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Madness of Vision Norway as Pentecostal preachers are good for!
I looked at the Vision Norway Saturday, 01/21/2012 Nails meeting with Brandon from Florida Vision Norway believes has been a great success.
When a familiar backdrop for the charismatic movement of the religious movement and latterbevegelen as Vision Norway and Pastor January Hanvold is completely open. At the same time much of the Christian Norway good for Vision Norway both in defending this TV channel and the active set up to support it. Then all who attend Vision Norway under the same sentence as Brandon Nails from Florida and Jan Hanvold is, they are wolves in sheep's clothing. Support Vision Norway is to be complicit in the evil deed.
2. Joh. b. 10 If anyone comes to you and do not lead this doctrine, then do not take him into your house and offer him welcome! 11 for the one who offers him welcome, being an accomplice with him in his evil deeds.
Meeting with Brandon Nails from Florida
Meeting with Brandon Nails from Florida looks much like the so-called Laughter movement.
At the beginning of the meeting was the Bible reading and during reading, we heard a woman laughing and it was about to do to get shown up these ladies who laughed uncontrollably. Secondly, there was a "voice" of 1 hour where nails used approx. 10 sentences over and over again in different variations. Then pray with carvings and other uncontrolled behavior that was like watching a session of a New Age meeting.
What is this? As Emanuel Minos and soon the whole Christian Norway supports both direct and indirect? I will not use up all the space, instead I pick up a part of apologists website and let it speak for itself. It is really to try to renew the "revival" again now Vision Norway is trying to "sell".
Anything to make more money, win support and deceive even more.
What upset me is that nobody says in the but accept either publicly or tacitly. It is worrying that a minister that Emanuel Minos is the one that has a great confidence in the broad strata of people of faith and standing up the channel and look often.
This is from the apologists for this kind of preaching and meetings. Referred to as the hilarious and TB. This is manipulation, demonic activity, and people who know how to take advantage of others who willingly seduced and mislead. All to see the big. We read about this in Timothy letter that will always learn the truth but never truth-knowledge and love pleasure rather than God, tragic that Emanuel Minos supports this and all others who make up the Vision Norway or take part in this channel on one or other way.
This is from the apologists for this kind of preaching and meetings:
Below you can read a few chapters from the booklet "Holy (?) Laughter." If you wish to order a copy of the booklet, please visit the order page.
Table of Contents:
Foreword
Hilarious - as seen from the inside
Assessment of the phenomenon
Roots and context
Statements for thought
"We must be open!"
Hilarious - as seen from the inside
Charles and Frances Hunter is located in what is called "laughing revival". They tell themselves how they were transferred to "laughter" from Rodney Howard-Browne - the man who is regarded as the source and the author of this phenomenon - and how they since have transferred "laughter" to many others - including Colin Dye from England. They have served as "missionaries" and exponents of laughter revival in many countries and has also written a book about the phenomenon. The book is called "Holy laughter" and is in Norway, published by Agape Publishing. When we now want to examine this phenomenon, we will begin by quoting a part of this book to get an idea of what it's all about. What kind of phenomenon is it? How to describe it by those who themselves are in the midst of it? Let's hear it:
".... Far down in the very center of my being, I began to feel a very strange "bubbling". Boblingen increased steadily, and it left the stomach and slowly began to rise up. Little by little it crept higher and higher. Suddenly reached the neck and was dangerously close to your mouth. But then came the sudden out of my mouth in the form of the highest laughter I had ever heard. I had put her hand over her mouth to mute what I knew was going to be ridiculous, but even if I had my hand up from the floor at this time, I could not hold the laughter back, no matter how hard I pressed. I laughed, laughed, laughed and laughed. I could not at all understand why I laughed so hard, but eventually I came to that it was because I was so happy that Charles had fallen over. .......... No one said a word to explain what had happened to me, and I had the feeling that I had really spoiled me out because of laughter. " (P. 24)
At that moment there was a distinct tremor through her stomach, and a very strange sound came from somewhere deep down inside. ... She looked both startled and embarrassed out of the first waves of laughter. But then she was so consumed with laughter that she forgot everything and everyone, which characterize this phenomenon. (S.120)
We sang and sang and sang, and finally there was still something strange on the floor. The lady who was the third in a row, turned suddenly around and started beating the floor with your palm. Charles and I were shocked, for she struck not only wildly on the floor, but she laughed hysterically. (P.26)
... And when we came back to the platform, we noticed that all the other on the floor laughing hysterically. (P.27)
I laughed uncontrollably for 2-3 hours. I had to be carried out in the car ... (S.127)
Pastor Karl Strade ......... said that he had spent six weeks in laughter on the floor of the church premises. (S.35)
We called recently to a young man who had been on one of our meetings, for we remembered that when we took up the offering, he broke out into an uncontrollable holy laughter. He laughed so hard, and he said he would not make it embarrassing for us (and themselves). So he took off his jacket and tried to push the sleeve into his mouth! It did not help. He laughed all the more !...... And he became redder and redder as he laughed so long as the victim was taken up. I did not care about him because I knew he did not do anything intentionally to disturb the sacrifice. This was simply something that could not be controlled. (S.97-98)
Not long after, thirty to forty people in this part of the hall completely dissolved into uncontrollable laughter. (S.99)
In the natural we could have seen a meeting like this and asked: "What is the purpose of this laughter? I do not know. I know simply do not. (S.45)
One of the ladies of the congregation said, she laughed and laughed and lost all inhibitions. (P.105)
The strange laughter .... (P. 25)
If you've ever seen one that is full, and some of you may have even been drunk once or twice, you will notice that people who are full, mostly completely incoherent, both when they are going and when they speak . Many people laugh a lot when they are full of natural wine. The same occurs when you are full of the Holy Spirit of wine. (P.46)
Then he did something highly unusual. He stretched out his tie in front of him, crept up to the end of the tie, repeated the same thing again, and continued to stretch his tie out and crawl up to the end of it. Finally, "led" tie him to the piano, where he was two and a half hours. It did end his opposition to the holy laughter!
