søndag 27. desember 2015

No. 1097: Jesus has not always been "perfectly"!

No. 1097:
Jesus has not always been "perfectly"!

Picture of my wife Berit Nyland Christensen who is the warmest believers I know. A heart for other people who are as big as a pyramid!


File. 3. 12 I do not mean that I have already obtained all this, or everything is perfect, but I press on toward it to seize it, because I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 13 My brothers and sisters, I do not think about myself that I have apprehended. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. 15 Let us think so, although we have reached maturity. And if you look differently at something, God will give you clarity also in it. 16 Let's just so far we have come, continue on the same track!

There are several types of perfection. We are perfect in Christ by believing in him. We are mature as believers so far we have come in our sanctification. And one day when we shall see Jesus as he is and be like Him, we shall be fully perfected.

I believe that Jesus also has had a "development" which he received the lessons and was taught by his father - God. This speaks font on many people, and in fact the day we come home to heaven, we will also "go" on with God. It will not be "perfect", but we will never be able to fall into sin.

This required course many scriptures to substantiate my claims here. But do try to take some.

Word. 8. 30 I was builder with him. I was happy for him day after day and played steadily for his face. 31 I was playing on his earth and rejoiced with the people.

It says about Jesus that he was the builder and played for God the Father's face. In other words, here we meet Father and son where the Son is in the process of "maturing".

The basic text in Hebrew are following here: that Jesus was at the Father's side and were trained. Moreover, he was the joy for him. And this "life" pleases God the Father (freely translated). In other words, that Jesus went to "learn" by His Father was God faders large comfortable.

In other words, Jesus had a "productive" development where he looked more and more like his father, in the end, he was just like him.

The same will happen to us, the day we stand before Jesus. We shall be his equal in obtaining a glorious body, but it will also continue a "productive" development when we will get the answers to everything.

We have many scriptures on, here are some:

1 Cor. 13. 12 Now we see through a glass, darkly;
          then we shall see face to face.
          Now I understand piecemeal,
          then I shall know fully, as God knows me completely.

Joh. Obvious. 21. 7 He who overcomes will get this heritage, and I will be his God and he shall be my son.

Final Comment:
I only have an easy way through some article highlighted that Jesus is born, created, shaped and formed by his Father - Yahweh - God.

Trinity believes that Jesus has been forever, so that Yahweh. But it does not say Scripture. So get a choose one yourself, to believe in, what God's word says, or what the Trinity says and teaches. Now I do not think that these heresies in the great and the whole thing will repent, unfortunately. But there will probably come a day for those of us that we are confronted election. And there are many or few who believe in this that I teach, so always let God's word be crucial for what you think and believe. Nothing else!

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lørdag 26. desember 2015

No. 1096: Jesus was tested or "tested" before he came to earth to complete the work of salvation?

No. 1096:
Jesus was tested or "tested" before he came to earth to complete the work of salvation?

Picture of Zlatan Ibrahimović who said why he was always the best. It was because he was 10 times better than everyone else. So it was with Jesus, when he was human. He was so infinitely better than us, who had Adams seed in us. He came in likeness of sinful flesh, but inwardly he was totally unlike us. He had all the divine fullness op inside. He came from God - Yahweh as he was and came forth from him.


From my commentaries Hebrews. 5. 1. A high priest is always taken among men and appointed to serve God on behalf of people. He shall offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.

There were strict regulations that applied priestly service in Israel. It was not the one who wanted was allowed. But it was the Levite who came from the tribe of Levi and Aaron and on his sons in charge of priestly service.

2 He can show leniency toward those who fail and err, because he himself has human weakness

The high priest had his service there he brought first a victim of his own sin. Secondly, the people (3. Genesis 16). When he had to do sacrifice also for himself, he showed that he was a sinner who needed grace people.

Therefore it says about him; show leniency toward those who fail and err, because he himself has human weakness

3 and therefore must offer a sin offering also for himself, not only for the people.

The fact that he brought a sacrifice first for themselves speaks more than 10,000 words on how inadequately whole Levitical and Aaronic priesthood is. Unlike the priesthood Jesus belongs.

4 No man taketh himself this dignity himself, but he is called by God, as Aaron.

Aaron was called by God by virtue of his position and lineage. Jesus was chosen by God for his work before the foundation was laid. God the Father decided and called Jesus to his work before the world was.

5 Thus Christ not risen up the honor of being a high priest. He got it by God who said to him: You are my son, I have begotten you today.

But it was only after the resurrection that Jesus went into his priestly service fully. You are my son and I have begotten you today referring to the resurrection.

Room. 1. 4 When the Spirit of holiness inaugurated as the mighty Son when he rose from the dead.

6 Likewise, he says in another place:
You shall be a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.

Now we come more into Melchizedek later in the book. But what is special about Melchizedek is that he was a priest of the most high God and even Abraham bowed down to him.

1. Genesis 14 17 When Abram had turned Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him, he returned. Then came the king of Sodom came out to meet him in Slettedalen, now called King's Valley. 18 And Melchizedek, king of Salem, brought forth bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High. 19 He blessed Abram, saying,
"Blessed be Abram of the Most High God,
 who created heaven and earth!

 20 Blessed be God Most High,

 who has delivered your enemies into your hand! "

Then Abram gave him a tenth of all.

7 At the time Jesus lived on earth, bathroom and he pleaded with loud cries and tears to him who could save him from death and he was heard because he was devout.

In the garden of Gethsemane we see how under rewarding Jesus was the Father's will. Father had even decided that Jesus His own Son to die for all human sin! But for Jesus - as a person - it was a struggle to implement it.

8 Though he were a Son, he learned obedience through what he suffered.

Jesus was the first Father created and which it is paid attention to himself equal. Yet had he stood willing. First to please the Father, secondly, to suffer and die for us.

9 When he had made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation for all who obey him;

But the fight, disgrace and everything was fully match ended on the cross. After the Cross followed exaltation that went into two divisions. Resurrection and Ascension. Through it all, he has provided a perfect salvation for all.

10 God had then given him the name of the High Priest Melchizedek.

But already from before creation was Jesus destined to be all these things that Paul mentions here.
Joh. e. 17: 5 And now I ask you, Father, give me the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Word. 8. 22 Jehovah carried me forward as his first work,
          before his deeds in distant times.
       
    23 From everlasting I was shaped,
          In the beginning, before earth came into being.
       
    24 I was born when depths not exist
          and the water rich sources were not to.
       
    25 Before the mountains were put in place,
          before the hills was I born.
       
    26 He had not yet made earth and fields
          and land earth first dust grains.
       
    27 I was there when he established the sky
          and carved up the horizon over the deep,
       
    28 when he gave power to the skies above
          and springs of the deep became strong,
       
    29 when he set boundary for the sea
          so water stopped where he commanded,
          when he traced the foundations.
       
    30 I was builder with him.
          I was happy for him day after day
          and played steadily for his face.
       
    31 I was playing on his earth
          and rejoiced with the people.
       
    32 So now listen to me, kids!
          Blessed are those who keep my ways.
       
    33 Listen to the exhortation and be wise;
          contempt it!
       
    34 Blessed is the man who hears me,
          who daily watch at the doors of my
          and keep the gates mine.
       
    35 For whoever finds me finds life
          and win favor with the Lord.
       
    36 But he who does not find me, damage his soul.
          All who hate me love death.

When reading these verses from the book of Proverbs, it sounds almost like a teacher who over samples a student, if he really can do their job.

First explaining God himself how Jesus came to be. He was carried forward before anything else. Before God created anything, so shaped, formed and bore him forward Jesus.

"The Lord brought me up as his first works, before his deeds in distant times. From everlasting I was shaped, in the beginning, before earth came into being. I was born when the depths did not exist and the water rich sources were not made. "

We read the same about Jesus in Micah 5. 1 and many other places. The apostle John also says the same in his prologue. This is from my preliminary commentaries Gospel of John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word. Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The very first verse of the Bible begins thus: In the beginning God created heaven and earth. (1 Mos 1,1). John opens almost equally. Here begins the prologue of John tom v. 18. In the beginning it says, something very important. There is only one that was BEFORE the beginning; Father. Jesus is the first Father produced or born. Kol. 1. 15b the firstborn over all creation. Jesus has a beginning teacher Scripture clearly more seats. Mika 5. But you, Bethlehem Ephratah, the least among the clans of Judah! From you I let a man who will be ruler over Israel. He has its origins in ancient times, he is from ancient days. This speaks of Jesus, both in his pre-existence; Has its origin or beginning from ancient days. We read about the same among others Ord. 8 the wisdom which refers to Jesus Christ. There are some books that were written in the time between the New and Old Testament. We call them GT`s apocryphal books, and they are included among the books in the Old Testament of the Catholic Christians. There we find several Jewish texts that say something about this wisdom ..
Book of Wisdom writes so in Chapter 7 (26) The (= wisdom) is the radiance of eternal light, a spotless mirror of God's work, and an image of his goodness.
Furthermore, in chapter 9: (1) My fathers and mercy lord, who hast made all things by your word (2) and by your wisdom formed man .... (4) Give me the wisdom that sits by your throne .. .. (9) It knows your works and was present when you made the world.
Sirak writes so in chapter 24: (8) Then I got (= wisdom) a decree from all the world's creator, my Creator gave me a home and said (cfr. Prolog v14) .... (9)
 In the beginning, before all time, made him myself ...
Jesus was God as we read other Angels are mentioned to be. But he was something far more, the only thing that is equal and the Father that he has given all power and his life. And he is the only one from heaven came down and become a man fully.

2 He was in the beginning with God.

Jesus was in the beginning with God, it also says Paulus. Kol. 1. 17 and he is before all things, and all things are by him. And he's the only one who has shown us who the father is. V. 15a And he is an image of God is invisible. But angels was with God and being mentioned as gods, but Jesus was not only God, but also son. Psalm 97. 7 Confounded be all who worship images, that boast themselves of idols. All gods must bow before him

3 All things were made by him; without him nothing was made of all that exists.

When we read 1 Genesis 1.1 states in the sixth word that it was Alpha and Omega or in Hebrew: Alef & Taw. It was Jesus who created everything, it also says Paul in Colossians. 1. 16 for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things were created through him and for him. It looks like the Father has delegated all or much of the Son? The "execution unit" of all, son. Father is secluded and gives its approval and says a yes or no!

4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.

When we read God's word carefully, as we find out that the Father has hidden himself to the end. He has given the Son all. Son has received also the life of God, life speaks of quality, glory and which is opposed to darkness. We can share Jesus' ministry and service in 3 parts. In his preeksistens he was God during his jordliv he was human. After the resurrection, he was both God and man!

5 And the light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not overcome it.

Here we read about the incarnation. Jesus became man, for a short time. Renounced everything, even his Deity Practice. Jesus never did anything on his own but he was always obedient God on earth as the Son of God. He was anointed with the Spirit of God and had the power of God. (Ap. And Jesus was shining, but it was hidden from the ugjenfødte and darkened eye. Jesus appearances were not of himself (when he was on earth before Calvary), but that he was a "glare" of the Father. Col. 2. 9 In him the whole fullness deity bodily present.

Final Comment:
Yes, Jesus overcame everything, was tested long before he came to this world. There was nothing gamble to send Jesus. He was "tested" and found worthy long before the foundation was laid, or while everything was going? It is quite possible that eventually so did Jesus more and more responsibilities, he was what ultimately took over creation?

This is from my commentaries Colossians Dispenser Letter 1 15 He is the invisible image of God, the firstborn before all creation.

Hebr.1. 3a He is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being. None other than Jesus has shown us who the father is. Joh.e.14.9b. He who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father? Meanwhile, not Jesus the Father, he has shown us who the father is. Jesus is the Father's first product or creature, before anyone else. He has its origins in ancient times, he is from ancient days says Mika. Ord.8. 22 I was the first thing that the Lord brought forth, his first works of old. 23 In the origin I was shaped, in the beginning, before earth came into being. 24 I was born before the deep ocean was there, before springs filled with water. 25 Before the mountains were put in their place, before the hills I was born, 26 years before the Lord created the earth and fields and the first mold on earth.

    27 I was there when he left heaven and tense expanse of deep,

    28 when he collected the clouds up there and let depths sources flowing strongly.

    29 When he put a limit to the sea, so water stopped where he commanded,

        and he founded the earth, 30 then I was building man with him.

        I was happy for him day after day and played steadily for his face.

    31 I played throughout his earth and had my joy in human children.

16 For in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or rulers, powers and spiritual powers - all things were created through him and for him.

Here are incredible depths. The Bible is no doctoral thesis on creation and how everything was created. Anything we get a glimpse into, but it is primarily a presentation of God through Jesus Christ created everything.

Hebr.11. 3 By faith we understand that the world is created by God's word, and that what we see, has its origin in the invisible.

Jesus has the largest and most important name of all. His name is above every other name.

17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

He is before all, that the firstborn and only begotten Son of God. Without Jesus would the world be in total chaos. Through Jesus' death and resurrection carries the commandment that the world would consist, if not in the form it is now. But without Jesus had all gone down the tube and Satan had fully succeeded with their evil intentions and intentions. But now heralds a new era and a new era through Jesus Christ.

2. Pet.3. 13 But we look forward to what he has promised: a new heaven and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

18 He is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, he saw in all things He may have the preeminence.

There is no pope, priest or ruler or any other people who are head of the church, but Jesus Christ. When it says the origin means it is Jesus is God's pattern image. The pattern God himself will have to be found only in Jesus Christ. 1 m is 1 m, but there should be discussion how much 1 m is located the original in Paris, France. Original and pattern for everything God does is only found in Jesus Christ there have been many people who have been filled with the Spirit of God through the ages

19 For in him God would let all the fullness should dwell,

God the Father has determined by themselves that Jesus would come as a man, and here would God even take home filled him with his Spirit. The Incarnation is a mystery yet a fact. In Jesus Christ, God was human. 100% God but still 100% human. When God Himself took residence in Jesus? From the days of eternity. But Jesus both renounced glory, got it again and to have it forever. Joh.e.17. 4 I have glorified thee on the earth when I finished the work you gave me to do. 5 And now I ask you, Father, give me the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

20 and through him God would reconcile everything to himself, what is on earth and in heaven, having made peace through his blood on the cross.

