tirsdag 11. oktober 2011

Nr. 81: Prayer response can also be manipulative and counterproductive!

Nr. 81:
Prayer response can also be manipulative and counterproductive!

You've sure never heard before, yet it is a fact that we humans let us inspire by things that are given us by the Creator, even if some do not know him and empty deny and curse him!

Fork 8:11 Because sentence against the evil deed is not executed immediately, therefore swells the heart of the children of men, that they dare him to do what is evil.

We need to understand that while we are down here to accommodate it's not that the one who will live Godly go off everything and those who do not, everything goes gærent for. Before I got saved, I had the best life in many ways, just like Asaph describes a pagan in Psalm 73, it was me. But after I got saved and baptized in water and the Spirit of the tables were turned on the head. When was the first suffering, then glory.

Sin and all that one can achieve in this world, swells up in the human heart and think that everything is fine and there are those who assume that everything good in life is "God bless" something it probably is!

Look at the pastors Peter Ljunggren and Jan Hanvold with more!

They look like they are doing, no obstacles here. Both are some decent round burner and two so similar that it could have believed that they were identical twins, if one did not know that one was Swedish and one Norwegian. Adultery me here and there and fucking t.o.m. own secretaries and others in God's name and marries again not just once but several times. Both say they are guided by God, even though they obviously are led by their flesh, nothing else.
God never goes against his own words, to satisfy our carnal needs. They get sort of wonderful answers to prayer and many believe in them, but is it God? Everything God does, that's right with the Scriptures, but do it here when one also has sex with Preti and kleti and I do not know what? Of course this is demonic and they are both completely safe demon-possessed for such may never be able to perform in the name of Jesus and all that is in contact with these will also get to experience that demons attack and hit them, even empty to death in some cases. We read several places in scripture that become ill and die prematurely if you do not follow Jesus all the way as a believer. It is better not to bring Jesus to do if a want and desire as a believer to live a double life.

1. Cor. 11. 30 Therefore, many weak and sick among you, and many falls asleep. 31 But if we judged ourselves, we were not sentenced, 32 but when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

These false apostles are under Satan's command and stay healthy happy and fast, but those who come in contact with them often die prematurely and inflicted suffering not from God but from the evil. Therefore, it is about to do to realize that Jesus himself has said how it will go with the false apostles and the false prophet who claims that they will pray answer me here and there.

Matt. 7. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord! Lord! will enter the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does my Heavenly Father. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, Lord! Lord! have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out devils in thy name done many wonderful works in Your name? 23 And I will not testify for them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity!

This is of course a lot, but that applies to many Pentecostal \ Charismatic preachers, I am convinced. Think of Pastors Peter Ljunggren and Jan Hanvold and many others like Jim Bakker, Benny Hinn, Todd Bentley, etc. They fuck everyone they come across, whether it's nannies, secretaries, and I do not know what, this is completely outrageous and completely behind the goal, and so begins the always new marriage with new confused and seduced women, where will it end? Yes, do not hesitate to marry again with anyone who says yes, this is God's men. Should one say no to force and manipulate a forward one, yes, God can not stop them then when he is to them, where will this madness and manipulation end? That there are many who defend this only makes it more embarrassing and forførisk if you ask me! January Hanvold screamed out here on the radio in Oslo at 107.7 to hell with anyone who does not agree that I am re-married, right after he said that he had better sex now with his third "wife" one of the two forje, where the sick one should be ?
The Apostle Peter says they are insatiable. What does insatiable here? Can not be satisfied and extremely greedy. This is the perfect description for pastors mentioned above, even though the "Father of Minos," "Father Ostby," "Father Yri" and "Mother Lise Karlsen" endorsement of Pastor January Hanvold time after time, the Hanvold secure the largest rogue only much worse when he goes out in the name of Jesus. It's horrible, outrageous and completely unreal that this is possible if you ask me. But in the end times they will take care teachers in droves as they want it to suit the flesh and not Jesus and His true message.

