tirsdag 1. november 2011

Nr. 116: Jesus was not God but man on earth!

Nr. 116:

From my commentaries Philip Wiper letter 2 5 View the same mind as Christ Jesus!

This is one of the Bibles most important passages, as we shall strive to live accordingly. Egil Strand's Guide to the New Testament writes so great about this: Phroneo (mind) does not have to think about just purely theoretical and doctrinal, but having his mind, his will and desire knuttet to a thinker; phroneo is usually not neutral and passive thinking - except where it concerns common assessment, such as in Fil.1.7 - but normative and therefore carefully knuttet to a human subject, that is what the Bible calls the heart.
It goes on all the person's attitude adds myself to.

6 He was God, but did not see it as stolen to be equal with God.

Here is the very incarnation. Jesus as the firstborn and the only one who was fully equal to the Father and the Father shared everything with. Jesus was in his preeksistens with the Father from the ancient days of said Micah. But in the fullness of time he came into the world and became man. God Himself came down in Jesus Christ.

7 He renounced his own, took a slave and becoming like men. In his way he was as a human being;

We read several places about the intimate contact there is between the Father and the Son. Joh.e.17. 4 I have glorified you on earth when I completed the work you gave me to do. 5 And now I ask you, Father, give me the glory which I had with You before the world was. Jesus renounced the glory of two reasons.

1) It pleased the Father that Jesus showed 100% submission to his will.

2) When he was human he could expiate our sin and die in our place.

8 he humbled himself and became obedient to death-even death on a cross.

It was a humiliation for Jesus to be a man, and eventually suffered a criminal's death by dying on a cross. But he obeyed against his Father just as Isaac was in the 1st Mos.b.21. But Jesus was not only humbled in his death, his whole life was a humiliation to the way he was treated, ridiculed and opposed. It culminated in a completely without legal way to be judged in front of Pontius Pilate and later when the sentence was carried out at his death as a punishment.

9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and given him the name above every name,

Since he was so humiliated he was also raised. God has already elevated him but unfortunately it does not most people, but we as believers see it, hallelujah. Jesus has a name that is greater than everything. Disease, problems and afflictions, Kings, Presidents and all other names and titles!

10 that every knee shall bow in the name of Jesus, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

All present in the sky bent NOK for Jesus after his return, except the Father. But one day the whole earth to do it. Under the earth must be understood by all people who are dead and all the demons, Satan himself will one day bow to Jesus and had to admit that we are saved already do, Jesus is Lord!

11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to God the Father honor!

Now I mentioned this already in v.10. But, to confess Jesus as Lord is a sign of one is saved and born again. When Jesus is Lord there is none beside Him as Lord. Idols, head of state, religious founders, other skilled and talented people, but they will never close to Jesus because He is King of Kings and Lord of Lords (Åpenb.19.16) (end of quote).

I have written some articles on this topic, among others. a here: http://janchristensen.net/artiklerhoved.php?side=dode-gud-paa-korset

I was not aware that Smit's friends now Brunstad Christian Church taught much the same until someone made me aware of it. Takes a little excerpt here from their website: Who is Jesus? We can ask: Who was Jesus? The sources of the life of Jesus is first and foremost the Gospels in the New Testament. He lived and worked in Galilee, and he was crucified in Jerusalem during the Passover approx. 30 years Different sources say that when you were crucified, was put an inscription on the cross: Jesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum, Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews.

Many names
Messiah, the Savior, the Son of God and the Word are some of the designations used on Jesus. He often said the Son of man about himself. In the Old Testament we find prophecies about Jesus. The prophet Isaiah describe him as Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. The different names help us to understand who Jesus is, not only who he was.