(S.88)
She tried to suddenly come up, and managed to get up on all fours. But then "froze" her in this position. She was completely unable to move .... She was standing in exactly the same position in at least forty five minutes. (P. 91)
Everyone knows the man who rolled around on the floor in holy laughter ... (P.47)
My daughter laughed for about an hour and a half, and at first I was scared. I wondered if the kid was about to lose my mind. I had never seen anything like it .. (S.136)
. together with a feeling that there was something mysterious about it happened, the sound certainly is not particularly dignified or spiritual. But what happens in the lives of people who are touched by God's amazing. (P.56)
Sometimes we can not even comprehend what other people do. But one of the things we have learned is to not judge others for what they do. It may seem strange, it may seem different to us, but if it is of God, and God speaks to them, so let's just follow them. The same wild and exciting experience can actually happen with us! (P.11)
Those who wanted to come out from the meeting and "lose their dignity," was touched by God's supernatural finger. Everywhere there were people on the floor, and they laughed and praised God. (S.147)
Another came and said: "I have not gotten it yet, and I do not go home until I got it!" A young boy of eleven or twelve years said: "I got it finally on the sixth attempt!" (S.101)
... so she went to church and lit a candle for Mary. And while she did, she burst out in laughter holy. (S.68)
Pastor Strade had told us that people could begin to laugh at the most serious moment in the meeting, and they would just continue to laugh.
(S.38)
And one of today's characters "on earth" is "holy laughter" as a supernatural way overpowers people at meetings all over the world! (P.9)
.. we asked who would like to receive a joyful spirit. (S.45)
A spirit of eternal joy had been lodged her! (P.36)
I was not only my own prayer language, but also let's spirit. (S.126)
She did not take it just for themselves, but as she got home, she said that she would lay hands on his older brother, so he could get the left's spirit. (S.94)
They wanted us to lay hands on them and give them this gift. We did, ..... (S.111)
Betty thinks that after we transferred the gift of holy laughter to her, many .... (S.117)
Suddenly God said: "Now is the time to transfer the anointing of the pastor and his wife!" We called them both up, put his hands on them and transferred the holy laughter to them so that they could pass it on to others. (Page 91)
Assessment of the phenomenon
In the excerpt from the book "Holy laughter" which has been reproduced on the preceding pages, there is, in my opinion, several factors that should be the wake believers to react. Let us start by looking more closely at this particular let's essence and character.
The first thing that strikes me from the description to Frances and Charles Hunter, is that there is no question of a common laughter! The laughter does not occur spontaneously and naturally, but is transmitted by the laying on of hands or otherwise. We are talking about the transfer and receipt of a special laughter spirit. Have you first got the laughter, it is impossible to stop it! It forces itself forward. The overwhelm people in a supernatural way. We do not know why you laugh, you get only a special laughter experience! Some seek and do not laugh until the sixth attempt! (When the time did you last try six times to get to a regular, normal laughter?) Laughter is hysterical, violent and uncontrollable and lasts abnormally long. We are talking about a very special kind of laughter - people who see the phenomenon has never seen anything like it before (!) And wonder if those who feel it has gone mad!. Often accompanied by laughter very strange and questionable phenomena such as consciousness, rolling on the floor, "tracking" of the tie, solidification all four, etc.
Such laughter is not normal! It is "miles" from the normal, good laughter in your living room as we all know. It is also miles away from a genuine and natural joy erupted in a Christian context. The phenomenon is clearly different from normal laughter. Something completely different! (Feel free to read excerpts from the book again!).
But if it is not about an ordinary laughter, what is it?
The authors of the book speaks even in very clear terms that there is something supernatural. Repeatedly it is said straight out that it concerns the transfer of a special spirit. And as the phenomenon is described in the book, everything indicates that there is no question of empty words, but that the top priority level corresponds to a true description! All the testimonies in the book builds strong during this. The same testimonies from our own country. Likewise all the wonders and miracles and strange phenomena that occur in connection with lattermanifestasjonene. And not least, let's own very special profile and character! It is also my personal impressions from his own observations in some meetings that there is something that goes far beyond what is with all reasonably expect of human nature - even if the NOK can often play us a lot of pus. Without claiming any scientific evidence (who can really in question as this?), I believe on the basis of the here given considerations that there is every reason to assert that - the laughter we face in laughter revival, is a supernatural laughter.
Personally, I agree, at least this is a basic description of laughter revival. I do not think there is only a wave of human arousal and artificial that is spreading across the world, but is convinced that people who are affected by this revival, really experience something extraordinary and spiritually.
If we go on from this starting point, we face two possibilities. This is something all Bible readers are familiar with. Whether the phenomenon is a product of God's Spirit, or is it a product of evil, demonic spirits. The spirit world is the matter of light or darkness. Either or! Spirit powers are not neutral or domiciled in the no man's land! Furthermore, the study therefore, we must see whether there are grounds to say anything about what kind of spiritual power that is behind laughter phenomenon. Do we have any evidence? Are there any indications?
Of crucial importance in this regard will be to determine the extent to which there is coverage for the phenomenon of God's word. Is it discussed and recommended that, the matter is straightforward. If the phenomenon, however, not discussed or recommended in the word of God, then we have every reason to be wary! The apostle Paul gives a clear admonition to the believers "do not go beyond what is written" (1.Kor.4, 6) So long as we stay within biblical guidelines and limits, we are safe. But we seek spiritual experiences outside the biblical framework, we are immediately on the uncertain and dangerous ground. Before you know it, one can be deceived and trapped into a diabolical web of demonic influence. Unfortunately, many people have been bitter experiences of this. Things seemed so alluring! But they were not biblical, and therefore they were over time to spiritual disaster and ruin instead of a blessing.
When it comes to assessment of public laughter in relation to the Bible, it is essential that you have the ability to "see behind the words." Phenomena bearing the same name, in fact be as different as night and day. Think for example. the rich man in Luk.16 who lived each day in the "glory and joy." How different is this joy from the "joy of the Lord"! Joy is not necessarily the same as joy! Similarly, do not laugh necessarily the same as the laughter! If we think it, we are very gullible and easy prey for the seductive powers. Mormons call themselves the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints." Does that mean they really are sacred? Do you think right away that they are sacred because they say they are? Or you realize that the word can be misused? I can not strongly NOK emphasize how incredibly important it is that we do not let us dazzle of phraseology. We need to test the contents of the bag - not just read the writing on the outside!