When man fell had there been a drop in engleverden before the fall. When both angels fell, 1 \ 3 of them and the people, even got creation the same judgment. When Jesus atoned sin restored him everything and more. The universe and all creation have been made partakers of redemption. Rom.8. 19 Everything that is created, is eagerly waiting for God's children may be manifested in glory. 20 For the Creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who made it so. Still, there was hope, 21 because creation itself will be liberated from the bondage of corruption and share in the freedom of God's children will own glory. 22 We know that all creation, groans in travail until this day. 23 And not only that, but also we who have the Spirit, the first fruits of the upcoming autumn, we groan within ourselves and yearn for the day when our bodies will be freed out and we become children of God entirely.

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1095-jesus-their-many-names-and.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-218-if-god-is-christ.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-219-how-can-one-god-be-three-persons.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-220-gods-name-and-i-am.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1084-since-trinity-is-not-biblical.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1080-great-commission-to-baptize-in.html

onsdag 23. desember 2015

No. 1095: Jesus their many names and descriptions in both the Old and New Testament clearly shows that he is a product of Yahweh, but not Yahweh!

No. 1095:
Jesus their many names and descriptions in both the Old and New Testament clearly shows that he is a product of Yahweh, but not Yahweh!

Image of Jesus when he was a small delightful and lovely boy with his lovely mother Maria.
Here we see the incarnation of Lord Engel who became man. It was not God who became man, but the Son of God, scripture says in the little Bible, and let us believe the word rather than what people say and think.

Joh. e. 3. 16 For God loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world might be saved through him.


Jesus, I've discovered from the scriptures in the second article that he has a beginning and came forth from the Father, and therefore is Divine but not the only true God.

Here comes more as supportive of this I argue, especially God's word description of him, not to mention the titles and descriptions type gives him!

Jesus is the Son of God - the only true God!

I can not repeat myself all the time, but Jesus is not God, but the Son of God. Yes, God is he in the way that angels are there, a messenger. But not the one true God - but God's Son.

This goes on copyright, we are all sons of Adam. But not even Jesus, the Son of God. When all of Scripture gives overall testimony here about. Why not bow to God's word? Is it pride and traditions that prevent than? I do not know, but the biblical teaching is that Jesus is the Son of God, finished work, period!
Jesus is not the son of God in the sense that God is his real father like that as we look at father and son. God did not marry and then have a son. God did not have intercourse with Mary so that she gave birth to Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God in the sense that he is God in human form (John 1: 1, 14). Jesus is the Son of God in the sense that He was born of Mary through the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 says, "The angel replied, 'The Holy Spirit will come to you, and the strongest of forces will overshadow you. So the Holy that will be born will therefore be called the Son of God ".

During his trial over the Jewish leaders then demanded the highest priest of Jesus: "I demand of you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God" (Matthew 26:63). "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. But I say to you all: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand on the clouds of heaven "(Matthew 26:64). The Jewish leaders responded by accusing Jesus of blasphemy (Matthew 26: 65-66). Later, before Pontius Pilate, "The Jews insisted," We have a law, and according to that law He must die, because He claimed to be the Son of God "(John 19: 7). Why would claiming to be the Son of God be considered blasphemy and be worthy of a death sentence? The Jewish leaders understood exactly what Jesus meant by the phrase "Son of God." Being the Son of God, is to be of the same nature as God. The Son of God is "of God." They claim to be of the same nature as God to actually be God was blasphemy to the Jewish leaders, and therefore, they demanded Jesus' death, in keeping with 3. Deuteronomy 24:15. Hebrerbrevet 1: 3 expresses this very clearly, "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and accurate picture of Him."

Final Comment:
Jesus has many other titles and names. To name a few: Immanuel - God with us. Prince of Peace, under adviser, Jesus of Nazareth and many other names.
That it says that Jesus is the Eternal Father and other synonyms that make him God, then it is misleading and enticing if one does not understand the context it was written. And that the Norwegian translation is misleading.
Here are some thoughts about this and what I have written before.

Isaiah 9. 6 For a child is born,
          a son is given.
          Dominions of masters placed on his shoulder.
          He has been named
          Under Full counselor, Mighty God,
          Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

That Jesus is the Eternal Father shows us that he is not from eternity but from tomorrow morning. He is eternal, and he is the Father when he is the father of a new genus. As ia we find lessons on from Romans 5 about the two people. And the first and last Adam. Adam was the ancestor of all humans who populate Earth. Jesus is the ancestor of all those who will populate the sky and the world to come. Not harder than this. Such as the Trinity who builds his entire doctrine around scripture and some others are not anything other than a strong delusion!

