I am very careful who I let pray for me and my needs. I just want the people who live pure and holy to pray for me. Such as this should and should all believers have, which Scripture teaches.
Jan Hanvold and Vision Norway is like a one-eyed bandit. They are open for "Jesus" with one half while the other half is the open for Satan and his demons. And not to mention the money to the people they manage to embrace and to con into it.
Photo by Jan Hanvold is and remains a false prophet
A mix cards and will end in spiritual darkness and void.
I know how this will end, therefore I warn in advance. The only thing that will bring, is that as an invite into their lives to pray for and with, live pure and holy.
Jan Hanvold and most of Vision Norway is busy getting married as Christians, they are the unholy and carnal influence. You want those who serve Satan and his own flesh, which is infiltrated and controlled by his flesh and demonic and seductive spirits shall pray for you? This will end in disaster for you sooner or later!
Let me explain what prayer is.
Hanvold and those on the Vision Norway allows the use of impure spirits through that they live a carnal life of profanities. This crude is "transferred" to others including through contact and prayer, which the Bible warns against.
Jan Hanvold and his associate one as a medium to rain.
Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold I see that are not Christians, but as spiritualists. And then you expect to get in contact with them, is exactly the same fruits and experience it is to get in touch with psychics or a medium. It is only to study this and it is the same one can expect will happen to the person or persons who attend Vision Norway as a spiritualist center or medium. It's basically the same thing no matter how much a profess the name of Jesus when one does not follow his teachings. Scripture says that no one can say Jesus is Lord except by to also follow his teachings. Wherefore Jesus also, that he who loves me, he symmetry in my statutes, or my words.
Hanvold and those on the Vision Norway is a medium of Satan and a haunt for the legions of demons. Having such people to pray for themselves bound with danger. No way I wanted him to come near me, much less asked for me. Those who turn to Vision Norway, do not realize that they are playing with fire, perhaps not until it's too late?
Hanvold and those on the Vision Norway is that sorcerers in the name of Jesus, dangerous and seduced!
The best thing is to stay as far away from him as possible, and of course, never let such a request for them!
1 Timothy 5:22 Do not be quick to lay hands on any man; neither be partaker of other men's sins; keep thyself pure!
Escape for thy life is your message to those who allow themselves to become involved in Vision Norway.
What happens when those who live in filth pray for you.
They are themselves controlled by Satan. What happens is that the disease be happy to leave you somewhere, so it looks like something positive happens, the diver up several other places. Certainly the people that those asking for and is in contact with. So that here is the wife of Minos is dripping. All because of that Minos opens up the evil spirits through the demon-possessed Hanvold.
Luke 11 24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. 25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. 26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state is worse than the man first.
Everyone who comes in contact with Vision Norway and Hanvold. Want to experience more or less to be seven times worse than it was with them when they seek contact with such a sorcerer and enchanter who Hanvold and Vision Norway is. It's about the likes of him several places in the word of God. Among other here:
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and impostors will go from to worse; deceiving and being deceived.
What does it mean to Kverve sight?
Here is a glossary: impostors people are those who get people to shy away from a good and Christian way and thinking.
King James reads: seducers. It means to deceive.
Hanvold trying to appear to be something he is not. The reality about Hanvold is that he is a false prophet and a magician who Barjesus or Elymas.
Acts 13 6 And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew named Barjesus, 7 who was with the proconsul Sergius Paulus, a prudent man. This called Barnabas and Saul to him, and asked to hear the word of God. 8 But Elymas the sorcerer for so his name is interpreted withstood them, seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. 9 Then Saul, who also is called Paul, filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, saying, 10 O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, enemy of all righteousness! will you not cease to pervert the right ways? 11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, and for a time not seeing the sun. And immediately there fell mist and darkness came over him, and he went about seeking for a man who could lead him by the hand.
For the apostle Paul met some magicians, we must also expect to face today. There, unfortunately those that allow Vision Norway pray for themselves, they are blinded and must bear the cost of it. Just as those who follow them receive seven evils worse than him over and out. This will end up.
We must have a separation between ourselves and those who are ruled by their flesh and seducing spirits teaches the word of God.
2 Cor. 6 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what Samlaget hath righteousness with unrighteousness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 And what concord between Christ and Belial, or what portion and part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement is there between the temple of God with idols? We are the temple of the living God, as God hath said, I will live among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them and be ye separate from them, says the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord, the Almighty. 07.01. Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God!
Surely it well with prayers for family revival. But here one must ask, is this an excuse to bring people close to them for the second, to deceive them and flea them for money and everything else. This is Jan Hanvold and Vision Norway is unfortunately an example. Therefore, stay away from Jan Hanvold and Vision Norway. And seek handling and prayers from people who live and teach in accordance with the scriptures, the word of God. We Smyrna Oslo is a very good option in this regard.
Includes Geir Lie, which also describes a bit about casting out demons, but here he also built on the positive side. I believe in praying for people, and also even to be prayed for. But those who may be praying for me, and to pray for others, to be holy and God consecrated people.
See here: Karismatikkens demons
Fan passionate lös in Norway, with Honoma och hela his anhang. Kalla them vad nine wild, called them demons, onda andar, illasinnade powers smådjävlar - they find där. They take människan in besittning till Body and Soul, crawls inunder skin och sneaks in under hjärterötterna.1
And so began the Swedish magazine Allers's interview with two media profile karismatikerprester 1978 This was also the same year that the American movie Exorcist was shown on Norwegian cinemas. Along with the so-called Os case - where a 24 year old female student of one of the Home Mission Company Secretaries land was attempted freed from demonic åndsmakter2 - Exorcist was the subject of a nationwide debate on demoni and deliverance. "It Visad sig att one anmärkningsvärt large numbers norska Prasten inte bara [think] the presence of evil andar without också active [contribute] to fördrivningen of them," wrote the Swedish magazine. A further contribution to the debate was the tv program on the fly on January 19 of that year, where a former state church pastor talked about their personal experiences with åndsutfrielse.3
Some charismatic Christians are still concerned about the phenomenon. As recently as November 2004 surged 500 karismatikertroende a weekend seminar held in the Lutheran Grand Hall of Oslo. The main speaker told here about a young girl with a fatal kidney disease that could be cured (through prayer) before a demon was driven out of her. The daemon, in turn, could not run out before the young girl had forgiven her mother, whom she otherwise knew nothing about, since she was placed for adoption as a baby. The main speaker, however, felt there and then suffering a god open-baring that her biological mother at age 16 had caused the girl was conceived in sexual sin. This in turn had caused the young girl (who apparently intuitively knew this) had an unforgiving attitude toward the mother. To be delivered from the demon and physically healed, she had to first forgive her. She did so, according to the keynote speaker, and was allegedly miraculously healed.
I myself have a background in similar environments, and will partly build on their experience and partly on literature studies in this article.
Don Basham and Derek Prince
Typical of the charismatic revival in the 1970s was that it did not form separate communities, but tried to seem "spiritual renewal" within their respective communities. Many came nonetheless together for informal community gatherings outside their own faith community organized, and where the common denominator of the audience was that they had either experienced or actively longed charismatic spiritual experiences in their own lives. Within some of these community groups were concerned they both "inner healing" and deliverance from spirit-powers. The American karismatiker leader Don Bashams (1926-1989) book Deliver us from Evil, 4 or rather this book Danish translation, 5 had some influence in Norwegian karismatikersammenhenger. Here Basham told how he was freed from a "demon of fear" that allegedly had come in when he was a 8.9-year-old was lured to the cinema to see a vampire movie:
And before I could fornægte [fear] or the command that come ud, begyndelse "the one" that bevæge himself. At first I felt nothing in the direction af Rødder tear himself away from the bottom af the back, in the NetOp Rygh vertebrae, where fornæmmelserne and smerterne sad. So bevægede things stone him with ind in between floors, rolling, vibrating and may cause krampetrækninger. I Maerk "it" ascend reduction through the chest and ind in svælget, shocking me. I bøjede me now over the edge of the bed and begyndelse that throw up a ækel gasping krampetrækning.6
The reason for Bashams experience was that he was lying in bed and listened to a teaching tape by the British preacher Derek Prince (1915-2003):
Any effort or any chok, which means, what we could cold, one Breche in a person's normal forsvarsværker, donor demons one chance. Take for example frygt.7
Prince is here not interesting solely by virtue of its influence on Basham, but also because his preaching about demons got an even bigger footprint in Norwegian karismatikersammenhenger than Bashams book fikk.8 Through imprint "Pay It Forward" was uber cassette teaching of Prince translated Swedish and Norwegian and published in booklet form. Portions of this teaching was related to "demonology". In one of the lessons Prince claimed that about 80% of all Christians need spiritual-utfrielse.9 He further claimed that demons are bound to the earth, that they lack the body and preferably seeking a human body to inhabit. Way to drive them out, especially if they have taken up residence in oneself, is to take them out of breath:
How? Begin exhaling, spirit out! It may be the first breath is a common breath, maybe the second and third too. But eventually begin something other than a normal breath coming out. This is your enemy! 10
"When the demons come out, followed those of a variety of manifestations," continued the Prince, "Sometimes you can hardly notice it, maybe just as a sigh or a small yawn." Other times, according to Prince, was the manifestation a sob , hosting, a scream or maybe a groan or howl. "If you suppress the scream, when it comes to your lips" - again according to Prince - "that suppresses the demons."
