tirsdag 3. januar 2012

Nr. 179: Jesus - the truth itself - did not believe in the Trinity, but the doctrine of one God!

Nr. 179:

Jesus - the truth itself - did not believe in the Trinity, but the doctrine of one God!

Markus 12 29 Jesus answered him, The first is this: Hear, O Israel! Lord our God is one Lord.

Trinity doctrine and Jesus only doctrine are two avarter of the same false teachings and God's understanding!

Both Jesus Only doctrine and Trinity believe that such that the Holy Spirit is a Person Gude. Trinity believes that he was a God up in the space of eternity, before any, together with the Father and the Son. While Jesus was only the teachers believe that the Holy Spirit is a person who is the God who is present now on earth as God while the sky is now "empty". But what Scripture teaches? Not only that Jesus or the Trinity does. Let us go directly to Jesus and see what he taught about this and the relationship he had with this.

Jesus did not regard himself as the only true God, or that a person was like the Father.

Father is over all, even the Son. This claimed Jesus himself with great authority and power. Here above, Jesus said it himself that he kept to the Old Testament understanding of God and His creature. That he is one and no one is like him, this is not him, but God the Father himself.

Father is bigger than me and it is he who has given me everything was Jesus teaching

This I am saying here shows again and again that Jesus is subordinate to the Father and he is an emissary from him to show us the people and to show us people who the Father is.

Arrogance from many, especially those who believe in the Trinity

When I have discussed and seen so-called trinity doctrine advocates both discussed with and otherwise set their interpretations it seems that many, especially those who want to be Bible teachers. As a very pompous and over-arrogant, unfortunately. They know better than anyone, even a God and Jesus. Tragic but true! Pride of many Trinity knows no boundaries when the teaching is demonically inspired as the Jesus only doctrine is.

Jesus did not believe in the Trinity head

Jesus is the author of faith and its complement, one should not listen to him and let his words and the understanding that the Jews had on this count the most and be decisive. There were some areas that Jesus under the famous Jewish practice, among others. a. when it came to marriage. But their understanding of God he recognized, and much more. The Jews that Muslims reject the Trinity, even today, just as the word of God does.

Here are some scriptures to support what I wrote:

Joh. e. 10 29a My Father, who gave them to me, is greater than all. The Father is greater than all, even Jesus.

Joh. e. 17 3 and this is life eternal that they might know thee the only true God, whom thou hast sent, Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only true God but the Father.

Matt. 28. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying unto me is given all power in heaven and on earth. Notice that Jesus has all power, as from the Father, no one else. Satan had full power on the ground before the cross after cross, Jesus did it.

1. Kor. 15. put all things under his feet. But when he says that everything is subject to him, it is clear that he is except that under him all, 28 but when everything subject to him, then shall the Son even submit himself to him who put everything under him, ETERNAL God will be all in all. Here we see that Jesus conveys everything back to the Father.

Holy Spirit = God the Father

Jesus kept his spirit until he died.
2. Pet. 3. 18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring us to God, who suffered death in the flesh, but was made alive in spirit, 19 and in this he went away and preached to the spirits that were in custody.

Notice that Jesus was made alive in spirit. His spirit and the Father's spirit had been apart for 1 hours but after Jesus died so everything was "normal" and Jesus said the following:

Luke 11:46 p.m. And Jesus cried with a loud voice and said, Father! in your hands I commit my spirit! And when he had said this, he breathed.

But before this, Jesus had said when the holy spirit left him.

"But from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? It is: My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? "Food 27, 45-46

From twelve o'clock, when the sun was highest in the sky, the darkness break through. Such a gritty dark deed is now fully brought to the earth, that not even heaven's sun let her light shine upon it, - and heaven's sun, however, has its light to many a dark nidingsdåd in this world. But now when the hell evil, human sin, to the limitless, so not even the sun gives its light.
For three hours last night. What filled the soul of Jesus in these three hours, human thought than not knowing. The darkness beyond the world and became ever deeper and darker, - the dark into the heart of Jesus. And with the darkness came all the evil strong army and stormed unhindered away at our Saviour's soul.
The entire human sin towered up like a dark rock and separated the Savior from his own father. He looked only into the horror of sin and into the eternal darkness.
As darkness had lasted for three long hours that can accommodate an eternity of suffering, heard at last Jesus' voice. Before he has spoken of his executioners, or to his mother and his beloved disciple, and the robber at his side, now he speaks for the first time about himself to his father. And the few words he says, allows us to glimpse something of reconciling the deep soul of suffering: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
He says no longer "Abba", that word which so confidently had been on Jesus' lips. He says: "Eli, Eli." Darkness has even taken away the light beam of the Father's love of the Son suffering. When he began his ministry at the Jordan river, was the Father's voice of the Son: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Now when he ends his work at Calvary, heard the voice of the Son to the Father, but the word father is killed in a desperate "my God, my God."
What gave Jesus the power to emerge victorious from the Garden of Gethsemane, the awareness that the suffering was the Father's will. During each pain did this to him to hold out, it was part of God's eternal counsel to the family's salvation. But now even this resting point slipped staying away from him. Now burn a puzzled "why" of his fevered lips. That the people failed and shouted "crucify", he could understand. The fact that Judas betrayed, he knew from before. The disciples left him and left him all alone again, he also bow down, even if it hurt. But my God, my God, why have you forsaken me! It is your will that I am now fully laden, it is the loved humanity sins I zones - why have you forsaken me so?
And yet there was a fix again, and it never slipped. He said: My God. Yes, he said it twice to find the right attachment for both feet in the only clue that was left: My God, my God!
It says: Until the ninth hour! When darkness had again depart. From earth and from Jesus' soul. All times are in God's hands, including those three terrible hours the world has lived through. When God's clock turn, must give way armies of darkness, and Jesus' desperate angstrop is heard.

