Latest is that Torp see conspiracy theories with everyone and everything. Here he writes on his blog: The Christian has a liaison between them and us through Fam. Ingwersen. Absolutely amazing, I know zero things about The Christian and have never heard the couple Ingwersen mentioned this before Torp do it! Yes, yes, conflict Torp to have resolved it is only one place in his own life and heart. And it is also very strange, Torp are against criminalizing gay but me he kriminellere through their OWN POLICE REVIEW OF ME! UNDERSTAND THAT WHOEVER IS, I DO NOT, THIS IS TOO MUCH FOR ME, HE-HE !!!!!!!
It says in Scripture that Noah and his family were saved. Have talked to others about this that has the same understanding as me. That it's not just talking about salvation in word sense as we think it. But it was only Noah and his family who were not defiled with the perverse sins then continued with the fallen angels went down and had intercourse and birth as hybrids of people who were half human and half fallen angels that we ia read in
1 Genesis. 6 1 Now the men began to multiply on the earth, and they had daughters. 2 And the sons of God saw the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took some of them to wives, to them they would have. 3 The LORD said, "My spirit shall not always remain in people, for they are flesh and blood. Their life will be 120 years. "
4 There were giants in the earth in those days, and since too. For the sons of God went to the daughters of men, who bore them children. This is the mighty of old, renown.
Photo of Noah who sacrifice
Therefore, this battle I fight is not my fight, but God's battle. Therefore I want to give biblical guidance to Torp. After all I'm no opponent of him, but his style of life is God's word against and then I'm against it.
Torp seek support and help from the worldly people. This is 100% against God's word.
We as believers must first be able to and ability to endure injustice. Secondly, we will fix it up ourselves occasionally - relative - as long as there is violence and extortion in the picture. Sexual sins as incest and such gross sins is a crime, I mean it is not wrong to engage the authorities.
Here is the interpretation and understanding of the word of God, then to go to the secular authorities is a loss in itself says the apostle Paul.
1 Cor. 01.06. When one of you has a case against another, how can he dare to put it before the unjust, and not for the Saints? 2 Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world? But when ye shall judge the world, why you not good enough to judge the small things? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? Can you not judge in earthly affairs? 4 And when you have such cases, why are you to judge people who do not have confidence in the church? 5 This is a shame for you! Is there not a single sane among you who can sort out the issues between brothers? 6 No, brother goeth to law with brother, and that before judges who are not believers. 7 The fact that you have lawsuits against each other, is in itself a defeat for you. Why suffer ye not rather injustice? Why not rather suffer loss? 8 But ye do wrong, and let others suffer losses - even siblings. 9a Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Torp and unfortunately most Pentecostal Charismatic Christians have never been taught and used to let God's word be crucial for faith, life and learning!
Torp live by their own fleshly lusts and prophecies, not according to God's word. Therefore the strong delusion upon him and other Pentecostal Charismatic Christians. It is only God's word we should be led and guided by, nothing else. Then prophecies and other supplements to the word of God affirming, not what determines how we live our lives and walk as Christians.
Psalm 119 9 Whereby shall a young man cleanse his way? By keeping him according to your word.
11 In my heart I have hidden your word that I might not sin against you.
16 In thy statutes I amuses me, I will not forget thy word.
How Torp and others who experience separation deal with a divorce? After word of God guide! Not after prophecies and fleshly desires and needs! What font to Torp and his "Delilah" which is zero percent godly man who marries a divorced, when one lives in adultery.
18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.
January Aage Torp and Aina Lanton live pr. Bible defensjon in a somboerskap and not in a biblical marriage. Scripture speaks of adulterers and prostitutes are not allowed and will inherit the kingdom of God. The couple's marriage is and remains unclean, they are living in sin and committing adultery. These should we turn away from and not take part in their evil deed.
Prophet Ezra afford the disobedient was clear, it was to distinguish himself from the "marriage" that was signed was "invalid". He pulled them through nine hair and ordered them to stand for living single and raising children without a father that was not the right husband. God has not changed, the scripture says in Hebreerbevet 13:08 Jesus Christ is yesterday and today the same, and forever.
Ezra 10 Now while Ezra was crying on the ground before the house of God and praying, and confessing, there assembled unto him a very great multitude of Israel, both men and women and children; for the people wept bitterly. 2 Shechaniah son of Jehiel, of Olam children, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God by marrying foreign women from the peoples of the land of the wives; but now there is hope for Israel concerning this thing. 3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all these women and their children, as the LORD, and of those that tremble for our God, and let us proceed according to the law! 4 Arise! For it is you who must make this, and we shall help thee; be strong and set to work! 5 Then Ezra got up and made the leading priests and Levites and all Israel, to swear that they should do according to this word; and they swore at it. 6 Then Ezra up from before the house of God into Johanan the son of Eliashib the chamber. And when he was come in, he could neither eat nor drink, so deeply he mourned over the exiles infidelity. 7 Then Jesus sent the proclamation in Judah and Jerusalem for all the exiles that they should gather in Jerusalem, 8 and that whosoever would not come within three days, as the princes and the elders, all his substance should be forfeited, and he even excluded from the exiles church. 9 Then all the men of Judah and Benjamin in Jerusalem within the three days; It was the twentieth day of the ninth month. All the people sat in the house of God, trembling because of this matter and for the great rain. 10 Ezra the priest stood up, and said unto them, Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange wives, and thus has increased in Israel. 11 therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his will! Separate yourselves from the peoples of the land and from the foreign women! 12 Then answered all the people, saying with a loud voice, as thou hast said, so must we do. 13 But the people are many, and it is now the rainy season so we are not able to stand out here and this is a work that can not be done in a day or two; for there are many of us who have sinned in this matter. 14 Therefore let our princes stand before all the people, and let all those in our cities who have taken strange wives, meet at stated times with the elders and judges of each town, until we have turned our God's wrath away from us, and this matter is settled. 15 Only Jonathan the son of Asahel and Jahseja, Tikva son sat in front of this, and Meshullam and Shabbethai the Levite helped them. 16 The exiles did then as I said was, and the priest Ezra and his men who were heads of their families, and all of which were mentioned by name, and they came together on the first day of the tenth month to examine the matter, 17 and they made an end with all the men that had taken strange wives by the first day of the first month. 18 Among the priests the sons of the man who had taken foreign wives; It was, of Joshua, son of Jozadak and his brothers: Maaseiah, Eliezer, Jarib and Gedaliah; 19 they gave their hands that they would put away their wives and sacrifice a ram from the flock as a guilt offering for the sake they had incurred by him. 44 All these had taken strange wives, and some of them had wives by whom they had children.
Nehemiah 13 25 And I contended with them and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair; I made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters to their sons or take some of their daughters as wives for your sons or for yourselves. 26 Was it not with such a Solomon king of Israel transgressed? Yet among many nations was there no king like him, who was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel; nevertheless even him did outlandish women cause to sin. 27 And you should be allowed to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives? (end of quote).
This was a timely and requires a clear response that goes far enough outside of what is being practiced and lived today. Want to set up ten (10) points to a way out of this powerful deceived and misled the couple.
1) There must be a clear confession, repentance behind a repentance shall come out of her whoredoms.
January Aage Torp has probably never confessed that he has sinned and has caused ektespasbrudd? Narrow is the gate, but broad is the road that leads to destruction, Jesus says in the Sermon on the Mount. If one "sees" his sin and transgression or not, one is doomed no matter if one's life is not according to God's word today!
2) They can never under any circumstances share common living and real bed when Torp is divorced and Aina Lanton then "married" a divorced and are under the same sentence as him.
This is not really that extreme. On the mission field as Norwegian and other proselytize practiced when there is polygamy, so the man had a wife and a dependent of the other. The same can Torp do. Living single or be reconciled with his first wife. We need to make it harder than it is!
3) Repentance here must be that they not only confess it as sin. But they begin a new life on their own sides as they live today in adultery by God's word, and they will do as long as they live together.
The way out for both of them is to restart on each edge as they are living in adultery by God's word. When they do the right thing and will have a clear conscience and peace with God. They will be able to reach Heaven country, so they now live as they live in sin and is headed for destruction, both when Inger has started a relationship with a person of another. Scripture says to marry a divorcee is to drive or to live in adultery on several occasions.
Luke 16 18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.
4) Sexual sins also attracts spirits and we must assume that both are animated when they are not occupied by spirits why should they initiated the new step of fasting and prayer.
Sexual sin is destructive, even when the effects are not immediately apparent. It's in the Bible, 1 Corinthians 6:18. "Stay away from fornication! All sin that one does is outside the body. But he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. "What constitutes often the first step towards sexual sins? It's in the Bible, Matthew 5.28. "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Bible forbids sexual relations with estranged which is the same as running a form of prostitution. It's in the Bible, 1 Corinthians 6,15.16. "Know ye not that your bodies are members of Christ? Will you then take the members of Christ and make them a prostitute? It must not happen! Know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body with her? It is said, "The two will become one flesh. '"
This has also undergone over time, so needed here are some that go in and fight the battle with them. It is just as when someone has put on for mane kilograms. So it takes time to get rid of them. In the same way it is here. They are so strong and ugly captured by evil spirits as the two have become. Will they become more and more occupied by them until they repent and break up. Deliverance here is undoubtedly something that will not happen in minutes or seconds. They need to come back to God. And get into a life of healing, restoration and together with other believers to be free. So also says the word of God that man is such damaged by such mistakes and sin, that it will take time to be free - free indeed! We have not only to do with the flesh here, but also the Spirit when Torp has been captured and animated by evil spirits. Just like Todd Bentley, Jan Hanvold and others re-married as believers.
5) They need the help of other believers in the beginning in a special way.
Now Aina Lanton and Jan Aage Torp come over to Satan's territory with their lives as all other believers are doing if they marry again while the first spouse is still living or marry a divorcee. The preachers and pastors do it twice as bad as they are a model and example to the other believers. Should Aina divorce in January or the opposite, it is a thing that is for sure. They need help, support and prayers to go to such a step, there is no doubt.
6) It would be natural that they had also sought the advice of Attorney and otherwise different social institutions to distribute the kids and stay.
We are not of this world as believers, but we are in this world. As long as we are here to "accommodate" we must direct us by society and the regulation is there. Therefore, it would be also quite natural that they had sought advice and guidance from Attorney, municipality and school for them to arrange that they can begin the o function on each edge, even if they have children.
7) When they have inflicted on themselves and the kids so much pain I would say that both should live single lifetime Inger Hanvold really can get married when marriage with Jan Hanvold never been a valid marriage within its God.
They have both been responsible for many thousands have been cheated and deceived, not least through the lifestyle they had. Therefore, it is something to not only repent and begin again. But to "zone" for their iniquity, and do the right thing for himself afterwards. Therefore, I would not advise any of them really a new relationship albeit Inger Hanvold have a "right" to marry again when she really only been living with Jan Hanvold, not biblical marriage. Scripture clearly teaches that Hanvold should have lived alone or reconciled with his first wife and rightly, no. 1 in the series:
1 Cor. 7 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate herself from her husband; 11 but divorced him when she abide, being unmarried or be reconciled herself with her husband - and that a man should not put away his wife.
8) Torp who are male has an extra responsibility. Even after repentance he is never fit to stand on a soapbox when he has made himself so right. This in my opinion.
King Uzziah was a leper rest of his life, all must beware of falling into such a situation.
9) Jan Aage Torp has an additional responsibility Heg when he is both man and preacher. He is the one who is in charge of it all.
From my bible comment Philip Wiper letter 3 17 Have me as a role model, you too, and look at those who follow the example we have given you. Paul idol was Christ. But there is something to have a role model, but something else to live up to it. Paul managed it with his decision and by the Spirit. Had Paul continued to follow the regulations and arrangements had led into hatred, intolerance and party mind. But Jesus' love had melted his heart after he met his Savior on his way to Damascus (Ap.gj.9.). Jesus' love had made Paul a successor and could also have him role model.
18 I have said it often and have to say it again with tears that there are many who live as enemies of the cross of Christ. It's a pain to see that other believers fall short, happy time after time. We are one body, when one member suffers and feels pain rubs off on everyone else. Psalm 119 158 I look with disgust at the faithless, do not keep your word. It is unfortunately still "Judas" that goes among the believers, who do not have nuptial garment on. But we must distinguish between misleading and being misled. And between cheaters and those that fail.
19 They end in destruction, they have the stomach to god and take pride in it which is a shame for them, and they are only concerned with earthly things. It shows, unfortunately, time and time again that there is too many people take so lightly on everything. God is rich enough for all but one must open up and let him in. After graduation and works of the flesh will take root even in the believer's heart and mind. When can and will be lost if one does not repent again (Ezekiel 33).
20 But we have our citizenship is in heaven, from whence we the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior. We are pilgrims here, the heavenly promised land awaits. We have a civil right down here, but it is temporary and not our true citizenship. It is the new Jerusalem in heaven we have weather commonwealth. We are waiting for Jesus, but he is waiting for God the Father to say to the Son; go get them. What a day it must be.
21 He will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like the body of His glorious truth. Because he has the power to subjugate all. After the fall came death, disease and the ephemerality into. It happened not just something our intellectual life was darkened and our minds were unenlightened spiritual truths. Although our bodies are not lagged longer to live forever as God's mind with us. Therefore, we get a brand new body that we will carry forever, a new. For God nothing is impossible. He who has created everything and sustains everything shall also one day transform everything for his own pleasure and for our good (end of quote).
10) There is nothing more important than anything, it is to reach heaven someday, the new Jerusalem.
What lies at the core of it all is that we all will one day reach the New Jerusalem and join and found worthy. We read of Him who came to the wedding without the wedding garment on in Matthew 22 2 The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son. 3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding; but they would not come. 4 Again he sent other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and fatted cattle are killed, and all things are ready; came to the wedding! 5 But they made light of it and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise; 6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7 The king was angry, and sent his armies out to destroy those murderers and set their city on fire. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy; 9 Go ye therefore into the parting and to the marriage as many as you can find! 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to look at them at the table, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment. 12 And he said unto him, My Friend! how did you come in here and do not have a wedding garment? But he was silent. 13 Then the king said to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into outer darkness! There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Jesus asks Aina Lanton and Jan Aage Torp and all others who have been divorced and married as believers or married to a divorced as a Christian following: "My friend! how did you come in here and do not have a wedding garment? '. It helps nothing to be "approved" by Christian Norway when one does not have a wedding garment? That such people have come forward testify that we live in my apostasy and Laodicea times here in our beloved Norway!
Final Comment: I've gone back the following question: You write about Pastor Jan Aage Torp and his new flame. Agree with you that they are not biblically married, but what do you think the two would do and those who support them, what they should do once they have been misled and deceived? If the answer to everything but this: "What do you mean the two should do and those who support them?". Anyone who supports Oslokirken and similar product businesses share in their sin and spiritual powers will begin to work on the individual. We will not even allow such evil and sin stressed people like Jan Aage and Aina even pray for us as their spirit of Satan will be "transferred" to it and those who come in contact with them. I would not matter at all costs let such persons as above prayed and laid their hands on me. Won such evil spirit would not for all the world's money, power or recognition!
1 Timothy 5:22 Do not be quick to lay hands on any man; neither be partaker of other men's sins; keep thyself pure!
Some excerpts from an article I wrote a few years ago: http://janchristensen.net/artiklerhoved.php?side=er-you-accomplice
Are you an accomplice?
2 Jn. b. 9 He who does not adhere to the teachings of Christ, but goes beyond it, does not have fellowship with God. Anyone who adhere to the teachings, he has fellowship with the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, so please do not receive him into their home, and greet him heartily. 11 For he who greets him is an accomplice in his evil deeds.
James 3 1 My brethren! Not many of you should become teachers, for you know that we will be much stricter judgment.
Luke 17 1 And he said to his disciples: "It is inevitable that offenses come, but woe to him through whom they come! 2 It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone around his neck, than that he should offend one of these little ones. 3a Beware!
It amazes me how uninformed people of faith are about these things. That we are in a relationship with all other believers we want it or not. We are like a body and belong to each other. And when a limb is not living in line with the head - which is Christ - so it rubs off on everyone else. When a limb is obedient, then the consequence is that it also affects the other. This has nothing to do with anything except that we are in direct life connection with each other because we have the same life and the same Spirit. And the same Saviour, Lord and Father. All this binds us together as believers in spite of divisions and disagreements. This is a fact and a reality.
Those preachers and are accountable to others, this is even stronger. I proclaim that has an additional responsibility, this also applies to everyone else.
When preachers set up in conjunction with other preachers who live in sin or doing blatant heresy, then we become complicit.
Yes, it is so severe in some cases that Jesus said that it had been better received a millstone around his neck and been thrown around the neck and then had just destroyed itself. But here one destroys not only for themselves but also for others. We lead others to perdition, into disability and into the delusion of self-influence and preach to others. It says in Rom. 10 17 that faith comes by hearing. This applies not only religion but also heresy and unbelief also comes by hearing, have you thought of that? Or are you one of those who accept everything and not have their own opinions and attitudes? Everything is not of God if it is not in accordance with God's word. It is only that which corresponds to the word of God, we must align ourselves. Everything else should we shun that "plague" that will lead us down from Christ and the simple fidelity to him!
Here's an explanation of why the priest collar around the neck as figuratively have much going for it: Enno today are priests often painted with the old priest collar. But what was the idea behind this creation under doctor? One of the explanations is that the collar should remind priest millstone. Not the bottom of the mill in the village, but the stone that Jesus spoke about "The top attraction at least one of these little ones which believe in me, he was better lit with getting a millstone hanged about his neck and sunk in the depths of the deep." It would therefore be better to have a millstone about the neck than to cause one who believes in Jesus, on the wild roads. So serious is the lead man another way than what God says.
Here is the "best" article I've written about Torp that I would go as far to say is a message from the Lord:
Pastor and Apostle Jan Åge Torp in Oslo Church and all other gjengiftede as a Christian and still preachers of our time King Uzziah was a leper!
The church at Ephesus heard Jesus praised when they revealed such false apostles as Jan Hanvold, Jan Aage Torp m. Several. (Leprosy in scripture is a type of sin. Then a GT had role models, so it is in the New Testament admonition appropriate to "replace" the word leprosy of sin).
Joh. Revelation. 2 2 I know thy works, and thy labor, and thy patience, and that you can not tolerate evil; you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and hast found them liars; 3 and you have perseverance and have much to bear for my name's sake and have not grown weary.
It is strange that the false apostles call themselves apostles for both today and 2000 years ago, this is probably not a coincidence but the same demons who served in the false apostles in days of old still works today. It makes me think of what happened during AA Allen's meetings in the United States when he was casting out demons by religious and Christian name during a meeting. It was if I remember correctly it was with a person who said that he had the same demons as Saul who later became Paul. The person said he had a legion that is to say approximately 6000 demons. I wonder how many people work today among the false apostles, it is not getting. Never be fooled by big smiles and eloquence, was there anything that could talk before he was saved, as was Paul.
http://blog.janchristensen.net/2011/08/nr-162-why-the-old-preachers-ha.html
2 Chron. 26 1 And all the people of Judah took Uzziah, and did, who was sixteen years old, the king instead of his father Amaziah. 2 He did Elot a real city and won it to Judah, after that the king had lain to rest with his fathers. 3 Uzziah was sixteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned two and fifty years in Jerusalem; His mother's name was Jecholiah from Jerusalem. 4 He did what was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that his father Amaziah had done. 5 And he sought God in the days of Zechariah, who had understanding in the visions of God; and as long as he sought the LORD, God made him to prosper. 6 And he went forth and warred against the Philistines, and broke down the wall of Gath, and the wall of Jabneh; and built cities about Ashdod, and among the Philistines. 7 And God helped him against the Philistines, and against the Arabians that dwelt in Gur-baal, and Mehunims. 8 And the Ammonites gave gifts to Uzziah: and his name spread even to Egypt; for he strengthened himself exceedingly. 9 Uzziah built towers in Jerusalem at the Corner Gate and at the Valley Gate and at the angle, thus making these and fortified. / 10 He built towers in the desert, and digged many wells: for he had much cattle, both in the lowlands and in the plains: husbandmen also, and he and vine dressers in the mountains, and in Carmel; for he at heart. 11 Uzziah had an army of fighting men, that went out to war by bands, signed and numbered by the state printer Jehiel and supervision Maaseiah the ruler, under the hand of Hananiah, one of the king's captains. 12 Two thousand and six hundred was the whole number of the mighty men who were family heads, 13 And under their hand was an army, three hundred thousand and seven thousand and five hundred, that made war with mighty power, to help the king against the enemy. 14 This whole army Uzziah prepared with shields and spears, and helmets, and coats of mail, and bows, and slings to cast stones. 15 In Jerusalem he made machines of war aligned, which might be on the towers and bulwarks to shoot arrows and great stones. And his name spread far abroad; for he was marvelously helped, till he was strong. 16 But when he was strong, he was the pride of his heart, that he transgressed; and he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense. 17 Azariah the priest went in after him, and with him fourscore priests of the LORD, brave men. 18 And they rose up against Uzziah the king and said to him: It is not for you, Uzziah, to burn incense unto the LORD, but to the priests the sons of Aaron, that are consecrated to it. Go out of the sanctuary; For you have been disobedient, and it becomes thee not to the glory of the Lord God. 19 Then Uzziah was wroth. He held a censer in his hand and tried just about to burn incense; and while he was wroth with the priests, the leprosy in his forehead, as he stood before the priests in the house of the Lord at the altar of incense. 20 And Azariah the chief priest and all the priests, looked upon him, behold, he was leprous in his forehead. They thrust him out from thence; and himself hasted also to go out, because the LORD had smitten him. 21 Uzziah the king was a leper to the day of his death, and dwelt in a several house, being a leper, for he was excluded from the house. His son Jotham the king's house, judging the people. 22 Now the rest of the acts of Uzziah, both in his first and in his later days, the prophet Isaiah the son of Amoz, written op. / 23 And Uzziah lay to rest with his fathers, and they buried him with his fathers in the burial place of the kings, for they said, He is a leper. And Jotham his son reigned in his stead.
Espen Ottosen: should resign as pastor
One of the very few in Christendom who have dared to question both with Pastor Torp's work and personal life is Espen Ottosen, information manager of Norwegian Lutheran Mission. In several posts on our land value debate justifies why he Torp should no longer serve as pastor:
I have stated on twitter that I find it regrettable that Jan-Aage Torp not stop as pastor. The reason is not only the story as his son stands out in the current issue of A Magazine. My reason is more holistic. Here are some words.
Jan-Aage Torp is pastor. Also the term apostle is used for His service. Whatever it is natural to emphasize what Paul should require of an overseer. Here are some key verses from 1 Timothy 3.2 to 7:
"Now the overseer must be above reproach, husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, dignified, hospitable, able to teach, not given to wine, not violent but gentle, not contentious or lover of money. He must manage his household well and having children in subjection with all chastity. Whoever does not know how to rule his own house, how can he take care of God's church? He must not be a recent convert, lest he become bloated and fall under the condemnation of the devil. He must have good testimony from those who are outside, lest he be ashamed and be caught in the snare of the devil. "
These words present great ideals. So let me first clarify that I (obviously) do not believe that a Christian leader should be perfect. We are all sinners. The Bible says thankfully much that God can also use weak and erring people. Moreover, I believe that the words of Paul represents a measure of relevance and importance. We have no right to cancel the meaning of these words because no one is infallible. A Christian leader is dependent on trust. Therefore there must be a connection between theory and practice.
Regarding Jan-Aage Torp, I believe that he has weakened their confidence in a fundamental way, particularly in recent years. I think it's uncomfortable to argue. But I actually think it's even harder to be silent - for through his behavior, he has discredited the whole Christian church in Norway.
The last example comes the story that his son now says. It is simply appalling, even if I take into account that the media does not give a very balanced presentation, although Torp has been unable to provide a response. Many Christian leaders have experienced that their children have moved away from the faith. Some would argue that this in itself disqualify a pastor. I do not think so. Also Pastor children must be allowed to choose their own faith. But the story Anders Torp is very special, also because his son today has lost all contact with his father. It undermines confidence in the course Torp.
Even more serious is this page Torp today admits that the theology he made sure that his son was faced with was unhealthy. To a certain extent it is good that Torp self-criticism. The problem is that there are limits to how many times a person can greatly regret their miscalculations - and still retain confidence. Torp prophesied bloodshed during the Olympic Games in Athens, which he later regretted. In today's articles sorry he both contact with the Danish "Father's house" and with "åndeutdrivere" from Zambia. It is then reason to ask whether Torp has shown sufficient spiritual judgment. I think not. In addition, I think a lot of the material contained on the websites Oslokirken and blog of Jan-Aage Torp Torp still shows that markets a radical charismatic. It is very problematic.
A final issue is that Jan-Aage Torp married again. This is a difficult point to comment - it relates to the privacy of Torp. At the same time, I think it's unreasonable to think that all topics concerning marital status shall be stamped as irrelevant. Paul emphasizes After all these questions in 1 Timothy.
There are probably well aware that my basic attitude is that remarriage is wrong. This justifies I with Matt from 19.3 to 10 and some other Bible verses. At the same time, I think the question is difficult. Many conservative Christians believe remarriage in certain situations may be right. I respect that. But I do think that certain Christian leaders should refrain from remarriage - partly because Paul writes that a leader must be "husband of one wife."
Finally the text from 1 Timothy 3, Paul writes that a bishop "have good testimony from them that are without." It must of course not be construed as a Christian leader must be popular and loved. On the contrary, it says a lot in the Bible that those who preach the word of God true and straight, must be prepared for the opposition, persecution and slander. Paul also believes therefore that it matters how Christian leaders are perceived by people outside the church. Also at this point I believe Torp fall short. He does not give a good testimony by marrying pretty quickly after the divorce with a woman who is more than twenty years younger than himself.
