fredag 2. desember 2011

Nr. 146: Is God a monster, dictator or psychopath?

Nr. 146:

Is God a monster, dictator or psychopath?

The Bible teaches that there are three qualities that God is most prominent, it is that he is love, light and fire.

What image of God gives the traditional helvetslæren where God will torment all that he stands opposed to all eternity? It makes God a monster, a worse dictator and Anders Behring Breivik, Vidkun Quisling, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

From Wikipedia: Dictator (Latin: "one who dictates" (orders), the shape is a frekventativ of Dicer, to say with a phenomena agentis - that "one who says / command repeatedly) was an extraordinary magistrate position in the Roman Republic . Diktaoren was officially designated as Magister populi, lord of the people, Praetor Maximus, the supreme praetor, and Magister Peditum, lord of infantriet. The dictator was appointed in times of crisis in a position that gave him absolute power in the republic, the power equal to the emperor was in the Roman Empire. The difference was that the dictator had only reign (Empire) for six months. The dictator was the exemption of kollegialitetet (each magistrate had one or more equal colleagues with equal power), which was one of the foundation stones of the Roman Republic. It could never be more than a dictator was appointed, and the dictator could not be held legally to their actions (end of quote).

God is not a dictator and is now Satan appears, afterwards he will be destroyed but by the traditional helvetslæren he shall live forever as God, what a lie !!!!!!!!!!

Which idol is you and I? What image of Satan, we?

Hell will be "terminated," the second death likewise, anyone who does not have his name written in the Book of Life of the Lamb will experience the lake of fire. What is the lake of fire? It is to experience the fire of God without being able to withstand it, it is only through the blood of Jesus that we can withstand the fire. We read about three men who were in ildoven but survived? Why?

Daniel 3 16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered the king, Nebuchadnezzar! We have no need to answer thee in this matter. 17 Our God whom we serve is able to save us; of the fiery furnace and from your hand, O king, he will save. 18 But if not, then you know, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the gullbillede you have set up. 19 Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the expression of his face changed, as he saw Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. He answered and said that the oven should be made seven times hotter than it was too good to ophete it. 20 And he gave some strong men in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and throw them into the fiery furnace. 21 When were these men with their shirts, coats and cloaks, and their other garments bound and thrown into the fiery furnace. 22 Såsom now the king was so strict, and the oven was so exceedingly strong ophetet, flame of the fire slew those men that had led Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego came up. 23 But these three men, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, were cast bound into the burning fiery furnace. 24 Then King Nebuchadnezzar terrified and stood up hastily. He answered and said to their rulers: we do not throw three men bound into the fire? The king replied: Yes indeed, King! 25 He again answered and said: But I see four men loose, walking in the fire, and there is no harm to look at them, and the fourth is like the Son of God. 26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came to the door of the burning fiery furnace. He answered and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, in the most high God's servants! Come out! Then Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego from the fire. 27 And the satraps, the governors, the governors and the king's counselors gathered together, they saw that the fire had not had any power over these men's bodies, and the hair on their heads was singed, and their shirts had not suffered any damage, it could not even recognized the smell of something burning on them. 28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said: Praise be to Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego God, who sent his angel and delivered His servants who put their trust in him and did the king and feared his life not to worship or worship any god except their own God.

Why survived Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego fire? Because Jesus was with them and protected them. We read: "But I see four men loose, walking in the fire, and there is no harm to look at them, and the fourth is like the Son of God." Nebuchadnezzar saw that they survived when there was a fourth man who looked like a god-son, no doubt that it was Jesus in his preeksistens. Why endure the fire and survived? Jesus helped and protected. If not Jesus had been with? They had been burned up. That's exactly what will happen to all people and Satan, demons and the fallen angels included will be burned up when all that is against God will be cast into the lake of fire for there to be destroyed, never to rise up against God and everything what he stands for.
This shows that it is written that he who does not believe in Jesus shall not perish. But this means a hell? No, there's nothing here that shows that you shall have eternal life in hell. The opposite of eternal life is dead - you cease to exist. One is thus destroyed - not tortured.

