It is perceived as insulting to claim that church members - ordinary Christians - should follow the word of God concerning remarriage, when publishers do not but take themselves to remedy just as it suits them yourself!
See article in which I emphasize that the main focus is on the shepherds, priests and ministers to go ahead with the biblical standard, where one is not re-married as a believer!
Image of Arnhild Gjendem in TOSKO as mockery apostle Jan Aage Torp believes that she and I have a Catholic faith.
I do not think right, we both have a biblical faith where we do not think that Christians can marry after a divorce.
This is the basic rule, not remarriage before the second door. Make a there's a been an adulterer and fornicator / adulteress by the word of God.
I and my wife were at the conference organized by the Foundation TOSKO. And I have read a report from the meetings in the newspaper day.
There are many thoughts that one is left with after such a meeting. Both joy that there are some who will follow God's word, not least regarding divorce and remarriage. But also sadness, not least that it is not those who are primarily going to follow the word of God. Jo, these too. But above all, it's the preacher and the shepherds in the church of God which has failed here to be a pattern to the flock. But with even being re-married up to several times, they are so far as they can be to be a role model!
1 Pet. 5. 1. The elders among you I exhort who medeldste and witness the sufferings of Christ, as the one and share in the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 neither as being lords over their congregations, but thus patterns becoming of the flock;
I think there are people who seek to TOSKO and receiving wrong advice. There are new believers who have been separated when they came to believe. And they would follow the Lord, but their former spouse would live a life out in the world and sin. Then saith the Apostle Paul as I read it, that when the believer is free to let those who want the world to go. Even going on with the Lord, and possibly find a new spouse if it is true that the former spouse will live a life away from God.
1 Cor. 7. 12 To the rest I say, not the Lord: If any brother has an unbelieving wife, and she consents to live with him, let him not leave her! 13 And the woman has an unbelieving husband, and he is content to live with her, let her not leave her husband 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart A brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. 16 For what do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or what do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? 17 Dog walking each as the Lord has given him, as God has called him! And so ordain I in all churches. 18 One was called as circumcised, he did not take foreskin over; one is dubbed as the uncircumcised, he lay not circumcised! 19 It does not depend on circumcision, and it does not depend on the foreskin, but the keeping of God's commandments. 20 Every being in the vocation he was called in!
Verse fifteen is the key verse here:
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart A brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
As believers - even as new believers, we will not force anyone to follow the Lord. It is a voluntary choice, and here we read that the new converts where his spouse who does not want to continue the marriage. Is it free - free also to marry if it is believed now being discarded. Notice the word, rejected by the unbelieving. The believers are not allowed to demand a divorce, it is only if the unbeliever says go. Or go yourself, and thus rejects both God and his former spouse who will continue to live with God.
I'm writing in the headline the following:
It is perceived as insulting to claim that church members - ordinary Christians - should follow the word of God concerning remarriage, when publishers do not but take themselves ril right just as it suits them yourself!
After the conference we were directed by TOSKO I realize more than ever that I've been on the right to only focus on Pastors, pastors, evangelists and others with an office or to be a pattern for other believers.
We read as said in 1 Peter. 5.
"Thus patterns becoming of the flock."
Pattern of the flock!
For me, so live today called Christian leaders more as we find it in 2 Pet. 2.
Let us for example. take for us Jan Hanvold and put him up against the false prophets in 2 Pet., and see that he fits in perfectly there.
2. Pet. 2. 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, as there shall be false teachers among you. In secret they shall bring into false doctrines that lead to perdition. They will deny the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Hanvold confess Jesus' name. But he denies Christ living in fornication, and to bring into his glory theology is heresy from beginning to end!
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways, and because of them the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
Lead the blind a blind they both fall into the ditch. Those who go with Hanvold and he has as a pattern for his life being re-married as believers and all the others, goes a secure destruction in the face!
Plus, Hanvold is really a reproach to this world. How? He lives just like the Gentiles live, if not worse than !?
3 With greed and seductive words they will exploit you. For a long time the judgment of them not been idle, and their destruction slumbers not.
