Buddy - Sex at full speed into Christian churches ! And it is remarriage of believers , especially preachers who put the door open for this , nothing else!
Aril Edvardsen said, " that God has shown me " and all that God "had shown him" hit nothing , except everything was pretty much exactly the opposite . I was obviously in youth that the most important church of God is how a preacher and management responsibilities preach and practice . Where remarriage is like a cardinal sin. We see today that soon the entire Protestant Christianity is remarriage allowed, not least among the PinseKaresmatiske . This is like a great, great opener for all other sin !
Photo of Pastor Jan Hanvold which is the biggest "doorway" for sin and wickedness here in Norway with his life and realities . That I must point out this time after time is incomprehensible. He 'd only gotten one thing, one foot in the asses of the church of God !
From the newspaper Our Country 15 January 2014 :
Former catechist wants the church says yes to vennesex .
- I think she speaks for many, says bishop Tor B. Jørgensen about Marianne as in yesterday's Our Country did to advocate for those "who can not handle truth ."
The former catechist wrote that her need for closeness, intimacy and sex are covered " by some male friends in a similar situation ." She wants ecclesiastical recognition of the life she lives and challenge especially homosexuality liberals .
A clear message . - Although I would like to have a clear message it is okay that we are single too have a sex life , as long as things done in honesty , says Marianne to Our Country . She believes that the minority she represents , is much more " overlooked " than gays in the church. - I have become quite tired of so much in church debate has been about marriage. Most Norwegians are the no longer married, but to us saying the church that we must live without sex , says author letters to the editor that our countries have agreed to anonymize .
- Marianne travels great and important questions about a reality that could apply to quite a few. This is probably more widespread in Christian contexts than we care to admit , says Bishop Tor B. Jørgensen in South Halogaland .
DISCUSS : Vennesex the bishop's table
Unconditional sex ? - When you say yes to homosexuality , it is then natural to say yes to informal sex between Christian friends ? - No. You can not use sympathy with homosexual unions to suspend both heterosexuals and gays are committed to placing sexuality within a responsible framework. - Will an ecclesiastical recognition of extramarital sex force their way in the same way as it happened with the church's stance on gay relationships ? - There are already and will increasingly challenge the way we talk about extramarital sex. Then we come to the debate about cohabitation, and the church has not done finished yet , answer Jørgensen. Not made for monogamy ? - What would you say to Marianne , who thinks she is not made for monogamy and wanting recognition of the life she lives ? - Prejudices and utestengelsesmekanismene is not as strong as before. We are not a duvet lifting, but she must acknowledge that the Church does not recognize one 's sexuality as non embodies a clear expression of responsibility and commitment.
- Do you think Marianne live in sin?
- I think that her lifestyle does not match the ideals of our ecclesiastical tradition. The concept of sin seems I can be difficult to use . In the face of people who Marianne church must exercise caution and respect for human vulnerability , responding bishop in South Halogaland .
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This is only nitrist , but one followed by the other. Accepts a sin, so get one just accept "rest" too. Scripture says James 2 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law , and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all .
It is a spiritual law , opens one up for Satan " ajar ", then release than him soon enter . It is naive and incredibly stupid to think that we can open up for some sins and block others. Opens one up for some sins , then open a really up for anything !
Here is an article I wrote a year ago : Ranked # . 554 : When will group sex, swinging , zoophilia and pedophilia in among the believers ? Remarriage and homosexual practices are now allowed, the next must be even worse sins? !
From my commentaries Revelation 22 11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong , and the unclean continue in its filthiness ! Let the righteous still do what is right , and the Holy continue in sanctification . Now we return to what we otherwise find in God's word of truth and learning. We find the same in a prophet in the Old Testament that is often compared to John, the prophet Daniel . 12 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and refined . But the wicked will continue in their wickedness , and none of them will know anything. But the wise shall understand. The world is hopelessly lost , but what about Christians ? Do they go on and on with the Lord? Unfortunately it turns out that all too often a landscape by the way. But for those who walk with the Lord shall be glorious trek and glory . As believers we resemble more and more in Jesus as we walk with Him.
12 Behold, I am coming quickly , and My reward is with Me , to render to every man according to his work. We as humans will slither with the Lord. It is important to collect treasures in heaven than on earth. It is more precious than anything . The Bible gives instructions here too . Matt . 6 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness , and ye shall receive all the others as well .
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Alpha is the first letter of the Greek alphabet like A is in Norwegian . And Omega is the latest in the same alphabet just like in the Norwegian . Jesus is God's first creation and the last he will stand upon the earth . He is the first and the last . He is Alpha and , with all that it contains . Heb . 12 2 looking unto Him who is the author and finisher of our faith , Jesus. To get the joy he had in store , he endured the cross, despising the shame , and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God . We read again like many other places that Jesus is both the author and finisher . The dichotomy of Jesus is something that recurs . By his death and by his life , the last Adam , the second man etc.
14 Blessed are those who wash their clothes, so they get right to the tree of life and go through the gates into the city. We look up to people who get something . We feel sorry for people who fail. We think and talk like humans. But the real failure is failing to accept Jesus , and to really succeed is to accept Jesus . And if one reaches one day, when they have succeeded more than anyone else.