There are other examples of "answers to prayer" that has brought more negative with a positive, let me briefly mention a few. This is written us to learn why we must always pray and seek one thing: God. Has any progress and others do not, look at their lives and the fruits of their service and law, it is the norm and it is essential.

Matt. 7. 15 But beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves! 16 By their fruits shall ye know them: Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs from thistles? 17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree can not bear bad fruit, and a bad tree can not bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire. 20 Therefore shall ye know them by their fruits.

Here are two examples of "answers to prayer" that God has not sanctioned even wonders happened. We need to say to learn from. I myself have experienced utålige answers to prayer, but I live Christ lives today is what I should be measured on.

Israel was filled with teetering, but the penalty came with their defiance and rebellion displeased the Lord.

4. Genesis 11 1. But the people murmured, and this displeased the Lord: for the Lord heard it, was his wrath kindled, and the fire of the Lord struck down among them and consumed some edge in the camp. 2 And the people cried to Moses, and Moses prayed to the Lord, and the fire was extinguished. 3 And he called this place Taberah, because the fire of the LORD had struck down among them. / 4 But the sammenløpne hop that came with them, was seized by the desire unity; also the children of Israel began again to lament him, saying, If only we had meat to eat! 5 We remember the fish we ate in Egypt for nothing, pumpkins and melons and the leeks and onions, and garlic. 6 But now languishing soul, for there is nothing, we see nothing in our eyes than manna. 7 Manna was like coriander seed, and in appearance it was like bdellium. 8 people ran hither and thither gathering and ground it in mills or support it in the mortar and boiled it in pots and made cakes of it and it tasted like oil cake. 9 When the dew fell upon the camp at night, when the manna fell down with it. 10 And Moses heard the people weep throughout their families, everyone at the door of his tent, and the Lord's anger was kindled greatly, and Moses was displeased over. 11 Then Moses said to the Lord: Why hast thou ill with your servant, and why have I not found favor in your eyes, since you have the burden of all this people upon me? 12 Have I conceived all this people, I was born there, since you said I should carry it in my bosom, as the nurse carries the sucking child, and bring it to the country you have sworn to their fathers? 13 How should I have flesh to give unto all this people? For they come weeping to me and said, Give us flesh to eat! 14 I am not able to bear all this people alone, it's me too hard. 15 Do you want to do so to me, kill me instead of once, if I have found favor in your eyes, and let me not see my wretchedness! 16 Then the LORD said to Moses: Call me with seventy men of the elders of Israel, the ones that you know is the people's elders and their overseers, and you should take them with you to the tent, and let them set themselves up there with you. 17 Then I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take of the spirit that is upon thee, and lay on them, so they can carry the burden of the people with you, and you should not carry it alone. 18 And the people shall say, Sanctify yourselves for tomorrow, you shall have meat to eat, since I have cried to the Lord and said: If only we had meat to eat, for in Egypt, we had it good. Now the Lord will give you meat, so I can eat. 19 Not just one day you shall eat of it, and not two days and not five days and not twenty days, 20 but a whole month, until I no longer tolerate the smell of it, and it offers you receive, because I despised the Lord, which is in the midst of you, and wept before him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt? 21 And Moses said: Six hundred thousand men on foot count the people I followed, and you say: I will give them flesh, that they may eat a whole month! 22 Should there then slaughtered so many sheep and cattle to them that there is NOK for them? Or shall all the fish of the sea gathered together for them, so there will be NOK for them? 23 Then the LORD said to Moses, Is the Lord's arm too short? Now you shall see whether it will move you as I have said, or not. 24 So Moses went out and announced the Lord's words to the people, and he gathered seventy men of the elders of the people and let them ask themselves around the tent. 25 Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to him, and he took of the spirit that was upon him, and put on the seventy elders, and what happened when the spirit rested upon them, then spoke the prophetic words, but since they did no more. 26 But there were two men left in camp, one named Eldad, and the other Medad, and the spirit rested upon them, for they were among the opskrevne, but they had not gone out to the tent, and they prophesied in the camp. 27 As a boy ran out and told it to Moses and said, Eldad and Medad prophesy in the camp. 28 And Joshua son of Nun, who had served Moses from his youth, spoke up and said, My lord Moses, forbid them there! 29 But Moses said to him: Are you jealous for my sake? I wish all the Lord's people were prophets, would the Lord would put His Spirit on them! 30 So Moses went back to camp, both he and the elders of Israel. 31 And there went forth a wind from the Lord, and it brought quails from the sea and scattered them over the camp, about a day's journey on one edge and about a day's journey across the border round about the camp and about two cubits above the earth's surface. 32 When the people stood up and went throughout the day and all night and all the next day and gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers. And they spread them out around the camp. 33 But while the meat was still between their teeth, before it was completely consumed, burned the Lord's anger against the people, and the Lord let it be a very great slaughter among the people. 34 And they called this place Kibroth-hattaavah, because there they buried those who had been so keen.

Israel complained and asked simultaneously. They were "great" answers to prayer, yet it was not the right answer when they had displeased the Lord with his growling, who had promised to provide them with manna from heaven and everything else they needed to mine in the desert. To get answers to prayer is not always a sign of whether we have it right with God, for God makes his sun and his blessings to rise on good and evil scripture says. And there is power in His name we also growls when we pray!

4. Genesis 20 2 But the church had no water, when they gathered themselves against Moses and Aaron. 3 And the people kivedes with Moses and said, Oh that we had perished at the time of our brothers perished before the Lord! 4 Why have you brought the Lord's church into this desert, so we must die, both we and our cattle? 5 And why have ye brought us up out of Egypt, so we have come to this evil place, where it does not grow grain or figs or vines or pomegranates, and where there is no water to drink? 6 And Moses and Aaron went from the people, the door of the tent, and fell on his face, when the glory of the LORD appeared to them. 7 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 8 Take the rod and shell assembly together, thou and Aaron thy brother, and I will speak to the rock in the middle of their eyes, and she will give water from him, so shall you let water flow out of the rock for them and give both people and their livestock to drink. 9 So Moses took the rod that lay ahead before the Lord, as the LORD had commanded him. 10 And Moses and Aaron called the congregation together before the rock, and he said to them: Now, I rebelled! Sun, we can allow water to flow out of you, this cut? 11 Then Moses raised his hand and struck with his rod the rock twice, then poured that much water, so both people and their livestock drank. 12 But the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me and not sanctified me for the sight of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this people into the land I have given them. 13 This was Meribah water, where the children of Israel kivedes with the Lord, and he dedicated himself to them.

Moses prayed to the Lord and he was told to speak to the Rock. He had once before been told also to turn on the rock, but now he was to speak. He did not do as God had said, but struck the Rock twice in defiance but allikvel miracle happened. God is the sub-circuit God even when His servants who fail here. But think, Moses saw the miracle and p.g.a. he did not enter the promised land. I believe in prayer, bønnhørelse and all that, I've seen a million times that God listens, responds and the miracle is a fact! But having a right life and a clear, biblical teaching is of major importance.

Would also say that it is very important to not be so concerned with just what God will use us, but that we are loved for who we are. I studied in young Brother AA Allen was a wonderful man of God. But I think he was so captivated by the God sanctioned in his life, he almost nagged itself out. He prayed and fasted much, and God answered and sanctioned his life and ministry as we read in Acts but he had kidney stones and other things of too much fasting and prayer. Finally, he drank a bit and did other things because that he was exhausted and tired. It is allowed to be tired, but then it is better Ata to vacation and leave everything to the Lord. It is not our work we are doing, but God's work is therefore to be and we also need to surrender everything to him, be it the results and everything else.

Conclusion: It is the overall life that is of greatest importance. When we live right, pray to the Lord and sanctify ourselves, then we are safe and secure way. When we become one with the word and become one with us, this is where God wants us to thaw at any time!


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