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torsdag 10. september 2015
No. 1026: If Jan Kaare Hanvold had died today, and he is re-married as believers, what had been his end? What scripture says?!
No. 1026: If Jan Kaare
Hanvold had died today, and he is re-married as believers, what had been his
end? What scripture says?!
is Jan Kaare Hanvold death in his own sins and transgressions! LEVER DA IN A
SELF DECEPTION, AND OTHER seductive.
Photo of a
lake of fire all will be destroyed in that can not be found worthy to be in the
world! Not eternal torment, but annihilation teach God's word will happen to
Satan, the Antichrist, the False Prophet, the Fallen angels, demons and all the
people who did not accept salvation through Jesus Christ and continued to live
this "pot" all ports in the end, how it will take place, nobody
But it takes
time is certain when it will take an age or dispensation this judgment. It will
take 100, 200 or 1,000 years to wipe out all the wicked and unbelieving? I
think it will take and be an ongoing judgment over a longer period of time! As
a form of trial!
He says that
he has a right to have a wife, but Scripture says the opposite!
If Jan Kaare
Hanvold drop dead today, then what happens to him after the Word of God? And
all others who do not have a saved soul? Who does not live in repentance and
Jes Christ, God's Son cleanses him when he lives as an adulterer, fornicator
are twofold teaches writing.
An inner and
an outer man. When we died physically as it is only the outer man as dead,
while the inner man goes to the paradise if one is saved and born again. As
Hanvold and all others who live in their sins and are dead in their trespasses
so goes his inner man Hades. Where prevails Satan, the fallen angels and demons
is an unknown quantity. They are like a number of myriads.
In Sheol is
also part fallen angels locked up as a warning for the other fallen angelsnot
to do the same as they did. They lay with the daughters of men and had hybrid
children. This displeased God so strongly that they are then locked in this
prison. But what is hell? As I see it, and that I believe the Bible speaks
about this topic, this is an intermediate state between being alive and
sleeping. And there is an intermediate state between life on earth and the
judgment before the white throne.
I think that
those who are then in hell can wake up and get up. But without a physical body
that they no longer have. A new physical body, only those who are found worthy
to be part of the world to make, not those who are not found worthy of this!
Hanvold and all others who are lost come to life again? And get an opportunity
to possibly come within its God with their lives and things are being done
the proviso that Hanvold living with his third wife who is not his wife. And do
not make up his sin until he runs out of time, in other words, he dies in that
state he is today! What happens then?
1,000 years of peace kingdom and Satan gets a card game, then comes the
judgment before the white throne. This is them last and final judgment on all
people, what we learn in the creed. The last last day!
saying Hanvold trapped there, but if he dies today, so he finds himself where
warranted by the word of God. No sinners come into the church of God says in
Psalm 1, this applies above all in the congregation who will be there. There
are those who can "fool" in which he had come into the wedding
without a wedding garment on which we read in Matt. 22. People may be fooled,
but not God.
Hanvold will not perish because he helps poor children in Moldova, but because
he lives in a "void" marriage!
This is from
my commentary Revelation regarding the judgment before the white throne:
20. 10 And
the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
where the beast and the false prophet are. There they will be tormented day and
night forever and ever.
are Satan and all who followed him last end. That they will be tormented day
and night is biledelelig speech when night shall cease when God creates a new
heaven and a new earth. The Bible does not speak of literal eternal torment,
but when one has turned away from God and the opportunity is gone past. So it
becomes an agonizing and painful entry into nothingness and tilintelse - do!
saw a great white throne and him who sat on it. Earth and sky melted away
before him and was no longer.
we stand before the final judgment. That throne is white speaks of the divine
and pure. At the same time that here will all things come forth, not only works
but also subjects. That earth and sky melted away talking about that now
everything comes forward and none of the old creation will not get a
I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were
opened. Then another book was opened, the book of life. And the dead were
judged according to what was written in the books, according to their deeds.
will get a perfect righteous judgment and a settlement with God. It is only God
himself who can hold a 100% fair judgment. We humans can not do it if we
believe that authority comes from God and that it is also for us should be
something which is right and which is wrong. But our judgment is always
imperfect and limited.
the very last and decisive judgment. Here, all men come unto God who has not
been there before. And one will be judged, even those who have not heard the
gospel will be fairly judged if I do not know how.
2. 6 He will reward each according to what he has done. 7 Those who tirelessly
doing good seek glory, glory and immortality, eternal life. 8 But those who
only think of themselves, who are led by injustice and disobey the truth,
indignation and wrath to come. 9 Tribulation and anguish upon every human being
who does evil, the Jew first and also to the Greek. 10 But glory, honor and
peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For
God does not show favoritism. 12 All those who sinned without law will also
perish without law. And all those who sinned and had law will be judged by the
law. 13 For not the hearers of the law word, are justified, but those who make
the law says should be accepted as fair. 14 For when Gentiles who have not the
law do by nature what it says, they are their own law, yet they do not have the
law. 15 They show that with this legal requirement is written in their hearts.
Also bearing witness their own conscience, when their thoughts either accuse or
defend them. 16 This will become clear on the day of God through Jesus Christ
judges it lurks in people, so I have preached my gospel.
sea gave now its dead, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were there,
and all were judged according to their works.
are no forgotten. This is the last revolt, this is the very last and most
important judgment. No one can stand before God and live. Slev sea gives all
back. Hades is not use for longer. Everything will be measured up against God
Himself. What he has said is right and wrong. That the Ten Commandments also
includes in his will. But it's also more than that, everyone will be judged
according to the light and opportunity he or she had in her life.
9. 27 Likewise certain as it is appointed unto men once to die and after this
Then death and Hades cast into the lake of fire - and the lake of fire, which
is the second death.
we come to a truth that has caused controversy for many, even today. For those
who do not have their names written in the book of life, what happens? It will
experience the second death. The first time we encounter this in the words of
God in Genesis to man. We humans have set before us life or death path. The
choice is ours! We will settle here in time if we want to be a citizen of
heaven or experience death, when we go out of the time it is too late and we
have done our management.
Genesis 2. 15 The Lord God took the man and put him in Eden to cultivate it and
keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying: "You may eat of
every tree in the garden. 17 But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil you
shall not eat; for the day that you eat of it you shall die. "
whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of
is the lake of fire or hell, it's the same thing. It is to be handed over to
the fire and total Intel sation and a cessation of life and existence. When the
fire has done its effect, so everything is past. So will it go with Satan, the
Antichrist, the False Prophet, the demon and all the people who failed to
accept God's offer of salvation in Jesus Christ.
when people die they come either to paradise or hell awaits either salvation or
doom. The believers to Paradise and unbelievers to hell.
the end, what then?
been taught to believe (my background is in the free friends \ Pentecostal)
that people will be tormented forever.
teacher and think one that is a heresy. But what teaches the Word of God?
says so himself.
10 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but can not kill the soul.
Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
says right out that the Father can destroy, annihilate and destroy people in
the lake of fire or hell. We read from the text that there are so man can kill
and kill the body. But only God can dead \ kill \ annihilate \ obliterate them
both; soul and body!
also see Paul says about the same.
6. 23 The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
the wages of sin is death which means separation so it must mean an eternal
separation from God. And when we begin to compare other scriptures we come to
the conclusion that there is no talk of eternal torment literally as an eternal
punishment. But the extinction of all those who do not have their names written
in the book of the Lamb, even Satan and all evil spirits included.
eternal torment in Revelation 20.10 as must be the last word as if those who
believe in God to torment and destroy the people and all the demons and Satan
in the end?
is no word in Hebrew or Greek meaning "eternal" (which never ceases).
In Jewish thought, which the Scriptures have their origin, are all seen in ages
/ n / ne / adj; tidsalderlig. ...- Eph. 2; 7: How wild he (YHWH) in the coming
ages (g: a rubbish aiosin) show His overwhelming grace Wealth of Kindness
toward us in Yeshua HaMashiavch .. / 2 Tess. 1, 9: ..deres punishment (they
ugjenfødte) becomes a tidsalderlig (aionion) destruction away from Adonay`s
Face and from His Glory and Power.
Hebrew; olam and the Greek, aion (eon), denotes something "disappears on
the horizon. Something for man" incalculable ". It is only YHWH &
Yeshua who know the time span length, for every age - and the time length of
the ages for each other, and the He reveals it through his Spirit, when it is
tidsalderlig torment for devil spirits and ugjenfødte / disobedient) - in the
age of all (eoniske) fire, it denotes this is a painful process of destruction
(by fire), resulting in complete annihilation / annihilation. Only YHWH who
know the duration (time length) of this punishment / annihilation process.
translation blunder hangs sometimes after church needs to ("reinforce
fear" - intimidate the population to pay indulgences and Support (submit
to) the church and church doctrine. - Each is a product of Greek
time is actually the church Bible translators still too cowardly to translate
Olam / Aion, accurate, age / eon / time-span / adjective; tidsalderlig / eonisk
/ persistent / (long) term. It is the churches and the church that pays their
salary, and churches are dependent on maintaining the "tradition" to
exist, including the u-biblical and erroneous - deliberately!
certainly come to the conclusion that the words aion and olam both speak of an
infinitely long period of time, which is also translated as eternal, so we put
in the word. When it comes to word aionos, so this seems to be used in the
sense of infinity without end. But this is like saying difficult. I see that
many (the majority) of Bible teachers and scripture investigators have landed
on that aionos means eternal and infinite. So do we have the expression
"Aion ton aionon" which means "forever" or "forever
and forever." What I mean is that this "destruction process"
will be so prolonged, that it is natural to compare it with an eternity -
because the fire burns all the time, as long as there is nothing to burn.
therefore not strange that it can be difficult to interpret this with
"hell fire." It was a place outside Jerusalem, one waste place called
"Hell" (Gehenna). This landfills burned continuous fire, to burn up
waste. Here was also burned corpses of criminals. This place is in the New
Testament and over in history, used as an image of the punishment that would
come across people who do evil deeds. - There were a lot of evil in life, and
the hope of many was that God would hold a fair trial. In a society marked by
violence and injustice, such. Excl. Ancient Israel, I think that's not so
strange that people elaborate this with hell fire and punishment seem so
horribly cruel as it is possible to imagine. Penalties should also act as a
deterrent, and intends to get people with an "evil agenda" to refrain
from their actions.
me, not a show about a good God could unite with him to let people be tortured
continuously for all eternity, even though these people have been guilty of
evil acts. - But we have this with justice. The God to hold a fair trial? How
should this be interpreted? I believe this with the verdict that it is
"final", that it is an end, not "perpetual".
is a long and everlasting 2x correctly translated from Hebrew \ grsk is an age
of time. Or a time that only God the Father knows. As Jesus said of his return
that it knows only my Father when he comes again.
comes back at this era is ending. So it is with the Father's ultimate
destruction and tilintelsesgjørelse of all evil and Satan with his demons.
will take an age \ era \ (g: a rubbish aiosin) to perform this work.
read in scripture that night shall cease to stand for evil, be biledelig speech
that one day all traces of the evil and the evil deeds and them being gone.
22. 5 night will be no more, and they need no light of lamp or sun, for the
Lord God will give them light. And they shall reign forever and ever.
the Father Himself knows the time and how this will happen, but biblical
doctrine is not eternal torment forever. But a literal destruction as it
happened to Sodom and Gomarra says Judas in his letter.
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around, that just as these
fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering
the vengeance of eternal fire. What happened to Sodom and Gomarra? They got a
deadly criminal who destroyed them because contained living.
24 Then Lord rained brimstone and fire - from the Lord out of heaven - down on
Sodom and Gomorrah. 25 And he overthrew those cities and all the plain and all
the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground.
Early in the morning Abraham went to the place where he had stood before the
Lord. 28 And he looked beyond Sodom and Gomorrah and throughout the country on
the plain; he saw that the smoke of the land went up as the smoke of a furnace.
Sodom and Gomar blotted with an eternal flame. After what the word teaches
about the eternal fire!
all the people waiting who did not have their names written in the book of life
of the Lamb. An eternal annihilation as they got. It was like a furnace.
is an electrolytic bath that keeps ca.960 degrees +.
been working on this for 10 years.
will happen with all the wicked on Judgement Day understands the white throne
who do not have their names written in the book. Everything that came in there
melted and became "a" with bathroom. How it will happen to the wicked
in the judgment.
3. 12 he has his fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor
and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable
it comes to believers, we will not understand sentence.
our lives will be judged and we can lose pay or receive a full reward
is the biblical doctrine of eternal fire.
mean is that this "destruction process" will be so prolonged, that it
is natural to compare it with an eternity - because the fire burns all the
time, as long as there is nothing to burn.
would pain God Father heart something very like have provided a solution for
all people. And Jesus will suffer when his sacrifice was for everyone.
men have by far the greatest suffering and torment be with this if we do not
get our fleshly family on the path to heaven and all the other people that we
care about and love!
you probably know, is not the word "hell" in the original text. The
basic text is the "Gehenna" which also was a junkyard outside
Jerusalem. Here was burned garbage and the bodies of animals and dead criminals
who were not worthy of any funeral. When Jesus spoke of that one should
"burn in Gehenna" understood the Jews that he believed that somehow
garbage and the carcasses burned and destroyed, so God will burn up and destroy
those people who refuse to repent to God. No Jews envisioned torment when they
thought of Gehenna. Neither garbage or the dead bodies "screamed for
mercy" or were tortured.
that we know what Gehenna is, namely a junkyard where one burns up trash and
dead bodies, it becomes easier to understand the truth about Hell. For what
happens in Hell? Jo, mattter. 10:28 says: "Do not fear those who kill the
body but can not kill the soul. Rather fear Him (God) who can destroy both soul
and body in Hell". Here we see that in Hell becomes body and soul
destroyed or brought to nothing. Such as an ant gets pulverized if you put it
between your palms and rub. The disappears. Or to use Jesus' example: if
something thrown into Gehenna burned it simple henn up.
traditional Hell doctrine is that God will throw people in Hell (Lake of Fire).
It is right that he should do this according to the Bible, but the traditional
doctrine says is that God shall torment these people forever. It's not right
here is that this crash with God's morals and views on justice. Let me explain:
In the Bible, God says that he wants "eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth!
This was a law that was fair. If you took a cow of mine had to give a cow back
if you were caught for crime. If I injured your eye, then indeed it could
damage my etc. So this was a law built on justice. So one must then ask: Is it fair
that a loving and just God punishes a 3 year old Afgansk baby with torture an
eternity? Is it right that a 20 year old bush-man will be tormented by God year
in and year out in endlessly because he did not know anything about Jesus? Is
it right to give an eternal torture that judgment when the infringement was to
go against God will? No. Dom and sentencing must be in proportion to each
other. Moreover, a loving God be involved in an "Eternal Auschwitz"?
healthy sense says that we should confine torturers! God is not so. The Word of
God says is that " The wages of sin is Death "(Romans 6: 23). If
someone dies in his sins he shall therefore not be tortured, but he will die
(Cf. Gehenna and be destroyed forever - Matt.10: 28). For how could a loving
God who calls us to love our enemies while PINE his enemies forever?
When it says Eternal torment in our Bibles, it could just as easily have been
Eternal punishment. It is important to understand this word is that it can mean
both torment and punishment (plus some meanings to). It is not torture is
eternal, it is punishment. Let's look at the ant again. It will not be tortured
forever, but the punishment is eternal because it never comes back as ants. It
is gone. It is destroyed. See for example Jude chapter 1 verse 7. It says that
"Sodom and Gomorrah is an example for our eyes and suffer the penalty of
eternal fire". But is the fire that now? No. Should there be an eternal
flame? Yes. What voices? Jo: The punishment of Sodom and Gomorrah got was a
"punishment of eternal fire" - meaning that these cities were burned
up, but when they were burned up, stopped of course the fire to burn (we regard
no fire or smoke where Sodom and Gomorrah is today - not true, moreover, there
is no crying to plead for mercy in these cities today - they are gone - all man
final unexpected argument: If the Lake of Fire / Hell was a place they were
tortured by God, why does Revelation that "Death and Hades" are
thrown down there? One can not PINE Death or PINE hell !!!! No, this scripture
tells us instead that "Death and Hades" will be destroyed -
annihilated. It should therefore no death or Sheol in Paradise! Cf. Revelation
of such learning Clears Jehovah God from the charge that he might be vicious,
unfair and insensitive. It shows how loving, just and merciful He is. Moreover,
this doctrine cause the unsaved do not get offended by God, but perhaps easier
see His sense of justice. WHAT do they definitely not with the traditional
doctrine of hell.
here were some of my argument. It is worth noting that there were Catholics who
invented this doctrine and that the apostate Christian denominations have
preached these in spectacular style with tees. Possible that it should ring
some bells with us.
(end of quote).
day that all those who followed in Jan Kaare Hanvold track and lived like him
and "believed" in Jesus, poor people!
writes the following about me: "Devoid of natural social skills. Such
disturbed individual. "
So it will
prove who was most disturbed and had not the antenna or radar that led to
Heaven - or rather - the New Jerusalem!
is an eternity to explore and take possession of the entire universe! Who is
worthy of it? As I see the font, then it is re-married as believers set
themselves without past this! It all revolves around how one stands against the
word of God after one has received salvation in Christ Jesus! IT IS NOT ONCE
SAVED ALWAYS THAT JAN KAARE HANVOLD AND ALL OTHER gjengiftede TREONDE YESTERDAY