15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral , the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood . Now there are those who read this verse so that it is someone outside and are such as these. That's not true , there are those who live like this and want to believe . But they will never reach , whether they think. As living here mentioned . Paul speaks in 2 Tim . 3 of those living in sin . But they will in fact many of them also love God , but it is something they love more than God, " their appetites ." 2 Tim . 3 4 treacherous , rash, conceited . They love pleasure rather than God. ( end of quote ) .
We know that before, so was sexuelle sinner of the worst kind , where, among other things, sex with animals , known as zoophilia very prevalent here in Norway . Fortunately , God raised up He Nilsen Hauge and other Lutheran and Free Church revivals created something new here in Norway , but now what? That we in Norway have enjoyed it as well, no doubt under the influence of all revivals and influence of Christianity rather than anything else! But now what?
I'm so old that I not only theoretically know about this, but have followed developments since the 1980s was an explosion of breakups and later became standard in the world also standard in the church etc. It is now generally among the most faithful one acceptance or acquiescence of remarriage . Also among ministers and priests. This is ståa , and one would preach against this. So is he who keeps the words of God are seen to be difficult, not the person or persons who accept and practice remarriage among Christians. It's been like holding a red rag before a bull to tell that remarriage , or to marry a divorcee is for Christians to commit adultery .
The last "new" now that all bishops of the Norwegian Church provides full acceptance of gays. And when you include them PinseKaresmatiske provides full acceptance of remarriage , then the path clear for those who want to live in sin . Will one be homosexual as a being a believer and being a Lutheran . Will a separate and marry a believer , then, can one be a Pentecostal or karismatiker , the path is open for Satan my God church. Or is it not a church anymore?
We know that marital selection by the bishops in the Norwegian Church says yes to gay , also that they should get married and hold positions in the same skjøgekirken . And if we know that soon all over Norway frikirke accept not only remarriage , but can also be re-married as believers and to preach in the same skjøgebevegelsen , as it is for me not apostasy which is to come. But come, all because they loved and practiced the word of God .
Let us learn from history and look at Lot fell deeper than any other believers. Even though God's word says he was just so ended his life at the deepest tragically when he had children with his daughters and the children were opponents against God's people , the Israelites . We read that in the end will be like the days of Lot .
Luke 17 28 In the same way it was in the days of Lot .
Lot was a lukewarm Christian , yet fair.
2 Peter 2:7 And delivered just Lot , which bothered by the wicked
But how could Lot ending up in such a disability as he did? It is not the cardinal sin that Lot did with having sex with their own daughters who brought him yours, but what went before . Let's look at five ( five) things with Lot, who brought him into the curse and the sin which he had experienced in his life .
1 ) Lot was concerned with the material , then without putting the Lord first in their lives and their choices .
1 Genesis 13 10 Lot looked up and saw that the whole plain of Jordan was rich in water. Just to Zoar was the Lord that garden, Egypt . This was before the Lord had laid Sodom and Gomorrah deserted. 11 So Lot chose all the plain of Jordan and headed east. So they parted from each other .
The material is of course a prerequisite for living, but it should not be what drives and directs us ahead. For Lot saw was what he could get the most out of that "led " him , he never asked the Lord for advice about things. Abraham let Lot choose and he selected what the eye saw , not what the "inner " look and voice would . We as believers are called to let us lead and be ruled by God , Lot chose to be led and guided by what he saw and even thought .
2 ) Lot lacked or had no authority over other people, they affected him, but he did not affect them.
1 Genesis 19 4 But before they lay down , come all the men of Sodom , both young and old, from all parts of the city and surrounded the house . 5 They called to Lot and said to him, " Where are the men who came to you tonight ? Bring them out to us ! We want to have sex with them! " 6 Lot went out to them in the doorway , shut the door behind him 7 and said, "Brothers , do not act so wickedly ! 8 Listen Now! I have two daughters who have not been with any man. Let me bring them out to you, that you can do with them what you will . But against these men shall do something, they have found shelter under my roof . " 9 But they shouted," Move! " And they said," Here comes a stranger to live with us, and he will make to the judge! Now we do worse atrocities against you than against them. " They needed violently upon the man Lot, and came close to turning in the door. 10 Then the two men stretched out his hand and brought Lot into the house and shut the door. 11 men who were outside the house, both small and great, they struck with blindness. They struggled in vain to find the door .
Whether one is a warm or burning believers will unfortunately experience that others around a disrespectful then it will never be popular to be a God and believers in Jesus . Lot was considered to be a believer , but what do we see? Every time anyway, he never sought the Lord in their trouble. It is said that difficulties bring us closer to God . But many times also shows our difficulties what is in us and in our hearts and lives. For Lot was unnatural to seek God if it was easy or difficult. He was like a spectator of his own life , and it is usually not good, especially for believers !
3 ) Lot "shortage" of spiritual revelation that his uncle Abraham .
