tirsdag 22. september 2015

No. 1034: Willingness to change in our country, perhaps they are not so far away anyway?

No. 1034:
Willingness to change in our country, perhaps they are not so far away anyway?

 
After the newspaper Our Land wrote about me for one week side on an incorrect and in my view incorrectly. So I have written an article on the and been in contact with them. After much back and forth so they look like they want to change things, finally! And listen to my version of the case. Posting correspondence between us, so that one can see that after all when the willingness to listen and change there, then everything goes so much, much better!

Photo of me Jan Kåre Christensen as they will take for all it's worth, why? Because I preach what God's word says about marriage and ability to convey that soon all the Pentecostal / charismatic movement more like a bluff to work than as a revival movement when people such as Jan Aage Torp can be accepted within its the ranks as an apostle with a Apostel Center!

 
This I wrote to VL:

 The newspaper Our Land completely proven trying to put me in a bad light that I am a vulgar and primitive "Christian". But here they meet themselves in the door!Torp hated me and my preaching about remarriage. So he finds it somewhat cheated, he tries to find some words and sentences I've written that he goes to the police with. As the manipulator and scam he is, so he manages to trick police. Vips, a case Torps advantage. But this will never guaranteed succeed! What Torp doing, is a violation of the ninth commandment: 2 Genesis 20 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.This says Torp to Our Country and Searchlight after he has delivered the fictional review of mine ar goal is get a final judgment to go to Google with it. So they get removed me from the search engines their, in other words. The entire review is nothing else than to achieve anything other than what I have been reviewed for! For a crook Torp is!

The newspaper Our Land acting improperly, unspiritual and trying to put me in a most bad light in advance of the trial against adulterer and fornicator January Aage Torp!
This prints Our Lands journalist Erlend Friestad: "Thursday must Pastor Jan Kåre Christensen appear in court, charged with having called pastor Jan-Aage Torp" whore buck "and" dirty old man ".
I have written this? And where and when? It has certainly occurred, but all this has been removed. But I have not written this as a passthrough tone, so this is really a misquoted.
It shows again that our country is a rotten and corrupt newspaper!
And it's strange, this is written perhaps long ago once, this citing those of me. And then they write the next sentence that there are 200 articles about the same topic. Then it is a fabricated lie that the newspaper Vårt Land are doing to me.
I write exclusively what scripture says about those gjengiftede as believers.
THEY ARE whoremonger, nor adulteress. EKTEKSAPSBRYTERE AND LIVING IN SIN, there is a written OWN WORDS, THIS fractured I SOLELY, AT LEAST NOT WHAT I'VE GONE IGEJNNOM the past year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our Land will be a Christian newspaper, then one would expect it was a different take on this matter what God's word says about Torps rolpeoppførsel?
I would expect that, but here they are worse than even what not believers, talk about being a deceptive newspaper!
Here are some of the slant Our Land could and should have taken for themselves.
1) To report a brother or a Christian when a self is a believer, is 100% God's word.
This made Torp, why not mention this?
2.) To bear false witness against anyone who Torp has done, is also in breach of the ninth commandment.
Why not write about this?
3.) Torp is a model for the others, a pattern of the flock.
Then he will be a woman's man and not re-married, why do not tilt Our Country this in here?
4.) That the police is exclusively for me, is really no different than Christianity persecution. Why mention Our Country this and nothing more?
This was the most positive with what they wrote, they mentioned how I saw it all!
5.) Bible teachings about marriage and remarriage, I see they never write about.
But page after page about the homosekulle and lesbians, this is such a lopsided frode ling as they should and should have done. In the same Bible says that both live as a homosexual and be re-married as believers, are sin!
Final Comment:It's good that Our writes about this very important issue. It is not important because I, Torp or police are involved in this matter, it is much more important than that. That's because God has said in His word time after time that remarriage is sin for believers, after a break, we as believers only two choices. It's either to reconcile ourselves with our spouse or live single. This is not what I or any so-called radical and conservative Christians believe. Not weird and abnormal, we are either, but mostly law-abiding and good citizen. We believe in God and the word of God, nothing else! Does not make us into something remarkable people who almost have Rabla for, it tries Torp with me. Therefore, he called me for so much ugly and fabricating lies about me all the time.
Torp called homosekuelle for scum and they should be removed from any position in society etc. about me, he has written and said this: "If you wanted a" desire opponent ", then Jan Kåre Christensen" perfected ".
Moreover writes Torp that I am stalker, totally unintelligent, a Nolde "hat blogger", idiot, demon, desire lies, vile blogs, outcasts who lack the mind of Christ, ordinary judgment and social intelligence. "+ More!
Moreover what scripture says about believers who are divorced?
1 Cor. 7. 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate from her husband;
11 but divorced him, then abiding she being unmarried or be reconciled to her husband - and a husband should not divorce his wife.
Yes, they will either reconcile or live solitary.
And what scripture says about marrying a divorced?
Luke 16 18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.
What is it really all trying to do with me?
They will not have until I asserts a thing to the best of poor ability, what scripture says!Yes, marriage is for a lifetime! Heralds a new relationship, as scripture says that they are adulterers, fornicators / women and live in sin. That have occurred by all that is written in our blogs and our website, it is because that Torp played with high and low for something to get taken me in after I have pointed out what scripture says about remarriage, in other words: "THE WHOLE CASE BASED ON FALSE CHARGES FROM JAN AAGE TORPS SIDE, THIS SHOULD NOW NEWSPAPER OUR COUNTRY been joined ?????????????????????? »