After such a life as Hanvold has led, he had looked like shoeshine or washed toilets. But he earns several millions a year to lure people to believe in their warped and seductive message!
Their damnation awaits Hanvold and those who follow him, when the time comes!
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of darkness, that they might be in custody for sentence,
God does not show partiality, all of His creatures who do not comply with his word and will, go their certain death in the face!
5 and as he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, and let the flood come over the wicked world,
What he always found good and clever people. And the bad and unfit, but we will go into salvation ark with our lives? That is the big question!
Hanvold and those who follow him are without past salvation ark when they have not aligned their lives and their all for God and His Word!
6 and as He did Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes and condemned them to destruction and made them as for those who later came to live ungodly,
As Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, so will also the wicked and unbelieving as Jan Hanvold it, if he and they repent while they even have the opportunity!
7 and as He delivered righteous Lot, who was tormented under the wicked unbridled behavior -
The offer of salvation applies equally to all people, even those who have not lived up to the Christian message! Lot was saved, but yet so through fire. The possibility of salvation is also for Hanvold. But then he must either be reconciled with his first wife, or live solitary rest of his life. The marriage lasts a lifetime, to the other door!
8 of this righteous man dwelling among them, was tormented day after day in his righteous soul by seeing and hearing their unlawful deeds -
Now is not bothered Hanvold over sin, but that people will support him and Vision Norway with tithes and sacred gifts. Money, and again money it Hanvold and false prophets will have. And pleasure, honor and recognition outside of it!
9 just as the Lord knows how He will deliver the godly out of temptations and the unjust under punishment in detention until the Day,
There are two exits in this life, the choice is ours. But we can not expect to be saved if we live opposite than the Christian message tells us. Therefore Jan Hanvold repent, tree down the podium. Handing it to others who live in accordance with Christian doctrine!
10 and chiefly those who walk after the flesh unclean lust, and who despise authority. They are haughty and willful. They are not afraid to mock the high powers,
Scripture says Jan Hanvold is willful, then he follows flesh unclean desire. He screams out here on Radio Oslo the most sickening thing. Things that really should not be mentioned among us believers, but it is not Hanvold nor any believer !!
He's overconfident, should have made himself very bakers. However, up until, even though he lives and preaches contrary to the word of God and Christian doctrine!
When it says that they are not afraid to mock high powers, so it fits prefect in with what Hanvold himself says: "To hell with anyone who does not agree that I am re-married!" In other words, we do not accept that Hanvold live in adultery, then it's over and out with us after Hanvold their concepts!
11 whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, do not come with any profane accusation against them before the Lord.
Hanvold has no barriers, as normal and spiritual people. Here are the free-cons certainly anyone who goes against him. Although word of the Lord he rejects taking new wives as he says himself that he has bad sec, but good sex now!
12 But these people like brute beasts born to be taken and destroyed. They speak evil of the things they do not understand, and they will go completely perish in their own corruption,
Of course it is the animal in man Hanvold is characterized by. it is that he and like-minded is half a beast and half human. They and those who follow such will eventually meet his end, they will perish in their own.
A life where one hides behind religion is nothing new, it has man done at all times. But stealing money than in their own or the name of God, it is as bad anyway, a thief is a thief. So also with Hanvold, a whore karl and an adulterer. If he sins with God's "permission" or choose to do it without worrying.
View Jan Hanvold life, one gets scared what it is possible to do in the name of Jesus, and manages to deceive others that this has been God's acceptance. So far away from God's word that Hanvold are both in doctrine and life, it is hardly possible to get!
13 they get unrighteousness salary. They count it a pleasure to spend the day a debauched life. They are like shame stains and abominations, and they revel in their own deceptions while they feast with you.
Glutton and feel they are on life's height after such a life as Hanvold has led, is sheer madness. The man should long since have dressed in sackcloth and ashes. Gott away everything he had and lived solitary rest of his life, if possible he could have God's grace. Hanvold is totally abhorrent and disgusting for a spiritual person, but attractive and appealing to like-minded!