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-218-if-god-is-christ.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-219-how-can-one-god-be-three-persons.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-220-gods-name-and-i-am.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1084-since-trinity-is-not-biblical.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1080-great-commission-to-baptize-in.html

tirsdag 22. desember 2015

No. 1094: Website Searchlight writes untrue about me, but withholds the truth about Jan Aage Torp which erases everything, but I'll leave that rule most stand, also over the years!

No. 1094:
Website Searchlight writes untrue about me, but withholds the truth about Jan Aage Torp which erases everything, but I'll leave that rule most stand, also over the years!

Website Searchlight appears as pill rotten as not managed, will and wish to disavow that they stand the Jan Aage Torp's side when they write lies about me that I have changed anything. Not a thing I've changed and wants and intends to change when it comes to facing ridicule apostle January Aage Torp. I give it not for a psychopath and adulterer!

Has received feedback. Ye they say that this Kjell Andersen engaged in manipulation, and arguably stands at Jan Aage Torp page. Although he apparently is opposed remarriage?
He rubs and hang me out by saying that I have as a "concession" removed blog posts. This is not true, I've mostly just removed some posts referred Smyrna blog, to not give those too much attention.
And some other posts that I experienced that I wrote more as the "match" heat, than anything I really stands for. But what is there now is what I stand for!

Here there are leash by people who obviously did not want me well, and Lord!

Here takes Helle Thorning-Schmidt (center) selfies with US President Barack Obama (right) and the British Prime Minister David Cameron. To the right sits first lady Michelle Obama.


Kjell Andersen foremost "enemy" is Barack Obama, it may be that he is an admirer of this wolf in sheep's clothing? Obama is after all a normal upward man unlike Torp whose grandiosity that surpasses even Anders Behring Breivik.

This writes Kjell Andersen who runs the website Searchlight:
"Christensen on his side during the autumn deleted a good part of his statement and now says that" this has been on the blog as a mistake "

I have not deleted anything significant, except for 1 ½ years ago when I removed two words about Jan Aage Torp and the same about Hanvold. This is not true what Kjell Andersen writes, but it is Jan Aage Torp who have deleted, not me.

Why turn Kjell Andersen at the head?
Could it be that Kjell Andersen is a strong admirer really of the people he writes cons? We have seen other things that Andersen wrote.

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1069-torodd-fuglesteg-norways.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/06/no-979-jan-aage-torps-new-law-lost.html

mandag 21. desember 2015

No. 1093: Scripture clear teaching both in the Old and New Testament is that Yahweh is before everything, while Jesus has a beginning, when he came forth from Yahweh and is divine!

No. 1093:
Scripture clear teaching both in the Old and New Testament is that Yahweh is before everything, while Jesus has a beginning, when he came forth from Yahweh and is divine!

Image of man who also originated eternal scripture says, the same as Jesus who is also a creature. It is only God the Father - Yahweh who is not a creature. Creation is the title of the subject in the ceiling paintings in the Sistine Chapel in Rome, painted in fresco by Michelangelo from 1508 to 1512.



It says nothing about the Trinity in the Bible, either in GT or NT. But the whole Bible is bursting to assert that God is one with one person - Yahweh. Why create a "new" learning where God is no longer one, but three?

He who knows history knows that the whole thing was to distance themselves from the original Jewish believers, and to adapt to multi-Guderi among the nations!

How we read the Bible?

When more people, especially those who stubbornly asserted that God is a person for three people, a TriadeGud. So it should get some alarm bells to ring with them if they have a false understanding of what God himself presents in his own words when the whole word of God, we find no cover for such a thing. On the contrary, here it is repeatedly claimed that God is one, and not more. This with multi-Guderi is something that has always followed pagan closet, while the belief in one God, are ancient the original biblical and Jewish beliefs and teachings.

Let us initially look at two passages, one that deals with God the Father, and one that deals with the Son, Jesus Christ.

Psalm 90. 2 Before the mountains were born, before the earth and the world was, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

Here we read clear that God the Father is from eternity. But what about the Son Jesus Christ?

Mika 5. 1. You, Bethlehem Ephratah, at least among the clans of Judah! From you let me ruler over Israel come. His origins are from of old, from ancient days.

Here we can turn it fixed itself in the Norwegian Bible translation that Yahweh. God the Father has originated before time. While Son Jesus Christ - he originated from ancient days. In other words, Jesus was not until Father was. Jesus himself says that he came forth from the Father, and everything else with Jesus confirms this, not least that he is the Son.

We go to the basic text of these verses are even better off.

Psalm 90. 2 to review Yahweh - God the Father says in Hebrew, "olam" 2x means from eternity eternity. So before anything else. In other words, although the wording indicates and explains here that none can be equated with Yahweh.