This is a difficult issue. I find it difficult to be balanced, accurate and respectful (opposite Jan-Aage Torp, which undoubtedly is in a very difficult situation and deserve care and intercession). But here was a brief explanation that I mean after all, Pastor Torp should quit as pastor. (end of quote). http://blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-295-information leader-in-norsk.html
I ran out today Pastor Jan Aage Torp to be abused by him, but I live well with. He believed bl. a I was unkind and nasty when I could speak like that about him and evangelist Emanuel Minos.
Emanuel Minos a gateway for demons
When Emanuel Minos repeatedly against his better judgment will open up for these wolves in sheep's clothing as Jan Aage Torp, Jan Hanvold and other gjengiftede preachers, he is a gateway for demons. The demons did not even come up, but they have their minions, those who live in rebellion to God's word and God's will.
King Uzziah
Uzziah was 16 years old when he became king - and he was king for 52 years. Here we meet a godly man who sought God and did what was right in the sight of the Lord. He was raised in a "Christian home" and took good care of their childhood and the legacy of the home. The people loved Uzziah, because no one had done so much good for Israel since King Solomon.
King Uzziah had thus a very good start to his race. He had a good "input". But how was the end of his journey? It was the end we should heed. Yes, when Uzziah was at its most powerful, something happens.
Why did Uzziah?
1) Uzziah began to exalt themselves. He forgot that real progress has more to do with who we are than what we do. He forgot that it was God who had helped him the power and the glory which he had now achieved.
2) He had not taken the time to build character in their lives. His character was in no way compared to what he had done. It is important to build a strong character in God before you step out in service to God. If not then it will sooner or later be a character flaw that is visible to all ...
3) The pride came into his life. Pride always comes before a fall. Uzziah could not stand success. But what is pride?
- Pride is the "mother of all sin" (Lester Sumrall)
- Pride is a spiritual cancer. It eats up the possibility that the love and the fruit of the Spirit can flow.
- Pride is selfish. It has always ego in the center. ("I have the right ...")
- Pride is arrogance. It is to exalt themselves. One expects privileges, one wants to be noticed and become popular.
- Pride is anger. One can not bear reproof, but reacts with anger.
In verse 19 we see that Uzziah react with anger - typical pride ...
We all need someone corrects us / exhorts us. Ask yourself: How do I receive admonition and correction from other people? The way you accept correction, will determine how you end your run!
Uzziah was a leper, and he remained a leper life. He was first called king, but ended up being known as leprosy. It was no longer speaking about what he did in the beginning. What matters is how you finish the race!
This man had ascended the throne at the age of sixteen, destined to be one of the greatest kings of Judah. He received advice from the prophet Zechariah. He received a vision from the Lord. He was mightily blessed by God.
The Bible says that Uzziah sought the Lord - and God made him prosper and be strong, "God helped him ...." (2 Chronicles 26: 7). ".... His name spread far and wide, for he was marvelously helped, till he was strong." (verse 15).
Besides Solomon, Uzziah had the best reputation of all the kings of Judah. He was anointed by God. He initiated the revival of the country, tore down the idols and walking according to God's word. When this brave king drove his carriage through the streets he was shown honor and respect. He received gifts and tributes from around the world.
However, Scripture says: ".... when he was strong, he was the pride of his heart, unto their own destruction., He transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense." (verse 16).
Pride overcame this man. He wanted to become a priest as well as king! In disobedience Uzziah entered the temple and began waving incense before the altar. He received a rebuke for this - and when he pointed an angry finger in response, his hand immediately began to fade. It suddenly became a leper. Uzziah had to be thrown out of the temple!
Oh, what a shame! One of the biggest, richest kings in Judah's history have now isolated. He was taken to a house where he spent the rest of his days as a leper: "Uzziah the king was a leper unto the day of his death. He lived in a house for himself as a leper, for he was excluded from the house ... . "(2 Chron. 26:21).
Uzziah died in isolation - cut off from any blessing from God!
When this once-great man died, amounts have gathered around him. His death would have been an honor to God's name. Instead, he died an almost unknown man, his body eaten by leprosy. Uzziah missed his destiny!
Pastor and Apostle Jan Åge Torp in Oslo Church and all other gjengiftede as a Christian and still preachers of our time King Uzziah was a leper!
God's word is very clear, anyone gjengiftede that believers should not be pastors or apostles as Jan Aage Torp, Jan Hanvold and many of them are. Had they put on the last bench and been like him we read in Luke gospel should I set the time, then it would be a matter between him and God.