 
I get this answer: Thanks for the email.

 
1. The words you're criticizing us for having printed, is fetched from the indictment. You admit in your mail moreover, you write them. Your assertion error quoting and rottenness is thus due Lause.

 
2. Feel free to argue that our Country should scrutiny privacy of pastors. But the language you use in this email, core not in print.

 

 

 

3. To the extent you believe Torp has used these words you denominator about you and write what you win, you must document it.

 

 

 

Best regards

 

 

 

John Morken

 

 

 

Debate Editor

 

 

 

I answered this: Thanks for the reply Morken!

 

 

 

But my point is that if someone writes crap about one, what does it mean? Really nothing!

 

 

 

It is whether it is true or not, or? Torp has written much about me, and others. Why so little writings about it? Because it is not true. But what I have written about Torp is unfortunately all true, +++ more.

 

 

 

When I started writing about him and speak against him, I have actually made of cloth such an extent that if I could have strength so I could have written ten times more than what I have written. The whole man and the apostolic movement to which he belongs, I believe comes within its the apostasy that is described in the Word of God will happen and be in the end time.

 

 

 

Taking just a few words that describe a very apostasy in the last days, therefore is really Torp interesting when he belongs to a movement that also benefits other people with them.

 

 

 

This from Wikipedia: Torp was in July 2013, was appointed to "convening Apostle" for all of Europe within the organization European Coalition of Apostolic Leaders falling under the International Coalition of Apostolic Leaders, an association of leaders in the charismatic movement.

 

 

 

(end of quote).

 

 

 

This I have not been able to write about. Torp is so extreme, the ability to be the leader of a Apostolic business, it's me incomprehensible.

 

 

 

Torp has such thoughts about himself that actually Anders Behring Breivik is not as pompous even in their view of themselves. Torp is both Apostle and belong to an Apostolic movement and now has an Apostolic center etc. Although he lives in blatant adultery, I do not understand me at Christianity in Norway that allows such that a leader can be re-married as a believer! Neither Biblical or Apostolic it, except that we must obviously have false apostles to do ?!

 

 

 

No, everything I've written about VL voices, you're trying to throw shit over me and mention very little about other things that it really should and should been written about!

 

 

 

See here for apostasy in the last days as the Bible describes:

 

Matt. 24. 11 and many false prophets will arise and deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love will grow cold most.

 

 

 

Luke 18 8 I tell you that he will hasten to help their cause. But when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?

 

 

 

1 Tim. 4. 1. Now the Spirit speaketh clear words that in the coming times shall certain fall away from the faith, as they join themselves to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 by hypocrisy of false teachers, who are seared in their own conscience.

 

 

 

2 Tim. 3. 1. But this know, that in the last days there shall come perilous times. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unreliable, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power - and these should turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts and 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 As Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 Dog, they should not get more progress; for their folly shall be manifest to all, as theirs also came.

 

 

 

2 Tim. 4. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts take themselves teachers in droves, because the itching ears, 4 and they shall turn away their ears from the truth and turn to adventure.