The Liberator
Many of Jesus' contemporaries hoped that he was the one who would free Israel from Roman domination, and they were disappointed because it did not happen. But Jesus is the one that can set us free! In John's Gospel, chapter 8, Jesus says, if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. As human beings we would like to believe about ourselves that we are good and will do what is good. So we see that we still do what is evil, and it can cause no harm to others. The Bible expresses this so that we are trapped by evil, and it happens because human beings have a nature that it does not live any good in. If we believe in Jesus, we can help so we can be freed from sin's power over us, and we can begin to serve God. In his letter to the Romans, chapter 7, Paul writes clarification on this.

True God and true man
Many deny Jesus' divinity. They will claim that he was nothing more than a human being among other people, albeit one that we can look at as the ideal example.

We believe that when Jesus was in heaven, he was the true God. When Jesus was here on earth, he was a true man. He was born into the world, in a certain time, as a man of the same nature as us. In the Quran Jesus is mentioned as a great prophet who performed miracles and had a gospel to the people. Among Christians, the belief in Jesus as the Son of God central. Perceptions, however, divided when it comes to Jesus as both God and man. Many see Jesus as divine in the years he lived among men, and that he therefore had no fight against the evil in human nature. We believe that when Jesus was in heaven, he was the true God. When Jesus was here on earth, he was a true man. He was born into the world, in a certain time, as a man of the same nature as us. He had the Holy Spirit living in them. He was reminded by the Spirit, and was obedient to the Spirit guided him in. His work on earth was to conquer all sin in His human nature. When this was completed, he returned to God. Evangelist John writes in chapter 14 about how Jesus promised his disciples that they might receive the Holy Spirit so that they could gain power and help to keep His commandments.

The author of salvation
What God would do through Jesus Christ, was to complete his plan of salvation so that people can partake of God's eternal kingdom, and the right to live as his children. This explains Paul at the beginning of his letter to the Ephesians. Jesus experienced what it means to be human nature. It was like man he reached perfection. In the letter to the Hebrews, chapter 5 it says: Jesus lived as a man, asked him in distress, with loud cries and tears to Him who could save him from death, and he was heard because he was pious. Although he was Son, yet learned he obedience by suffering. When he had made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him.
Jesus is more than an example, he is our Savior.

The precursor
In his lifetime here on earth, Jesus was a human being like us. Therefore, we believe that he was tempted like bitterness and accusation, slander, envy and pride. But he dropped it into his mind. He was in distress and called out to God for help. Jesus was heard, and overcome the effects of human nature which he knew was a sin. He never gave in to the desire to do what is evil. Perhaps it was that when Jesus was tempted, he saw a cross. In his mind he nailed onto the cross the inclinations he knew to do sin. In this struggle against sin, he made such resistance that it figuratively cost blood. For it meant suffering to not give in to sin. But he held out until the very temptation to sin, was dead. By the Holy Spirit he was the power to overcome temptation. Jesus has told everyone who would follow him that he must deny himself and each day take up his cross. Who is Jesus? He is the one who teaches us to deny ourselves and take up our cross. He is our forerunner, and we can be His followers.

At a place called Golgotha, Jesus was nailed to a real cross. It was not just metaphorically, that it cost his blood. He died there.

Jesus is our helper in all situations when the heart pray for strength not to give in to temptations to sin. In the Gospel of John says that Jesus in his last hours knew that everything was finished. The deed God had sent him to do it, he had finished, he had done God's will. There was no sin in Jesus. He was without fault. Therefore God could raise him from the dead. Who is Jesus? He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the whole world, writes John in his first letter. Jesus is the atoning shoulder. He is our advocate, or with another word: our lawyer. When we have done something evil, and acknowledge it and ask for forgiveness, God will forgive us for Jesus' sake.

Jesus is our helper in all situations when the heart pray for strength not to give in to temptations to sin. Then we shall find mercy and grace to help in time, that so we do not sin. We can read about in the letter to the Hebrews, chapter 4 Jesus was the resurrection power of his victory over death, and this power, we can help with. It is grace to help in time.
Jesus is basically that we can have a life of goodness and love, and a life where we are at peace with each other. But how can we get a foretaste of heaven here on earth? How can we get to heaven, and to share in God's eternal kingdom?

