Willingness to change in our country, perhaps they are not so far away anyway?
After the
newspaper Our Land wrote about me for one week side on an incorrect and in my
view incorrectly. So I have written an article on the and been in contact with
them. After much back and forth so they look like they want to change things,
finally! And listen to my version of the case. Posting correspondence between
us, so that one can see that after all when the willingness to listen and
change there, then everything goes so much, much better!
Photo of me
Jan Kåre Christensen as they will take for all it's worth, why? Because I
preach what God's word says about marriage and ability to convey that soon all
the Pentecostal / charismatic movement more like a bluff to work than as a
revival movement when people such as Jan Aage Torp can be accepted within its
the ranks as an apostle with a Apostel Center!
The newspaper Our Land acting improperly, unspiritual and trying to put me in a most bad light in advance of the trial against adulterer and fornicator January Aage Torp!
This prints Our Lands journalist Erlend Friestad: "Thursday must Pastor Jan Kåre Christensen appear in court, charged with having called pastor Jan-Aage Torp" whore buck "and" dirty old man ".
I have written this? And where and when? It has certainly occurred, but all this has been removed. But I have not written this as a passthrough tone, so this is really a misquoted. It shows again that our country is a rotten and corrupt newspaper!
And it's strange, this is written perhaps long ago once, this citing those of me. And then they write the next sentence that there are 200 articles about the same topic. Then it is a fabricated lie that the newspaper Vårt Land are doing to me. I write exclusively what scripture says about those gjengiftede as believers.
THEY ARE whoremonger, nor adulteress. EKTEKSAPSBRYTERE AND LIVING IN SIN, there is a written OWN WORDS, THIS fractured I SOLELY, AT LEAST NOT WHAT I'VE GONE IGEJNNOM the past year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our Land will be a Christian newspaper, then one would expect it was a different take on this matter what God's word says about Torps rolpeoppførsel? I would expect that, but here they are worse than even what not believers, talk about being a deceptive newspaper!
Here are some of the slant Our Land could and should have taken for themselves.
1) To report a brother or a Christian when a self is a believer, is 100% God's word. This made Torp, why not mention this?
2.) To bear false witness against anyone who Torp has done, is also in breach of the ninth commandment. Why not write about this?
3.) Torp is a model for the others, a pattern of the flock. Then he will be a woman's man and not re-married, why do not tilt Our Country this in here?
4.) That the police is exclusively for me, is really no different than Christianity persecution. Why mention Our Country this and nothing more? This was the most positive with what they wrote, they mentioned how I saw it all!
5.) Bible teachings about marriage and remarriage, I see they never write about. But page after page about the homosekulle and lesbians, this is such a lopsided frode ling as they should and should have done. In the same Bible says that both live as a homosexual and be re-married as believers, are sin!
Final Comment:It's good that Our writes about this very important issue. It is not important because I, Torp or police are involved in this matter, it is much more important than that. That's because God has said in His word time after time that remarriage is sin for believers, after a break, we as believers only two choices. It's either to reconcile ourselves with our spouse or live single. This is not what I or any so-called radical and conservative Christians believe. Not weird and abnormal, we are either, but mostly law-abiding and good citizen. We believe in God and the word of God, nothing else! Does not make us into something remarkable people who almost have Rabla for, it tries Torp with me. Therefore, he called me for so much ugly and fabricating lies about me all the time.
Torp called homosekuelle for scum and they should be removed from any position in society etc. about me, he has written and said this: "If you wanted a" desire opponent ", then Jan Kåre Christensen" perfected ". Moreover writes Torp that I am stalker, totally unintelligent, a Nolde "hat blogger", idiot, demon, desire lies, vile blogs, outcasts who lack the mind of Christ, ordinary judgment and social intelligence. "+ More!
Moreover what scripture says about believers who are divorced?
1 Cor. 7. 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate from her husband; 11 but divorced him, then abiding she being unmarried or be reconciled to her husband - and a husband should not divorce his wife.
Yes, they will either reconcile or live solitary. And what scripture says about marrying a divorced?