Outside the "bag" we have before us in this study is the "laughter" in large letters. But that does not mean that we necessarily find true and healthy biblical joy on the inside!
The challenge we face is to "dive in" and really consider this sack content! We must address this very special kind of laughter and consider it as a separate, independent phenomenon. Forget the good, common laughter you know from before! What we should be considering now, is a supernatural, hysterical and uncontrollable laughter!
The question is whether this kind of laughter is mentioned in Scripture?
And the answer to this question is a definite NO! This special kind of laughter is not at all mentioned in Scripture. Reception and transfer of a hysterical and uncontrollable latterånd, is clearly something that is outside the biblical framework. Such a phenomenon is either exemplified or doctrinal mentioned in Scripture (check yourself using a Bible dictionary - the word laughter occurs approx. 40 times, it does not take very long to go through them). The Bible speaks of joy (Fil.4, 4) and laughter (Psalm 126.2), but never about this kind of laughter! Never!
As a point number two, we therefore argue that the phenomenon may clearly be labeled as outside biblical!
It can also be argued that if we have "returned to urkristendommen" as our motto, we should guard us well to seek experiences that urkristendommen did not know! Peter and Paul never transferred a hysterical latterånd to anyone!
We have established that the "holy" laughter is a supernatural and extra-biblical phenomenon. Warning bells should already now start calling! But let us proceed in our study, and now try to evaluate it against the biblical principles. Does laughter in line with these? Well, let's investigate.
I note that the use of scripture in which demons operations are described, does not automatically mean that I equate things. Rather I mean to use these passages as indicators of what the opposite of the divine is.
One of the characteristics of the "holy" laughter, among other things, that:
It is uncontrollable!
Just as there is a spirit seizes him .... (Luk.9, 39). In Scripture, we learn that the prophets are prophets spirits obedient (1.Kor.14, 32) and the fruit of the Spirit is self control! (Gal.5, 22 - abstinence is called in Greek "egkrateia" and actually means self-control!)
It's hysterical!
Our God is called the God of peace (see eg. 1.Kor.14, 33). In line with its own being, he gives his children peace (Fil.4, 7) and a "sound mind"! (2.Tim.1, 7). Spirit's desire is peace! (Rom.8, 6)
It is noisy!
Just as there is a spirit seizes him. It sets out a scream and tearing him ....( Luk.9, 39) all kinds of screaming to be far away from you (Eph. 4.31)! In quietness and confidence shall your strength be (Es.30, 15). Your adornment should not be ......., but a gentle and quiet spirit which is precious to God (1.Pet.3 0.3 to 4)
It creates confusion!
But let all things be done decently and in order! (1.Kor.14, 40) ... one at a time (1.Kor.14, 27). For God is not God of disorder but of peace God (1.Kor.14, 33)
It is shameful!
Before their lives just as worthy for Christ! (Fil.1, 27) Bath you sincerely to walk worthy of God (1.Tess.2, 12). Honor when God in their bodies! (1.Kor.6, 20)
Bizarre things follow in its wake!
By their fruits ye shall know them .... a bad tree can not bear good fruit (Mat.7 0.16 to 17) The evil spirit threw the man in the midst ...... (Luk.4, 35) It is not spoken well of!
Anything that is worth the honor, all that is spoken well of - heed it! (Fil.4, 8 Many will follow after them in their wantonness, and for their sake to the way of truth will be blasphemed (2, Pet.2, 2 (Unsaved people I've talked to who have seen a number of hilarious television or elsewhere, is appalled and shocked and feel disgusted with it).
We asked the question about the "holy" laughter acted in line with biblical principles? Based on the points noted above, it should perhaps not be so difficult to answer this question. Personally, I think certainly that's not particularly difficult to conclude that - the holy laughter does not work in line with the biblical principles!
So far in our assessment of laughter phenomenon, we have concluded that:
1. Laughter is a supernatural phenomenon.
2. Laughter is an extra biblical phenomenon
3. The laughter does not work after the biblical principles
Actually, these three points fully adequate as a basis for a biblical examination of laughter revival. One has here fully the necessary basis for deciding the phenomenon. I should still supplement with some additional material in the next chapter I will take me a little "surrounding" drug that indirectly also says something about the "holy" laughter.
Related links: Madness of Vision Norway as Pentecostal preachers are good for!
I looked at the Vision Norway Saturday, 01/21/2012 Nails meeting with Brandon from Florida Vision Norway believes has been a great success.
When a familiar backdrop for the charismatic movement of the religious movement and latterbevegelen as Vision Norway and Pastor January Hanvold is completely open. At the same time much of the Christian Norway good for Vision Norway both in defending this TV channel and the active set up to support it. Then all who attend Vision Norway under the same sentence as Brandon Nails from Florida and Jan Hanvold is, they are wolves in sheep's clothing. Support Vision Norway is to be complicit in the evil deed.
2. Joh. b. 10 If anyone comes to you and do not lead this doctrine, then do not take him into your house and offer him welcome! 11 for the one who offers him welcome, being an accomplice with him in his evil deeds.
Meeting with Brandon Nails from Florida
Meeting with Brandon Nails from Florida looks much like the so-called Laughter movement.
At the beginning of the meeting was the Bible reading and during reading, we heard a woman laughing and it was about to do to get shown up these ladies who laughed uncontrollably. Secondly, there was a "voice" of 1 hour where nails used approx. 10 sentences over and over again in different variations. Then pray with carvings and other uncontrolled behavior that was like watching a session of a New Age meeting.
What is this? As Emanuel Minos and soon the whole Christian Norway supports both direct and indirect? I will not use up all the space, instead I pick up a part of apologists website and let it speak for itself. It is really to try to renew the "revival" again now Vision Norway is trying to "sell".
Anything to make more money, win support and deceive even more.
What upset me is that nobody says in the but accept either publicly or tacitly. It is worrying that a minister that Emanuel Minos is the one that has a great confidence in the broad strata of people of faith and standing up the channel and look often.
This is from the apologists for this kind of preaching and meetings. Referred to as the hilarious and TB. This is manipulation, demonic activity, and people who know how to take advantage of others who willingly seduced and mislead. All to see the big. We read about this in Timothy letter that will always learn the truth but never truth-knowledge and love pleasure rather than God, tragic that Emanuel Minos supports this and all others who make up the Vision Norway or take part in this channel on one or other way.
This is from the apologists for this kind of preaching and meetings:
Below you can read a few chapters from the booklet "Holy (?) Laughter." If you wish to order a copy of the booklet, please visit the order page.
Table of Contents:
Foreword
Hilarious - as seen from the inside
Assessment of the phenomenon
Roots and context
Statements for thought
"We must be open!"
Hilarious - as seen from the inside
Charles and Frances Hunter is located in what is called "laughing revival". They tell themselves how they were transferred to "laughter" from Rodney Howard-Browne - the man who is regarded as the source and the author of this phenomenon - and how they since have transferred "laughter" to many others - including Colin Dye from England. They have served as "missionaries" and exponents of laughter revival in many countries and has also written a book about the phenomenon. The book is called "Holy laughter" and is in Norway, published by Agape Publishing. When we now want to examine this phenomenon, we will begin by quoting a part of this book to get an idea of what it's all about. What kind of phenomenon is it? How to describe it by those who themselves are in the midst of it? Let's hear it:
".... Far down in the very center of my being, I began to feel a very strange "bubbling". Boblingen increased steadily, and it left the stomach and slowly began to rise up. Little by little it crept higher and higher. Suddenly reached the neck and was dangerously close to your mouth. But then came the sudden out of my mouth in the form of the highest laughter I had ever heard. I had put her hand over her mouth to mute what I knew was going to be ridiculous, but even if I had my hand up from the floor at this time, I could not hold the laughter back, no matter how hard I pressed. I laughed, laughed, laughed and laughed. I could not at all understand why I laughed so hard, but eventually I came to that it was because I was so happy that Charles had fallen over. .......... No one said a word to explain what had happened to me, and I had the feeling that I had really spoiled me out because of laughter. " (P. 24)
At that moment there was a distinct tremor through her stomach, and a very strange sound came from somewhere deep down inside. ... She looked both startled and embarrassed out of the first waves of laughter. But then she was so consumed with laughter that she forgot everything and everyone, which characterize this phenomenon. (S.120)
We sang and sang and sang, and finally there was still something strange on the floor. The lady who was the third in a row, turned suddenly around and started beating the floor with your palm. Charles and I were shocked, for she struck not only wildly on the floor, but she laughed hysterically. (P.26)
... And when we came back to the platform, we noticed that all the other on the floor laughing hysterically. (P.27)
I laughed uncontrollably for 2-3 hours. I had to be carried out in the car ... (S.127)
Pastor Karl Strade ......... said that he had spent six weeks in laughter on the floor of the church premises. (S.35)
We called recently to a young man who had been on one of our meetings, for we remembered that when we took up the offering, he broke out into an uncontrollable holy laughter. He laughed so hard, and he said he would not make it embarrassing for us (and themselves). So he took off his jacket and tried to push the sleeve into his mouth! It did not help. He laughed all the more !...... And he became redder and redder as he laughed so long as the victim was taken up. I did not care about him because I knew he did not do anything intentionally to disturb the sacrifice. This was simply something that could not be controlled. (S.97-98)
Not long after, thirty to forty people in this part of the hall completely dissolved into uncontrollable laughter. (S.99)
In the natural we could have seen a meeting like this and asked: "What is the purpose of this laughter? I do not know. I know simply do not. (S.45)
One of the ladies of the congregation said, she laughed and laughed and lost all inhibitions. (P.105)
The strange laughter .... (P. 25)
If you've ever seen one that is full, and some of you may have even been drunk once or twice, you will notice that people who are full, mostly completely incoherent, both when they are going and when they speak . Many people laugh a lot when they are full of natural wine. The same occurs when you are full of the Holy Spirit of wine. (P.46)
Then he did something highly unusual. He stretched out his tie in front of him, crept up to the end of the tie, repeated the same thing again, and continued to stretch his tie out and crawl up to the end of it. Finally, "led" tie him to the piano, where he was two and a half hours. It did end his opposition to the holy laughter!
(S.88)
She tried to suddenly come up, and managed to get up on all fours. But then "froze" her in this position. She was completely unable to move .... She was standing in exactly the same position in at least forty five minutes. (P. 91)
Everyone knows the man who rolled around on the floor in holy laughter ... (P.47)
My daughter laughed for about an hour and a half, and at first I was scared. I wondered if the kid was about to lose my mind. I had never seen anything like it .. (S.136)
. together with a feeling that there was something mysterious about it happened, the sound certainly is not particularly dignified or spiritual. But what happens in the lives of people who are touched by God's amazing. (P.56)
Sometimes we can not even comprehend what other people do. But one of the things we have learned is to not judge others for what they do. It may seem strange, it may seem different to us, but if it is of God, and God speaks to them, so let's just follow them. The same wild and exciting experience can actually happen with us! (P.11)
Those who wanted to come out from the meeting and "lose their dignity," was touched by God's supernatural finger. Everywhere there were people on the floor, and they laughed and praised God. (S.147)
Another came and said: "I have not gotten it yet, and I do not go home until I got it!" A young boy of eleven or twelve years said: "I got it finally on the sixth attempt!" (S.101)
... so she went to church and lit a candle for Mary. And while she did, she burst out in laughter holy. (S.68)
Pastor Strade had told us that people could begin to laugh at the most serious moment in the meeting, and they would just continue to laugh.
(S.38)
And one of today's characters "on earth" is "holy laughter" as a supernatural way overpowers people at meetings all over the world! (P.9)
.. we asked who would like to receive a joyful spirit. (S.45)
A spirit of eternal joy had been lodged her! (P.36)
I was not only my own prayer language, but also let's spirit. (S.126)
She did not take it just for themselves, but as she got home, she said that she would lay hands on his older brother, so he could get the left's spirit. (S.94)
They wanted us to lay hands on them and give them this gift. We did, ..... (S.111)
Betty thinks that after we transferred the gift of holy laughter to her, many .... (S.117)
Suddenly God said: "Now is the time to transfer the anointing of the pastor and his wife!" We called them both up, put his hands on them and transferred the holy laughter to them so that they could pass it on to others. (Page 91)
Assessment of the phenomenon
In the excerpt from the book "Holy laughter" which has been reproduced on the preceding pages, there is, in my opinion, several factors that should be the wake believers to react. Let us start by looking more closely at this particular let's essence and character.