On one occasion described the Prince expulsion of an American evangelist in an unhealthy way tied to his mother: "I prayed for the man and put his hands on his shaft, and soon I had to run after the trash. I arrived just in time, and he spent the following 20 minutes of throwing up lots of mucous, liquid mass. "11
The next day, when the two talked on the phone, the evangelist exclaimed, "Is not it strange? Yesterday you and I ate lunch together, but what I threw up, there was no trace of chicken or something else of what I had eaten. What I threw up, did not come from my stomach. "Evangelist statement launched a reflection process at Prince, and he came to the following:
I've seen lots of mucus, which people have thrown up once they have been solved, and in my point of view it is not the demons themselves, but the demons have lived in the interior of the body. When the demon flies, the residence must follow. Sometimes people continue with this cleansing process physically in 3-4 days or a whole week. They just throw up and throw up, and I will give the advice: "Do not stop until you are done with it." It is not the demon you throw up, but it has built inside the body to live. Demon itself is invisible.
Princes preaching has been criticized in part because "demons" have such a prominent place. Not only it is claimed that hundreds of spirit-powers can inhabit a single man, you seem Yet the forever to go in suspense as to whether it would still be more left in there. "I do not know for sure if any of you are completely free. I can not give myself any proof either, "admitted 12 Prince decades after he began his selvutfrielse.
Demons in the religious movement
By "religious movement" I mean here a charismatic grassroots movement with ideological focus on faith activation as a tool for primary healing by prayer. In these environments has often ironized of charismatic "demo environments" where you come to meetings equipped with "spy-plastic bags." Not that too within their own environment has had leaders who claim to have made the demo preaching and practical åndsutfrielse their personal specialty. The late Lester Sumrall came in his preaching constantly returned to the Filipino woman Clarita Villanueva who in 1953 reportedly experienced åndsutfrielse through him, with the result that the evil spirits who had bitten her all over, immediately stopped his destructive activities.
Also, Kenneth E. Hagin (the movement's alleged founder) devoted to the phenomenon of relatively large space, though he dimmed the importance of physical "manifestations" as proof that spiritual forces were driven ut.13 Directly inspired by compatriot Finis Jennings Dake, he presented controversial views regarding Satan's fall the angelic realm and the fate of Earth prior to the first human tilblivelse.14 When demons according to Hagin was spiritual beings, they needed a physical body to express itself through here on jorden.15 As Prince Hagin distinguished between spiritual obsession (where totality "spirit, soul and body" was controlled by the spirit-powers) and the milder form of "oppression" where only the body and / or soul (which was the seat of rationality, emotions and willingness utterances) were subject to the demon (s) dominion.
According to Hagin was Christian in its nature being a spiritual being, which in turn was made partaker of the divine nature. It was therefore impossible for a Christian spirit that could be invaded by demonic forces about you then voluntarily gave in to such an extent that it was no longer a Christian. The Spirit was really meant to control mind and body. God's ideal plan torpedertes However, when the demons moved into a Christian's mind and / or body to express themselves through these and man reborn spirit (personality) were not given himself known to the extent that it / they wanted.
Given at Rome from 8.26 to 27 and the apostle Paul's reference to "prayer with unutterable sigh," Hagin launched a special form of prayer that included speaking in tongues, but also including non-articulate moan from the believer's "born-again spirit." According to Hagin was a particularly effective prayer technique, which still could be initiated by the believer, but may have originated in the Holy Spirit's prompting. Intercession technique given by Hagin further biblical alibi through Paul's statement in Gal 4.19 - "My children, whom I again travail in birth until Christ be formed in you" 16
For Hagin technique seemed mainly to be used in prayer for another person. He wrote on one occasion:
Sometimes when you intercede for others for physical illness, it can seem like spirit - even though in the physical sense is not the case - that you're fighting sticks to your body. You see, you are representing another person. Sometimes I experience a pain, just like they do. If they have abdominal pain, I feel stomach pain. Unless they manage to breathe, gasping for breath, I also. I identified with dem.17
This specific prayer technique, referred to as both groaning and travail in English, alludes to a woman in travail. Hagins preaching at this point has been pursued - and radicalized by, among others, the couple Sam and Jane Whaley. I even stayed in Tulsa during the period from 1983 to 1984 and participated regularly at Jane Whaley weekly prayer meetings (along with, among others, 10 to 20 Swedes who went on Hagins Bible). In this environment the travail greater extent than in Hagin related to intercede for the people one thought was tormented by demonic spiritual forces. A further contrast, Hagin was that the latter constantly pointed out that the technique could be initiated "in faith", but had directly promoted at the Spirit inspirasjon.18 In the environment surrounding the couple Whaley, however, was to direct encouraged to "groan in spirit" - one could even decide to start and stop.
Lamb of God Church
After Tulsa intended stay I returned to Oslo and quickly found my place in the newly charismatic sect Lamb of God Church (now Oslo Gospel Center). Partly influenced by Hagin, but more through the Uppsala church Word of Life (who practiced "barnsnödsbön", modeled after Jane Whaley) and most thoroughly Derek Princes demonologihefter, the emphasis of åndsutdrivelse some of the church's trademark for years to come. It was proclaimed that the spirit of man which constituted one's personality, could be localized to the abdomen. The Spirit was, however, in most Christian "stunted" in the sense that demonic spiritual forces lay around it and kept it to express themselves.
The most effective way "to connect" with their reborn spirit - and thereby share in its pain, indirect seen to have "contact" spiritual forces that held the personality down - was through to "pray with unutterable sigh." The expression henspeilte the same as "barnsnödsbön" in Swedish or "groaning" / "travail" in English - namely that by groaning and moaning in faith gave sound to the pain you thought one's own spirit "felt" because of demonic oppression.
Many of the sect members were - like myself - officially students and therefore had the opportunity to spend two or three hours daily to prayer for personal needs and where the primary goal was selvutfrielse from demonic spirits. Many of us made similar experiences Basham and Prince had described in the literature already referred to. I remember even how it might start with abdominal pain that increased in intensity and after a few days moved upward in the body.
As we became more driven, could it all - until next time - be over in a few minutes. It all culminated usually with the body "tensed" and we were us aware of a kind of cramp-like reaction of the pharynx (including wheeze sounds, which we at that time interpreted as the demon's reluctance to "come out"), which ended with vomiting - and often - vomiting. Other "manifestations" could be intense crying - which we are already at that time identified to indicate that they had made contact with deeper, repressed emotions - such as soreness or anger because of a subjective experience of injustice that was done to one (preferably in early childhood). The experience of injustice can sometimes pinpoint, while at other times it was more a question of a general loss experience (for example, related to the lack of confirmation in childhood years). Although I experienced on one occasion that a blood vessel was blown up in one eye parallel to my subjective experience of "åndsutfrielse" (cf. Physiological reaction patterns referred to earlier).
Also in the New Age communities
It is subsequently interesting to note that similar physiological reactions are detectable in very different contexts than charismatic åndsutfrielsesmiljøer. The term "rebirthing" refers to New Age context, both on a hyper ventilating breathing technique and the "birth". It will be the way to relive his own birth so as to be freed from the specific trauma one's biological birth allegedly inflicted one. Both the primal scream-like technique and the physiological reactions it fosters, are very similar in New Age- and karismatikermiljøer - this despite the fact that we interpret as different what really happens in the extension reactions.
