lørdag 10. september 2011

Nr. 25: Jesus says he and the Father come to us and will live in us believers!

Nr. 25:

Jesus says he and the Father come to us and will live in us believers!

Joh. e. 14 18 I will not leave you as orphans, I come to you. 19 In a little while, does not the world me more. But you see me, because I live, ye shall live also. 20 In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and that you are in me and I in you.
21 Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he that loves me shall be loved of my Father. I too will love him and manifest myself to him. "22 Judas, not Iscariot, said to him:" Lord, what is it that you will manifest yourself to us and not to the world? "23 Jesus replied:
Whoever loves me will stick to my word and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and dwell with him.

I have fronted a number of new truths, which have been necessary. There are a few of the "new" truths that I do not lie so much punch from God. Bl. a study of the second death. There has Adventists such a good doctrine and biblical teaching that those who want to know what God's word teaches about hell, just read what Adventists teach about here is exactly what the Bible teaches.

But when it comes to the sight of God and the Godhead, there is a pressure in my heart and write even more about it. The main reason as I see and experience it, is that it is so very little right and healthy teaching on this subject. Most Christians believe in the heresy here, be it Jesus only, or the Trinity is to be located in one side of the road or the ditch, both views are equally unbiblical and as incorrect! Therefore, I am trying by God's grace and help, to keep up what the word of God teaches and says about this subject. There is nothing new about this as there are so few who have learned and taught properly about this topic over the last 1700 years. In each case, of what is available to obtain either through books, online or otherwise. If left to go into this topic!

1) The Holy Spirit speaks - when God speaks.

We meet in writing words such as God speaks, he who has ears let him hear, etc. so we meet in Scripture that the Holy Spirit speaks. All these are different ways of dealing with the same: that God speaks. Spirit is the one that conveys everything from God the Father and Christ to us humans. We humans communicate something to others who are in a different place one's self, so it is with God.
Examples of the Holy Spirit is speaking:

Acts 13:2 While they held worship and fasting, said the Holy Spirit: Take out for me Barnabas and Saul for the work which I have called them!
Luke 2:26 and it was revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he should not see death before he had seen the Lord's anointed.
Acts 9:11 p.m., he came to us and took Paul's belt and bound his own hands and feet and said: Thus saith the Holy Ghost: The man who owns this belt, him shall the Jews bind thus in Jerusalem and the surrender of the heathen hands.

Examples of God speaks:
2Mos 3:15 And God said unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, Isaac, the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is my name forever, and then they call me from generation to generation.
Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man! Say to Tyre, 'prince' Thus says the Lord God: Because thy heart ophøier himself, and you say: I am a god, I'm sitting in a God-seat in the middle of the sea, though you are a human and not any god, but still in your heart you seem to be a god -

These are different ways to form the same truth that God speaks to us by the Spirit which I have experienced many times. Who spoke to me? It was God, of course, sometimes with a clear voice, sometimes by clear thinking and sometimes he speaks through other people too! Here we make a theological problem that is a blessing and of great spiritual and human meaning, God speaks personally to us by his Spirit, even today!

2) On the day of Pentecost there were not 120 people!

Acts 2. 1. When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together. 2 Suddenly there came a soft drink from the sky when it blew a strong wind and it filled the house where they were sitting. 3 tongues as of fire appeared, and they split up and sat on each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Spirit came and broke, why? There is only one Spirit who can divide, no person. When one makes the Spirit a person, then misunderstand one the most. No, it was God who came close to any of his own Spirit.

3) I will come to you, said Jesus.

We quoted from John. e. the very beginning that the Spirit would be sent, but who would come? I know you do not like it, but what does Jesus himself? We read in v. 21: I will love him and manifest myself to him. "And verse 23: My Father will love him, and we will come to him and dwell with him.
Here it is clearly and openly that the Father comes and takes residence in us, as does Jesus. How can this be? It is not so difficult, everything happens by God and the Spirit of Christ.

4) How many people in heaven?

We have looked into the sky a few places in scripture. How many people we meet there? Every time we meet two (2) persons. Not 1, 3, 4 but 2!
Read Daniel 7, Acts 7, and John. Revelation. 5. There, we meet always two, the Son of Man and the Ancient of days that was before anyone else; Father.

5) Is the man a three-or two-creature.

Man is really a twofold creature that God is there. Now I will not draw this so far, but since the Trinity is building its faulty theology on this, I will explain that although there are those mistakes and learn mistakes. When Paul teaches about this as he mentions that we are spirit, soul and body once but many times that we are an inner and outer man. That is what we find in the whole Bible, that we humans are a twofold creature, an inner and outer man. But the Bible portrays not a lot of what the outer creation is, it does however, medical science and others. But the inner creature, it portrays the Bible, where we have conscience, heart, spirit, soul, etc. This I will not explain here, just to contradict the Trinity here!

6) Elias Spirit, or even an extra person?

2. Kong. 2. 1. At that time the Lord took Elijah up to heaven in a storm, it went like this: Elijah and Elisha walked out from Gilgal. 2 Elijah said to Elisha, "Stay here, for the Lord has sent me to Bethel." But Elisha said, "As the Lord liveth, and as your soul lives, I will not leave you." So they went down to Bethel. 3 of the prophets at Bethel came out to Elisha and said to him: "Do you know that the Lord today will take your master from you?" He replied, "Yes, I know, me too. Hold your peace! "
4 Then Elijah said to him: "Stay here, Elisha, the Lord sent me to Jericho." He replied: "As the Lord liveth, and as your soul lives, I will not leave you." So they went to Jericho. 5 prophets in that city came to Elisha and said to him: "Do you know that the Lord today will take your master from you?" He replied, "Yes, I know. Hold your peace! "
6 Now Elijah said to him: "Stay here, for the Lord sends me to the Jordan." Elisha replied, "As the Lord liveth, and as you yourself live, I will not leave you." Then they went on together . 7 Then came fifty of the prophets in and stood opposite them at a distance, while the two stood by Jordan.
8 Elijah took his mantle, rolled it up and struck the water. When the shared waters, and both went over on dry ground. 9 As they crossed, Elijah said to Elisha, "Tell me what you want me to do for you before I am taken from you." Elisha said, "Let me get your spirit in the double goal!" 10 Elijah said, " It is not small, that you request. But if you see me when I am taken from you, you shall have it, otherwise not. "
11 As they walked and talked, there came suddenly a chariot of fire with ildhester ahead and separated them from each other. And Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. 12 When Elisha saw it, he cried: "My father, my father! Israel's chariots and horsemen, "When he could not see him anymore, he took hold of his clothes and tore them in two pieces. 13 Then he took up Elijah's mantle that fell from him. He went back and stood on the banks of the Jordan. 14, where he took the cloak that had fallen from Elijah, struck the water and said: "Where is the Lord God of Elijah?" When Elisha struck the water, split it, and he went over.
15 prophets from Jericho, who stood opposite Him, saw this and said: "The spirit of Elijah rests on Elisha." And they came against him and thrown to the ground before him.

Taking the whole story as it is very rich. Elisha received a double portion of Elijah Spirit, that is a lot more than what the Prophet himself had had. So it is today, we need more of God than ever, even those who have gone before us. What does it mean to get a double portion? In Israel, when someone would inherit and father had three sons, such as inheritance was divided up into four, the oldest son got a second party. We read further that Elisha was the testimony that he was Elijah Spirit, what is meant by that? He was, of course, like himself and "imitated" him in everything, even when it came to do miracles. It is having the same Spirit. We must follow the scriptural pattern and not add on an extra person, sometimes we meet the Spirit. We must never add that there is an extra person without one encounters a person with a will, there is what makes someone to be called a person. That they \ it has a body and have a will, none of this is the Holy Spirit, ergo, no person!

7) The Baptism in the Great Commission.

Matt. 28. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in as the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

It says that we should baptize in a name, not two or three. Which name baptized the first Christians? It is not difficult to learn, it is only to look in the other Gospels and the Acts that the early Christians were concerned to do everything in one name. It was in the Lord Jesus Christ, in no other name. In the name drove out demons, healed the sick, preached, baptized and prayed to the Father in heaven, all in the name of Jesus!.

Markus 16 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they will cast out demons, they shall speak with tongues. (Note that Jesus said it himself:
"In my name").
Luke 24 47 and that his name should be repentance and forgiveness of sins is preached to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (In his name or rather, in Jesus' name).
Joh. e. 20 31 But these are written that ye might believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that ye through faith may have life in His name. (In his name once again).
Ap.gj.2.38. Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, every one of you, that ye may receive forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the Holy Ghost.
Ap.gj.10. 48.Så he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay with them a few days.
Ap.gj.19.5. After hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord.

Paul taught the same in the letters, it is knuttet up to Christ and no other:
Rom. 6. 3 Or know ye not that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
Gal.3.27. as many as are baptized into Christ have iklædd you Christ.

We meet only a practice throughout the NT when it comes to baptism, they were baptized in the name of who Jesus said in Matthew 28, it was his own name. Baptism is a symbolic act of the union with him, we read several places in the NT, especially in Romans 6 We are united with Jesus in everything and thereby death away from law, sin, and anything else that can be painful and require some of us. And we are in baptism united with Him in Spirit and sharing in the same power that raised Christ from the dead!

8) Spirit is that which is behind a person.

They are also about Daniel that he had a high spirit, and then you can also have a low spirit.