But Mika 5. 1 it says about Jesus follows the Hebrew, "olam" which means it is not before time, but tomorrow morning. In other words, Jesus has a beginning, which Yahweh - God the Father has not.

Here I explain this in an article a few years ago:
There is no word in Hebrew or Greek meaning "eternal" (which never ceases). In Jewish thought, which the Scriptures have their origin, are all seen in ages / n / ne / adj; tidsalderlig. ...- Eph. 2; 7: How wild he (YHWH) in the coming ages (g: a rubbish aiosin) show His overwhelming grace Wealth of Kindness toward us in Yeshua HaMashiavch .. / 2 Tess. 1, 9: ..deres punishment (they ugjenfødte) becomes a tidsalderlig (aionion) destruction away from Adonay`s Face and from His Glory and Power.

The Hebrew; olam and the Greek, aion (eon), denotes something "disappears on the horizon. Something for man" incalculable ". It is only YHWH & Yeshua who know the time span length, for every age - and the time length of the ages for each other, and the He reveals it through his Spirit, when it is easy.

Regarding tidsalderlig torment for devil spirits and ugjenfødte / disobedient) - in the age of all (eoniske) fire, it denotes this is a painful process of destruction (by fire), resulting in complete annihilation / annihilation. Only YHWH who know the duration (time length) of this punishment / annihilation process.
This translation blunder hangs sometimes after church needs to ("reinforce fear" - intimidate the population to pay indulgences and Support (submit to) the church and church doctrine. - Each is a product of Greek pagan-philosophical thought.

In our time is actually the church Bible translators still too cowardly to translate Olam / Aion, accurate, age / eon / time-span / adjective; tidsalderlig / eonisk / persistent / (long) term. It is the churches and the church that pays their salary, and churches are dependent on maintaining the "tradition" to exist, including the u-biblical and erroneous - deliberately!

I've certainly come to the conclusion that the words aion and olam both speak of an infinitely long period of time, which is also translated as eternal, so we put in the word. When it comes to word aionos, so this seems to be used in the sense of infinity without end. But this is like saying difficult. I see that many (the majority) of Bible teachers and scripture investigators have landed on that aionos means eternal and infinite. So do we have the expression "Aion ton aionon" which means "forever" or "forever and forever." What I mean is that this "destruction process" will be so prolonged, that it is natural to compare it with an eternity - because the fire burns all the time, as long as there is nothing to burn.
(end of quote).

This about destruction, but it is the same thing we find with God the Father again and again throughout Scripture. He's from before the time and never ceases. While Jesus, and all of us, we have a beginning. Jesus before tomorrow morning. We "other" came along.

Here an example of God the Father.

Daniel 7. 18 But the saints will receive the kingdom and keep it forever, forever and ever. "Speaks of Yahweh shall have the kingdom forever, but what about Jesus? He will have a limited time before giving it to God the Father.

1 Cor. 15. 27 For everything under his feet. When it says everything, it is clear that God is exempt. It is God who put everything under him. 28 But when everything is subject to him shall the Son also himself submit to God who put all things under him, and God will be all in all.

When we humans came into existence, are also in the font set to be from eternity, just as it is with Jesus. In other words, we are a creature, so is Jesus too. We are not came forth from God as Jesus, yet so featured font both Jesus and human origin in the same way.

Job. 20. 4 Do you not see that this has been from everlasting, from the time man was placed on earth.

Notice that it says both about Jesus and us humans, we have a very early beginnings as Scripture speaks of as eternity.

Final Comment:

I can not help it that Scripture does not teach that there is a triad-God. Do not blame me for it, and see it are those who believe this is both the one and the other. Okay, but that's not my problem, it is problem for those who will not bow to God's word and the biblical doctrine of God.

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1092-that-word-was-kjd-who-was-jesus.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1091-chrismesl-true-message-god-has.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1090-jesus-is-angel-of-old-testament.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1089-yahweh-is-god-jesus-is-our.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1088-its-straight-out-of-matthew-10.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1085-holy-spirit-is-not-person-of.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1084-since-trinity-is-not-biblical.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1083-baptism-of-father-son-and-holy.html

søndag 20. desember 2015

No. 1092: That word was kjød- who was Jesus - tells us that he has a beginning, and that he came forth from the Father and is divine!

No. 1092:
That word was kjød- who was Jesus - tells us that he has a beginning, and that he came forth from the Father and is divine!

That Jesus is the Word tells us that he has a beginning, as it never starts with a word, but with a thought. Who came with this was "before" word? Yahweh - God the Father, no one else. He was there before "the Word" when he is all life true origins and beginnings.
He who knows history knows that the whole thing was to distance themselves from the original Jewish believers, and to adapt to multi-Guderi among nations. Therefore, an in many ways to say that the Emperor Constantine and his family should have "honor" that this heresy became a part of Christian doctrine for nearly 1700 years although it is completely alien to the word of God, and his mother was enough which also affected the Emperor Constantine much in "Christian" direction.
Picture of Helena, or Flavia Helena, Emperor Constantine the Great's mother. She was born ca. 250 e. And lived until she was about 80 years. Picture is probably something converted, when she became "Christian" only when she was 63 years.