Luke 18 9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed God! I thank thee that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all my income. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God! be merciful to me a sinner! 14 I tell you, this man went down justified to his house rather than the other; For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased, and he humbles himself shall be exalted.
But here one exalts himself both to the Apostles, Pastors, TV-founders and I do not know what. Pride and arrogance is. They make themselves so humble and so innocent, if given flesh and willingness to enter into the new life, so they do whatever. False humility Bible calls this, not for anything else.
King Uzziah was a leper
King Uzziah was a leper, and these people are already lepers and will spread his leprosy wherever they come, therefore Scripture says that we can not even be pointed in conjunction with these.
1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you, was that I should not have intercourse with any man that is called a brother and a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or robber, so I do not even eat with him.
We will in no way take part in their evil deed, if we do it we are complicit. At Emanuel Minos and many others support the lepers people who are spiritually wolves in sheep's clothing, I think that's bad! Yes direct sickening and disgusting.
What is the solution?
The solution is simple. Distances you from those who do not live like the word says. And stick to those who live and learn right. This is and remains the solution. We all need God's grace when we all fall short, but there are still rules in the Word of God and in the spiritual life of Jesus and the church that we must and will relate to.
Remarriage for preachers makes them impossible to service as Pastor and teacher
When we read the Pastoral epistles that Paul teaches on this and other sites it is clear that gjengiftede preachers believers are unfit for duty. Just like Kon Uzziah was unfit to perform the service that the Levites would do is anyone who chooses to remarry after a breakup. This is not what I or you think, but spiritual truths and this is also a spiritual law. Allows we gjengiftede preachers, we can just put the door wide open for Satan. Have we given his little finger as he also takes the whole hand, you bet!
Ezra fik all gjengiftede stand - it is the solution now also
Ezra 10 10 Ezra the priest stood up and said to them, Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange wives, and thus has increased in Israel. 11 therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his will! Separate yourselves from the peoples of the land and from the foreign women! 12 Then answered all the people, saying with a loud voice, as thou hast said, so must we do. 13 But the people are many, and it is now the rainy season so we are not able to stand out here and this is a work that can not be done in a day or two; for there are many of us who have sinned in this matter. 14 Therefore let our princes stand before all the people, and let all those in our cities who have taken strange wives, meet at stated times with the elders and judges of each town, until we have turned our God's wrath away from us, and this matter is settled. 15 Only Jonathan the son of Asahel and Jahseja, Tikva son sat in front of this, and Meshullam and Shabbethai the Levite helped them. 16 The exiles did then as I said was, and the priest Ezra and his men who were heads of their families, and all of which were mentioned by name, and they came together on the first day of the tenth month to examine the matter, 17 and they made an end with all the men that had taken strange wives by the first day of the first month. 18 Among the priests the sons of the man who had taken foreign wives; It was, of Joshua, son of Jozadak and his brothers: Maaseiah, Eliezer, Jarib and Gedaliah; 19 they gave their hands that they would put away their wives and sacrifice a ram from the flock as a guilt offering for the sake they had incurred by him.
Notice the wording of v. 19, "for the sake they had incurred by him."
The guilt they had incurred by themselves, that's exactly what Pastor Jan Aage Torp. Pastor Jan Hanvold and all others who are separated as a believer and then afterwards as a believer marry. They incur guilt yourself and anyone else who gets in their vicinity and who stands with them in any way. They apply themselves guilt and being involved with them in their evil deeds, as it is by what God's Word teaches. To marry after a breakup, it is ruling out if you wish and will be an apostle, prophet or indeed a trusted servant of the Lord or the servant.
James 3 1 My brethren! not many of you become teachers, seeing ye know that we shall receive greater judgment heavier!
2 Jn. b. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house, neither bid him God! 11 for the one who bid him welcome, the accomplice of his evil deeds.
Luke 16 18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.
1 Cor. 7 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate herself from her husband; 11 but divorced him when she abide, being unmarried or be reconciled herself with her husband - and that a man should not put away his wife.
1 Tim. 5 8 But if any provide not for his own, and most of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an infidel.
Efes. 5 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
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http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-765-is-jan-kare-christensen-new-hans.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/08/no-738-brre-knudsens-death-but-he-was.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-763-for-early-christians-it-was.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-763-pastor-torp-will-report-me.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-762-pastor-jan-aage-torp-provided-me.html
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