The first thing that strikes me from the description to Frances and Charles Hunter, is that there is no question of a common laughter! The laughter does not occur spontaneously and naturally, but is transmitted by the laying on of hands or otherwise. We are talking about the transfer and receipt of a special laughter spirit. Have you first got the laughter, it is impossible to stop it! It forces itself forward. The overwhelm people in a supernatural way. We do not know why you laugh, you get only a special laughter experience! Some seek and do not laugh until the sixth attempt! (When the time did you last try six times to get to a regular, normal laughter?) Laughter is hysterical, violent and uncontrollable and lasts abnormally long. We are talking about a very special kind of laughter - people who see the phenomenon has never seen anything like it before (!) And wonder if those who feel it has gone mad!. Often accompanied by laughter very strange and questionable phenomena such as consciousness, rolling on the floor, "tracking" of the tie, solidification all four, etc.
Such laughter is not normal! It is "miles" from the normal, good laughter in your living room as we all know. It is also miles away from a genuine and natural joy erupted in a Christian context. The phenomenon is clearly different from normal laughter. Something completely different! (Feel free to read excerpts from the book again!).
But if it is not about an ordinary laughter, what is it?
The authors of the book speaks even in very clear terms that there is something supernatural. Repeatedly it is said straight out that it concerns the transfer of a special spirit. And as the phenomenon is described in the book, everything indicates that there is no question of empty words, but that the top priority level corresponds to a true description! All the testimonies in the book builds strong during this. The same testimonies from our own country. Likewise all the wonders and miracles and strange phenomena that occur in connection with lattermanifestasjonene. And not least, let's own very special profile and character! It is also my personal impressions from his own observations in some meetings that there is something that goes far beyond what is with all reasonably expect of human nature - even if the NOK can often play us a lot of pus. Without claiming any scientific evidence (who can really in question as this?), I believe on the basis of the here given considerations that there is every reason to assert that - the laughter we face in laughter revival, is a supernatural laughter.
Personally, I agree, at least this is a basic description of laughter revival. I do not think there is only a wave of human arousal and artificial that is spreading across the world, but is convinced that people who are affected by this revival, really experience something extraordinary and spiritually.
If we go on from this starting point, we face two possibilities. This is something all Bible readers are familiar with. Whether the phenomenon is a product of God's Spirit, or is it a product of evil, demonic spirits. The spirit world is the matter of light or darkness. Either or! Spirit powers are not neutral or domiciled in the no man's land! Furthermore, the study therefore, we must see whether there are grounds to say anything about what kind of spiritual power that is behind laughter phenomenon. Do we have any evidence? Are there any indications?
Of crucial importance in this regard will be to determine the extent to which there is coverage for the phenomenon of God's word. Is it discussed and recommended that, the matter is straightforward. If the phenomenon, however, not discussed or recommended in the word of God, then we have every reason to be wary! The apostle Paul gives a clear admonition to the believers "do not go beyond what is written" (1.Kor.4, 6) So long as we stay within biblical guidelines and limits, we are safe. But we seek spiritual experiences outside the biblical framework, we are immediately on the uncertain and dangerous ground. Before you know it, one can be deceived and trapped into a diabolical web of demonic influence. Unfortunately, many people have been bitter experiences of this. Things seemed so alluring! But they were not biblical, and therefore they were over time to spiritual disaster and ruin instead of a blessing.
When it comes to assessment of public laughter in relation to the Bible, it is essential that you have the ability to "see behind the words." Phenomena bearing the same name, in fact be as different as night and day. Think for example. the rich man in Luk.16 who lived each day in the "glory and joy." How different is this joy from the "joy of the Lord"! Joy is not necessarily the same as joy! Similarly, do not laugh necessarily the same as the laughter! If we think it, we are very gullible and easy prey for the seductive powers. Mormons call themselves the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints." Does that mean they really are sacred? Do you think right away that they are sacred because they say they are? Or you realize that the word can be misused? I can not strongly NOK emphasize how incredibly important it is that we do not let us dazzle of phraseology. We need to test the contents of the bag - not just read the writing on the outside!
Outside the "bag" we have before us in this study is the "laughter" in large letters. But that does not mean that we necessarily find true and healthy biblical joy on the inside!
The challenge we face is to "dive in" and really consider this sack content! We must address this very special kind of laughter and consider it as a separate, independent phenomenon. Forget the good, common laughter you know from before! What we should be considering now, is a supernatural, hysterical and uncontrollable laughter!
The question is whether this kind of laughter is mentioned in Scripture?
And the answer to this question is a definite NO! This special kind of laughter is not at all mentioned in Scripture. Reception and transfer of a hysterical and uncontrollable latterånd, is clearly something that is outside the biblical framework. Such a phenomenon is either exemplified or doctrinal mentioned in Scripture (check yourself using a Bible dictionary - the word laughter occurs approx. 40 times, it does not take very long to go through them). The Bible speaks of joy (Fil.4, 4) and laughter (Psalm 126.2), but never about this kind of laughter! Never!
As a point number two, we therefore argue that the phenomenon may clearly be labeled as outside biblical!
It can also be argued that if we have "returned to urkristendommen" as our motto, we should guard us well to seek experiences that urkristendommen did not know! Peter and Paul never transferred a hysterical latterånd to anyone!
We have established that the "holy" laughter is a supernatural and extra-biblical phenomenon. Warning bells should already now start calling! But let us proceed in our study, and now try to evaluate it against the biblical principles. Does laughter in line with these? Well, let's investigate.
I note that the use of scripture in which demons operations are described, does not automatically mean that I equate things. Rather I mean to use these passages as indicators of what the opposite of the divine is.
One of the characteristics of the "holy" laughter, among other things, that:
It is uncontrollable!
Just as there is a spirit seizes him .... (Luk.9, 39). In Scripture, we learn that the prophets are prophets spirits obedient (1.Kor.14, 32) and the fruit of the Spirit is self control! (Gal.5, 22 - abstinence is called in Greek "egkrateia" and actually means self-control!)
It's hysterical!
Our God is called the God of peace (see eg. 1.Kor.14, 33). In line with its own being, he gives his children peace (Fil.4, 7) and a "sound mind"! (2.Tim.1, 7). Spirit's desire is peace! (Rom.8, 6)
It is noisy!