14 Their eyes are full of harlots and they can not stop sinning. They wonder unstable souls. They have a heart trained in greed, and they are children of cursing.
Jan Kaare Hanvold himself said that he had so narrow that he had to hold on with itself everywhere, even in the potato cellar. When he was not satisfied there, so it was about to do to get remarried even though the word of God had closed the door for him.
Hanvold is clearly "good" but not good enough when he does not live and teach in accordance with the word of God. Who will be the pattern for the church, is the horror for us believers!
15 They have left the right path and have gone astray. They have followed the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved unrighteousness salary.
God's word and God's way is really simple, clear and straight forward. Balaam received a clear message from God, but money lid and pulled him. It was his court, although it was also apparently much blessing also on his way. It's strange, God is good and blessing. But ultimately you'll be collected by your sin, whatever. No one will be able to say that because God answered my prayers, as I was in his will. It is only insofar as we are in God's word, and the word of God is within us. That we can invoke God's favor.
We ask, and the miracle happens. Yes, it's big. But bigger is for us believers that we follow Christ and God's own words.
16 But he was rebuked for his offense. A dumb ass speaking with man's voice and stopped the prophet's madness.
Hanvold has been reprimanded several places, not least here in the Heavenly blog. God uses whoever he wants and when he wants.
A donkey used God, how much more will he not use me and you?
17 These are wells without water, clouds driven along by the storm. The deep pitch darkness held them off forever.
They are like empty barrels, like clouds without rain. Simply nothing, just a lot boil and a certain eloquence. But that's all, Hanvold enough destined that he is doing, then we know that he is sent in from the evil pervert and lead people away from a personal relationship from God!
8 For when they speak emptiness big and haughty words, they get the meat's bright and at immorality deceived those who have just escaped from those who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption. For a man is overcome, it is also enslaved.
Scripture says: Joh. e. 8. 36 If the Son sets you free, you shall be free indeed.
Jan Kaare Hanvold hides behind a Christian name and the "grace" that it provides. Ask than God for forgiveness, then it charge up. With that it is not, we need to repent, we will receive God's forgiveness.
Hanvold is a sin slave and belong to this world, therefore also supports the "Christians" who are not born again or live in God's holiness with his life him!
Hanvold located under lust demons and unclean and corrupt flesh, it manages and controls him. He gets so many with him, is because we humans ourselves love our flesh far higher than God if we have repented!
20 For if they first have escaped the world's impurity through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and they are again entangled in these impurities and subject them, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
It had been far better that Jan Kaare Hanvold had remained on the street in Drammen, a gear with a lot of deception in which he not only takes itself. But surely thousands of others to perdition. And would anyone in his against all odds be saved. So they will in all probability lose the entire salary as a
22 But it has gone with them as it is called in the true proverb, The dog returns to its vomit, and: A freshly washed pig wallowing in the mud.
That a dog can eat up his own sly I have even seen if a dog ingests too much food. A pig thrive really best about being a pig, so when given the chance. Then it will return to the mud. So also with Hanvold minded. They will live in shame and hide behind their religion!
It is perceived as strange this with TOSKO. Very good preaching, but anyway!
Should some new believers who were divorced when they were saved, which really allowed to marry again be their image externally?
When someone being interviewed there from, then it's at least this coming forward.
But these leaders today that Jan Hanvold, Jan Aage Torp, Jan Eriksen and many, many others will be allowed to ravage, retain and whore just like it suits them!
No, no and again a no! For a spiritual condition it's been, Sodom and Gomorrah in the church, everything is now permitted. In other words, these false shepherds shall be taken into account.
They should be allowed to live out their desires, there are so sorry for them. This is a great deception. Of course, no lustful enticements, least of pastors, priests, managers and others with responsibility in the church of God!
Should they not be a pattern to the flock - role models? It is strange, it is a reality that we are experiencing? Could it be as bad as it has been?
Unfortunately, it has become Laodicea congregation. Where a think and believe about themselves that everything is changing, but the reality is that it's so bad it's possible to be ?!
Joh. Obvious. 3. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich and have abundance need of nothing, and knowest not that thou art wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked,