to a very disappointing lowlights, by going in person and not the point. My job, my salary or my profession has nothing to do with this matter to do. To reply nor in my arguments, but recalls 100,000 protesters worldwide - most of whom do not know much about how the Norwegian child welfare work, but based on rumors and untruths. It has spread a myth that child protection intervenes and takes children from parents who want to give them a Christian upbringing, but it knows well that is not true. The issue here is that the family is being investigated for educator violence. Violence against children is very serious, and it is remarkable that those who object to child welfare in this case doOddbjørn Johannessen.
I do not think I should pursue this debate particularly on since Torp and I saw clearly struggling to reach each other. I endorse the desire for a comment from the two journalists who Torp caters to.

I would nevertheless like to mention a final point, and that is that Torp repeatedly mentioned the 100,000 demonstrators. 100000 is a high figure, but it is given that they are entitled simply because they are many? There are certainly a lot more than 100,000 atheists in Norway, but you and I are at least agree that they are not entitled simply because they are many? 100,000 people could be wrong, and it is clear that a large part of the 100,000 do not know much about the Norwegian child welfare. Is not it better to refer to arguments than showing the number who feel something?

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After having written a post where you twist the quotes, you - rather than responding seriously justified criticism - with a vile personangprep on Granerud. And now quit therefore to shout at moderator.
This is really low, Torp!es not seem to care about this. It produced almost as if CPS completely gratuitous conducts a careful upbringing, without any justification, but only of evil.

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1074-hatkrim-group-at-manglerud-puts.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1070-assaying-by-jan-aage-torps.html

mandag 6. juni 2016

No. 1239: I receive many hate messages and other against me because I point out that remarriage is sin for believers!

No. 1239:
I receive many hate messages and other against me because I point out that remarriage is sin for believers!

I wrote an article:

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/06/no-1231-i-do-not-believe-in-pentecostal.html

What is so strange is that I get feedback where I THAT IS THE PROBLEM WHICH SAYS WHAT GOD'S WORD SAYS!
BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT ME, BUT THEY THAT MAY VIOLATE JESUS ​​BUD playing husband and wife JAN KAARE AND INGER HANVOLD AND ALL OTHER THAT IS MARRIED TO BELIEVERS!

Of course I have things to correct in my life, it only makes sense, I'm not God but a human being!

How and what is needed for God to awaken the faithful that remarriage is sin? And remarriage is adultery?

We know that many believers believe what happened at the government building and Utøya in 2011 was a judgment of God on the left in Norway due their hateful relationship with God's own peculiar people the Jews. Yes, there is much to suggest it!

But what about us believers? What is needed there? If God judge and do such things?

I do not know, but have begun to pray and think it over. What is needed? Pr. Today I do not know, but that we will sooner or later be held accountable for our sins, it is obvious and certainly, here comes no outside!

Here's something I answered your blog:

Anonymous writing: "You who writes abominations can not possibly have met Jesus. The only thing you have encountered is yourself, a cowardly sake! You live in a delusion, but it will discover. "

It is you who live in deception, sake and have not met Jesus!

I listen to Inger Hanvold, seeing how she lives!

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/04/no-1180-inger-hanvold-on-radio-1077-in.html

That she say on Radio 107.7 in Oslo that she needs to meet the living Jesus!

I'm sitting this in an article and hear so much bad against me shows just how Satan and his demons do not stand to hear the truth!

Inger Hanvold living with a divorced man, and when scripture says that she lives in adultery.

Luke 16 18 Whosoever shall put away his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.

Room. 7. 2 The married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as he lives; but if her husband dies, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 Therefore she called an adulteress if she, while her husband lives, marries another man; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress if she marries another man.

That she then need to meet the living Jesus, that's probably exactly right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regarding Jan Hanvold the writing as clear, whether he will live solitary, which I believe is the best in his case. Or reconcile with his first and rightly wife Berit.

1 Cor. 7. 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not divorce his husband; 11 but divorced him, then abiding she being unmarried or reconciled with her husband - and a husband should not divorce his wife.