From my preliminary commentaries Gospel of John 1 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

V.14 must be the actual center of gravity throughout the prologue. It is instructive to study the way the verse is built on:
First we get two main clauses that say something about the Word: the Word became flesh "and ... dwelt among us."
Then follows a main phrase that says something about the church's reception: We saw his glory. "
The rest of the verse explains further what glory it concerns, first by saying where it comes from (as of the only Son from the Father "), then by saying what it consists in (full of grace and truth").

Let's look at these five sentence joints one by one:

1) Word became flesh "
So easily the biggest mystery in the history of the world is expressed. Three little words. But after reading about the Word divine rank in v1-5, so it's really groundbreaking to imagine that this divine logos entirely too would become a human being like us.
This was unheard of for a Greek way of thinking which despised it created. (ref. v.3). It created was the second-class and inferior. How could God demean himself to be one with it?
This was folly for a Greek logos philosophy (1 Corinthians 1:23). Those who would win the right knowledge and insight into life's secrets by abstract thinking, the audience will: Logos became man, was born on a particular day and died on a particular day. Logos could be seen, heard and taken on (ref. 1 Jn 1.1 to 4).
It was a blasphemous thought for Jews. They could probably be far when it came to distinguishing between different aspects of God, as we saw in terms of wisdom theology v1-2. But to say that this wisdom of God was made man, it was completely uantakelig. When exceeding one boundary between God and creation, and were guilty of the grossest blasphemy.
So it is here in v. 14 Johannes comes with what really distinguished Christianity from these other religions. This was so daring said that the church should fight to understand it for many centuries to come.
But it was a wonderful idea for all of us who accept the faith: This implies that God is not remote, but that he fully shares our plight!
We call this miracle of incarnation. In Greek, it says that the Word became flesh, which in Latin becomes incarnatus, or in Nynorsk: ikjøting. Christ - the Son of God - can be feed into an existence where he really carries a fleshly body, so he must feel both hunger and thirst, cold and sorrow, loneliness and pain. It's pretty amazing that we have such a Christ to believe in!
2) .. dwelt among us "
Also this is an unheard idea for a Jew. God had the chosen his residence in Israel: First, in the tabernacle that accompanied the people in the wilderness (2 Mos 40.34), since the temple in Jerusalem (see the temple dedication and prayer of Solomon in 1 Kings 8.1013).
But now says v.14 that God makes his residence in Israel by the Word. Thus it is said indirectly that the temple is past. Now God's presence linked to the person of Jesus.
We find the same theme clearly expressed in the 2.13 to 22, where Jesus after tempelrenselsen proclaims himself as the new temple. See also John 4.21 to 24: The future of divination must not be tied to a specific location, but must be in spirit and truth. So we let Christians to flock to a particular sanctuary in a specific place to seek God where he is finding. Jesus person is now the key meeting point between God and man.

15 John bore witness of Him and cried out: "It was about him I said: He who comes after me is preferred before me, for he was before me."

Who was before John? We read several places in the OT that Jesus was both with Israel and had appeared to them. We read in 1 Corinthians. 10. 4 and drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them; the rock was Christ. And Jesus appeared also several places. Daniel 3. 25 Then he said, "But I see four men walking about freely in the fire, and they have not taken any harm. The fourth looks like a son of the gods. "26 Now Nebuchadnezzar went to the door of the blazing furnace and shouted," Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, ye servants of the Most High God, come out! "And Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego came out of the fire. Here they were not three anymore, but four when Jesus in his pre-existence with them as god-son who was the Son of man when he came to this earth and became you and me equal.

16 Of his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.

Although this is commentaries I will come with a personal testimony. I was before I became a believer and reborn an active and highly competent football player. Could probably run it very, very far. But when I was saved and later baptized in the Holy Spirit and got the call to preach, I gave up on a football scholarship. Although I'm sure could have been both rich and famous through football, I do not regret one day of stasis 100% in Christ, there is so infinitely greater. Here in time and in eternity. Simply a must stadigvek open their eyes and see it. It is not only grace that he has saved us, but when we begin to see the importance and greatness of this salvation; it is grace upon grace really, yes indeed!
Psalm 84 11 Yes, one day in your temple farms is better than a thousand otherwise. To stand at the threshold of the house of God is better than staying in a tent with godless. What is the King David says? It is better to stand to hand out songbooks, washing toilet laughing what entirely in God's church one to be the star and director of this world!