What happened then with Jesus? He was made sin for us, and when the holy spirit left him, he cried out the following: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" The Spirit is equal with the Father is safe, as holy spirit is not himself God, but a part of the Godhead. It must be the top of pride not to recognize that the spirit was there that Jesus left and then he shouted that it was the Father who abandoned him. I can not because this is what Scripture teaches, we can not adapt to our opinions of what should vote with the occult doctrine of the Trinity, God help us from doing anything like that!

Some aspects of the spirit

Scripture teaches that the Holy Spirit is part of God, yet he is called therefore "the Spirit of God" 1 Kor. 2.11, "Spirit of the Lord" 2 Cor, 3.17, and "the Father's Spirit" Matt. 10:20.

So simple, so clearly, so good is that, as big as that. Unfortunately, there has crept into a stranger learn Synod in Nicaea and later on various Catholic Church meets at 300-400's that spirit is a person. The kivdes if they have the spirit or Mary, the mother of Jesus as a third person in a God. Mary was not elected p.g.a. that it would have aroused too much revolt when she was a woman. Therefore, "found" out that it was easier to choose the spirit. All this is of course staged, of course, the evil spirits!

Where was the Father physically when Jesus died?

Scripture answers. He was in heaven, yet Jesus cried out that the Father had forsaken him one hour on the cross. Who left Jesus? Not his own spirit, it left him in the moment of death, but God's own spirit left him.
What Jesus cried out then?
Jesus cried out that the Father left him. Or was the holy spirit left him. Is the Father and the spirit the same? It teaches the writing, that the spirit is part of God, but no person.

Joh. e. 4 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.

God is spirit, therefore, it is grammatically correct to say that the holy spirit is a part of God but not God. Do you have to believe a lie to be biblical? No!
Must one believe that Jesus is a ventriloquist? No!
Scripture answers. This teaches the Bible. This was the first Christians' religious beliefs. " Not from Nicaea or elsewhere.

1. Kor. 8. 4b. that there is no God but one. 5 For if there are also so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth - for which there are many gods and many lords - 6 it is but for us only one God, the Father, by whom all is, and we to him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all is, and we by him.

Jesus did nothing without the Father showed him that, then it was the holy spirit of God the Father showed him what to do when the spirit is always followed him when it was home to him from conception to the last hour on the cross. Anointing of him was only in 3 1 \ 2 years why did not Jesus say anything until after the baptism in the Jordan, even though he was God's son for life and all the time.

Jesus was anointed with the spirit like you and me.

Acts 10. 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good and healing all who were overwhelmed by the devil, because God was with him.

And Jesus says that when the spirit informed him things, it was the Father who did it.

Joh. e. 5 19 Jesus answered and said to them: Verily, verily I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what he does, so does the Son also; 20 for the Father loves the Son, and shows him everything he does, and he will show him greater works than these, that ye will marvel you. 21 For as the Father will raise up the dead and gives life, so the Son gives life to whom he will.

Jesus title was never as the only true God

Jesus is the one who showed us who the true God was but he was not the true God, but his son. The two have a common spirit which is holy scripture says that the two are so holy holy spirit! Jesus is not God in the true meaning and sense, but the only true God, his son. Jesus never said about himself that he was God or the only true God. He is like God and the Father's life in him. This makes Jesus unique in conjunction with many other things. The angels in Scripture called Gods, therefore it is misuse and improper to make the title Jesus to God at all hours. This is to say that Jesus is God is something we can in some cases say also about the angels when they bl. a was involved in the creation and therefore was involved in the creation.

Jesus rejected the Trinity

When Jesus thought and taught that there were three gods from eternity to eternity, and he was one of them, I think you and I will refuse to believe and teach that, Hallelujah! You are free dear friend, to not let others charge you to think and believe like them. Study the scripture itself and find the answers there, I have done and are very happy and satisfied with it. Recommended! Ask also about hearts enlightened eyes and you're on the right track dear friend.

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scriptures daily whether it was just as it was told them.

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-173-fantasy-doctrine-god-holy-spirit.html

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