Todd Bentley and Jan Aage Torp stand and marries his former nannies, how can they claim to be men of God?
I know people who have gone in Oslo Church or Victory Church. Although they are forfælet over Torp when they leave the church that he could stand was bad. But they have no words for that today he is "married" with his former nanny According x members of the sect and clan to Torp.
Photo of Torp "example" Todd Bentley.
Remember, these people are not led by God, but of his flesh, and the demons will then have free rein!
Torp is an old "pig" who stand and marries nanny just like Todd Bentley!
Everything to God's word and the propriety of any kind, these are not!
Torp makes people cry and be upset, but that does not mean something only he is allowed to continue with their whoring!
Here what I wrote to Kjell Andersen in Searchlight:
From: Jan Kåre
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:28 PM
Two: 'Spotlight'
Subject: RE: Mediation
Yesterday Randi sat and cried all day after treatment and was actually Torp, do nothing impresses you white it goes the other way, alarmed at how hardened you are.
See here: Yes, you're absolutely right, Jan Kåre !! and yes, I use the parts if you can. I
open and honest in all things. Thank you for being who you are! love both of you two :)
Yes, most of the forces we try to stop us ..... I feel better today, Berit from Bergen called last night.
She would like to have phone Kjell Spotlight on ... but I did not find anything ...
She would give him a few home truths, I read something from the blog and then she said that the forces would not she call yet
.... she called me at the right time ... I cried and she comforted ...
she did not know how my day was yesterday .... but she was led by the Spirit to call me
at. 23 last night.
Yes, we'll talk.
________________________________________
From: jk.chris@online.no
Two: the-ingw@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Randi Ingwersen
Date: Tue, September 30, 2014 8:22:43 +0200
Hey Randi!
Understand very well everything you're going through, why? You have the very strong demonic spiritual powers!
They will knock you out and they go with me on my stomach and head. Before I had it like you, when I had this for the first time. Now I have learned more biting pain in me, but I know it's very intense. Your reaction is perfectly normal for a Witness of Jesus Christ!
And is there anything I can use, as you say from.
Have ne still nice day and meet Johnny!
Spoken and shall meet from Berit to you both!
Regards
Jan K
From: johnny Ingwersen [mailto: jo-ingw@hotmail.com]
Posted: 30th September 2014 8:10
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Randi Ingwersen
Torp is desperate he is revealed ..... yes, it's a sick man .... really sick ...
Not long after his post about this political party, so it was also posted on the
spotlight !!
I cried all yesterday .... Johnny bounce it right off ... felt completely powerless and shattered ... that people
that will only harm us because we preach the truth ......
Thanks Jan Kåre you for making me aware.
Pretty soon I realized that Johnny and party "of Norway Christian" only used strong words about the particular divorce
precisely to create publicity. and clearly he is.
Magnar Tanem see us as apostasies today and we asked to have deleted his bar used our address.
We have no contact with the man! We know he does not ..... but we helped with the paperwork
and bylaws that time was quite straightforward, what Tanem have written in after the fact, we know nothing about.
Torp ought called Tanem .... this is absolutely absurd !!
(end of quote).
Article about Torp "example" Todd Bentley:
Todd Bentley remarried with his former nanny - popular as never before in the Pentecostal Charismatic circles where Gods Channel fronts him through his TV broadcasts to millions!
Matt. 24, 11 and many false prophets will arise and lead many astray.
2 Tim. 4 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts take themselves teachers in droves, having itching in the ear, 4 and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and be turned to adventure.
2 Thess. 2 9 And his coming is after the working of Satan with all power and lying signs and wonders, 10 and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And therefore God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Todd Bentley is a false prophet based on scriptural testimony about him.
From Wikipedia: (born 10 January 1976) is a Canadian Christian evangelist. He was a key figure in Lakeland revival. After a short break, he returned to service after divorce his first wife and subsequent remarriage (freely translated by me). (end of quote).
We live in a religious twisted world where it is actually today is the Pentecostal Charismatic Christians have become the most twisted to believe in signs, wonders and miracles, but not in a sacred and given life!
When I was saved well over thirty years ago it was something that was taught and debated. It was the gift of use and fruit of the Spirit should go hand in hand. Today it's about to slip completely in many Pentecostal Charismatic communities. And what makes this too alarming, is that if there are any within its the Pentecostal charismatic groups and churches who sees this and warns against this. They are either ostracized, ignored or otherwise not taken into account. We see today that takes both preachers, new methods, new teaching and most which will be new but as compromise and against God's word. Where will this end? As I see it, it will end with this as we have already mentioned above. But we can also include what Jesus himself said in the Sermon on the Mount.
Matt. 7 21 "Not everyone who says 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does my Heavenly Father. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and we have not driven out demons in Your name, and done many powerful deeds?' 23 And then will I declare to them, : You've never known me. Depart from me, you who are doing lawlessness. "24" Therefore everyone who hears these words and does them, be compared to a wise man who built his house upon a rock. 25 The rain came, the flood waters rose, and the winds blew, and beat, but the house did not fall, for it was built on a cliff. 26 But anyone who hears my words and doeth them not, can be likened to a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came, the flood waters rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house until it collapsed - and the fall was powerful. "
Note that they have made known under the name of Jesus, it happened, but the Lord Jesus says depart from me, but why? They had lived in lawlessness and disobeyed the word of God in their lives.
"O you who practice lawlessness." Greek: "anomia" which means "lawless" or "lovfri"
Jesus gave several commands, including that after divorce would one either remain single or be reconciled to her. This was a commandment of Jesus, the apostle Paul says:
1 Cor. 7 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate herself from her husband; 11 but divorced him when she abide, being unmarried or be reconciled herself with her husband - and that a man should not put away his wife.
Todd Bentley is re-married recently and as a Christian, live it directly against Jesus' commandment that all other remarriage as believers do.
He was first married to Shonnah Bentley. So, they had a nanny who he fell in love, divorced and then married Jessa Hasbrook. This is both obscene, contrary to what Jesus said and utterly reprehensible when he should be a model and example for other believers.
Todd Bentley flying around the stage and act like he is influenced by fabric with black eyes. Good Channel sends him very much and when I have seen some of this to inform me I will be both astonished and alarmed. How far into the night we arrived? And He is tattooed all over him, and he cries when he Bam both preach, pray and baptize people. Bam seems to me that an invocation of evil spirits. In other words, Bentley is demon possessed or influenced heavily by evil spirits. The witnesses all his life and behavior.
Solve E. Salty has written about this which I reproduce here:
Beware of false prophets!
Beware of false prophets! They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. By their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7: 15-16
Beware of false prophets. They look like real prophets, they look like burning Christian leaders. We live in a time of many false prophets. They are found in various churches and Christian movements. They can stand up as bishops or priests, emiserer or charismatic miracle men, theology professors or edification authors. It's not like we can just throw a quick glance at them to ascertain - it's a wolf. No, outwardly they appear as ministers of God, but an objection, on the inside, where our eyes can not see, there are ravenous wolves. There is much at stake. A false prophet is a ravenous wolf that tears Jesus' body into pieces. The Bible warns us: Many false prophets will appear and deceive many. Matthew 24:11 Beloved, believe not every spirit! Try the spirits whether they are of God! For there are many false prophets gone out into the world. 1 John 4: 1 Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith. They should stick to seducing spirits, and demons learn from lying hypocrites with scorched conscience. 1 Timothy 4: 1-2
The Bible states that false prophets are and that they will try to deceive us. There are seducing spirits, and there are so-called Christian teaching which stems from demons. Many Christians will be deceived, because they took care of the false prophets, because their pastors are not called a "warning" and led the flock to a safe resting place.
How can Christians be deceived? How can Christians be victims of false prophets? Why do we see their true nature? We have the Holy Spirit. Would not he warn and guide us away from the wolves? The Holy Spirit can and will sustain us. But he needs us in obedience keeps us in God's word. Jesus said: Whoever loves me will keep my word. Joh 2:23 p.m.. We can not rest and rely on the Spirit's protection if we leave or forsake it means he will preserve and protect us through: Word. The answer to why Christians are deceived by false prophets is very simple: Jesus said, "Ye do err, because ye know not the scriptures, nor the power of God. Matthew 10:29 p.m.
We are deceived because we do not know the Scriptures and therefore not judge prophecy, teaching and revival movements from the Bible. We err because we do not know the power of God as revealed in the Bible. Since we know the Holy Spirit as revealed in the Bible, we can easily jump on everything that seems spiritual, everything that is said to be an outpouring of the Spirit. And we do this even if there are demons teach, and although the Prophet has his power from Satan. My people will perish because it does not know God. Hosea 4: 6
We live in a vulnerable time, I would say that we Christians in today's Norway, indeed throughout Europe and North America live in a very dangerous and vulnerable state. Our spiritual power is weakened through our bundenhet to materialism. The Bible exhorts us to have your mind on things that are above, not on things on the earth (Col. 3: 2). The truth for many of us is that our mind is turned towards the earth. Paul writes: No soldier can be barriers of daily life, for he can not do that commander will. (2 Tim 2: 4) Many of us are so tied up in their daily tasks, that we are not able to do it Marshalling our will. God of this world, Satan has caught us, tied us to the earth, and robbed us of spiritual power and vision. This he managed in that world, what we see, hear and experience has taken place the Word in our hearts and our minds. We are a generation of Christians, concerned earthly things and without the right knowledge of God through the Word. In this our spiritual poverty, it is a hunger and a longing for more of God. We understand that we are poor, we did not have the intellectual richness that is naturally in a Christian life. In our hunger, I am afraid that we eat anything, without judging the food we open our soul. Instead of opening the gjenkastede wells, the Word and prayer well, so we let us be seduced by Satan to use our material prosperity to chase / buy Spiritual experience / the right anointing, or whatever it will be called. We have money to travel around the world in search of God and his revival campaign, but we forget that the word is close to us.
Think not with yourself, Who shall ascend into heaven? - That is, to bring Christ down - or, Who shall descend into the abyss? - That is, to bring Christ up from the dead. But what does it say? The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart. Romans 10: 6-8
It is in my opinion dangerous to pursue spiritual experiences, more of God in one's life, if one is not rooted and grounded in the word. Searching into the spiritual world, without making it through the Word - Yeah, you never know what you will encounter and who will accept you on the other side. When your hunger reaches his hand into the invisible reality, you do not know whether it is God or the devil who welcomes you. The devil is a reality, and he has an army of fallen demons and false prophets who are more than willing to seduce you. These are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. It is no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Then it is not strange if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be according to their works. 2 Corinthians 11: 13-15
Do not eat anything as long as you are hungry. Hunger is good! Eat the word, and cry out to Jesus for revival and life. Judge prophecies and prophets from the Bible, and hold fast that which is good. Extinguish not the Spirit, do not despise prophesying, but test everything and hold fast that which is good. 1 Thessalonians 5: 19-21 So we will no longer be immature, do not let us throw here and there and run with the wind from any doctrine, so we become prey for men fake games and their deceitful tricks. Ephesians 4:14
By their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7: 16a Jesus tells us to recognize false prophets when we study the fruits of their service. We should together consider some characteristics of false prophets. Characteristics: Easy to damage the doctor of my people prophets and priests of all hazards in guile. Convenient to the doctor the damage to my people when they say, "Peace, peace," and there is no peace. Jeremiah 6: 13b-14
A Prophet's mission in the Old Testament was to awaken / convert the people with his message. The Prophet was going on speaking the Word of God into people's lives and situation call the people back to a life in accordance with God's word, under God's dominion. A pattern in the prophetic ministry is: Judgment for the people's revolt, warning of the consequences continued disobedience will present an offer of grace / salvation if one receives the message. In certain cases it may also be a question of a comforting message, an exhortation to the people to hold on to the promises of God in a dark and difficult time, God is faithful to his word and will fulfill his promises.
A Prophet's mission remains today to speak God's word into the situation of God's people find themselves. A prophet shall still call God's people to repentance, to a life according to the Word, and in times of comfort by pointing to the promises and God's faithfulness. The false prophets did not give the people the word of God, and called nor the people to repentance and settlement. The prophet Jeremiah we read: I have not sent these prophets, yet they run; I have not spoken to them, yet they act as prophets. But if they had stood in my counsel, they could have proclaimed my words to my people and gotten it to turn from their evil ways and their evil deeds. Jeremiah 23: 21-22
At a time when Christianity is verdsligjort, godliness absent, and apostasy from God's word obvious, it is imperative that a prophet used by God to a Spirit's action, prosecute apostasy and call to repentance. The grace of God has appeared for the salvation of all people. And his grace teaches us to say from us ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for our hope is to receive his blessed and that our great God and Savior Christ Jesus shall appear in glory. Titus 2: 11-13
God's grace does two things to us when we receive it through word: salvation and upbringing. It teaches us to tell us ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives. When a prophet's task and give the word of God to the people, his service, by word, real salvation and upbringing. He will call people away from ungodliness and worldly lusts, so we saved that live self-controlled, upright and godly lives.
Therefore, there is every reason to be skeptical of prophets / revival movements that do not take honest reckoning with sin, which drives out there that violates God's word. Prophets who want to place new furniture in the Spirit Temple without first asking for that sin old furniture thrown out - these prophets will effortlessly medical injury in the people of God, and is not to be trusted. They are not sent by God, they do not preach the word of God to the people so that it turns on. When this is not in the center, or even absent, we have every reason to be wary of so-called prophets, no matter what they are called and how many thousands or millions they hailed off. When God's people have fallen from the Word and is bound in sin, it does not help with false grace, bodily healing, lattervekkelser, gold teeth, kjærlighetsekstaser church growth tools or whatever else it than should be. For these things are just scratching the surface the issues that bind us. Convenient to the false prophets medical injury in my people.
A little word about Natural church growth and the large number of conferences that aims to empower and equip Christians for service. This is also a form of prophetic ministry, since it will help the people of God out of the difficult situation we are. Today, we can be tempted to believe that the solution to the de-Christianization of Norway and decay among Christians is to raise the quality of the activities and make our message more relevant. It may be well intended by the proponents, but I fear that Satan here can use this to seduce us. I'm not fundamentally opposed conferences, but when our relationship with God is not right, when we are stuck in His Word, all human wisdom to folly. I am afraid that in our toil and a striving after being equipped and capable done for duty, being rendered inoperable for God.
False prophets can both entertain and heal. They can trick people out of grace and into legalism. They can seduce people to abuse the grace of a dissolute life. They can also lure people to put their own sense of wisdom in God's word. False prophets can have a varied message. They can persuade people of God to both activity and passivity. Common to all versions is that their message does not lead to God's relationship is played. People are never free from their sins and the power of Satan, the false prophets service. We can be both healed, inspired and be filled with seducing spirits, and this can be experienced enough amazing, but it is Satan's work and intend to overthrow God's own people into damnation.
It is these I look to the gracious: the helpless who feel crushed and who trembles at my word. Isaiah 66: 2b
Characteristics: The Word of God is overshadowed by visions / revelations / experiences. Visions, revelations and experiences in the foreground with the false prophets. They can still use the Bible, but they tear it apart and change its meaning. The prophet Jeremiah we read: I've heard what they say, the prophets that prophesy lies in my name. "I have dreamed, I have dreamed," they say. How long do they think so, these prophets that prophesy lies and proclaim their deceitful contrivance? With dreams that they tell one another, they think to cause my people to forget me, even as their fathers forgot my name, and served Baal. The prophet who has a dream tell the dream; but he that hath my word, he will surely speak my words.
What has straw in common with wheat? declares the LORD. My word, is not it like a fire and like a hammer that breaks the rock? says the Lord. Therefore, I turn to the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words from one another. See, I turn to the prophets, saith the Lord, those who preach oracles if given the tongue of the slide. I turn to the prophets that have lying dreams and tells them, says the Lord. They lead my people astray by their lies and their boasting. I have not sent them or given them any work, and they are certainly not for the benefit of this people, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 23: 25-32
Next time you hear a preacher talk about their dreams and visions, so do not believe that everything is God just on the stage holding a Bible in his hand and citing verses such words spurts. So did the devil. When he tried to seduce Jesus with his vision, he built the lies by quoting the Bible (Matthew 4). No wonder that his servants, the false prophets is his master's footsteps. They use the Bible to support their lies and visions. Notice teaching - is it the Word is preached, the word given authority, or is it the visions, dreams and revelations that are in the center.
When false prophets claim that Jesus physically show up at revival meetings, their coming into conflict with Jesus' own words: if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is Christ,' or 'There He is,' do not believe it! For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders, if that were possible even the elect. Now I have told you in advance! Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the wilderness, 'do not go out, or,' Behold, he is in a room in there, 'do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so will the Son of Man be. Where the carcass is, the vultures gather Matthew 24: 23-28
When false prophets come with silly statements like: Look, he's in a room there, so we should not believe them. They use their revelations and visions to increase his spiritual authority.
Many Christians in Norway are deceived by false teaching about visions, dreams and inner experiences of God's voice. From various quarters will be taught that if you close your eyes, invite the Holy Spirit in and then listening, then we will often, or always, get something. You just have to train yourself and sharpen your senses so you can hear and recognize the Spirit's voice. Where in the Bible they find evidence of such a doctrine? Are all prophets (1 Corinthians 24:29) The Bible speaks of dreams and visions a reality of God's people by Åndsutgytelsen at Pentecost. So yes, we believe that God speaks through dreams and visions, but from there to believe that anyone can easily get there so fast your eyes closed, is heresy. Am I a God who is near? Jer 11:23 p.m. Bible prophets could wait years for God to reveal His word to them. But we all grew up with fastfood expect that eternal God to fill our need for spiritual experience as fast as the burger ends up in the hands of a hamburger restaurant.