Luke 16 18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.
What is it really all trying to do with me? They will not have until I asserts a thing to the best of poor ability, what scripture says!Yes, marriage is for a lifetime! Heralds a new relationship, as scripture says that they are adulterers, fornicators / women and live in sin. That have occurred by all that is written in our blogs and our website, it is because that Torp played with high and low for something to get taken me in after I have pointed out what scripture says about remarriage, in other words: "THE WHOLE CASE BASED ON FALSE CHARGES FROM JAN AAGE TORPS SIDE, THIS SHOULD NOW NEWSPAPER OUR COUNTRY been joined ?????????????????????? »
I get this
answer: Thanks for the email.
1. The words
you're criticizing us for having printed, is fetched from the indictment. You
admit in your mail moreover, you write them. Your assertion error quoting and
rottenness is thus due Lause.
2. Feel free
to argue that our Country should scrutiny privacy of pastors. But the language
you use in this email, core not in print.
3. To the
extent you believe Torp has used these words you denominator about you and
write what you win, you must document it.
Best regards
John Morken
Debate Editor
I answered
this: Thanks for the reply Morken!
But my point
is that if someone writes crap about one, what does it mean? Really nothing!
It is
whether it is true or not, or? Torp has written much about me, and others. Why
so little writings about it? Because it is not true. But what I have written
about Torp is unfortunately all true, +++ more.
When I
started writing about him and speak against him, I have actually made of cloth
such an extent that if I could have strength so I could have written ten times
more than what I have written. The whole man and the apostolic movement to
which he belongs, I believe comes within its the apostasy that is described in
the Word of God will happen and be in the end time.
Taking just
a few words that describe a very apostasy in the last days, therefore is really
Torp interesting when he belongs to a movement that also benefits other people
with them.
This from
Wikipedia: Torp was in July 2013, was appointed to "convening
Apostle" for all of Europe within the organization European Coalition of
Apostolic Leaders falling under the International Coalition of Apostolic
Leaders, an association of leaders in the charismatic movement.
(end of
quote).
This I have
not been able to write about. Torp is so extreme, the ability to be the leader
of a Apostolic business, it's me incomprehensible.
Torp has
such thoughts about himself that actually Anders Behring Breivik is not as
pompous even in their view of themselves. Torp is both Apostle and belong to an
Apostolic movement and now has an Apostolic center etc. Although he lives in
blatant adultery, I do not understand me at Christianity in Norway that allows
such that a leader can be re-married as a believer! Neither Biblical or
Apostolic it, except that we must obviously have false apostles to do ?!
No,
everything I've written about VL voices, you're trying to throw shit over me
and mention very little about other things that it really should and should
been written about!
See here for
apostasy in the last days as the Bible describes:
Matt. 24. 11
and many false prophets will arise and deceive many. 12 And because iniquity
shall abound, the love will grow cold most.
Luke 18 8 I
tell you that he will hasten to help their cause. But when the Son of Man
comes, will he find faith on earth?
1 Tim. 4. 1.
Now the Spirit speaketh clear words that in the coming times shall certain fall
away from the faith, as they join themselves to seducing spirits, and doctrines
of devils; 2 by hypocrisy of false teachers, who are seared in their own
conscience.
2 Tim. 3. 1.
But this know, that in the last days there shall come perilous times. 2 For men
shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers,
disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unreliable, false
accusers, incontinent, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 traitors,
headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a
form of godliness but denying its power - and these should turn away. 6 For of
this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden
with sins, led away with divers lusts and 7 always learning and never able to
come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 As Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so
do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the
faith. 9 Dog, they should not get more progress; for their folly shall be
manifest to all, as theirs also came.
2 Tim. 4. 3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after
their own lusts take themselves teachers in droves, because the itching ears, 4
and they shall turn away their ears from the truth and turn to adventure.
I regret
that I have called Torp an old pig and whore buck, but this has been removed.
Why escapes you in VL on this? But it is not punishable, but needless to write
such as the Bible's own words are more than good enough such that adulterers /
adulteress, adulterers and sinners etc.