Final Comment:
Jesus as the Word made man, it tells us that he who is the Word had a beginning. It says nothing about the Trinity in the Bible, either in GT or NT. But the whole Bible is bursting to assert that God is one with one person - Yahweh. Why create a "new" learning where God is no longer one, but three?
He who knows history knows that the whole thing was to distance themselves from the original Jewish believers, and to adapt to multi-Guderi among the nations!

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1091-chrismesl-true-message-god-has.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1090-jesus-is-angel-of-old-testament.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1089-yahweh-is-god-jesus-is-our.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1088-its-straight-out-of-matthew-10.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1085-holy-spirit-is-not-person-of.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1084-since-trinity-is-not-biblical.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1083-baptism-of-father-son-and-holy.html

lørdag 19. desember 2015

No. 1091: Chrismesl true message - God has never made man to die - but he gave his own Son the task!

No. 1091:
Chrismesl true message - God has never made man to die - but he gave his own Son the task!

Rom.8. 32a He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all.

God gave his own son, created a body for him, by his own Spirit. This is Christmas message that God himself GAVVVVVVVVVVV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Notice the wording, God spared not, but gave. It was the Father who gave his own 'property' that we should be able to have to do with him.

What is it telling us? That Jesus came forth from the Father, therefore he perfected. But we, we are imperfect, because we have an imperfect and sinful origin. Therefore, the whole understanding of the Trinity absurd when one says Jesus is perfect, therefore he is God. Yes, Jesus is God, but not the Father, who is the only true God. And he is God above all gods.



Room. 5. 12 Sin entered the world because of one man, and with sin came death. And so stricken death all men because all sinned. 13 There was sin in the world even before the law came, but sin is not counted as sin when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not committed any crime such as Adam. Adam is here a complement of him that was to come. 15 But with grace it is different than the fall. Due to the the vertical to the many die. But grace, the gift of God is something infinitely greater: It is given in abundance for the many because of the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ. 16 And the gift is different than with man's sin. For the judgment of the one led to condemnation, but the grace toward many led to an acquittal, even though many had fallen. 17 Death dominion because of one man's fall. How much more shall not those who accept God's great grace and gift of righteousness life and get domination by one, Jesus Christ.
18 So then, as one man was condemnation for all men, leading one man's act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all. 19 How one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, going through the obedience justify many. 20 The law came for the fall should be large. But where sin abounded, grace much more abound. 21 For just as sin reigned in death, grace reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Jesus rise is the Father, he came forth from him.
We are imperfect, came forth from Adam that fell. Seeing a not so one can get it to that Jesus is the only true God, he is not. He came forth from the Father, and is therefore also perfect as his "intellectual property," Yahweh - God the Father.

Joh. 13. 3 Jesus knew that the Father had given all things into his hand and that he was come from God and went to God.
28 I came from the Father and have come into the world. I am leaving the world and going to the Father. "

Therefore, it is not unnatural that Jesus shows us who God is, if he is not the only true God. But came forth from him.
And we, what we? Just look around, read newspapers and watch TV. You see that we are all of the old Adam, will resemble him all too well.

This is from my commentaries Hebrerbrevet 1. 2 But now, when they are come, he has spoken to us by his Son. God has appointed heir of all things, through whom he created the world.

Now the Son. Joh. e. 1. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Through him have him created the world that makes Jesus on the same level as God and yet he is not the Father who is the origin of everything.

Kol. 1. 15 He is the invisible image of God, the firstborn, which stands over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities - all things were created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and everything composed by him.

Father does nothing without the Son and through.

3 He is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the tall.

Kol.1. 18 He is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, he saw in all things He may have the preeminence.

Jesus is both the largest and premier. He is the first that has been discontinued by the Father. As the Father created and the only one who is like him. He exudes the Father as he is without it being in fragments. As it was with the Prophet and all other people. Kol.1. 17a He is before all things.

When he became a man he served our sin and then sat down at the Father's right hand!

4 So he has become better than the angels; for the name he has been given, is so much greater than theirs.

The Jews believed in angels. But Jesus was no super angel, but something far more than that. He was God's only begotten Son. We are adopted sons and daughters of God, but never begotten.

Final Comment:
Joh.e. 5. 36 But I have a stronger testimony than that of John gave: the works that the Father has given me to finish. And it is these works that I do, which testify that the Father has sent me.

It says right out, that God the Father gives all the light he wants us to have and wear. Jesus its "light" was 120% so he is Divine, for the rest of us we are "smaller" light. Some do not sound at all, it is they who have not accepted salvation in Christ Jesus. After you have accepted salvation, then begin light, and the light will become stronger and stronger, until we stand within its God be life.

Word. 4. 18 The path of the righteous is like the morning light, which steadily grows until the day comes.

Room. 12. 3 By the grace I have received, I say to each of you: Do not think too big thoughts about yourself, but think soberly! Each one should stick to the measure of faith God has given him.

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