Please, do not write shit about me! For that, you have no reason when I hold out only the word of God and Jesus commanded us believers!

Do not think I've misunderstood.
I met Jesus 35 years ago and it has kept.
Inger Hanvold fornicators.
Correct, she needs to meet whoever she claims she has not met!

An article I wrote about the couple Hanvold sin:

Nr. 498:
Inger and Jan Hanvold are pigs in a spiritual sense when they are living in adultery!


Hey!


You write about Pastor Jan Hanvold and his new flame that he has children with Inger Hanevold. Agree with you that they are not biblically married, but what do you think the two would do and those who support them, what they should do once they have been misled and deceived? Agnar P

Here is "cohabiting-couple 'Jan and Inger Hanvold pictured. Scripture says that they are living in an invalid marriage according to God's word and thus is the only way if they are to live according to the bible to break up and start a new life on their own sides. Inger Hanvold is really free, but I would not recommend her to remarry when her iniquity is very big and ugly in the eyes of the Lord!





http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-231-pastor-and-apostle-jan-aage-torp.html


and Jan Hanvold live date. Bible defensjon in a somboerskap and not in a biblical marriage. Scripture speaks of adulterers and prostitutes are not allowed and will inherit the kingdom of God. The couple is a marriage which is and remains unclean, they are living in sin and committing adultery. Such shall we turn away from and not take part in their evil deed.

Prophet Ezra afford the disobedient was clear, it was to separate themselves from the "marriage" that was signed was "invalid". He tore them t.o.m. the hair and ordered them to stand for living single and raising children without a father who was not the right husband. God has not changed, the scripture says in Hebreerbevet 13:08 Jesus Christ is yesterday and today the same, and forever.

Ezra 10 Now while Ezra was crying on the ground in front of the house of God and praying, and confessing, gathered unto him a very great multitude of Israel, both men and women and children: for the people wept very sore. 2 Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, of Olam children, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and taken strange wives of the people of the country to wives, but now there is hope for Israel in this case. 3 So let us now make a covenant with our God to put us all these women and their children, as the LORD, and of those that tremble for our God, and let us proceed according to the law! 4 Arise! For it is you who must make this and we shall help thee be strong and set to work! 5 Then Ezra got up and made the leading priests and Levites and all Israel, to swear that they should do according to this word, and they swore it. 6 Then Ezra away from the square in front of the house of God into Johanan the son of Eliashib the chamber. And when he was gone, he could neither eat nor drink, so he mourned over the exiles infidelity. 7 Then Jesus sent the proclamation in Judah and Jerusalem for all the exiles that they should gather in Jerusalem, 8 and that whosoever would not come within three days, as the princes and the elders had set out, all his substance should be forfeited, and he even excluded from the exiles church. 9 Then all the men of Judah and Benjamin in Jerusalem within the three days, it was the twentieth day of the ninth month. All the people sat in the house of God, trembling because of this matter and for the great rain. 10 Ezra the priest stood up and said to them: I have carried you transgressed, and have taken strange wives, and thus has increased in Israel. 11 Therefore confess it now, for the Lord God of your fathers, and do his will! Separate yourselves from the peoples of the land and from the foreign women! 12 Then answered all the people, saying with a loud voice, as you have said, then we ought to do. 13 But the people are many, and it is now the rainy season so we are not able to stand out here and this is a work that can not be done in a day or two, because there are many of us who have sinned in this case. 14 Therefore let our princes stand before the people, and let all those in our cities who have taken strange wives, to meet at stated times with the elders and judges of each town, until we have turned our God's wrath away from us, and this case is settled. 15 Only Jonathan son of Asahel and Jahseja, Tikva son sat opposite this, and Meshullam and Shabbethai the Levite supported them. 16 The exiles did then as I said was, and the priest Ezra and his men who were heads of their families, and all of which were mentioned by name, and they came together on the first day of the tenth month to examine the matter, 17 and they were done with all the men that had taken strange wives by the first day of the first month. 18 Among the priests' sons, they found that had taken strange wives: it was, of Joshua, the son of Jozadak and his brothers: Maaseiah, Eliezer, Jarib and Gedaliah 19 they gave their hands that they would put away their wives and sacrifice a ram from the flock as a guilt offering for the sake they had incurred by him. 44 All these had taken strange wives, and among them was the man who had children.