Becoming the Lord is Biblical and right. It can be contenders to be quiet. We sin mobiles, and a whole world that prisoners and prisons our thoughts. According to the Bible it is to confess sin, a necessary part of having fellowship with a Holy God, Hebrews 12: 1-2, 1 John 1: 6-10, Luke 18: 9-14, Psalm 32: 5. Our thoughts are helped to be directed toward Jesus through reading His Word. Jesus himself says to Martha in Luke 10: 38-42, that Mary has chosen the good part when she chose to be silent before the Lord in His Word.
In our time the new doctrine crept in; Lie down and relax, so will your Heavenly Dad fill you with His Holy Spirit. Where in the Bible have such a doctrine rooted? It easily wins followers, for in the haste it feels so good to finally get to relax in the face of God. I also believe that God can speak to us, both when we are, standing and walking, cooking dinner and drive to work. But there are so many times we do these everyday things unless God speaks. Do you expect God to speak to you and fill you each time you take a nap on the floor, even when you forget that a lot of things going up in our minds when the eyes are closed and the body comes to rest. When biblical confession away from a rest in the Lord, even when I am afraid there will be a lot of rest and little of the Lord. It is not dangerous to lie still on the floor, and desire to be with his Heavenly Father is a good choice. As I consider it, there are two dangers of such practices. The doctrine, which makes people believe that by lying on the floor being filled by the Holy Spirit and all the errors that can emerge when one devoted to their own thoughts get visions and revelations .. This shows a devil's masterpiece. He gives God's people a new activity, that they think they are Spirit-filled through and take the Word and prayer from us as payment. I am afraid that thousands of people lie down with the wrong expectations, they are unprotected and heart open for hours on the floor, no wonder that they can hear and experience something, seducing spirits can get their chance of a lifetime to rapid progress. This is not God's way of renewal and revival of his people.
Do not let your crown being robbed you of those who present themselves with what they call self-denial, and with engledyrkelse, and adhere to the visions they had. Colossians 2:18
Characteristics: They are looking for their own gain. You who are so wise, tolerate the happy people who have lost sanity. For you bear it if someone makes slaves of you, suck and catches you, treat you superiority strikes you in the face. I must confess with shame that we have been too weak for that! 1 Corinthians 11: 19-21
But there were also false prophets among the people, and likewise must act heretics among you. They are looking for money and dangers of poetry and deception to turn the coin on dere..2 Peter 2: 1a, 3a
The false prophets, the so-called super-apostles, did Korintmenigheten slaves. They tied them to themselves, not to Christ. They were looking for their money and material possessions. Paul asks this in contrast to himself that laid careful to not make a charge. Furthermore - these fake super-apostles treated the Christians in Corinth superior, and went so far as to turn the face while carrying out their ministry.
This is also not unknown in our days, which inflated super-apostles, false prophets bind people to themselves, they rely on their business, are looking for their money, they treat superior and even use physical force and strike them in the face. Certainly spiritualized this to be violence done in the Spirit. The Bible is clear that God commands His servants to buckle sick people in the face, knocking or take stranglehold etc.. It is possible that these false prophets hear a voice, but it is not God's voice. Physical violence done in the name of God, according to Paul is a hallmark of the false apostles. It may well have been many miracles in these violent super apostles' ministry, but God does not stand behind them. He works miracles to confirm the salvation message of Jesus, not to give sick and violent people spiritual authority. Beware of false prophets!
Characteristics: Fake Message But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For you tolerate it very well so when someone comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted. I believe that I am not in the least inferior to those of the apostles. 2 Corinthians 11: 3-5
The Gospel is distorted to primarily be about this life. Focus will be a better life here and now. The tales still about Jesus and the cross, but the really great news is that you can be saved from destitution, poverty and health problems. Through spiritual insight and the right techniques, you can learn how to get your needs in this life satisfied. It's just about getting the right "faith position", so you can get most served on a of gold by ministering angels etc.. Jesus said that His kingdom was not of this world. The Bible promises us never progress and wealth as the fruit of our discipleship. On the contrary, we are assured of self-denial necessity, the world's hatred, struggle against Satan and our sinful nature, and persecution. Paul corrected those who claimed that godliness was a means of gain here and now. Godliness with contentment is great gain, but the pursuit of wealth has plunged many (believers) into perdition. (See Matthew 16: 24-26, John 15: 18-19, Galatians 5: 16-17, Ephesians 6: 10-12, 1 Peter 5: 8-11, 2 Tim 3:12, 1 Timothy 6: 3-10)
Fake grace: Lawlessness or legalism. In our time, it is likely that lawlessness is the biggest challenge. Many false prophets, priests, bishops and preachers runs errands for Satan in this case. One abusing God's grace to live dissolute life of sin (Jude v. 4). A minister grace in such a way that Christian sins with peace of heart, and so it falls remain in the fall and end in apostasy and perdition. Lawlessness has spread with great strength of our country. Christian bookstores overflowing of its advocates, and the false grace proclaimed in Norwegian Church, as well as free congregations and houses of worship. The false grace never carry a man to heaven. Those who teach false grace tells touching stories, but they nullify God's specific commandments and will in the name of love.
He who conceals his sins, it is not well; the one who confesses his sin and turn from it, he will find mercy. Proverbs 28:13 The wicked forsake his way, and the wicked man his thoughts and return to the Lord, and He will show mercy to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. Isaiah 55: 7
Characteristics: Spirit / the Anointing / The anointed are glorified instead of Christ. Jesus said He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. John 4:14 p.m.. In other words, the Spirit will glorify Christ. In some so-called revivals coming of Christ in the background. A still speak a little about cross and blood, but what really grabs the hearts and prisons mind is Spirit or the anointed prophet / his anointing. In this case, we should be wary. For where God's Spirit is in control, where Christ is glorified, without distinction shared with anyone.
Characteristics: False prophets creates false disciples: Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord! Have we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in Your name, and done many mighty works in your name? And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you who do iniquity! Matthew 7: 22-23
A fruit of a false prophet's ministry is false disciples, deceived Christians, whose own life in God. They think they are on the right path. They think they are God's servants who perform miracles in Jesus' name - but one day Jesus will say a harsh judgment of their life, I never knew you. Away from me you evildoers. It is painful to think that the devil, who can turn himself into an angel of light and his servants, both seducing spirits and false prophets, manages to seduce thirsty and hungry Christians. They seduce Christians who thirst for the living water, but drinking the wrong wells. It's sad and scary that this seduction happens so peaceful and gentle that victims do not even notice that grace life dies out, that the Holy Spirit with grief leaves the heart and seducing spirits fills the empty house. The false prophets are themselves deceived by satan. We should beware of them, but at the same time pray that they must find a way to repentance, so that they can get out of the trap Satan has trapped them.
A Christian who is victim of a false prophet, and that gives this false doctrine and spirituality so huge and influential in his life that he eventually becomes completely absorbed, will probably not even be aware of its true condition. Therefore, it is also incredibly difficult to get through to deceived Christians when Satan has got them in its power. They think they are on truth and justice side, and that they are filled with the Holy Spirit.
There are degrees of seduction. We've probably all, in different mon, unhealthy and false teachings in our hearts and minds. Therefore, each one of us present us in light of the Word, so that the individual can try if he is in the faith cf. 2 Cor 13: 5. Seduction starts small, small deviations from God's word. It comes quietly and imperceptibly and seem welcoming. Although it may seem trivial and harmless, it is dangerous, for it leads us away from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ, see 2 Corinthians 11: 5
Beware of the false prophets. Do not think that anyone with a Bible in hand and with Jesus' name on the tongue will you wealth. Beware. See not only on the exterior. Stand in word and judge for the prophet and his message from the Bible. Skip not so easy for a new wave of learning which effortlessly will heal the damage to the people of God. Many false prophets have come forward and many will come forward. Beware not to fall prey to men fake games and their deceitful tricks. (end of quote).
Final Comment: Now was this article so long, come back with more on the same battle. For which I am unfortunately one of the few who take this up in its totality. If you have questions about this or anything else? Write to me or send SMS, all addresses are for this at the top of the page.
Why are you attacking Lord witnesses all the time?
Answer:
I attack no one, only what they stand for. I try to separate the issue from the person. But what is the problem, it is that so few people are doing this and so few will understand what it is about. At a preacher spread a doctrine, false or true. The person as an individual is good or bad, I know that usually very little about, and well, it is. I like what Brother Aage Samuelsen said when he was asked what he thought of the false prophet Aril Edvardsen. Brother Åge said these frit rendered: "Edvardsen'm sure a decent guy, but I can not be his teachings." That's what I try and want to attack, illuminating and estimated street all the time.