Rev. 20:15 And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death: Lake of Fire. And if someone was not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

That there is talk of a "symbolic" lake, according to the context of the places in Revelation where the expression occurs. It is said that death is cast into the lake of fire. (Rev. 19: 20: 20: 14)
Death, of course not burned in the literal sense. The Devil, an invisible spirit creature, being thrown into the lake of fire. Since he is a spirit, he can not be damaged by fire, literally. - Revelation 20: 10; cf 2Mo 3: 2: Judgement 13: 20
In the same way as death and the devil shall be destroyed, so also those who are not in the book of life destroyed = again, we see that there is no basis for a hell learn.
In Matthew 10: 28 Jesus said to his audience that they should fear "him who can destroy both soul and body in hell [Gehenna]." What does it mean?
Notice that he does not say anything about the torment of Gehenna fire, no, he says that they "fear him who can destroy in Gehenna '. By mentioning the "soul" of the stresses Jesus that God can destroy all possibilities of life for a man, such a person will not have any hope of a resurrection. 'Gehenna fire' is therefore the same as the 'lake of fire "in Revelation 21: 8, namely destruction," the second death. "

First mentioned in writing about the destruction

2. Genesis 2 15 And the Lord God took man and put him in the Garden of Eden to till it and keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man: You may freely eat of every tree in the garden, 17 but the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you must not eat, for on the day you eat of it you shall surely die.

Here it is right that man should die, the day the sinner. There is a "promise" that can not be changed. But by Jesus' death and resurrection, this is set aside and the new life begins. As is to be saved and born again.

God, no sinner's death

The idea that God will torture or human should be tortured for all eternity. Who will torment them argue they "learned" about it is God or Satan, as I understand it. God will always give people one or two possibilities. When they eventually do not listen to him, what then? When they are considered to be liars.

1. Joh. B. 5 9 If we receive human testimony, it is God's testimony greater: for this is God's testimony that he has given about his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God has the testimony in himself: he that believeth not God, has made him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11 And this is the testimony that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life: he that does not have the Son of God, he does not have life. 13 These things have I written unto you that ye may know that ye have eternal life, you who believe in God the Son's name.

The eternal life is not in ourselves

Scripture is clear and simple, without Jesus is the living dead. With Jesus, you are alive even if you die. So simple and clear. Want a loving, gracious, a God who created us torment those who do not want to believe him and follow him to let them suffer for all eternity? This does not teach writing, they will be exposed from them the same kind of fire that struck Sodom and Gomorrah and destroyed them all!

God, no sinner death but that they repent

The basic idea of ​​God and showing his greatness is that all people should have the opportunity to repent, even if they have been received and he made against his will. Just think of Moses, King David, Paul, all three were accused of murder but received grace from God and his children. How is God. And so goes the idea that God will torment or that man will be tormented for all eternity to all the biblical teachings about God and what he stands for.

Helevetslæren creates a false image of God

I have noticed in life that there are extreme people who end up in some ditch, either by being too liberal or too radical, just look at Jan Hanvold who live in sin and who judge people who are much better than him to hell every day almost at the TV route is, and others who are too liberal.

Where does helvetslæren from?

When the church was Greek in the second century, it began also to embrace neo-Platonism and the doctrine of the immortality of the soul.
We study different religions hedenes that both the ancient Egyptian and Hellenistic mythology as we find the doctrine of the immortality of the soul as the Catholic Church "Christianized" then all would be convicted and would live forever. How could one then go free? By paying indulgences and good works, etc. It was pure profit as the basis for this doctrine. This came with the Catholic church that really preached this to the fullest throughout the Dark Ages.

It is only Jesus that believers will live forever

In order to live forever, one must receive eternal life as one does through faith in Jesus Christ, all people will stand up, but to be condemned.

Heb. 9. 27 And just as there are men once to die, and then trial.

What happens then?

Here speaks the writing of a coming time household, so long will it take for God to be destroyed all his creature that he is against. It is absurd to believe in a prison out in space that is hell, where Satan, demons, the fallen angels and the people who were doomed to live forever and tormented in an eternal darkness, this teacher is not my God. He is more human one that, he destroys them, like Sodom and Gomarra.

Matt. 3. 12. he has his kasteskovl in his hand, and he shall purify their barn and gather his wheat laden, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.

John the Baptist preached the life out of nonbelievers. They would burn up as agnenes, but a fire that would last forever. Who's the fire? It is God himself.

Heb. 10. 26 For the sins we deliberately after having learned the truth, then it is no more back nothing sacrifice for sins, 27 but only a terrible horror of conviction and zeal fire to consume the recalcitrant.

This is actually a word for apostate believers what vertical they can expect if they repent. They will get experience, "a zeal trademark which shall devour the rebellious." They should be consumed and destroyed, this teaches the word of God as far as I can see it. Therefore we must all bow down to the word.

No disgrace!

Mountain Rule 8: Turn on time, it is no disgrace. We remember all Suverin Superb, which eventually took to the mind, and turned when it was very bad weather. It's no disgrace, but do it in time (end of quote).

Unfortunately, virtually all Christians whether Catholics or Protestants taught wrong here, as on many other points. Then I say, there is no shame to turn around and preach the law. God is no respecter of people and he wants us all to repent to Him and preach His word true, right and good!


As I have been taught to believe in hell. The fact that God has "middle" of hell set up a "hearth burning" which is like a fiery furnace in which no escape. But to be kept in there for all eternity, but all lovers rejoice without passing into God's heaven for me is a teaching that is demonic, ugly, uhuman and paranoid! It is my testimony on the traditional helvetslæren!

Absurd learn!

Why do we have a prison that this will possibly be? This is to protect us against / the evil and the / that evil will not be able to do something evil. But when God does not need protection because he is the biggest and has not at his side and of itself. And we will have a glorious body that can never die, even if it might be damaged. So there will be no need for any prison. If, when the evil is released? Or what? Improve and then be free? But life has two outputs, which I agree with those who believe in a literal hell (that will be forever).
They will not believe in God and his son, should they still inhabit the heavens and the universe? The whole doctrine of the immortality of the soul and the torment of the wicked forever is contrary both against the Bible and healthy thinking. God could have punished some NOK I mean, if it had seemed to repentance. But when all possibilities for repentance there, the verdict is handed down, and man and Satan must and will take the consequences of it by experiencing God as love and light, but as a consuming fire, and when they are destroyed, just like everything else that comes in contact with fire.

Heb. 12. 29. For our God is a consuming fire.

2 Genesis 15:7 And your majesty majesty turn your opponents down and let your anger loose, it devours them like straw.

2 Genesis 24:17 And the glory of the Lord was to the children of Israel eyes like a consuming fire on the mountain top.

5 Deuteronomy 4:24 For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

5 Deuteronomy 9:3 You shall know the day that the Lord your God who goes in front of you as a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and He will humble them for you, then you will drive them away and destroy them in urgent, as the Lord has said to you.

2 Samuel 22:9 The smoke rose up from his nostrils, and devouring fire from his mouth: coals burned out of him.

Psalm 97:3 Fire goes before his face and put his enemies in the brand around.

Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion beaver, trembling has seized the godless: Who can stay at a consuming fire? Who can live in eternal fire?

Jeremiah 25:37 and the peaceful meadows is empty for the fierce anger.

Ezekiel 38:19 And in my zeal, my fierce anger, I say, Surely the same day there will come a great earthquake over the land of Israel.

2 Corinthians 5:11 As we have known the fear of the Lord, we persuade men but to God we are manifest, and I hope and to be obvious to your consciences.

2 Thessalonians 1:7 But unto you that is needed, rest with us, when our Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

Hebrews 10:27 but only a terrible horror of conviction and zeal fire to consume the recalcitrant.

Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens that now are, and the earth by the same word saved the fire, as they spend on until the day when the wicked people will be judged and perish.

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Renders here it vittigste from Wikipedia: Hell as it stands in Western culture has its origins in Greek Christianity, particularly taken from an approach to the Hellenistic afterlife known as Tartarus. In early Judaism believed in Sheol, a shadowy existence as absolutely everyone was sent. Sheol may have been a poetic metaphor for death and no life after death at all. In the third to second century BC, however, the idea has grown into a far more complex concept. The Hebrew word Sheol was translated into Hades, the name of Hades in Greek mythology. This is still considered to be separate from the hell of Orthodox Christians. Lake of fire and eternal torment in Greek mythology was really Tartarus. Hades was not Hell in Greek mythology, but rather an intermediate station where the dead went to be judged. The New Testament uses this word, but it also uses the word Gehenna (from valley of Ge-Hinnom in Jerusalem). This valley was used as a garbage dump for Jerusalem, and the conditions were far more unhygienic and nasty than the modern landfill sites. Once in a set Hebrews torched trash heap, and it was so great that it could burn for months. It was without doubt a very scary place to be. The early Christianity taught that the lost would be burned in the valley like trash. Theologians who oppose the idea of ​​hell but still want to defend the Bible as the source, argues that a burning trash heap on Earth can not possibly refer to a state after death. Penalties for the infidels and reward to the faithful is a recurrent theme in early Christianity.

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