Nehemiah 13 25 And I contended with them and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters to their sons or take some of their daughters as wives for your sons or for yourselves. 26 Did not Solomon king of Israel such things transgressed? Yet among many nations was there no king like him, who was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did outlandish women cause to sin. 27 And hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives? (End of quote).

This was a timely and requires a clear response that goes far enough outside of what is being practiced and lived today. Want to set up ten (10) points to a way out of this powerful deceived and misled the couple.

1) There must be a clear confession, repentance behind a repentance shall come out of his adultery.

Jan Hanvold has repeatedly announced that he has sinned and has caused ektespasbrudd. But he has not done anything with it. It does nothing to confess their sin if one does not repent. But it is a convict, it is the first step in the right direction. But it's starting to go the way that leads to life. Narrow is the gate, but broad is the road that leads to destruction, Jesus says in the Sermon on the Mount.

2) They can never under any circumstances share common living and real bed when Hanvold is divorced and Inge Hanvold are then "married" a divorced and are under the same sentence as him.

This is not really that extreme. On the mission field as Norwegian and other missionaries have practiced when there is polygamy, so the man had a wife and fed the other. The same Jan Hanvold do. Living single or be reconciled to his first wife. And support Inger and children with child support which is quite common in Norway. We need to make it harder than it is!

3) Repentance here must be that they not only confess it as sin. But they begin a new life on their own sides as they currently live in adultery by God's word and it will do as long as they live together.

The way out for both of them is to restart on each edge as they are living in adultery by what God's word says. When they do the right thing and will have a clear conscience and peace with God. They will be able to reach Heaven country, so they now live as they live in sin and is headed for destruction, both when Inger has started a relationship with a person who belongs to another. Scripture says to marry a divorcee is to drive or to live in adultery on several occasions.

Luke 16 18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.

4) Sexuelle sins also attracts spirits and we must assume that both are animated when they are not occupied by spirits why should they ushered in the new step of fasting and prayer.

Sexual sin is destructive, even when the effects are not immediately apparent. It's in the Bible, 1 Corinthians 6.18. ?? Abstain from fornication! All sin that one does is outside the body. But he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.?? What constitutes often the first step towards sexual sins? It's in the Bible, Matthew 5.28. ?? But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.?? The Bible prohibits sexual intercourse with estranged which is the same as running a form of prostitution. It's in the Bible, 1 Corinthians 6,15.16. ?? Know ye not that your bodies are members of Christ? Will you then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? It must not happen! Know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body with her? It was said?? They twain shall be one??.??

This has been going on over time, so needed here are some that go in and fight the battle with them. It's just like when someone has put on for the mane kg. So it takes time to get rid of them. In the same way it is here. They are so strong and nasty captured by evil spirits as the two have become. Will they become more and more occupied by them until they repent and break up. Deliverance here is clearly something that will not happen in minutes or seconds. They need to come back to God. And get into a life with healing, restoration and together with other believers to be free. So also says the word of God that man is such damaged by such mistakes and sin, that it will take time to be free - free indeed! We have not only to do with the flesh here, but also as spirit Hanvold has been captured and animated by evil spirits. Just like Todd Bentley, Jan Aage Torp and others re-married as believers.

5) They need the help of other believers in the beginning in a special way.

Now, Inger and Jan Hanvold come over to Satan's territory with their lives as all other believers also do if they marry again while the first spouse is still living or marries a divorced. The preachers and pastors do it twice as bad as they are a model and example for other believers. Should Inger divorce in January or vice versa, so there is one thing that is for sure. They need help, support and prayers to take such a step, there is no doubt.