Daniel 6 4 But Daniel distinguished himself above the national ministers and satraps, because it was a lofty spirit in him, and the king thought to set him over the whole kingdom.

This is to tell us what qualities we have in our relationship with God when God is Spirit and we have contact with him goes on a spiritual level, not on the intellectual and the intellectual. If one followed the theory of the Trinity as had been quite a lot of people after a while every time one encounters Spirit, nay the whole Trinity is an absurd and rather unbiblical doctrine that was "christened" at various church meetings when the Catholic Church broke out on the 300-number, It has been 1700 years of deception and now there will be NOK!

9) Do we believe the dogma or the word of God?

From Wikipedia: Dogma is a term used to refer to a belief or doctrine that in many types of belief systems and organizations are regarded as authoritative, or as absolute truth.
That the Trinity is considered to be a dogma eler a common Christian doctrine, it is high time that this will be reconsidered as it is neither a Christian teachings and that one can find coverage in the word of God, the doctrine is originally from the fumble Egypt and the ancient Greece from the occult and the demonic world. Where is the origin of the doctrine, and we find throughout the Bible cautions against believing in polytheism, even if it claims to be Christian dogma and common beliefs. The doctrine is occult, demonic and originates from Satan himself would make himself like God, it is a rebellious teachings against the only true God the Father!

10) What does the Spirit? Or what is Spirit?

"And the Spirit of God hovered over the water surface." Already in the Bible's second verse introduces us to God's Spirit. And as God's Spirit or Spirit of the Lord is the term mostly used throughout the Old Testament (OT). It is the New Testament (NT) that really introduces the concept of the Holy Spirit.
Dog is also used in the NT the term Spirit of God, and in several places the phrase Spirit of Jesus, or just Spirit.
The Hebrew word for Spirit, Ruach, comes from the base word to breathe / breath, and is not a proper name or title. Equivalent means the Greek word for spirit in the NT, pneuma, also breathing. So be it a pun when Jesus Joh.3, 8, said: "The wind blows wherever it wants, and you hear the whistles, but you do not know where it comes from, and whither it goeth, so it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit. " It is pneuma, both where we have translated into the wind and the Spirit in Norwegian!
And in what contexts, the word spirit in the Bible?
In addition to mean a person's life-breath ("Dangers of his spirit, so he returns to his earth, on the same day it's over with his thoughts advice." Salm.146, 4), describes a person's inner; thoughts , emotions and mentality, in short everything that is not body. ("When my spirit languishes within me, you know, however, my path" Salm.142, 4, and "In my heart I muse and my spirit searches." Salm.77, 7)
The Bible uses the same word for spirit (Ruach in GT and pneuma in the New Testament) about an evil spirit, or when our spirit of an evil character. Examples of this are found in 1 Samuel, the 16th Chapter, and in the 4th Genesis 5:14.
As mentioned above, is the spirit often mentioned in contrast to the body. In Matt. 26.41, Jesus says: "Watch and pray lest you fall into temptation, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak".
Paul explains this in Romans. 8.5 to 10: "For those who live after the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live by the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For the flesh mind is death, but spiritual minded is life and peace.
For the flesh mind is enmity against God, for it bends not under the law of God and have no ability to do so. Those who are in the flesh can not be pleasing to God.
But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. If someone does not have the Spirit, he hears him not to.
And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness. "
(Alternation between large and small letter in the "spirit" can be confusing and can be both misleading and indicative, when neither Hebrew or Greek because the text is case sensitive.)

11) Your Holy Spirit.

Psalm 51 13 Cast me not away from thy presence and take not thy Holy Spirit from me!

David pray this prayer, that God will not take His Spirit from him. When we read God's words carefully, as everyone should learn to do. So we find not the Holy Spirit referred to by name or anything like that, why? Because he never defined in scripture as a person and he is of course not.
Note the wording: "Your Holy Spirit." Just as we have a Spirit, God has it, why are we writing again and again the Holy Spirit is referred to as God and Jesus Christ's Spirit. Here are some examples:
Room 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if God's Spirit lives in you, but anyone not the Spirit of Christ, when he is not him.
1 Peter 1:11 as they ransacked what or what kind of time the Spirit of Christ, who was in them, showed up when he assumes testified about Christ's suffering and of glory after that;
1 Peter 4:14 If Haan for Christ's sake, is the blessed, because the glory and the Spirit of God rests upon you.

Jesus only doctrine and the Trinity is just as unbiblical in their own way. Trinity doctrine by creating a triad of God where all three gods in some arbitrary trinity are equal. Something that is neither biblical or true.

Jesus only doctrine to waive Jesus to be God's son literally when they claim that the demonic doctrine is, that Jesus should cease. No, Jesus, we live with for all eternity!

I reject both of these teachings as unbiblical, unhealthy and untrue!

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