 

 

 

I regret that I have called Torp an old pig and whore buck, but this has been removed. Why escapes you in VL on this? But it is not punishable, but needless to write such as the Bible's own words are more than good enough such that adulterers / adulteress, adulterers and sinners etc.

 

 

 

Of course in order to defame me and this is unserious. Torp went with an fictional review of mine where he hated me for pointing out that he is re-married and he's in a movement that is steeped false.

 

 

 

Who knows all this about Torp which I have written (really started to straddle when there is so much material that I only have a fraction).

 

 

 

Once I was aware of these words stood on the blog so I removed them. And so much material we have on the blog and our website, then it's probably not hard to find something wrong?

 

 

 

It did Torp and has unfortunately succeeded in deceiving so many of its programs. But God's word says about such following: "Dog, they should not get more progress; for their folly shall be manifest to all, as theirs also was. "

 

 

 

Someday enough both you and more see that I was right, but type away. I have the advantage that I can change me, and try to become a better person. But you escapes the eternal at the same whimpering!

 

 

 

Have a nice day still!

 

Mvh

 

Jan Kåre Christensen

 

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0672 Oslo

 

Tel: 22611610/99598070

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An additional mail to me:

 

 

 

PS! It is bad and deeply unchristian of you, is that I have admitted that this has been on the blog as a mistake. This uses ye receive me !!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But what I want to put forward, it writes you not. I do not want it to be on the Heavenly blog that Torp is a dirty old man and a whore buck, but that it should be and it says that he is an adulterer and his "new" wife is an adulteress! And Torp is an adulterer and live in sin, that Jesus and the apostle Paul (not apostle January Aage Torp) said about those who were re-married again as a Christian or believer!

 

 

 

Mvh

 

Jan K

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From Our Land: Hello

 

 

 

This is still not EiT debate, and therefore set eg stroke for this dialogue with you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards

 

 

 

John Morken

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I write: Jan Kåre Christensen makes no representations regarding what has been left on the blog about Jan Aage Torp!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do not want it to be on the Heavenly blog that Torp is a dirty old man and a whore buck, but that it should be and it says that he is an adulterer and his "new" wife is an adulteress! And Torp is an adulterer and live in sin, that Jesus and the apostle Paul (not apostle January Aage Torp) said about those who were re-married again as a Christian or believer!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is bad and deeply unchristian of you, is that I have admitted that this has been on the blog as a mistake. This user you can be against me, it is not just spiritual.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's what I stand for today as it is crucial. After I was informed that this was, I changed it immediately. On the Heavenly blog, other blogs and our website there are seas with articles, commentaries, books and more. There will always be some words and expressions that one had to change if one becomes enlightened about it. It is for a being confronted with things, showing what a really stands for. Anyone can slip with a word and a sentence, this is used here against me for all it's worth. Even after we have changed this for 1 year ago!

 

 

 

Mvh

 

Jan K

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From Our Land: Ok

 

 

 

But since words are fetched from the indictment, you should well denominator it.

 

 

 

 

I write at the end:

 

 

 

No, the police have nothing on me. Therefore they keep on like that.

 

 

 

And I can change me. WHEN A ALKEHOLIKER and addicted to drugs may change, how much more I that has always lived a disciplined and GOOD LIFE?

 

 

 

Have a nice day still!

 

 

 

Mvh

 

Jan K

 

 

 

 

Furthermore, between me and VL.

 

 

 

Our Land writes:

 

 

 

You must answer what is documentable facts: Our Lands nyhetsavdelingi have fetched this from court papers. It can not deny, so you are doing

 

 

 

Best regards

 

 

 

John Morken

 

 

 

 

I answer: I have changed anything for a year ago, which was slap expression. It was true, but since the police hung up in it. So I changed the spur immediately and let into what scripture says about Torp.

 

 

 

This was only written once Torp and once Hanvold as far as I remember it. Both spots are whore buck removed and entered adulterer as scripture says about these persons. Old pig is also removed and nothing is placed there in instead I think?

 

 

 

At Our Country mentioning this constant, it is bad and improper! But now you have finally though that this stand we in Smyrna Oslo and I'm not too!

 

 

 

NB! This was done 1 year ago! And I'm always open and willing to change me to become a better person!

 

 

 

Have a nice day still!

 

 

 

PS! The police have nothing on me, so they try to hang something on me!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mvh

 

Jan K

 

 

 

Our Land writes:

 

 

 

The procedure belongs at home in court. This right is the fact that we have fetched these words from straight documentary. It is not a phenomenon posts in the papers this way.