6) It would be natural that they had also sought the advice of Attorney and otherwise different social institutions to distribute the kids and stay.

We are not of this world as believers, we are in this world. As long as we are here to "accommodate" we must direct us by society and the regulation is there. Therefore, it would be also quite natural that they had sought advice and guidance from Attorney, municipality and school that they will facilitate them to start opening function on each edge, even if they have children.

7) When they have inflicted on themselves and the kids so much pain I would say that both should live single the rest of your life if Inger Hanvold really can get married when marriage with Jan Hanvold has never been a valid marriage within its God.

They have both been responsible for many thousands have been cheated and deceived, not least through the lifestyle they had. Therefore, it is something to not only repent and begin again. But to "zone" for their iniquity, and do justice and shells separately afterwards. Therefore, I would not advise any of them really a new relationship albeit Inger Hanvold have "right" to marry again when she really only been living with Jan Hanvold, not biblical marriage.

8) Hanvold that man has an additional responsibility. Even after repentance he is never fit to stand on a soapbox when he has made himself so right.

King Uzziah was a leper rest of his life, so I will also look Hanvold. He is a leper by living in sin in such an extreme way. Jan Hanvold and especially Inger can see with ease that they are either demon possessed or highly animated the unclean spirits

9) Jan Hanvold has an extra large responsibility Heg when he is both man and preacher. He is the one who is in charge of it all.

The cardinal here is clearly Jan Hanvold that man and preacher. That he gives himself such regard for his own flesh bears witness to a man with a very big ego and does not take itu with his own flesh and grow their own belly and desires.

From my commentary Philip Wiper letter 3 17 Have me as a role model, you too, and look at those who follow the example we have given you. Paul idol was Christ. But there is something to have a role model, but something else to live up to it. Paul managed it with their decision and by the Spirit. Had Paul continued to follow the regulations and arrangements had led into hatred, intolerance and party mind. But Jesus' love had melted his heart after he met his Savior on the way to Damascus (Ap.gj.9.). Jesus' love had made Paul a successor and could also have him model.

18 I have said it often and have to say it again with tears that there are many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. It's a pain to see that other believers fall short, like time after time. We are one body, when one member suffers and feels pain rubs off on everyone else. Psalm 119 158 I look with loathing at the faithless, do not keep your word. Unfortunately there are still "Judas" going among the believers who have wedding garment on. But we must distinguish between misleading and being misled. And between cheaters and those that fail.

19 They end in destruction, they have the stomach to god and take pride in it which is a shame for them, and they are only concerned with earthly things. It shows, unfortunately, time and time again that there is too many people take everything so lightly. God is rich enough for all but one must open up and let him in.. After graduation and works of the flesh will take root even in the believer's heart and mind. When can and will be lost if one does not repent again (Ezekiel 33).

20 But we have our citizenship is in heaven, from whence we Lord Jesus Christ as Savior. We are pilgrims here, the heavenly promised land awaits. We have a civil right down here, but it is temporary and not our true citizenship. It is the New Jerusalem in heaven and we have weather commonwealth. We are waiting for Jesus but he is waiting for God our Father will say to the Son, go get them. What a day it must be.

21 He will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his body in glory. For he has the power to subjugate all. After the fall of man came death, disease and corruption into. It happened not just something our intellectual life was darkened, and our minds were unenlightened for spiritual truths. Even our bodies are not lagged longer to live forever as God's mind with us. Therefore, we get a brand new body that we will carry forever, a new. For God nothing is impossible. He who has created everything and sustains everything to will one day transform everything for his own pleasure and for our good (end of quote).

10) There is nothing more important than anything, it is to reach heaven someday, the new Jerusalem.