Just as there is a spirit seizes him. It sets out a scream and tearing him ....( Luk.9, 39) all kinds of screaming to be far away from you (Eph. 4.31)! In quietness and confidence shall your strength be (Es.30, 15). Your adornment should not be ......., but a gentle and quiet spirit which is precious to God (1.Pet.3 0.3 to 4)
It creates confusion!
But let all things be done decently and in order! (1.Kor.14, 40) ... one at a time (1.Kor.14, 27). For God is not God of disorder but of peace God (1.Kor.14, 33)
It is shameful!
Before their lives just as worthy for Christ! (Fil.1, 27) Bath you sincerely to walk worthy of God (1.Tess.2, 12). Honor when God in their bodies! (1.Kor.6, 20)
Bizarre things follow in its wake!
By their fruits ye shall know them .... a bad tree can not bear good fruit (Mat.7 0.16 to 17) The evil spirit threw the man in the midst ...... (Luk.4, 35) It is not spoken well of!
Anything that is worth the honor, all that is spoken well of - heed it! (Fil.4, 8 Many will follow after them in their wantonness, and for their sake to the way of truth will be blasphemed (2, Pet.2, 2 (Unsaved people I've talked to who have seen a number of hilarious television or elsewhere, is appalled and shocked and feel disgusted with it).
We asked the question about the "holy" laughter acted in line with biblical principles? Based on the points noted above, it should perhaps not be so difficult to answer this question. Personally, I think certainly that's not particularly difficult to conclude that - the holy laughter does not work in line with the biblical principles!
So far in our assessment of laughter phenomenon, we have concluded that:
1. Laughter is a supernatural phenomenon.
2. Laughter is an extra biblical phenomenon
3. The laughter does not work after the biblical principles
Actually, these three points fully adequate as a basis for a biblical examination of laughter revival. One has here fully the necessary basis for deciding the phenomenon. I should still supplement with some additional material in the next chapter I will take me a little "surrounding" drug that indirectly also says something about the "holy" laughter.
Related links: Madness of Vision Norway as Pentecostal preachers are good for!
I looked at the Vision Norway Saturday, 01/21/2012 Nails meeting with Brandon from Florida Vision Norway believes has been a great success.
When a familiar backdrop for the charismatic movement of the religious movement and latterbevegelen as Vision Norway and Pastor January Hanvold is completely open. At the same time much of the Christian Norway good for Vision Norway both in defending this TV channel and the active set up to support it. Then all who attend Vision Norway under the same sentence as Brandon Nails from Florida and Jan Hanvold is, they are wolves in sheep's clothing. Support Vision Norway is to be complicit in the evil deed.
2. Joh. b. 10 If anyone comes to you and do not lead this doctrine, then do not take him into your house and offer him welcome! 11 for the one who offers him welcome, being an accomplice with him in his evil deeds.
Meeting with Brandon Nails from Florida
Meeting with Brandon Nails from Florida looks much like the so-called Laughter movement.
At the beginning of the meeting was the Bible reading and during reading, we heard a woman laughing and it was about to do to get shown up these ladies who laughed uncontrollably. Secondly, there was a "voice" of 1 hour where nails used approx. 10 sentences over and over again in different variations. Then pray with carvings and other uncontrolled behavior that was like watching a session of a New Age meeting.
What is this? As Emanuel Minos and soon the whole Christian Norway supports both direct and indirect? I will not use up all the space, instead I pick up a part of apologists website and let it speak for itself. It is really to try to renew the "revival" again now Vision Norway is trying to "sell".
Anything to make more money, win support and deceive even more.
What upset me is that nobody says in the but accept either publicly or tacitly. It is worrying that a minister that Emanuel Minos is the one that has a great confidence in the broad strata of people of faith and standing up the channel and look often.
This is from the apologists for this kind of preaching and meetings. Referred to as the hilarious and TB. This is manipulation, demonic activity, and people who know how to take advantage of others who willingly seduced and mislead. All to see the big. We read about this in Timothy letter that will always learn the truth but never truth-knowledge and love pleasure rather than God, tragic that Emanuel Minos supports this and all others who make up the Vision Norway or take part in this channel on one or other way.
This is from the apologists for this kind of preaching and meetings:
Below you can read a few chapters from the booklet "Holy (?) Laughter." If you wish to order a copy of the booklet, please visit the order page.
Table of Contents:
Foreword
Hilarious - as seen from the inside
Assessment of the phenomenon
Roots and context
Statements for thought
"We must be open!"
