fredag 30. desember 2011

Nr. 175: Jesus is the world's greatest ventriloquist "claim" Trinity teachers!

Nr. 175:

Jesus is the world's greatest ventriloquist "claim" Trinity teachers!

"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? It means: My God, My God, why have you forsaken me? "Matthew 27.46

If a belief in what Trinity teachers claim that God the Father is a person and the spirit is a person, then Jesus must be a ventriloquist. When the Holy Spirit left Jesus 1 hour on the cross, that Jesus cried out the following: "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? It means: My God, My God, why have you forsaken me? "
When the spirit, holy spirit, Jesus left, he called my God, my God, etc. So he left God on the cross.

What is truth?

That spirit is a part of God and not a person!

So simple, so clearly, so good is that, as big as that. Unfortunately, there has crept into a stranger learn Synod in Nicaea and later on various Catholic Church meets at 300-400's that spirit is a person. The kivedes if they have the spirit or Mary, mother of Jesus as a third person in a God. Mary was not elected p.g.a. that it would have aroused too much revolt when she was a woman. Therefore, "found" out that it was easier to choose the spirit. All this is of course staged, of course, the evil spirits!

Where was the Father physically when Jesus died?

Scripture answers. He was in heaven, yet Jesus cried out that the Father had forsaken him one hour on the cross. Who left Jesus? Not his own spirit, it left him in the moment of death, but God's own spirit left him.

What Jesus cried out then?

Jesus cried out that the Father left him. Or was the holy spirit left him. Is the Father and the spirit the same? It teaches the writing, that the spirit is part of God, but no person.

Joh. e. 4 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.

God is spirit, therefore, it is grammatically correct to say that the holy spirit is a part of God but not God.

Do you have to believe a lie to be biblical? No!
Must one believe that Jesus is a ventriloquist? No!
Scripture answers, it gets you here by me. This teaches the Bible, not me. This was the first Christians' religious beliefs. " Not from Nicaea or elsewhere.

1. Kor. 8. 4b. that there is no God but one. 5 For if there are also so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth - for which there are many gods and many lords - 6 it is but for us only one God, the Father, by whom all is, and we to him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all is, and we by him.

Jesus is the only true God, Father, it teaches the writing.

Joh. e. 17 3 and this is life eternal that they might know thee the only true God, whom thou hast sent, Jesus Christ.

Why not begin to believe as the word of God teaches? What does the word of God? That Jesus was speaking to himself, was a ventriloquist, or liar? Not to be ugly, the Trinity, is not good.

If I believed in the Trinity, then I had to lie to myself! The hang not together, it's like to write out the answer and so then set up the calculation. It is much better first stick to the facts and what scripture teaches, so get the answers by themselves, well it is.

This teaches Scripture: Psalm 119 160 The sum of your word is truth, eternal, all your righteous judgments.

I think that there are a few scriptures that speak of the Trinity, a few more for Jesus alone doctrine. The rest of God's word speaks of the biblical view that there are two persons in the Godhead: Father and Son. Actually, the Godhead a somewhat bad word, used only in Acts 17 as a borrowed word from the Greeks. God is by far the most commonly used. It is for the focus will be the only true God the Father!
And their common Spirit is 1 \ 3 of God or the Godhead, but their common Spirit.
Spirit in Scripture is never mentioned by proper name or reveals himself as a man or a figure of a person. Only the components, indicating that he has personal characteristics. Eg as a powerful weather, a dove, etc. The properties are such that the supervisor, the Spirit of truth, peace, Spirit, etc.

And that is what we find throughout Scripture that the Holy Spirit has different characteristics but also mentioned that the seven Spirits of God. As says that he not only has a property, but all properties of the Father and the Son as he is their common Spirit. Scripture says several places of the Holy Spirit, Jesus Kristis Spirit and the Spirit of God, etc.
The two places in Scripture that speak strongly in the writing of a trinity are here:

1) Theologians have pointed out several places in the NT to support in their view that God is three, three people. Father, Son and Holy Spirit together in a God. This dogma is not particularly emphasized in the Bible except in some later texts other than in the first Epistle of John chapter 5 verses 7-8

Through the Latin Middle Ages it was believed that the text said: There are three that bear witness in heaven. Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. Ah here it is, the dogma of the Trinity. But this is found only in the Latin manuscripts. Absolutely not in the Greek manuscripts of the NT.