Jesus is the way
We must know the way, and we must have an access card. God gives us access card to the sky. It has a printed text: Valid for all who obey Jesus! How can we find our way? If we read the Gospel of John, chapter 14, we get answers. Jesus comes to meet us and say: I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father [God] except through me (end of quote).

Jesus did not have our nature

I agree with most of this article when it is God's word. But it is claimed that Jesus had our nature, but it is not correct. Jesus' nature was more like Adam before the Fall, pure and innocent. While we humans are born with our flesh that will take us away from God to sin. Jesus was not the flesh and the sinful nature that we are infested with, but everything else that we humans are, and he was a man.

Rooms. 8. 3 It was impossible for the law because it was weak because of man's sinful nature, God did. For the sin he sent his own Son in the likeness of sinful men, and held conviction of sin in our nature.

Jesus also had a body made of the Father, not by some third person, but of the Father, the teacher writing, finished work!

Heb. 10. 5 Therefore says Christ at his coming into the world, sacrifices and gifts, you would not have, but a body made you able to me.

Jesus had a body just like Adam did it, but Jesus triumphed in all areas as opposed to Adam.

How Jesus won the victory

Should one believe those who believe in the occult, demonic and unscriptural doctrine of the Trinity as Jesus won the victory because he was God, but he let their Gudestatues home with the Father and got it back even more powerful after the resurrection. Jesus won the victory by virtue of its pure nature and the spirit.

Acts 10. 38 namely, that Jesus of Nazareth was anointed by God with the Holy Spirit and power, and that he went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed of the devil, for God was with him.

Who was Jesus in his preeksistens?

That Jesus had a preeksistens before he came to earth, I think many agree, but who was he and his creation. His creation, I have taken up so many times before that he is the firstborn and the first Father brought to pass, and he was the Father corpse.

In fact, missed the not so rough during the Nicene truvedkjenninga:

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, God einborne Son, born of the Father before all worlds, God of God, light from light, true God from true God, born, not made, of the same nature as the Father. When he is all created.

Jesus has come out of God the Father says it and the votes when he is not from eternity and is the only true God, it is only the Father.

See here for more: http://blog.janchristensen.net/2011/05/nr-97-er-jesus-en-engel-hadde-jesus-en.html

How Jesus lived here on this earth?

Joh. e. 5 17 But he said to them: "My Father works to this day, and I work."

Jesus was always guided and instructed by his father, God. Jesus was a rather down to earth on a special incentive but God the Father CERTAIN THAT! It was not three gods up there in heaven, who found out who should do what the Satanic Trinity asserts, it was Satan who wanted to be like God as the Trinity doctrine claims that Jesus was, was and shall always be, for some Satanic nonsense !

Jesus coming task

Jesus intercedes for us, the truth is very great.

Joh. e. 5 19 But Jesus answered and said to them:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself but what he seeth the Father do. The Father does, so does the Son. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. And he will show him greater works than these, so you will marvel. 21 For as the Father raises the dead and makes them alive, so the Son gives life to whom he will. 22 And the Father judges no one, but he has committed all Judgement to the Son, 23 so that all may honor the Son as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son, honors not the Father who sent him.

Jesus after the resurrection and the Judgement before the white throne is the one who reigns and shows us God's action. He is also the coming King of Kings and Lord of Lords during the 1000 year kingdom. But afterwards there when God the Father creates a new heaven and earth after all the wicked, and who follow Satan are destroyed, then surrender the Son Jesus Christ, everything back to the Father.

1. Kor. 15. 27 For "all he put under his feet." When it says it all, it is clear that God himself is exempt from this. For he is the one who put all things under him. 28 And when so everything is subject to him shall the Son also himself submit to God who put all things under him, and God shall be all in all.

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