Hilarious - as seen from the inside
Charles and Frances Hunter is located in what is called "laughing revival". They tell themselves how they were transferred to "laughter" from Rodney Howard-Browne - the man who is regarded as the source and the author of this phenomenon - and how they since have transferred "laughter" to many others - including Colin Dye from England. They have served as "missionaries" and exponents of laughter revival in many countries and has also written a book about the phenomenon. The book is called "Holy laughter" and is in Norway, published by Agape Publishing. When we now want to examine this phenomenon, we will begin by quoting a part of this book to get an idea of what it's all about. What kind of phenomenon is it? How to describe it by those who themselves are in the midst of it? Let's hear it:
".... Far down in the very center of my being, I began to feel a very strange "bubbling". Boblingen increased steadily, and it left the stomach and slowly began to rise up. Little by little it crept higher and higher. Suddenly reached the neck and was dangerously close to your mouth. But then came the sudden out of my mouth in the form of the highest laughter I had ever heard. I had put her hand over her mouth to mute what I knew was going to be ridiculous, but even if I had my hand up from the floor at this time, I could not hold the laughter back, no matter how hard I pressed. I laughed, laughed, laughed and laughed. I could not at all understand why I laughed so hard, but eventually I came to that it was because I was so happy that Charles had fallen over. .......... No one said a word to explain what had happened to me, and I had the feeling that I had really spoiled me out because of laughter. " (P. 24)
At that moment there was a distinct tremor through her stomach, and a very strange sound came from somewhere deep down inside. ... She looked both startled and embarrassed out of the first waves of laughter. But then she was so consumed with laughter that she forgot everything and everyone, which characterize this phenomenon. (S.120)
We sang and sang and sang, and finally there was still something strange on the floor. The lady who was the third in a row, turned suddenly around and started beating the floor with your palm. Charles and I were shocked, for she struck not only wildly on the floor, but she laughed hysterically. (P.26)
... And when we came back to the platform, we noticed that all the other on the floor laughing hysterically. (P.27)
I laughed uncontrollably for 2-3 hours. I had to be carried out in the car ... (S.127)
Pastor Karl Strade ......... said that he had spent six weeks in laughter on the floor of the church premises. (S.35)
We called recently to a young man who had been on one of our meetings, for we remembered that when we took up the offering, he broke out into an uncontrollable holy laughter. He laughed so hard, and he said he would not make it embarrassing for us (and themselves). So he took off his jacket and tried to push the sleeve into his mouth! It did not help. He laughed all the more !...... And he became redder and redder as he laughed so long as the victim was taken up. I did not care about him because I knew he did not do anything intentionally to disturb the sacrifice. This was simply something that could not be controlled. (S.97-98)
Not long after, thirty to forty people in this part of the hall completely dissolved into uncontrollable laughter. (S.99)
In the natural we could have seen a meeting like this and asked: "What is the purpose of this laughter? I do not know. I know simply do not. (S.45)
One of the ladies of the congregation said, she laughed and laughed and lost all inhibitions. (P.105)
The strange laughter .... (P. 25)
If you've ever seen one that is full, and some of you may have even been drunk once or twice, you will notice that people who are full, mostly completely incoherent, both when they are going and when they speak . Many people laugh a lot when they are full of natural wine. The same occurs when you are full of the Holy Spirit of wine. (P.46)
Then he did something highly unusual. He stretched out his tie in front of him, crept up to the end of the tie, repeated the same thing again, and continued to stretch his tie out and crawl up to the end of it. Finally, "led" tie him to the piano, where he was two and a half hours. It did end his opposition to the holy laughter!
(S.88)
She tried to suddenly come up, and managed to get up on all fours. But then "froze" her in this position. She was completely unable to move .... She was standing in exactly the same position in at least forty five minutes. (P. 91)
Everyone knows the man who rolled around on the floor in holy laughter ... (P.47)
My daughter laughed for about an hour and a half, and at first I was scared. I wondered if the kid was about to lose my mind. I had never seen anything like it .. (S.136)
. together with a feeling that there was something mysterious about it happened, the sound certainly is not particularly dignified or spiritual. But what happens in the lives of people who are touched by God's amazing. (P.56)
Sometimes we can not even comprehend what other people do. But one of the things we have learned is to not judge others for what they do. It may seem strange, it may seem different to us, but if it is of God, and God speaks to them, so let's just follow them. The same wild and exciting experience can actually happen with us! (P.11)
Those who wanted to come out from the meeting and "lose their dignity," was touched by God's supernatural finger. Everywhere there were people on the floor, and they laughed and praised God. (S.147)
Another came and said: "I have not gotten it yet, and I do not go home until I got it!" A young boy of eleven or twelve years said: "I got it finally on the sixth attempt!" (S.101)
... so she went to church and lit a candle for Mary. And while she did, she burst out in laughter holy. (S.68)
Pastor Strade had told us that people could begin to laugh at the most serious moment in the meeting, and they would just continue to laugh.
(S.38)
And one of today's characters "on earth" is "holy laughter" as a supernatural way overpowers people at meetings all over the world! (P.9)
.. we asked who would like to receive a joyful spirit. (S.45)
A spirit of eternal joy had been lodged her! (P.36)
I was not only my own prayer language, but also let's spirit. (S.126)
She did not take it just for themselves, but as she got home, she said that she would lay hands on his older brother, so he could get the left's spirit. (S.94)
They wanted us to lay hands on them and give them this gift. We did, ..... (S.111)
Betty thinks that after we transferred the gift of holy laughter to her, many .... (S.117)
Suddenly God said: "Now is the time to transfer the anointing of the pastor and his wife!" We called them both up, put his hands on them and transferred the holy laughter to them so that they could pass it on to others. (Page 91)
Assessment of the phenomenon
In the excerpt from the book "Holy laughter" which has been reproduced on the preceding pages, there is, in my opinion, several factors that should be the wake believers to react. Let us start by looking more closely at this particular let's essence and character.
The first thing that strikes me from the description to Frances and Charles Hunter, is that there is no question of a common laughter! The laughter does not occur spontaneously and naturally, but is transmitted by the laying on of hands or otherwise. We are talking about the transfer and receipt of a special laughter spirit. Have you first got the laughter, it is impossible to stop it! It forces itself forward. The overwhelm people in a supernatural way. We do not know why you laugh, you get only a special laughter experience! Some seek and do not laugh until the sixth attempt! (When the time did you last try six times to get to a regular, normal laughter?) Laughter is hysterical, violent and uncontrollable and lasts abnormally long. We are talking about a very special kind of laughter - people who see the phenomenon has never seen anything like it before (!) And wonder if those who feel it has gone mad!. Often accompanied by laughter very strange and questionable phenomena such as consciousness, rolling on the floor, "tracking" of the tie, solidification all four, etc.
Such laughter is not normal! It is "miles" from the normal, good laughter in your living room as we all know. It is also miles away from a genuine and natural joy erupted in a Christian context. The phenomenon is clearly different from normal laughter. Something completely different! (Feel free to read excerpts from the book again!).
But if it is not about an ordinary laughter, what is it?
The authors of the book speaks even in very clear terms that there is something supernatural. Repeatedly it is said straight out that it concerns the transfer of a special spirit. And as the phenomenon is described in the book, everything indicates that there is no question of empty words, but that the top priority level corresponds to a true description! All the testimonies in the book builds strong during this. The same testimonies from our own country. Likewise all the wonders and miracles and strange phenomena that occur in connection with lattermanifestasjonene. And not least, let's own very special profile and character! It is also my personal impressions from his own observations in some meetings that there is something that goes far beyond what is with all reasonably expect of human nature - even if the NOK can often play us a lot of pus. Without claiming any scientific evidence (who can really in question as this?), I believe on the basis of the here given considerations that there is every reason to assert that - the laughter we face in laughter revival, is a supernatural laughter.
Personally, I agree, at least this is a basic description of laughter revival. I do not think there is only a wave of human arousal and artificial that is spreading across the world, but is convinced that people who are affected by this revival, really experience something extraordinary and spiritually.