What lies at the core of it all is that we all will one day reach the New Jerusalem and join and worthy. We read of Him who came to the wedding without the wedding garment on in Matthew 22 2 The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a king who made a marriage for his son. 3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4 Again he sent other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage 5 But they made light of it and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7 The king was angry, and sent his armies out and destroyed those murderers and set their city on fire. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy 9 Go ye therefore into the parting and to the marriage as many as you can find! 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to look at them at the table, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment. 12 And he said unto him, Friend! how did you get in here not having a wedding on! But he was silent. 13 Then the king said to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into outer darkness! There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called but few are chosen.

Jesus asks Inger and Jan Hanvold and anyone else who is divorced and married as believers or married to a divorced as a Christian following: "My friend! how did you get in here and have no wedding garment? '. It helps nothing to be "approved" by Christian Norway when one does not have a wedding garment? That such people have come forward testify that we live in my apostasy and Laodicea times here in our beloved Norway!


Final Comment: I've gone back the following question: You write about Pastor Jan Hanvold and his new flame that he has children with Inger Hanevold. Agree with you that they are not biblically married, but what do you think the two would do and those who support them, what they should do once they have been misled and deceived? Agnar P Has received answers to everything except this: "What do you mean the two would do and those who support them?". Anyone who supports Vision Norway and similar product businesses to share in their sin and spiritual powers will begin to work on the individual. We will not even such evil and sin belastete people like Jan and Inger Hanvold even pray for us as their spirit of Satan will be "transferred" to it and those who come in contact with them. I would not matter at all costs to allow such persons as above prayed and laid hands on me. Won such evil spirit would not for all the world's money, leisure or recognition!

1 Timothy 5:22 Do not be quick to lay hands on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure

Some excerpts from an article I wrote a few years ago:

Are you an accomplice?

2 Joh. b 9 He who does not adhere to the teachings of Christ, but goes beyond it, does not have communion with God. Those who adhere to the teachings, he has fellowship with the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, so do not receive him into their home and greet him not to attend. 11 For he who greets him is complicit in his evil deeds.

James 3 1 My brothers! Not many of you should become teachers, for you know that we will be much stricter judgment.


Luke 17 1 He said to his disciples: "It is inevitable that offenses come, but woe to him through whom they come! 2 It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone around his neck, than that he should offend one of these little ones. 3a Beware!

It amazes me how uninformed people of faith are about these things. That we are in a relationship with all other believers whether we want it or not. We are like a body and belong to each other. And when a limb does not live in time with the head - which is Christ - so it rubs off on everyone else. When a limb is obedient, then the consequence is that it also affects the other. This has nothing to do with anything except that we are in direct life connection with each other because we have the same life and the same Spirit. And the same Saviour, Lord and Father. All this binds us together as believers in spite of differences and disagreements. This is a fact and a reality.


Those preachers and are a liability to others, this is even stronger. I proclaim that has an extra large responsibility, this also applies to everyone else.

When preachers set up in conjunction with other ministers who live in sin or doing blatant heresy, so we become accomplices.

Yes, it is so severe in some cases that Jesus said that it had been better received a millstone around his neck and been thrown around the neck and then had just destroyed itself. But here destroys one not only for themselves but also for others. We lead others to perdition, into disability and into the delusion of self to influence and preach to others. It's in the room. 10th 17 that faith comes by hearing. This applies not only religion but also heresy and unbelief are also of hearing, have you thought about that? Or are you one of those who accept everything and not have their own opinions and attitudes? Everything is not of God if it is not in accordance with God's word. It is only that which agrees with the word of God, that we should align ourselves. Everything else should we shun as "plague" that will lead us down from Christ and the simplicity allegiance to him!


Here is an explanation of why the priest collar around his neck as figuratively have much going for it: Enno today are priests often painted with the old priest collar. But what was the idea behind this creation under doctor? One of the explanations is that the collar should remind priest millstone. Not the bottom of the mill in the village, but the stone that Jesus spoke about: "Whoever lures to drop one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better lit with getting a millstone hanged about his neck and sunk in the ocean's depths." It would therefore be better to have a millstone around his neck than to cause one who believes in Jesus, on wild roads. So serious is the man to lead a different way than what God says.