1 Genesis 18 16 The men rose up from there and looked toward Sodom . Abraham went with them to see well off . 17 Then he remembered the Lord, " Shall I hide from Abraham what I want to do? 18 Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation , and in him shall all the nations of the earth be blessed. 19 I know him, that he may instruct his children and descendants to keep the way of the Lord and do what is right and just. Then the LORD bring upon Abraham what he has promised him. "
There is a difference between believers , those with revelation and those without. Those who live entirely for God and those who do not. Thinking about my life before and after I was baptized in the Holy Spirit. Before Spirit baptism I was an anonymous believer, by the fullness of the Holy Spirit, one strong and courageous believers. The spiritual experiences has its great importance, just submit to God's word. Lot lived in Abraham , and as long as they lived under the same roof went well with Lot, but when he moved to themselves. It was when he fixed to live like a true believer .
4 ) He wife " betrayed " him , it 's hard to serve God when those who are closest does not go your way .
1 Genesis 19 22 Hurry , escape there! Because I can not do anything until you get there. "- Wherefore the city Zoar. 23 The sun had risen on the earth when Lot came to Zoar . 24 Then the LORD brimstone and fire rained on Sodom and Gomorrah - from the Lord out of heaven . 25 And he overthrew those cities , all the plain , all the inhabitants of the cities and everything that grew on the ground . 26 But Lot's wife looked back . When she became a pillar of salt .
We see that it is like an epidemic among all people in the western world with divorce and remarriage , and those peaks statistics in the U.S. a few years ago, the religious movement . After Lot's wife died also occurred the greatest tragedy in his life when he made his two daughters pregnant . Oh he's a good marriage is itself a worship service , and have a bad marriage , who can bear it ?
5 ) Lot had a liberal outlook and attitude to alcohol.
1 Genesis 19 33 And they poured wine for his father that night , and the firstborn went in and lay with her father. He did not notice that she lay down , not that she stood up .
Alcohol itself is not too bad , but given that everything else that we should enjoy it. But to drink so that inhibitions disappear and too much , it warns against the word of God . That 's daughters poured father was sure not the first time that they drank together , too much . Here they had seen God's judgment , yet they could do such a thing , can you understand that? The fire of God had rained on Sodom and Gomorrah , but what did Lot and his two daughters ? We read that they are getting drunk and Lot made his two daughters pregnant, it was incest and shame which were the fruits of it to drink too much alcohol. And it is possible for believers to , be a total abstinence , when we see the damage that alcohol has .
If we look at this together, so we understand why Lot ended up having children with his own daughters :
1 Genesis 19 30 Lot went up from Zoar and settled in the hill country along with the two daughters , for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He lived in a cave with his two daughters . 31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, " Our father is old , and there is not a man in the earth to come in to us as usual. 32 Come, let us pour wine for the father and lie with him, that we may sustain father's family , " 33 And they poured wine for his father that night , and the firstborn went in and lay with her father. He did not notice that she lay down , not that she stood up . 34 The next day the elder said to the younger, "Behold now, I lay last night with my father. Let's pour wine to him in the night too. Then you go in and lie with him, that we may nurture offspring by our father . " 35 Also that night poured the wine to his father , and the younger arose and lay with him. He did not notice that she lay down , not that she stood up . 36 Thus both the daughters of Lot pregnant by her father. 37 The firstborn bore a son and named him Moab. He is the father of the Moabites , who are to this day . 38 Also the youngest bore a son and named him Ben- Ammi . He is the ancestor of the Ammonites , who are to this day .
The lessons here are many, including that little sin is more sin. If we give Satan the little finger , he takes the whole hand .
What can we expect will happen to the Christian Norway ? It depends on two things , it is still dropping out or being the revival?
Without a true and profound revival which also homosexual , remarriage and others with a life that is Christ and the Word of God worthy of being asked without past the church door until they have repented . So we will end up in an even greater drop-out, which will lead to even worse than and perverse sins that are now beginning to spread herself (the world's people live today as well as Sodom and Gomorrah , where the church will also end if we do not repent ) . We must never think that Christians can get away without repentance . The spiritual and moral laws that work anyway. Lets say that said the little finger , or even more to Satan , so he takes both whole hand and the more.
Final Comment: What I 've tried to say here , and whatever else I write and preach ? Most profoundly, so goes our Christian life in two directions . Whether revival or apostasy ! There is no such thing as downtime or the golden mean when it comes to live with God. This allows everyone to ask themselves how it is with my life now ? I love God more now than before? I live by the word of God more now than before? Is Jesus my biggest role model in life? Am I living in sin or doing heresy ? It is these issues that are so important to ask oneself , not infrequently , but often!
Matt . 6 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness , and ye shall receive all the others as well .
The lesson of Lot and most what happens in the Norwegian and here in the western world within its Christian "world" is really easy. If we did not the Lord in the first place , he asks what God's word says about the advice in every situation we come up in. So we are all in danger of ending that Lot, or we can " get " what Abraham that prevailed after having done all ! ( end of quote ) .
Final Comment:
Where will this end? It will end in the great whore of Babylon where an apostate , corrupted , beside the point , misled and deceived Christianity will end , before being cast into the lake of fire together with Satan and destroyed because they did not follow the Lamb and God's clear words !
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