Was a while back in a discussion with erstanings theologian Finn Arne Lauvås who have rejected Israel in prophecy. He acted directly nauseating and usakeligt, and what should one do, then, when all the dead and lives to defend him if he is a false teacher and a deceiver? God's people are AutoIt believe and why they are so easily deceived and led astray! They can not bring themselves to believe the most part, frightening and alarming!
I also try a take forward the positive, but also negative. It offers problems for many. I thought f. Example good about Ludvig Karlsen, but the attitude he had and that he accepted so many gjengiftede around him made me sick!
The 90's was a preacher, Arne Bakken into Pentecostalism fracture with Åge Åleskjær. Remember I reacted strongly that they would drop the Bakken to the pulpit when he had an unbiblical teachings with him, that Jesus died spiritually, thus I warned at the time, several leaders of the Pentecostal movement which was responsible for The hill also seem to drop he added, but claiming that he was no heretic. I even had one cassette where they could hear with their own ears he teachings of the so-called JDS doctrine Unfortunately, it ended tragically, he died as a young man. The leaders of the Pentecostal movement is indirectly responsible for this circus that ends in death and destruction and tragedy for many.
It is strange and unnatural for most Christians to the biblical way today as they are not used to and live and orient themselves by the word of God, like an orienteer who have never used a map and compass, or a fisherman who has never been the ocean, or an industrial worker who has never used his body. I really know most Christians and preachers isærdeleshet not God, John 17: 3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, whom thou hast sent, Jesus Christ.
We need to know the Father, the only true God. The spiritual life is always based on knowledge of prior knowledge. This knowledge will regulate us so we do not go wrong, but it is knowledge that is the secret. When the spiritual condition is so low, it is almost dangerous to walk in the churches today, it sucks and they will take the spiritual stopper out of you when the spiritual life is so fallacious and unsound in the churches of the whole, Rev. 18 4, Go out from her, my people. Paul went forward with integrity, which we must do, 2 Corinthians 4 1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty roads and hazards not find the list, nor word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. "
Had a man like Paul come to the Norwegian Christendom, he had barely gotten enough borrowed pulpit with anyone. It is currently okupert of a lukewarm, insipid, childish, immature, misleading, besserwisser preach people in Norway who do not measure either faith or works, lives or teach, love or truth. It is simply Laodikearådende conditions in the church in Norway, see my commentaries on this in Joh.åp 3: 14-22.
How could I have continued. Now, neither Reinhard Bonke, the perfect and infallible besserwisseren to Norway because of lumbago, who is a well known healing evangelist now even sick in her best age. When will it start to ring a bell for many? It looks dark.
Here's a little pinch how different healing evangelists lived and died. The last thing is that Joyce Meyer security guard killed first wife and then his own children and then swore his innocence, this is just the tip of the iceberg!
Here a short summary of how these American healing evangelist lived and died.
By Jan Lilleby
In my opinion the Norwegian pastors and evangelists,
some of the most naive that exists in this country. This is then
clearly demonstrated when one hears their constant nagging and
street organ-like repetition of these false helbredelses-
learning and incredible "magic formulas" to be healed by God.
It looks as if everything will depend on how much we can meet
God's many huffy, so we finally manage to
wrest him the long awaited healing.
Each preacher and evangelist who feel
struck by this article, each individual only
try to test themselves, to find out whether
he has been deceived by false teaching.
The reader is also recommended to read an article on my website about Hobart Freeman. This is a real "eyeopener" for those who believe that it is gold that glitters. Faith Movement is trying to suppressing the only real hero of faith among them, He died to take the consequences of his teachings!
Ever since Aril Edvardsen in 1960 took the country TLOsborns book "Heal the sick", so it has sort of been an unwritten law that "healing" in the name of Jesus, it is the American preachers who knows anything about. And little gullible Ola Dunk Christian version, has accepted this unwritten law. As a result of this low-brow mindset often exposed through several of the famous evangelist services in Norway, sits most Christians today defrauded into believing that divine healing should be something we as Christians are entitled. This is a lie and a false doctrine, which I hereby are strongly opposed. I must admit that I was among those who, when I was born-again and completely unknown in the word of God, bought this book and assumed its teachings about healing as normal. But today, "light years" afterward, the image is quite another. It turns out that American healing evangelist's teachings on healing by faith, not deleted works in their own lives. They have had (shameful) go to hospitals and doctors to help with their illnesses. Yet so continue them to pretend nothing and want Christians still follow their wrong teaching about healing. This is hypocrisy, and a false way of living as a Christian. Such must accept to be revealed and put in place by me and many others. Christianity can claim truth in both teaching and practice, whether we are talking about divine healing or other forms of deity all procedures in believers. God is not interested in his children to live a lie, and walk around with false hopes - based on the promises God has never given.
With these words of introduction, we will now see that these half-gods of healing some preachers do not live what they preach. The large mass - the church - must find themselves being taught by these false prophets how to turn the healing and other blessings, through clever techniques, confessions and virrvar of prayer techniques, yes - actually have some in case (Oral Roberts and son ) promised to those who give donations into their service / organization, having to get healing with financial blessings. All lies that is.
In another article might we actually be looking into precisely Oral "Seed Faith" Faith Roberts tricks, he wondered Christianity in decades.
KNOWN AND THEIR HEALING preacher
MORAL AND FAKE LIFE
CHARLES CAPPS, faith-movement teacher in the USA, the author of "Creative Word" - and that also inspired Kenneth Copeland to take in this doctrine. What you speak in faith, that God by his power to create reality. It is also from these two both Jan Hanvold in TV Vision Norway and several other evangelists, known and unknown bases much of his learning. The former actually has a regular column in its report magazine every month, which is titled "Creative Word". The topics under this heading varies each month. But from time to time, it comes to the surface that Hanvold believe is in the same street as the magical occult Capps and Copeland. He is in "good company" for too Åge Åleskjær have some things that are taught in the same faith and doctrine. Capps taught including (his book "Tongue", page 43) "I do not deny the existence of the disease. I refuse the disease right to exist in this body, because I am the body of Christ." He and his wife do not live as it preached: The wife has cancer and has been medically treated. Has not she then persuaded the proper "magic" creative words to keep cancer away from his body? The same applies to the Norwegian preachers: Why are they doing this nonsense, when it never works in real life? They use the doctors and dentists! Why not rather BE HONEST CHRISTIAN who admits that it is by God's grace that we may get to experience divine healing, and not by occult confession techniques ???? Why is it so hard to leave the lie?
JACK COE, a world-renowned American healer (his son has in recent years been in Norway and spoken) - died of poliomylitt. Coe warned his audience that "..dagen would come when those who visited doctors would be forced to take the mark of the beast". He died thus while doctors tried to save his life.
KEITH Grayton, from the prophetic movement in the United States (Kansas Prophets) died of AIDS. He believed false doctrine's about to confess positively, speak out creative faith, "name it and claim it", said the public meeting campaign that he was healed. But just two years after he died.
KENNETH Hagin SR., - Most will know that he is considered to be the father of all the religious movement after he stole (plagiarized) books Esseker W. Kenyon. (See separate articles on Hagin) He died as many do, of heart problems in September 2003.
BUDDY HARRISON, Hagins-law and former director of the Harrison House Publishers (one of the largest publishers in terms Gnostic Word-Faith doctrine), died of cancer in 1999, Hagins own special helbredelses- anointing could not help his own son in law to recovery.
Esseker W. KENYON, the real godfather of the Faith movement's teachings. He attended Emerson College of Oratory in Boston in the late 1800s. An educational institution where it is hatched both Scientologists (Baker Eddy) and other dubious cult leaders. Although he was captivated by New Thought, a doctrine that had the man's metaphysical abilities, by the power of thought to produce tangible manifestations. Kenyon coupled this with something he called the laws of God's word. And so he promoted Christianized occultism - we can call this neo-Gnosticism. Kenyon taught divine healing through faith, and that it was always God's will to heal. But he died in a coma caused by a growing tumor. He died of disease.
Kathryn Kuhlman, known helbrederske and role model for including Benny Hinn and John Arnott, - died of heart failure in 1976 she suffered the heart disease for over 20 years before she died.
AIMEE Semple MCPHERSON, - mentioned in other articles of mine. She died of suicide by overdose in 1944, probably as a result of major depression as a result of her fallen life (multiple divorces and an unholy worldly life).
SUSANNE Hinn, Benny Hinn's wife, suffering from manic depression and paranoia. She is consequently also a kleptomaniac, considering that Hinn is a multi-millionaire on his healing campanjer. She was taken by police in Cape Town, South Africa in broad daylight as she stole along two sets of pajamas from a clothes shop. Still prefer the brutal and ruthless Benny Hinn's wife on their campaigns, and let her fool of themselves on stage in their cramp-like "falling in the spirit" ecstasies. Henne is the person one must provide the sympathy of all. Poor troubled man. She needs help and peace and quiet, not the half-mad treatment Hinn inflict on this poor sick man!