 

 

 

I answer:

 

 

 

Then I have no more to answer!

 

 

 

I was in police questioning of one year ago. Where they pointed out what they disagreed with me. I changed right away on what I thought was right and proper, that which I did not agree with, it says there. What more can I do? I am then not a perfect man who always write what I really mean. But I get confronted with it, so I change it. But for me this is a trifle, and this issue is more about for me that it's false accusations Torp comes with.

 

 

 

Torp has not reviewed me that I have harassed him etc. but because he hates my preaching. Where I manage to put the right words on things like divorce, remarriage. Seduction and deception in charismatic movements, false apostles etc.

 

 

 

I have no more to say than that this has been removed for 1 year ago and what more can I do? Apart from regret that it has been there. I also met Torp conflict council on January 8, and there I offered him to go through all that I have written and spoken, if possible, change something. This declined Torp among and called me by tender on Facebook that he had met a demon. I have offered Torp and police "everything", but whatever I'm doing and not doing. Everything is and remains gærnt. I write a word again, I'm a criminal. I write a word 100 times, then I am criminal. No matter what I do and not do, then rubs me and will take me, and unfortunately you in VL is helping this to reproduce what they say and not what I say!

 

 

 

But not a phrase or a word that is written in the Heavenly blog I consider as punishable etc. But this is nothing else than Christianity persecution by the police against me, staged by "Pastor" Jan Aage Torp!

 

Have a nice day still!

 

 

 

Mvh

 

Jan K

 

 

 

 

Final Comment:

 

I am glad that our country finally realized that what they were doing was no good and right and proper although police and Torp doing it. I've always been willing and able to change. And does not keep things in perpetuity. I used slang expressions, okay. Penalties Bart is not! But I have also taken this away, therefore it is incorrect both of Our Country, police and Torp to seep on something that is not 'me'! What is 'me' is the following, which I repeat once more (my last mail to Our Country):

 

 

 

The indictment? Police are now no Christian people, they smear and lying sadly.

 

 

 

The point is that you should be a Christian newspaper? Or are you not? I changed this to one year ago and that Christian is the word change significantly.

 

 

 

You escapes about the same as Torp and police, it is directly unchristian and primitive.

 

 

 

We have so much material pass out online through our blogs and on the website that there is certainly some words and expressions that we do not stand within its. When we try to change this.

 

 

 

A drug addict and alcoholic who is changing, escapes you the same thing over and over again what he did? It makes the evil. Therefore, the police and Torp do no good, but you in VL does exactly the same thing ?!

 

 

 

This I wrote: PS! It is bad and deeply unchristian of you, is that I have admitted that this has been on the blog as a mistake. This uses ye receive me !!!!!!!

 

 

 

But what I want to put forward, it writes you not.

 

 

 

All right! But this you can take in:

 

 

 

Jan Kåre Christensen makes no representations regarding what has been left on the blog about Jan Aage Torp!

 

 

 

I do not want it to be on the Heavenly blog that Torp is a dirty old man and a whore buck, but that it should be and it says that he is an adulterer and his "new" wife is an adulteress! And Torp is an adulterer and live in sin, that Jesus and the apostle Paul (not apostle January Aage Torp) said about those who were re-married again as a Christian or believer!

 

 

 

It is bad and deeply unchristian of you, is that I have admitted that this has been on the blog as a mistake. This user you can be against me, it is not just spiritual.

 

 

 

That's what I stand for today as it is crucial. After I was informed that this was, I changed it immediately. On the Heavenly blog, other blogs and our website there are seas with articles, commentaries, books and more. There will always be some words and expressions that one had to change if one becomes enlightened about it. It is for a being confronted with things, showing what a really stands for. Anyone can slip with a word and a sentence, this is used here against me for all it's worth. Even after we have changed this for 1 year ago!

Mvh
Jan K

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/09/no-1032-kangaroo-trial-exposed-is-it.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/09/no-1031-hat-pastor-jan-aage-torp-which.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/09/no-1027-hat-police-manglerud-think-on.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/08/no-1013-false-apostle-and-fool-tag-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/06/no-979-jan-aage-torps-new-law-lost.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/06/no-977-arvid-bentsen-sick-because-he.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/04/nr-279-christian-people-of-norway-are.html

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