When the New Testament of the Greek manuscripts were published in 1516, a scribe named Erasmus did not include these verses to the great hubbub of his theological opponents who maintained that he had a mischievous way removed Trinity from the Bible. Erasmus replied that he could not find this part in some of the Greek manuscripts he knew. And here goes the story. He challenged his opponents to produce a Greek manuscript of the Trinity. If they did it, he would include it in the next edition of the NT. In response produced his opponents a manuscript or at least they got a produced. Some copied John's first letter from the Greek, and added these verses, and presented them to Erasmus. As the honorable man he was, he included these verses in the next edition.

It was this version that became the basis for the King James version, which was important in the historical Bible in English. These verses are still in the King James version but not the newer and more reliable translations.

This is why an older generation of readers of the English Bible was assumed that the Bible taught the dogma of the Trinity, even though this is not found in any Greek manuscript in more than a thousand years. So what is the most reliable? The Greek manuscripts or the much later Latin? Of course the Greek manuscripts!

2) Matt. 28. 16 But the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had said he would meet them. 17 And when they saw him, they fell down and worshiped him: but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came and spake unto them: "I have received all power in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations! Rename them to the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost 20 and teach them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even unto the end. "

If you walk into to study this carefully so find one out of that in the Great Commission in Matthew and Mark have been taken in and out and sometimes changed with great certainty in the Matthew Gospel.
The first change sounded like, "in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit."
So it was left out and taken in again.
What Jesus really said that has changed is the following that Jesus' actual words: "in my name, baptizing them."

This will be the "correct" translation as follows:

Matt. 28. 16 But the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had said he would meet them. 17 And when they saw him, they fell down and worshiped him: but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came and spake unto them: "I have received all power in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations and in my name, rename them, 20 and teach them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even unto the end. "

Who should we believe? All the others both the Gospels and the Acts of the baptizing all new won in the name of Jesus or Christ.
NEVER in three denominations as Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Father is described as the only true God, the Father, the Ancient of Days, etc.
Son Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Son of Man, etc.
Spirit NEVER with its own name but with the personal qualities that show that we have to do with God and Jesus Kristis Spirit. Excuse repetitions but that's because this has to sit!

According to Norwegian language rules to proper names consisting of several words have only capitalize the first word. It is NEVER the Holy Spirit, but it has both God the Father and the Son Jesus Christ.

Rooms. 6. 2 Certainly not! How can we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Or do not you know that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were buried with him when we were baptized with the baptism of death. And as Christ was raised from the dead by His Father's glory, we shall also walk in newness of life. 5 Do we have grown together with Christ in a death that is equal to his, shall we be one with him in a resurrection like his.

To be baptized in three denominations is actually an ancient Egyptian beliefs and teachings which were later adopted by the Greeks. And continued by the Catholic Church and the Protestant churches and church. The doctrine is essentially demonic such as orders of the Sabbath holy to Christians also. And there are some who teach that baptism is not New Testament teaching, it is also a dangerous and unscriptural teachings.

1. Tim. 4. 1. Spirit says with clear words that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith. They should stick to the spirit that leads astray, and the demons teach.

It is therefore dangerous when one builds his entire Trinitarian understanding of scripture that is questionable but if these passages had its validity. So is the sum of God's word of truth. Therefore, one is not to say that this is some conspiracy theory that some would argue this is. To know that both Jesus only doctrine is wrong and the Trinity, the sum of God's word is truth. My view is anyway!

There are two persons in the Godhead. The Holy Spirit is not a person.

1) The basic meaning of the word is wind, spirit, etc.

2) The Spirit is not proper names.

3) It is mathematically impossible with three persons in one God.

4) Only the Father is God fully! Jesus is not from eternity with the Father. Isaiah 44.6. The Father is called in John. e. 17 3: The only true God!

But Jesus is still God, but Son of the Father and can and should be both worshiped and one can pray to him and in his name to the Father.
There is a general broad understanding among Christian denominations that God is a composition of three equal persons who together constitute a unit named as the Trinity. It is part of this dogma a perception of God among themselves to go into the roles that the Son or the Father without actually being there. The Bible is totally alien to these concepts, and the contrary also against all common sense and logic. The Bible teaches clearly that we only have one God, the Father (1 Corinthians 8:6), and that he has a son - who is also God because He is born of Him (Hebrews 1:8) - and that the Father and the Son a common spiritual presence in all creation through the Holy Spirit (Phil. 1:19, John 2:23 p.m.). The son is clearly subordinate to the Father in rank (1 Cor 15:27,28), even if he is given it by the Father to be worthy of all worship the same way with him. The Holy Spirit is not an independent third God to be worshiped, but the Father and the Son universal presence. Nowhere in the Bible occurs there such a thing as the worship of the Holy Spirit. There is a total stranger instance of God's people throughout biblical history. The idea of ​​a triune God stems from pagan religions. The renowned historian Edward Gibbon concluded the following about the Trinity in the book "History of Christianity":

"If heathenism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by paganism. The pure Deism of the early Christians ... were changed by the Roman church to the incomprehensible dogma of the Trinity. "

The father of the Trinity is impossible to exaggerate. In the Trinity, the Holy Spirit defined to be 1 / 3 God, and is hence worthy of adoration and praise in equal with the Father and the Son which constitutes the remaining 2 / 3. The consequence of preparing the trinitarianske Holy Spirit, is that in reality opens the door wide open for spiritualism, and that you come in contact with a totally different spirit than that which is known by the name of the Holy Spirit. Spiritism and mediumship has been practiced for thousands of years, and is strictly forbidden in the Bible (3 Genesis 20:27). It is no coincidence that the Christian community in which you emphasize just prayer and praise of the Holy Spirit also experience clear cases of demon possessions during meetings. This is perhaps not so surprising, since many of the methods used, for example. of the well-known charismatic evangelist Benny Hinn, has proven to be exactly the same as was used in mesmerismen. This means that what takes place at these meetings simply is nothing more than mass suggestion and hypnosis. This obsession is even evidence that God exists. How wrong is it possible to take? Jesus never threw people into the ground by the healings and blessings. He left them on the other hand up!

As the Father and the Son only considered to be the roles that God occurs in as it suits him, you lose a vital understanding of who the Son is (1 John 2:22,23). You lose the sight of how incredibly much it cost the Father to give His Son for mankind on the cross of Calvary. Until Jesus was conceived as a human being, he had no physical part of human nature. Through His saving action, He was the Son of man forever. Father really gave His Son for the sins of the world. It was not a role play. It was a real risk that Jesus took upon Himself human nature in it, he descended to earth to atone for our sins. If Jesus at a single point had given in to Satan's temptations, He had been hit by the curse of sin as much as anyone, and would have been just as lost as everyone else, because the Bible is clear that the wages of sin is death. The Bible teaches that God can not die. If it was the One True God, as described in 1 Corinthians 8:6, which hung on the cross, it means that Jesus is not really dead, but that it was just a game for the gallery and that God really gave His Son. How un-Christian and Bible strange idea this is! When treenighetslærens traffickers are asked to examine this view, one ends up with definitions and theses that are so devoid of biblical founded reality and spiritual reality of the presence that the only thing that remains as valid "reason" to implement the teachings of Christianity is to call the a mystery. That way no one can contradict it or criticize it. In keeping with good Catholic practice it is considered given only some scholars to get more insight into what it is about, while the large mass just have to accept their conclusions. This is not the biblical recommended way to proceed under the to build the foundations of faith. There are many things about God's nature is a mystery to us, but Trinity does not fall under this category. It is the opposite - when you look for - a blatantly conglomerate of human philosophy, ancient paganism and demons misguided teachings.
As to be and should be posting like the plague in every Christian context and from every Christian preaching in writing and speech!

We violation of Scripture and common sense thinking of putting a spirit in as a second God, when God the Father also refers to himself as the Spirit.

Joh. e. 4 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth. "

Can not see that either the Trinity or Jesus only doctrine is supported when one tries teaching the entire font, for the entire font is innblest of God and God's word.
The biblical teaching is that the Holy Spirit is no more or less of God and Jesus Christ, the common spirit.

I and every other person has a spirit, but to say that this spirit is a person will sound absurdly out.
Antichrist is a spirit, but to say it is the Antichrist will sound silly and trite out.
The fact that most of Christianity in 1700 years ago the Catholic Church were-powerful have been doing as they have done is bad. But to continue to believe Serpent lie is folly and delusion!
Wake up and turn back to the straight and true biblical faith and doctrine.

Jude 3 Beloved I have had a deep desire to write to you about the salvation we have together. But now I felt compelled to send you some admonishing words to fight for the faith of the saints once for all has been handed over.

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