JOYCE MEYERS, a relatively new "canon" in the United States in recent years. Known for its healing meetings. But she can be placed in the rare category of honest preachers, who admits to having been wrong. She has breast cancer and has gone to medical treatment. She believed blindly in so-called "Positive Confession" - admitting positive, then receive God's healing power.
DAISY OSBORN, wife to himself T.L. Osborn, the one with the famous book "Heal the sick," and that probably needs to be said to have helped make Aril Edvardsen service known (book) - she
unfortunately died of cancer several years ago. The wife of the man who "knew all about healing," as in any rate Norwegian ministers think in terms of the said book.
John Osteen, known super pastor of Faith church in Houston, Texas. His wife Dodie have liver cancer, but by God's grace and medical treatment she survived! John Osteen himself, died in late 1998, due to several disease complications. His church "acquaintances" his healing and himself declared that God had told him that he would stand on the podium as ninety years old. But Osteen died when he was something out of the 70s. One of the recent sad stories about Christian's death in the disease, the mega-church pastor John Osteen who received kidney failure in 1998, and in August of the same year he was investigated for the heart, but this was clear then. But later he had to have surgery anyway and got admitted one Pacemaker. Pastor Osteen knew he "needed a miracle." He claimed that God had given him a promise from Psalm 27, 14 were sent out prayer rings-lust among his friends to seek the Lord for his healing. They agreed on Psalm 41 the Lord's liberating intervention and protection to save his life. The Lord will raise him up. "Lord" (?) Gave him a vision that showed that he would live into their ninety years and be active preacher. Osteen acquaintances its healing understands 20,000 parishioners - and they stood together in unity for his healing. They thought that he would get his miracle, as his wife Dodie got her. But, unfortunately, this did not happen.
(Read the story on www.letusreason.org, article by Mike Oppenheimer)
ROD Parsley, one of the last great guns in the religious movement, has even had a back operation and he has an autistic son who was diagnosed Asberg syndrome. Parsley has always gone hard with false doctrine of "Name it, and claim it" positive confession, and whatever else one usually learns in Word-Faith Gnosticism. But no cure has been given to him or his little sick son. But stubborn and blind to its own false doctrine, so anyway Parsley and still be on TV in which he declares his son Austin to be fresh. Parsley is fore and loud when he learns his "Confession" -kristendom and healing. Yet he has a deaf-section of the venue with deaf interpreters. Parsley teaches in his book "Renamed and Redeemed": "Jesus is not sick - I do not need to be sick!" - The vulgar interpretation of the word of God is falling on its own stupidity and lack of thought. Then we could also say the "Jesus did not sin, - I also do not sin", thus making redundant by grace that we are even able to do as Jesus. It is much better if these boasters thoughtless preachers both runs itself, and begin to recognize that we little people can not command the Lord around which our errand boy. We are His submissive obedient servants, not masters! (This information is pr. 1999)
R.W. Schambach, known evangelist (have been in Norway) -and also has a healing ministry. "No problem, all you need is faith in God." He said in a television program on TBN in the United States. But it is not good then, that God has also acquired the doctors and surgeons? Without these, Schambach had to stand for the judge several years ago: He has implanted a four-channel bypass in a heartbeat!
ORAL ROBERTS, "father" to all who teach "Seed Faith" (to sow in faith, and have 100-fold again, etc..) Heresy. Began as a young healing evangelist in the healing revival in the United States in the wake of the occult healer William M. Branham, in the late 40's. If someone says they are suffering from symptoms of heart failure but then deny the symptoms and claim healing by faith, they can die. A frightening example of this was when Oral Roberts took part in a television show on TBN, where Paul Crouch hosted the program "Praise the Lord". (6.Okt. 1992) Oral Roberts asked Paul Crouch to lay their hands on him, when he got chest pain during the program (I have to think of Paul's prophecy about the end-time false teachers: "Their folly shall be manifest to all", 2 .Tim.3, 8-9) - which was seen by millions of viewers in the United States. During intercession for openly begin Roberts to declare: "I feel Jesus' healing power!" And he said it felt like an electric current through the body. "Paul, you are anointed," he told TV host. Oral Roberts was declared healed TBNs program. But was he really? Just four hours later, when he visited the famous Newport Beach, California - felt Roberts more pain and was soon sent to Hoag Presbyterian Memorial Hospital, also located in Newport Beach (this small town is home to many of the world movie stars and cuttings, and Paul Crouch even live there in a huge villa on 3000 sqm.) Various articles written about the incident with Oral Roberts disease, provide a comprehensive account of the disease. Several wrote that Roberts's heart attack was near fatal. But he was rescued, and Oral Roberts is now with a pacemaker to ensure your heart rate. But, believe it or not, this fact is completely overlooked by the obedient and mindless audience, yet allow themselves to be deceived by false Roberts healing teachings and "Seed Faith" -Learn. One might ask yourself why?
A number of other names being mentioned in an article by Sandy Simpson, where the above facts come from. But these are little known in Norway, and they are mostly in the same street: Large-speaking healing evangelists (often rich in gift income from Christians) promises healing everywhere and anywhere, but even after they do not live what they learn. They have one facing outward, while on the TV route or in the pulpit. But in everyday real problems and struggles, their lives are entirely different. Stardust turns to gray dust and toil, and vows never get to experience true. The worst is not. The worst thing is that they do not understand or realize that they are failures. They should have enough humility before God and man that they admitted to having made a mistake, and then gone out and complained publicly that they have brought false promises to the table and deceived Christendom.
Final Comment:
Torp is emerging as a sick person, which cuts over others instead of making up their own shame! This is probably a psychopath afoot?
This is from something I've written in Searchlight, which no one could answer:
January rosemary christensen Wed, 09.30.2014 at 5:50 p.m. said:
If I got it right, if it had helped, so I'd take running shoes or work shoes off hold and kicked Hanvold, Torp and all other gjengiftede my crotch for what they are doing does not bring revival and progress with it. However, judgment, death and destruction!
Of course this does not help, why God gave us the law, but I think allikvel the church discipline. And how could it have been? Scripture is very clear, first, they warn privately, as in the church. They do not listen when they are supported out of the church.
When is my question.
Torp, Hanvold and many others that are re-married as Christians and thus living in adultery, in what way should they be expelled from the congregation? This is not God's "work", but this is the church's responsibility and "job" for the font in Matt. 18 and elsewhere!
An article in which I discuss the importance of also naming the false preachers that Jesus and the apostles did it:
Should we name the heresies and those who seduces others?
Answer:
Both yes and no. I regret sometimes to have gone too high on the track and put in by too fast. One can not always expect things in the spiritual realm understood in one, two, three. Things must mature and it might take many years to to arrive at the position one has taken in some cases.
It has probably helped to derail a debate in which I have classed a heretic, even as it is known, but that he has confidence. When should rather express themselves in a different way by saying straight out what a mean, without the relevant stamp as heresies.
And it has been a way for me to get where I am today, one must not forget out of "the cow has also been calf!"
But by all means, one must attribute the heretics who are preachers and what their heresy involves. I try never to mention other than preachers would you and heretics. But in discussions, it is very important to first explain what heresy is about before someone dies as heretics!
Something I have learned in discussions with people should stick to discussing the issue and not the person. But in a larger article or post can discuss and record both.
Jesus and all of God's men and women in both the Old and New Testament navngav heretics. But they took over everything up their learning and what it stood for.
Jesus called Herod a fox, and the Pharisees had a teaching that was like unto leaven, which spread in even the good that they learned. Peter, John and Paul navngav. Here is an example of it:
1 Tim. 1 18 This commandment I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the earlier prophecy concerning thee, that thou by them will fight the good fight, 19 as you have faith and a good conscience; it has some cast away and suffered shipwreck in the faith; 20 Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may be chastised for not to blaspheme.
Hymenaeus and Alexander learned the following: 2 Tim. 2 16 But shun profane and vain babblings for they always go further in ungodliness, 17 and their word will eat as doth as dead meat. Among these are Hymenaeus and Filetus, 18 who has gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection is past already, and overthrow the faith of some.
Paul navngav them and who they were. It also looks like it had its impact since his second letter omitted one of Heretics and put a new one in. Being exposed and held responsible for what one learns and how one lives as a minister, it seems both those who may be exposed and those who trust them. That is what is the purpose of naming people in public.
I have for example. named a certain pastor concrete. For my part, so many of the things I have brought forth nothing to say to me when I was already in 1985 showed that he was a false prophet, then he was married to his 1st wife. But for other people to understand that he is a servant of Satan and not a servant of God, it must appear to the name of person and learn, or lack of learning.