Of course in
order to defame me and this is unserious. Torp went with an fictional review of
mine where he hated me for pointing out that he is re-married and he's in a
movement that is steeped false.
Who knows
all this about Torp which I have written (really started to straddle when there
is so much material that I only have a fraction).
Once I was
aware of these words stood on the blog so I removed them. And so much material
we have on the blog and our website, then it's probably not hard to find
something wrong?
It did Torp
and has unfortunately succeeded in deceiving so many of its programs. But God's
word says about such following: "Dog, they should not get more progress;
for their folly shall be manifest to all, as theirs also was. "
Someday
enough both you and more see that I was right, but type away. I have the
advantage that I can change me, and try to become a better person. But you
escapes the eternal at the same whimpering!
Have a nice
day still!
Mvh
Jan Kåre
Christensen
Hook path 2
c
0672 Oslo
Tel:
22611610/99598070
An
additional mail to me:
PS! It is
bad and deeply unchristian of you, is that I have admitted that this has been
on the blog as a mistake. This uses ye receive me !!!!!!!
But what I
want to put forward, it writes you not. I do not want it to be on the Heavenly
blog that Torp is a dirty old man and a whore buck, but that it should be and
it says that he is an adulterer and his "new" wife is an adulteress!
And Torp is an adulterer and live in sin, that Jesus and the apostle Paul (not
apostle January Aage Torp) said about those who were re-married again as a
Christian or believer!
Mvh
Jan K
From Our
Land: Hello
This is
still not EiT debate, and therefore set eg stroke for this dialogue with you.
Best regards
John Morken
I write: Jan
Kåre Christensen makes no representations regarding what has been left on the
blog about Jan Aage Torp!
I do not
want it to be on the Heavenly blog that Torp is a dirty old man and a whore
buck, but that it should be and it says that he is an adulterer and his
"new" wife is an adulteress! And Torp is an adulterer and live in
sin, that Jesus and the apostle Paul (not apostle January Aage Torp) said about
those who were re-married again as a Christian or believer!
It is bad
and deeply unchristian of you, is that I have admitted that this has been on
the blog as a mistake. This user you can be against me, it is not just
spiritual.
That's what
I stand for today as it is crucial. After I was informed that this was, I
changed it immediately. On the Heavenly blog, other blogs and our website there
are seas with articles, commentaries, books and more. There will always be some
words and expressions that one had to change if one becomes enlightened about
it. It is for a being confronted with things, showing what a really stands for.
Anyone can slip with a word and a sentence, this is used here against me for
all it's worth. Even after we have changed this for 1 year ago!
Mvh
Jan K
From Our
Land: Ok
But since
words are fetched from the indictment, you should well denominator it.
I write at
the end:
No, the
police have nothing on me. Therefore they keep on like that.
And I can
change me. WHEN A ALKEHOLIKER and addicted to drugs may change, how much more I
that has always lived a disciplined and GOOD LIFE?
Have a nice
day still!
Mvh
Jan K
Furthermore,
between me and VL.
Our Land
writes:
You must
answer what is documentable facts: Our Lands nyhetsavdelingi have fetched this
from court papers. It can not deny, so you are doing
Best regards
John Morken
I answer: I
have changed anything for a year ago, which was slap expression. It was true,
but since the police hung up in it. So I changed the spur immediately and let
into what scripture says about Torp.
This was
only written once Torp and once Hanvold as far as I remember it. Both spots are
whore buck removed and entered adulterer as scripture says about these persons.
Old pig is also removed and nothing is placed there in instead I think?
At Our
Country mentioning this constant, it is bad and improper! But now you have
finally though that this stand we in Smyrna Oslo and I'm not too!
NB! This was
done 1 year ago! And I'm always open and willing to change me to become a
better person!
Have a nice
day still!
PS! The
police have nothing on me, so they try to hang something on me!
Mvh
Jan K
Our Land
writes:
The
procedure belongs at home in court. This right is the fact that we have fetched
these words from straight documentary. It is not a phenomenon posts in the
papers this way.
I answer:
Then I have
no more to answer!