Related links: 
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søndag 5. juni 2016

No. 1238: Norway's perhaps foremost preacher Enevald fleet must now be allowed to do the same as Jan Hanvold and others do, get married again?

No. 1238:
Norway's perhaps foremost preacher Enevald fleet must now be allowed to do the same as Jan Hanvold and others do, get married again?

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/06/no-1231-i-do-not-believe-in-pentecostal.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/06/no-1235-enevald-flaaten-he-is-free-man.html

To me it is experienced as foul that people sit and think. It is God's word guideline. We can not do that unfortunately ia David Wilkerson did on several occasions when I've heard quite a few sermons by him. Where he believed if one had remarried, then had one remain re-married. But was one sign, so one should remain separated.

No, we as believers have no right to do so. Are you re-married as believers, we live one in an invalid marriage. That one then must leave this spouse, yes. That's what Jesus and Paul taught us!

Photo by David Wilkerson who had a totally incomprehensible learn that unfortunately many practices. That is one re-married, so one should remain re-married. This does not teach the word of God lives than in an invalid marriage. Then people will remain in adultery!


It's fabulous to hear this I now experiencing. People who before have condemned me to warn against Jan Hanvold praises me to warn against Enevald Fleet!

But both sitting in the same boat and are so far from evangelical and true Christianity it is possible to come by my reviews!

Jan Hanvold was not directly unfaithful, but he said he was not satisfied in marriage and he was not fond of Berit as his first wife. While his second wife from Eastern bloc said he took advantage of him. This he said on the airwaves, and for whatever reason. Remarriage for believers is adultery, fornication and sin!

Enevald Fleet is also now divorced, but he has as little reason to remarry as Hanvold. The road is closed!

By accepting Jan Hanvold, so there is not any reason to not accept Enevald fleet if he will remarry after his divorce. Simply invoke that it is so and so difficult to go alone, etc. I am the innocent party and I do not know what the excuses than user to remarry again as a believer? Here create a the narrow path to becoming the broad road. And those who will go on the narrow road, being held outside as judgmental, gossip and all other foolish and ugly accusations!

It's whoever marries again as believers that creates all the problems and all the horror, not the one who holds fast to God's word.


Room. 16. 17 I beseech you, brethren, to keep an eye on those who cause divisions and others fall by going contrary to the teaching you have received. Stay away from them! 18 The kind of people do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly. With fine words and platitudes deceives the people who have a naive heart. 19 But everyone has heard about the obedience you show, and therefore I rejoice over you. I want you to be wise in what is good, but innocent in evil. 20 God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet! Our Lord Jesus grace be with you!

Here it is in plain language what this proclamation of acceptance for eg remarriage and other sins creates:
"Creating divisions and others to fall. With fine words and platitudes deceives the people who have a naive heart. "

They cause divisions and others to be apostates. This forfølelse occurs through cunning and fine platitudes, where they mainly clear and will mislead those who do not have any objections and always women. Women are always the lightest and "change", therefore all seduction directed most welcomed women with fine and fair platitudes!

Now when Hanvold has set the standard - will not this then apply to everyone else? Inclusive Enevald Fleet if there is infidelity in the picture? God's word does not allow for remarriage whatever reason. Only death allows for remarriage after Jesus and Paul's teachings!

We can not respect people, this warns God's word against! When hypocrite we and real bad. As I see it, and all these divorced - re-married and lives to God's word ejected from the pulpit. They are really wolves in sheep's clothing - and false prophets!

Now we must deal with this, while we still can. Soon it is too late, and then it becomes the ward fully Sodom and Gomarra!

Before there were those who thought that I was radical, cavil and much else. Now begins more and more and change your mind, why? God's word has always been the same and are the same? It is that now things are about to get so out of control that even a dull and identical Christianity is about to wake up from its Sleeping Beauty sleep ???????????
For me remarriage sin if I am praised or cursed. For me remarriage sin for believers whatever reason!

There is only death that gives rise to a new marriage, everything else is adultery!

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