Paul and all of the biblical men took up what they saw as the most appropriate and which could expose and put both deceivers and those who were deceived into place! Therefore, we can now also do and should do the same.
Here are some examples of both those who seduces and content of seduction. Notice how specific and straightforward word of God takes up this theme:
Ananias and Sapphira
The story of this couple (Ac. 5, 1-11) may not be used as examples of apostates.
It's not clear that they were believers, but was happy with the herd without. Sin was still large and serious. Cf. Simon in Sec. 8, 9-25.
However, there are other people in Paul's letter to Timothy. They are particularly interesting since we where not encounter Christianity in the first vekkelsestid. The conditions have now stabilized somewhat.
The churches have second and third generation Christians among themselves. Some have been old. Church Life may become more "normal". Was all living Christian true believers at that time? How has the rise been? Paul mentions several people for Timothy as it has gone wrong for. He mentions several of them by
name!
Hymenaeus and Alexander
We meet them in 1 Tim. 1, 19-20. Here the apostle says that the young Timothy will fight the good fight as he has faith and a good conscience. Then it will go well. Then comes a sad remark. Some in the church have cast away the good conscience. When it has the so shipwrecked their faith. This can not mean anything other than that they have lost their faith, and received his gudsliv broken so it goes with a ship runs aground in stormy weather. The seriousness of these verses is: If we do not take into account the conscience and obey it, will get a response of the faith: it dies. Look therefore carefully how Paul himself was with his own life (Acts. 23, 1, 24, 16, 2 Tim. 1, 3).
"The verb 'to throw down' (Greek: apotheo) involves a violent and deliberate rejection," says D.
Guthrie in Tyndale NTC. Both this term and "shipwrecked" means that they once had been saved and "begun faith journey," as Bengel puts it.
In Sec. 1, 6f in the same letter he mentions some others who have gone astray from the "love out of a pure heart and a good conscience and faith unfeigned" (v. 5). The word "wander" is used not to achieve its objectives (chapter. 6, 21, 2 Tim. 2, 18). Therefore, translation of 1975 say here: "Some have strayed from this goal." One who has gone astray from the faith and conscience can not be saved. But the term also shows that they once have been. The conclusion we must go even if it is not expressly said
here. Perhaps thinking of Paul the same as in vv. 19f.
Secondly, Paul is a serious word about the officers that we have to use here. They must not be selected among the new believers. Why was it so dangerous? Jo - that they be inflated "and fall into the condemnation of the devil." They must also be respected by unbelievers that they should not "fall into reproach and the snare of the devil." 1 Tim. 3, 6-7. Here we should note that several other translations translator as in vv. 6 "and fall under the same judgment as the devil" (f. Items. Ungd.overs., NT 75 and Gunnesdotter).
Then it says here that a new convert (which here must mean salvation) you get the same judgment as the devil, ie destruction. Behind Paul's words are perhaps the thought that the devil is a fallen angel who was toppled down because of his arrogance (Jud. 6, Isaiah 14, 12ff).
The new converts can also come to fall into the snare of the devil, v. 7 If someone is caught in his snare, it means that he has been free, it will here say a citizen of God's kingdom. And the devil catches, let him not voluntary. Cf. 2 Tim. 2, 26.
To fall into the condemnation of the devil can not mean that the devil should (active) judge them. It is rather as Bengel remarks here: "The devil does not judge, he is convicted." Therefore, it must mean that they get the same sentence as him. To be inflated in service as a Christian, is arrogance. And it is the arch sin toward God. It was Satan's sin. The following his sin, must also accompany him in his judgment.
To fall into the snare of the devil means to get his power. The bird caught in our snare is absolutely in our power. The devil never shows mercy to those he catches by their wiles.
The burden of this section is primarily: Also a minister, priest, missionary or Christian leader may fall and perish. We have examples in church history.
Hymenaeus and Filetus
Mentioned in 2 Tim. 2, 17f as examples of those who have gone astray from the faith. We do not have definite proof that Hymenaeus here is the same person as in 1 Tim. 1, 20) They have false doctrine of the resurrection and overthrow the faith of some. This also speaks clearly for the possibility of direct apostasy. These two have gone astray from the truth, there is a direct expression of apostasy. And overthrow the faith of the Christians. It also leads away from God's path.
Demas
We know little about this man. He is mentioned in 2 Tim. 4, 10; Kol. 4, 14; Fil. 24 He left Paul because of his love for this world. Tradition says that he fell from the faith. The word for love here is the strong word agape. In 1 Jn. 2, 15 we see that the love of the world can not be reconciled with life in God. The second letter to Timothy is probably the last we have from his hand, and it speaks of a sad ending for the Lord employee. - It is also Lutheran expositors who think this is not referring to spiritual apostasy, but that Demas traveled from Paul of "Fear that share Paul's disorder and heritage part of his renunciation" (Fr. Torm). But the text says nothing about.
This is from my commentaries Galatians 1 6 I marvel that ye are so soon you away from him that called you into the grace of Christ and are moved to a different gospel.
Paul goes to a strong attack against this ministry. It can not be reconciled with the true Christian faith.
It is a "different gospel" that separates those of Jesus Christ. There are other words for the life of the Galatians. God is jealous when it comes to his son's saving work on Calvary and can not stand that someone speaks falsely about Jesus' salvation. It Judaists preached was a diabolical lie. Throughout church history
there have been different variations of "another gospel". Common to all such preaching is that it is not based on the Bible alone, but blends the human logic and thought into.
Another gospel undermines confidence in the word of God, and thus God himself. This leads to idolatry. For man himself takes the place of God. That is why the devil's gospel.
7 However, there is no other gospel; there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Judaists also spoke of the grace of God, but they spoke not only of God's grace. It was something that was added to the grace of God. It was God's grace plus something more. And it was this "something more" that destroyed the proclamation of grace. God's word says namely that "My grace is enough". Lay it as something it is not enough anymore, and pulled something from it is not enough. That grace is enough means that it is sufficient. Judaists preached grace plus works. But it is not. For if God saves us for something we have done, they are the God in debt to us. Yes, Rom. 4.4 states that "Whoever has deeds, him not imputed wage of grace, but of debt."
But how was it that the doctrine of atonement for human sin in Judaists? Yes, it actually heard also. They said it about so that the Vicar of Christ's life and death would replace what was missing in lovoppfyllelsen. Such a gospel could always hear logical. It fits with our usual way of thinking. Would not this drive for good works, I wonder? We do the best we can, and Jesus will take on what is lacking in us - and so are all hurting well. No, it is not so. For it is this that Paul calls "another gospel". A've said this so that it is "the gospel of this world", or to "the religious hops gospel".
8 But though we, even if an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached, let him be accursed!
Galatians is not only a violent confrontation with heresy. It is even more strongly confront heretic. People who preach "another gospel" should not the Christian church have something. Paul is tough on those that require circumcision of Christians. (Gal 5,12).
Bible says about these people:
• they are cursed by God (Gal 1, 8-9)
• they have lost their eternal life (Rev. 22, 18-19)
• it would be better that they were sunk in the depths of the sea with a stone around his neck
(Matt 18.6 Mark 9.42 and Luke 17.1)
It is important that a Christian lives so that life does not obscure the gospel. We do not provide us enemies or so live that we are disliked by most people. But in relation to the false Christianity should not be any attention to what people may think about us. Counterfeit Christianity must be fought no matter how unpopular it makes us.
2 John 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house and neither bid him God!
9 We have said it before and I repeat it now: if anyone preaches any other gospel than that ye have received, let him be accursed!
Listen to what Paul says about such a message: For it to be cursed is to be lost. Do Now: Law can not save a man, it can only curse the sinner. Placing yourself therefore under the law, you place yourself under the curse.
Related article:
JACK COE, a world-renowned American healer (his son has in recent years been in Norway and spoken) - died of poliomylitt. Coe warned his audience that "..dagen would come when those who visited doctors would be forced to take the mark of the beast". He died thus while doctors tried to save his life.
KEITH Grayton, from the prophetic movement in the United States (Kansas Prophets) died of AIDS. He believed false doctrine's about to confess positively, speak out creative faith, "name it and claim it", said the public meeting campaign that he was healed. But just two years after he died.
KENNETH Hagin SR., - Most will know that he is considered to be the father of all the religious movement after he stole (plagiarized) books Esseker W. Kenyon. (See separate articles on Hagin) He died as many do, of heart problems in September 2003.
BUDDY HARRISON, Hagins-law and former director of the Harrison House Publishers (one of the largest publishers in terms Gnostic Word-Faith doctrine), died of cancer in 1999, Hagins own special helbredelses- anointing could not help his own son in law to recovery.
Esseker W. KENYON, the real godfather of the Faith movement's teachings. He attended Emerson College of Oratory in Boston in the late 1800s. An educational institution where it is hatched both Scientologists (Baker Eddy) and other dubious cult leaders. Although he was captivated by New Thought, a doctrine that had the man's metaphysical abilities, by the power of thought to produce tangible manifestations. Kenyon coupled this with something he called the laws of God's word. And so he promoted Christianized occultism - we can call this neo-Gnosticism. Kenyon taught divine healing through faith, and that it was always God's will to heal. But he died in a coma caused by a growing tumor. He died of disease.
Kathryn Kuhlman, known helbrederske and role model for including Benny Hinn and John Arnott, - died of heart failure in 1976 she suffered the heart disease for over 20 years before she died.
AIMEE Semple MCPHERSON, - mentioned in other articles of mine. She died of suicide by overdose in 1944, probably as a result of major depression as a result of her fallen life (multiple divorces and an unholy worldly life).
SUSANNE Hinn, Benny Hinn's wife, suffering from manic depression and paranoia. She is consequently also a kleptomaniac, considering that Hinn is a multi-millionaire on his healing campanjer. She was taken by police in Cape Town, South Africa in broad daylight as she stole along two sets of pajamas from a clothes shop. Still prefer the brutal and ruthless Benny Hinn's wife on their campaigns, and let her fool of themselves on stage in their cramp-like "falling in the spirit" ecstasies. Henne is the person one must provide the sympathy of all. Poor troubled man. She needs help and peace and quiet, not the half-mad treatment Hinn inflict on this poor sick man!
JOYCE MEYERS, a relatively new "canon" in the United States in recent years. Known for its healing meetings. But she can be placed in the rare category of honest preachers, who admits to having been wrong. She has breast cancer and has gone to medical treatment. She believed blindly in so-called "Positive Confession" - admitting positive, then receive God's healing power.
DAISY OSBORN, wife to himself T.L. Osborn, the one with the famous book "Heal the sick," and that probably needs to be said to have helped make Aril Edvardsen service known (book) - she
unfortunately died of cancer several years ago. The wife of the man who "knew all about healing," as in any rate Norwegian ministers think in terms of the said book.
John Osteen, known super pastor of Faith church in Houston, Texas. His wife Dodie have liver cancer, but by God's grace and medical treatment she survived! John Osteen himself, died in late 1998, due to several disease complications. His church "acquaintances" his healing and himself declared that God had told him that he would stand on the podium as ninety years old. But Osteen died when he was something out of the 70s. One of the recent sad stories about Christian's death in the disease, the mega-church pastor John Osteen who received kidney failure in 1998, and in August of the same year he was investigated for the heart, but this was clear then. But later he had to have surgery anyway and got admitted one Pacemaker. Pastor Osteen knew he "needed a miracle." He claimed that God had given him a promise from Psalm 27, 14 were sent out prayer rings-lust among his friends to seek the Lord for his healing. They agreed on Psalm 41 the Lord's liberating intervention and protection to save his life. The Lord will raise him up. "Lord" (?) Gave him a vision that showed that he would live into their ninety years and be active preacher. Osteen acquaintances its healing understands 20,000 parishioners - and they stood together in unity for his healing. They thought that he would get his miracle, as his wife Dodie got her. But, unfortunately, this did not happen.
(Read the story on www.letusreason.org, article by Mike Oppenheimer)
ROD Parsley, one of the last great guns in the religious movement, has even had a back operation and he has an autistic son who was diagnosed Asberg syndrome. Parsley has always gone hard with false doctrine of "Name it, and claim it" positive confession, and whatever else one usually learns in Word-Faith Gnosticism. But no cure has been given to him or his little sick son. But stubborn and blind to its own false doctrine, so anyway Parsley and still be on TV in which he declares his son Austin to be fresh. Parsley is fore and loud when he learns his "Confession" -kristendom and healing. Yet he has a deaf-section of the venue with deaf interpreters. Parsley teaches in his book "Renamed and Redeemed": "Jesus is not sick - I do not need to be sick!" - The vulgar interpretation of the word of God is falling on its own stupidity and lack of thought. Then we could also say the "Jesus did not sin, - I also do not sin", thus making redundant by grace that we are even able to do as Jesus. It is much better if these boasters thoughtless preachers both runs itself, and begin to recognize that we little people can not command the Lord around which our errand boy. We are His submissive obedient servants, not masters! (This information is pr. 1999)
R.W. Schambach, known evangelist (have been in Norway) -and also has a healing ministry. "No problem, all you need is faith in God." He said in a television program on TBN in the United States. But it is not good then, that God has also acquired the doctors and surgeons? Without these, Schambach had to stand for the judge several years ago: He has implanted a four-channel bypass in a heartbeat!
ORAL ROBERTS, "father" to all who teach "Seed Faith" (to sow in faith, and have 100-fold again, etc..) Heresy. Began as a young healing evangelist in the healing revival in the United States in the wake of the occult healer William M. Branham, in the late 40's. If someone says they are suffering from symptoms of heart failure but then deny the symptoms and claim healing by faith, they can die. A frightening example of this was when Oral Roberts took part in a television show on TBN, where Paul Crouch hosted the program "Praise the Lord". (6.Okt. 1992) Oral Roberts asked Paul Crouch to lay their hands on him, when he got chest pain during the program (I have to think of Paul's prophecy about the end-time false teachers: "Their folly shall be manifest to all", 2 .Tim.3, 8-9) - which was seen by millions of viewers in the United States. During intercession for openly begin Roberts to declare: "I feel Jesus' healing power!" And he said it felt like an electric current through the body. "Paul, you are anointed," he told TV host. Oral Roberts was declared healed TBNs program. But was he really? Just four hours later, when he visited the famous Newport Beach, California - felt Roberts more pain and was soon sent to Hoag Presbyterian Memorial Hospital, also located in Newport Beach (this small town is home to many of the world movie stars and cuttings, and Paul Crouch even live there in a huge villa on 3000 sqm.) Various articles written about the incident with Oral Roberts disease, provide a comprehensive account of the disease. Several wrote that Roberts's heart attack was near fatal. But he was rescued, and Oral Roberts is now with a pacemaker to ensure your heart rate. But, believe it or not, this fact is completely overlooked by the obedient and mindless audience, yet allow themselves to be deceived by false Roberts healing teachings and "Seed Faith" -Learn. One might ask yourself why?
A number of other names being mentioned in an article by Sandy Simpson, where the above facts come from. But these are little known in Norway, and they are mostly in the same street: Large-speaking healing evangelists (often rich in gift income from Christians) promises healing everywhere and anywhere, but even after they do not live what they learn. They have one facing outward, while on the TV route or in the pulpit. But in everyday real problems and struggles, their lives are entirely different. Stardust turns to gray dust and toil, and vows never get to experience true. The worst is not. The worst thing is that they do not understand or realize that they are failures. They should have enough humility before God and man that they admitted to having made a mistake, and then gone out and complained publicly that they have brought false promises to the table and deceived Christendom.
Final Comment:
Torp is emerging as a sick person, which cuts over others instead of making up their own shame! This is probably a psychopath afoot?
This is from something I've written in Searchlight, which no one could answer:
January rosemary christensen Wed, 09.30.2014 at 5:50 p.m. said:
If I got it right, if it had helped, so I'd take running shoes or work shoes off hold and kicked Hanvold, Torp and all other gjengiftede my crotch for what they are doing does not bring revival and progress with it. However, judgment, death and destruction!
Of course this does not help, why God gave us the law, but I think allikvel the church discipline. And how could it have been? Scripture is very clear, first, they warn privately, as in the church. They do not listen when they are supported out of the church.
When is my question.
Torp, Hanvold and many others that are re-married as Christians and thus living in adultery, in what way should they be expelled from the congregation? This is not God's "work", but this is the church's responsibility and "job" for the font in Matt. 18 and elsewhere!
An article in which I discuss the importance of also naming the false preachers that Jesus and the apostles did it:
Should we name the heresies and those who seduces others?
Answer:
Both yes and no. I regret sometimes to have gone too high on the track and put in by too fast. One can not always expect things in the spiritual realm understood in one, two, three. Things must mature and it might take many years to to arrive at the position one has taken in some cases.
It has probably helped to derail a debate in which I have classed a heretic, even as it is known, but that he has confidence. When should rather express themselves in a different way by saying straight out what a mean, without the relevant stamp as heresies.
And it has been a way for me to get where I am today, one must not forget out of "the cow has also been calf!"
But by all means, one must attribute the heretics who are preachers and what their heresy involves. I try never to mention other than preachers would you and heretics. But in discussions, it is very important to first explain what heresy is about before someone dies as heretics!
Something I have learned in discussions with people should stick to discussing the issue and not the person. But in a larger article or post can discuss and record both.
Jesus and all of God's men and women in both the Old and New Testament navngav heretics. But they took over everything up their learning and what it stood for.
Jesus called Herod a fox, and the Pharisees had a teaching that was like unto leaven, which spread in even the good that they learned. Peter, John and Paul navngav. Here is an example of it:
1 Tim. 1 18 This commandment I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the earlier prophecy concerning thee, that thou by them will fight the good fight, 19 as you have faith and a good conscience; it has some cast away and suffered shipwreck in the faith; 20 Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may be chastised for not to blaspheme.
Hymenaeus and Alexander learned the following: 2 Tim. 2 16 But shun profane and vain babblings for they always go further in ungodliness, 17 and their word will eat as doth as dead meat. Among these are Hymenaeus and Filetus, 18 who has gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection is past already, and overthrow the faith of some.
Paul navngav them and who they were. It also looks like it had its impact since his second letter omitted one of Heretics and put a new one in. Being exposed and held responsible for what one learns and how one lives as a minister, it seems both those who may be exposed and those who trust them. That is what is the purpose of naming people in public.
I have for example. named a certain pastor concrete. For my part, so many of the things I have brought forth nothing to say to me when I was already in 1985 showed that he was a false prophet, then he was married to his 1st wife. But for other people to understand that he is a servant of Satan and not a servant of God, it must appear to the name of person and learn, or lack of learning.
Paul and all of the biblical men took up what they saw as the most appropriate and which could expose and put both deceivers and those who were deceived into place! Therefore, we can now also do and should do the same.
Here are some examples of both those who seduces and content of seduction. Notice how specific and straightforward word of God takes up this theme:
Ananias and Sapphira
The story of this couple (Ac. 5, 1-11) may not be used as examples of apostates.
It's not clear that they were believers, but was happy with the herd without. Sin was still large and serious. Cf. Simon in Sec. 8, 9-25.
However, there are other people in Paul's letter to Timothy. They are particularly interesting since we where not encounter Christianity in the first vekkelsestid. The conditions have now stabilized somewhat.
The churches have second and third generation Christians among themselves. Some have been old. Church Life may become more "normal". Was all living Christian true believers at that time? How has the rise been? Paul mentions several people for Timothy as it has gone wrong for. He mentions several of them by
name!
Hymenaeus and Alexander
We meet them in 1 Tim. 1, 19-20. Here the apostle says that the young Timothy will fight the good fight as he has faith and a good conscience. Then it will go well. Then comes a sad remark. Some in the church have cast away the good conscience. When it has the so shipwrecked their faith. This can not mean anything other than that they have lost their faith, and received his gudsliv broken so it goes with a ship runs aground in stormy weather. The seriousness of these verses is: If we do not take into account the conscience and obey it, will get a response of the faith: it dies. Look therefore carefully how Paul himself was with his own life (Acts. 23, 1, 24, 16, 2 Tim. 1, 3).
"The verb 'to throw down' (Greek: apotheo) involves a violent and deliberate rejection," says D.
Guthrie in Tyndale NTC. Both this term and "shipwrecked" means that they once had been saved and "begun faith journey," as Bengel puts it.
In Sec. 1, 6f in the same letter he mentions some others who have gone astray from the "love out of a pure heart and a good conscience and faith unfeigned" (v. 5). The word "wander" is used not to achieve its objectives (chapter. 6, 21, 2 Tim. 2, 18). Therefore, translation of 1975 say here: "Some have strayed from this goal." One who has gone astray from the faith and conscience can not be saved. But the term also shows that they once have been. The conclusion we must go even if it is not expressly said
here. Perhaps thinking of Paul the same as in vv. 19f.
Secondly, Paul is a serious word about the officers that we have to use here. They must not be selected among the new believers. Why was it so dangerous? Jo - that they be inflated "and fall into the condemnation of the devil." They must also be respected by unbelievers that they should not "fall into reproach and the snare of the devil." 1 Tim. 3, 6-7. Here we should note that several other translations translator as in vv. 6 "and fall under the same judgment as the devil" (f. Items. Ungd.overs., NT 75 and Gunnesdotter).
Then it says here that a new convert (which here must mean salvation) you get the same judgment as the devil, ie destruction. Behind Paul's words are perhaps the thought that the devil is a fallen angel who was toppled down because of his arrogance (Jud. 6, Isaiah 14, 12ff).
The new converts can also come to fall into the snare of the devil, v. 7 If someone is caught in his snare, it means that he has been free, it will here say a citizen of God's kingdom. And the devil catches, let him not voluntary. Cf. 2 Tim. 2, 26.
To fall into the condemnation of the devil can not mean that the devil should (active) judge them. It is rather as Bengel remarks here: "The devil does not judge, he is convicted." Therefore, it must mean that they get the same sentence as him. To be inflated in service as a Christian, is arrogance. And it is the arch sin toward God. It was Satan's sin. The following his sin, must also accompany him in his judgment.
To fall into the snare of the devil means to get his power. The bird caught in our snare is absolutely in our power. The devil never shows mercy to those he catches by their wiles.
The burden of this section is primarily: Also a minister, priest, missionary or Christian leader may fall and perish. We have examples in church history.
Hymenaeus and Filetus
Mentioned in 2 Tim. 2, 17f as examples of those who have gone astray from the faith. We do not have definite proof that Hymenaeus here is the same person as in 1 Tim. 1, 20) They have false doctrine of the resurrection and overthrow the faith of some. This also speaks clearly for the possibility of direct apostasy. These two have gone astray from the truth, there is a direct expression of apostasy. And overthrow the faith of the Christians. It also leads away from God's path.
Demas
We know little about this man. He is mentioned in 2 Tim. 4, 10; Kol. 4, 14; Fil. 24 He left Paul because of his love for this world. Tradition says that he fell from the faith. The word for love here is the strong word agape. In 1 Jn. 2, 15 we see that the love of the world can not be reconciled with life in God. The second letter to Timothy is probably the last we have from his hand, and it speaks of a sad ending for the Lord employee. - It is also Lutheran expositors who think this is not referring to spiritual apostasy, but that Demas traveled from Paul of "Fear that share Paul's disorder and heritage part of his renunciation" (Fr. Torm). But the text says nothing about.
This is from my commentaries Galatians 1 6 I marvel that ye are so soon you away from him that called you into the grace of Christ and are moved to a different gospel.
Paul goes to a strong attack against this ministry. It can not be reconciled with the true Christian faith.
It is a "different gospel" that separates those of Jesus Christ. There are other words for the life of the Galatians. God is jealous when it comes to his son's saving work on Calvary and can not stand that someone speaks falsely about Jesus' salvation. It Judaists preached was a diabolical lie. Throughout church history
there have been different variations of "another gospel". Common to all such preaching is that it is not based on the Bible alone, but blends the human logic and thought into.
Another gospel undermines confidence in the word of God, and thus God himself. This leads to idolatry. For man himself takes the place of God. That is why the devil's gospel.
7 However, there is no other gospel; there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Judaists also spoke of the grace of God, but they spoke not only of God's grace. It was something that was added to the grace of God. It was God's grace plus something more. And it was this "something more" that destroyed the proclamation of grace. God's word says namely that "My grace is enough". Lay it as something it is not enough anymore, and pulled something from it is not enough. That grace is enough means that it is sufficient. Judaists preached grace plus works. But it is not. For if God saves us for something we have done, they are the God in debt to us. Yes, Rom. 4.4 states that "Whoever has deeds, him not imputed wage of grace, but of debt."
But how was it that the doctrine of atonement for human sin in Judaists? Yes, it actually heard also. They said it about so that the Vicar of Christ's life and death would replace what was missing in lovoppfyllelsen. Such a gospel could always hear logical. It fits with our usual way of thinking. Would not this drive for good works, I wonder? We do the best we can, and Jesus will take on what is lacking in us - and so are all hurting well. No, it is not so. For it is this that Paul calls "another gospel". A've said this so that it is "the gospel of this world", or to "the religious hops gospel".
8 But though we, even if an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached, let him be accursed!
Galatians is not only a violent confrontation with heresy. It is even more strongly confront heretic. People who preach "another gospel" should not the Christian church have something. Paul is tough on those that require circumcision of Christians. (Gal 5,12).
Bible says about these people:
• they are cursed by God (Gal 1, 8-9)
• they have lost their eternal life (Rev. 22, 18-19)
• it would be better that they were sunk in the depths of the sea with a stone around his neck
(Matt 18.6 Mark 9.42 and Luke 17.1)
It is important that a Christian lives so that life does not obscure the gospel. We do not provide us enemies or so live that we are disliked by most people. But in relation to the false Christianity should not be any attention to what people may think about us. Counterfeit Christianity must be fought no matter how unpopular it makes us.
2 John 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house and neither bid him God!
9 We have said it before and I repeat it now: if anyone preaches any other gospel than that ye have received, let him be accursed!
Listen to what Paul says about such a message: For it to be cursed is to be lost. Do Now: Law can not save a man, it can only curse the sinner. Placing yourself therefore under the law, you place yourself under the curse.
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