The question of what is really going well rather is a matter for psychiatry to explore, it's a different matter. •
1 Bo Hanson and Pär Lundqvist, "They have prästerna have väckt sensation in his fight against djävulen." Allers No. 15 (4/16/78) p. 10.
2 "Bergen student speaks out to 'BT'." Bergens Tidende 11/28/78. See also "Djevleutdriverne used force." Dagbladet 01.28.78 p. 3, 8; "Åndeutdrivelsessaken in Bergen." Our Country No. 28 - 34 year. (2/2/78) p. 5 A more local demoni debate occurred a few years later in the Grenland area, occasioned by various media in Telemark Arbeiderblad, see for example "exorcism of sex-element" . 2/14/85, p. 10th journalist's assertion that attempt åndsutfrielse happened in continuation of "symbolic intercourse" - and probably where the symbolic replacement was real intercourse - did not result correctness. The journalist seems largely to have been based on the two religion historian Elisabeth Walaas and Eva Lundgren in Bergen. (Ola Kr. Gjertsen, "Religion Scientists confirm TA-posting". Telemark Arbeiderblad 02/15/85 p. 14).
3 In retrospect, perhaps equally debated, at least in karismatikerkretser, the state channel unprepared presenter, Precious Ramndal, exposing their ignorance - not only on the topic of demonology, but about religion as such - when she asked, "What is prayer?".
4 Fleming H. Revell Company, Old Tappan, New Jersey in 1972.
5 Don Basham, Free us from evil (Copenhagen: church bell Publishing, 1975).
6 Basham, Free us from evil s. 158-159.
7 Basham, Free us from evil s. 157.
8 For many, it was nevertheless the demo preaching just became a new theoretical insights. In an interview with Verdens Gang admitted ia the Norwegian publisher of Princes proclamation that she had no personal experience with åndsutfrielse. ("Expulsion is the wrong word." VG 21/01/78 p. 8).
9 Derek Prince, Demonology, study No 2 - "How Jesus dealt with demons" (Aalestrup, Denmark: Pay it forward, [u.å.]) s. 12.
10 Derek Prince, Demonology, study No 4 - "Again verdict and casting out demons" (Aalestrup, Denmark: Pay it forward, [u.å.]) s. 14.
11 Prince, Demonology, study nr 5 - "Cult and Occult: Satan's snares revealed." (Aalestrup, Denmark: Pay it forward, [u.å.]) s. 2.
12 Prince, Demonology, study No 6 - "Seven ways to keep their deliverance on." (Aalestrup, Denmark, Pay it forward, [u.å.]) s. 1.
15 Kenneth E. Hagin, The Triumphant Church (Tulsa: Faith Library Publications, 8th. Pr., 2000) p. 264-265.
14 Kenneth E. Hagin, The Origin and Operation of Demons (Tulsa: Faith Library Publications, 1978) p. 8-11. Finis Jennings Dake, God's Plan for Man. The Key to the World's Great House of Wisdom (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Bible Sales, Inc., 1977 (6th. Pr.) P. 76-83; Dake's Annotated Reference Bible (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Bible Sales, Inc., 1981 (2nd. pr.), p. 1, 51 ff. Relatively identical ideas had yet been launched long before Dake George Hawkins Pember book Earth's Earliest Ages and Their Connection with Modern Spiritualism and Theosophy (Glasgow: Pickering & Inglis, originally written in 1876), 13th. ed. p. 19ff.
15 Kenneth E. Hagin, Demons and How To Deal With Them (Tulsa: Faith Library Publications, 10th. Pr., 1979) p. 3.
16 Kenneth E. Hagin, The interceding Christian (Tulsa: Faith Library Publications, 9th. Pr., 1979) p. 22.
17 Kenneth E. Hagin, The Art of Intercession. Handbook on How To Intercede (Tulsa: Faith Library Publications, 2nd. Pr., 1981), p. 31.
18 Kenneth E. Hagin, The Art of Prayer. A Handbook on How To Pray (Tulsa: Faith Library Publications, 4th. Ed., 8th. Pr., 2000) p. 206.
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