I was in
police questioning of one year ago. Where they pointed out what they disagreed
with me. I changed right away on what I thought was right and proper, that
which I did not agree with, it says there. What more can I do? I am then not a
perfect man who always write what I really mean. But I get confronted with it,
so I change it. But for me this is a trifle, and this issue is more about for
me that it's false accusations Torp comes with.
Torp has not
reviewed me that I have harassed him etc. but because he hates my preaching.
Where I manage to put the right words on things like divorce, remarriage.
Seduction and deception in charismatic movements, false apostles etc.
I have no
more to say than that this has been removed for 1 year ago and what more can I
do? Apart from regret that it has been there. I also met Torp conflict council
on January 8, and there I offered him to go through all that I have written and
spoken, if possible, change something. This declined Torp among and called me
by tender on Facebook that he had met a demon. I have offered Torp and police
"everything", but whatever I'm doing and not doing. Everything is and
remains gærnt. I write a word again, I'm a criminal. I write a word 100 times,
then I am criminal. No matter what I do and not do, then rubs me and will take
me, and unfortunately you in VL is helping this to reproduce what they say and
not what I say!
But not a
phrase or a word that is written in the Heavenly blog I consider as punishable
etc. But this is nothing else than Christianity persecution by the police
against me, staged by "Pastor" Jan Aage Torp!
Have a nice
day still!
Mvh
Jan K
Final
Comment:
I am glad
that our country finally realized that what they were doing was no good and
right and proper although police and Torp doing it. I've always been willing
and able to change. And does not keep things in perpetuity. I used slang
expressions, okay. Penalties Bart is not! But I have also taken this away,
therefore it is incorrect both of Our Country, police and Torp to seep on
something that is not 'me'! What is 'me' is the following, which I repeat once
more (my last mail to Our Country):
The indictment?
Police are now no Christian people, they smear and lying sadly.
The point is
that you should be a Christian newspaper? Or are you not? I changed this to one
year ago and that Christian is the word change significantly.
You escapes
about the same as Torp and police, it is directly unchristian and primitive.
We have so
much material pass out online through our blogs and on the website that there
is certainly some words and expressions that we do not stand within its. When
we try to change this.
A drug
addict and alcoholic who is changing, escapes you the same thing over and over
again what he did? It makes the evil. Therefore, the police and Torp do no
good, but you in VL does exactly the same thing ?!
This I
wrote: PS! It is bad and deeply unchristian of you, is that I have admitted
that this has been on the blog as a mistake. This uses ye receive me !!!!!!!
But what I
want to put forward, it writes you not.
All right!
But this you can take in:
Jan Kåre
Christensen makes no representations regarding what has been left on the blog
about Jan Aage Torp!
I do not
want it to be on the Heavenly blog that Torp is a dirty old man and a whore
buck, but that it should be and it says that he is an adulterer and his
"new" wife is an adulteress! And Torp is an adulterer and live in
sin, that Jesus and the apostle Paul (not apostle January Aage Torp) said about
those who were re-married again as a Christian or believer!
It is bad
and deeply unchristian of you, is that I have admitted that this has been on
the blog as a mistake. This user you can be against me, it is not just
spiritual.
That's what
I stand for today as it is crucial. After I was informed that this was, I
changed it immediately. On the Heavenly blog, other blogs and our website there
are seas with articles, commentaries, books and more. There will always be some
words and expressions that one had to change if one becomes enlightened about
it. It is for a being confronted with things, showing what a really stands for.
Anyone can slip with a word and a sentence, this is used here against me for
all it's worth. Even after we have changed this for 1 year ago!
Mvh
Jan KRelated links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/09/no-1032-kangaroo-trial-exposed-is-it.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/09/no-1031-hat-pastor-jan-aage-torp-which.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/09/no-1027-hat-police-manglerud-think-on.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/08/no-1013-false-apostle-and-fool-tag-jan.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/06/no-979-jan-aage-torps-new-law-lost.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/06/no-977-arvid-bentsen-sick-because-he.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/04/nr-279-christian-people-of-norway-are.html
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