torsdag 19. januar 2012

Nr. 192: Lutheran baptism

Nr. 192:

Question: Hello!

I was on your website and read about baptism when I came across the following:
"Baptism \ Lutheran baptism ... I consider the form of baptism, and learn to be 100% human thoughts." I have some thoughts and questions

Around this statement.
I see the Bible verses you have the basis for this view, but also see that you have failed to take the Bible verses that are central in this context. What I wonder is what you are thinking about Acts 4:15 p.m.
"The Lord opened her heart and she took care of what Paul said. Along with everyone in her house, she was baptized"
How can we know that there were children who were baptized in this context? I'm curious what you think about this.
You also refer TLL Ap.gj.2.38. "Peter replied," Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ "and writes that one must be a believer to be baptized, implied that children can not be baptized because they can not express their faith at the age of 2 months. But the Great Commission is the order reversed on:
"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations: Rename them to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you." Here is the first rename them and then teach them. "In Paul's letter to the Romans we read that:" Consequently, faith comes by that message is heard and the message comes from the word of Christ. "
From this we can say that faith is the "doctrine" of the gospel. How do you explain that it is the reverse order of the Great Commission in relation to Acts 2? I'm not saying that the Bible is clear that baptism is the unique way, but lack a certain humility that it is not 100% certain that it is wrong to baptize their children when one is a Christian himself. General Christian Norway I miss humbled that the Bible is difficult to interpret and humility for other church vision.
"Must of patience and consolation God help you all to show agreement, after Jesus Christ's will. Then you ordinated and with one mouth glorify God, our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father. Take therefore accept one another as Christ has welcomed you, for God's glory . "

With kind regards,
Kristine

A:

Will divide my answer into sections so you can get a better view. You ask:

1) General Christian Norway I miss humbled that the Bible is difficult to interpret and humility for other church vision.

Answer: it is only to say Amen. The more we believers can call and ask together, the better!


2) What I wonder is what you are thinking about Acts 4:15 p.m.
"The Lord opened her heart and she took care of what Paul said. Along with everyone in her house, she was baptized"
How can we know that there were children who were baptized in this context? I'm curious what you think about this.

Answer: It was certain children there, how old is it. But notice what it says:

Acts 16. 38 So proclaimed the LORD * word for all that was in the house.

They were served on were those who managed to receive the message. Those who received the message were baptized. It is evident both in the writing and what is real that one must be able to receive word before one can be baptized. An infant can not this! Therefore, the cunning and go this far out of line mixing in baptism of infants or children here, doing one with a cabal.

We also read in Mark 16 15 He said:
"Go into all the world and preach the message to all skapninger.16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Notice that faith and baptism belong like a glove. Has a baby ever believed? Never! One must first ability to listen, then one can believe. When one has come to believe, then one should be baptized in Jesus' name with full immersion. When we learn and practice in overstemmelse with the first Christians.

3) Ap.gj.2.38. "Peter replied," Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ "and writes that one must be a believer to be baptized, implied that children can not be baptized because they can not express their faith at the age of 2 months. But the Great Commission is the order reversed on:
"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations: Rename them to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you." Here is the first rename them and then teach them. "In Paul's letter to the Romans we read that:" Consequently, faith comes by that message is heard and the message comes from the word of Christ. "
From this we can say that faith is the "doctrine" of the gospel. How do you explain that it is the reverse order of the Great Commission in relation to Acts 2?

A:

As said, the first faith, then baptism. That is possibly reversed in Acts and Matthew gives us no right to change the word of God. To teach them to obey everything Jesus has commanded is a process that will last a lifetime and more. We are all frail and need more and more of Jesus. Baptism is only the first and correct step in the believer's way.

Can not see that there are some passages that speak of infant baptism, only believer baptism by immersion for one have come to faith. When we are united with Christ - in His burial and resurrection - symbolically seen!

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/06/nr-7-baptize-in-three-titles-father-son.html

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