If we go on from this starting point, we face two possibilities. This is something all Bible readers are familiar with. Whether the phenomenon is a product of God's Spirit, or is it a product of evil, demonic spirits. The spirit world is the matter of light or darkness. Either or! Spirit powers are not neutral or domiciled in the no man's land! Furthermore, the study therefore, we must see whether there are grounds to say anything about what kind of spiritual power that is behind laughter phenomenon. Do we have any evidence? Are there any indications?
Of crucial importance in this regard will be to determine the extent to which there is coverage for the phenomenon of God's word. Is it discussed and recommended that, the matter is straightforward. If the phenomenon, however, not discussed or recommended in the word of God, then we have every reason to be wary! The apostle Paul gives a clear admonition to the believers "do not go beyond what is written" (1.Kor.4, 6) So long as we stay within biblical guidelines and limits, we are safe. But we seek spiritual experiences outside the biblical framework, we are immediately on the uncertain and dangerous ground. Before you know it, one can be deceived and trapped into a diabolical web of demonic influence. Unfortunately, many people have been bitter experiences of this. Things seemed so alluring! But they were not biblical, and therefore they were over time to spiritual disaster and ruin instead of a blessing.
When it comes to assessment of public laughter in relation to the Bible, it is essential that you have the ability to "see behind the words." Phenomena bearing the same name, in fact be as different as night and day. Think for example. the rich man in Luk.16 who lived each day in the "glory and joy." How different is this joy from the "joy of the Lord"! Joy is not necessarily the same as joy! Similarly, do not laugh necessarily the same as the laughter! If we think it, we are very gullible and easy prey for the seductive powers. Mormons call themselves the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints." Does that mean they really are sacred? Do you think right away that they are sacred because they say they are? Or you realize that the word can be misused? I can not strongly NOK emphasize how incredibly important it is that we do not let us dazzle of phraseology. We need to test the contents of the bag - not just read the writing on the outside!
Outside the "bag" we have before us in this study is the "laughter" in large letters. But that does not mean that we necessarily find true and healthy biblical joy on the inside!
The challenge we face is to "dive in" and really consider this sack content! We must address this very special kind of laughter and consider it as a separate, independent phenomenon. Forget the good, common laughter you know from before! What we should be considering now, is a supernatural, hysterical and uncontrollable laughter!
The question is whether this kind of laughter is mentioned in Scripture?
And the answer to this question is a definite NO! This special kind of laughter is not at all mentioned in Scripture. Reception and transfer of a hysterical and uncontrollable latterånd, is clearly something that is outside the biblical framework. Such a phenomenon is either exemplified or doctrinal mentioned in Scripture (check yourself using a Bible dictionary - the word laughter occurs approx. 40 times, it does not take very long to go through them). The Bible speaks of joy (Fil.4, 4) and laughter (Psalm 126.2), but never about this kind of laughter! Never!
As a point number two, we therefore argue that the phenomenon may clearly be labeled as outside biblical!
It can also be argued that if we have "returned to urkristendommen" as our motto, we should guard us well to seek experiences that urkristendommen did not know! Peter and Paul never transferred a hysterical latterånd to anyone!
We have established that the "holy" laughter is a supernatural and extra-biblical phenomenon. Warning bells should already now start calling! But let us proceed in our study, and now try to evaluate it against the biblical principles. Does laughter in line with these? Well, let's investigate.
I note that the use of scripture in which demons operations are described, does not automatically mean that I equate things. Rather I mean to use these passages as indicators of what the opposite of the divine is.
One of the characteristics of the "holy" laughter, among other things, that:
It is uncontrollable!
Just as there is a spirit seizes him .... (Luk.9, 39). In Scripture, we learn that the prophets are prophets spirits obedient (1.Kor.14, 32) and the fruit of the Spirit is self control! (Gal.5, 22 - abstinence is called in Greek "egkrateia" and actually means self-control!)
It's hysterical!
Our God is called the God of peace (see eg. 1.Kor.14, 33). In line with its own being, he gives his children peace (Fil.4, 7) and a "sound mind"! (2.Tim.1, 7). Spirit's desire is peace! (Rom.8, 6)
It is noisy!
Just as there is a spirit seizes him. It sets out a scream and tearing him ....( Luk.9, 39) all kinds of screaming to be far away from you (Eph. 4.31)! In quietness and confidence shall your strength be (Es.30, 15). Your adornment should not be ......., but a gentle and quiet spirit which is precious to God (1.Pet.3 0.3 to 4)
It creates confusion!
But let all things be done decently and in order! (1.Kor.14, 40) ... one at a time (1.Kor.14, 27). For God is not God of disorder but of peace God (1.Kor.14, 33)
It is shameful!
Before their lives just as worthy for Christ! (Fil.1, 27) Bath you sincerely to walk worthy of God (1.Tess.2, 12). Honor when God in their bodies! (1.Kor.6, 20)
Bizarre things follow in its wake!
By their fruits ye shall know them .... a bad tree can not bear good fruit (Mat.7 0.16 to 17) The evil spirit threw the man in the midst ...... (Luk.4, 35) It is not spoken well of!
Anything that is worth the honor, all that is spoken well of - heed it! (Fil.4, 8 Many will follow after them in their wantonness, and for their sake to the way of truth will be blasphemed (2, Pet.2, 2 (Unsaved people I've talked to who have seen a number of hilarious television or elsewhere, is appalled and shocked and feel disgusted with it).
We asked the question about the "holy" laughter acted in line with biblical principles? Based on the points noted above, it should perhaps not be so difficult to answer this question. Personally, I think certainly that's not particularly difficult to conclude that - the holy laughter does not work in line with the biblical principles!
So far in our assessment of laughter phenomenon, we have concluded that:
1. Laughter is a supernatural phenomenon.
2. Laughter is an extra biblical phenomenon
3. The laughter does not work after the biblical principles
Actually, these three points fully adequate as a basis for a biblical examination of laughter revival. One has here fully the necessary basis for deciding the phenomenon. I should still supplement with some additional material in the next chapter I will take me a little "surrounding" drug that indirectly also says something about the "holy" laughter.
Related links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_CkZWTvKBc
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/nr-39-emmanuel-minos-imposter.html
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