mandag 18. april 2016
No. 1181: I receive many instant messaging and other against me because I point out that remarriage is sin for believers!
I receive many instant messaging and other against me because I point out that remarriage is sin for believers!
I wrote an article:
What is so strange is that I get feedback where I THAT IS THE PROBLEM WHICH SAYS WHAT GOD'S WORD SAYS!
BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT ME, BUT THEY THAT MAY VIOLATE JESUS BUD playing husband and wife JAN KAARE AND INGER HANVOLD AND ALL OTHER THAT IS MARRIED TO BELIEVERS!
Of course I have things to correct in my life, it only makes sense, I'm not God but a human being!
How and what is needed for God to awaken the faithful that remarriage is sin? And remarriage is adultery?
We know that many believers believe what happened at the government building and Utøya in 2011 was a judgment of God on the left in Norway due their hateful relationship with God's own peculiar people the Jews. Yes, there is much to suggest it!
But what about us believers? What is needed there? If God judge and do such things?
I do not know, but have begun to pray and think it over. What is needed? Pr. Today I do not know, but that we will sooner or later be held accountable for our sins, it is obvious and certainly, here comes no outside!
Here's something I answered your blog:
Anonymous writing: "You who writes abominations can not possibly have met Jesus. The only thing you have encountered is yourself, a cowardly sake! You live in a delusion, but it will discover. "
It is you who live in deception, sake and have not met Jesus!
I listen to Inger Hanvold, seeing how she lives!
That she say on Radio 107.7 in Oslo that she needs to meet the living Jesus!
I'm sitting this in an article and hear so much bad against me shows just how Satan and his demons do not stand to hear the truth!
Inger Hanvold living with a divorced man, and when scripture says that she lives in adultery.
Luke 16 18 Whosoever shall put away his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.
Room. 7. 2 The married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as he lives; but if her husband dies, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 Therefore she called an adulteress if she, while her husband lives, marries another man; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress if she marries another man.
That she then need to meet the living Jesus, that's probably exactly right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regarding Jan Hanvold the writing as clear, whether he will live solitary, which I believe is the best in his case. Or reconcile with his first and rightly wife Berit.
1 Cor. 7. 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not divorce his husband; 11 but divorced him, then abiding she being unmarried or reconciled with her husband - and a husband should not divorce his wife.
Please, do not write shit about me! For that, you have no reason when I hold out only the word of God and Jesus commanded us believers!
Do not think I've misunderstood.
I met Jesus 35 years ago and it has kept.
Inger Hanvold fornicators.
Correct, she needs to meet whoever she claims she has not met!
An article I wrote about the couple Hanvold sin:
The cardinal sin of Pastor Jan Hanvold is that he is himself guilty of two adultery and was "married" for the third time!
You write a lot about the Vision Norway and Pastor Jan Hanvold. But you write sometimes so much that it is the cardinal sin of Pastor Jan Hanvold that he is himself guilty of two adultery and "married" for the third time, it will be gone. Then everything else he does, preaches and what it needed to be also be wrong. Otherwise, stand on brotherly and God's blessing upon you and yours. Do not you agree in what I write?
What Hanvold himself said on Radio 107.7 in Oslo several times is that you write that he himself is responsible for his two adultery and he failed and would live solitary as God's word says. Totally agree with you. He will be supported out of the church scripture says and handed over to Satan so that he shall, if possible could go itself! Picture that Satan is behind Hanvold and to which he belongs and serve by virtue of their sinful life and hideous theology. And those who in one way or another stand with him to share in his sin and come in ledertog with demons to a greater or lesser extent. So serious is this, Hanvold and Vision Norway is like a malignant tumor that makes bigger and bigger damage for which it spreads and can live on without being removed
Jan and Inger Hanvold do not live as married by God's word, but as cohabitants. It's like living in adultery, it means nothing to "confess" their sins, but one repents 180 degrees. It is to repent giving and grants us forgiveness of sins!
I remember that there were those who said that Hanvold was "innocent" and therefore he can remarry. But here is one that also says it even something we all know that he is guilty of two adultery. What? Since liver both he and his "new" wife of adultery when she - Inger - is married to a divorced. They make both sin to death and sets itself without passing God's grace. And they will drag others in their wild helpful way that does the same and vouching for them and their work!
The eyes of Inger look demonic and unhappy, as if she goes on anything. What she "goes" on Satan intoxication scripture says why do they also his will.
2Tim 2:26 and wake again from his wine in the devil's snare, having been captured by him to do his will. 1 Timothy 5:15 For already some having turned back after Satan.
It's true what you write Agnar that here it is a cardinal sin that makes everything else also becomes incorrect. Whether it is "right" preaching, assistance or TV broadcasts. Scripture teaches the same:
1 Cor. 13. 1. If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love, I am become sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give away to feed others all my goods, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
Dear Agnar and the rest of you who are reading this.
That's exactly right as you enter Agnar, Hanvold main sin is that he lives in adultery. Is remarried for the third time as a Christian and blame themselves in their two adultery after what he said in public!
It helps nothing to make aid work, TV work, preaching, Bible and what it had to be if one lives in blatant adultery and sin by the font - the New Testament.
Sorry not my focus has always been there. That Hanvold can never do anything right for God and man. It says so clearly in the word of God in 1 Cor. 13. (freely translated) 1 If I speak in human and angelic tongues but is remarried as a believer, I am sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but is remarried as a Christian, I am nothing. 3 And if I give away to feed others all my goods, and though I give my body to be burned, but do not live with first and rightly wife, it profits me nothing. (Freely translated but fully consistent with Scripture).
I think of my own life Agnar, I lived opposite one Hanvold. But there are quite so many who write to me that I should go in myself, etc. I truly believe it's miss. It is Hanvold and the living in sin that must go in themselves first and foremost, not us.
What does God's word about divorce and remarriage of believers? Want to bring a Chronicle of the day 06.06.01 Dag Rune Lid
Cohabitation, divorce and remarriage in the Bible light
Divorce statistics show that there are a total of 10,000 couples who divorced last year in Norway. It is an unimaginable number and it is painful to think of all the trouble this creates for many of those involved - especially children. It appears that one of the devil's seductive attack in this final time is to destroy homes, and thus ruin because the cells in the structure of society. The result is that society disintegrates.
The devil knows how dangerous a Christian home is. They can be as small beacon in a dark world, therefore attacked these now from all sides and it feels too much distress in this area within the Christian people. Now we read in the media that "It's like stopper has come loose in Christian contexts; it's been okay for Christians stand. "and when it speaks of cohabitation so it becomes easy featured in round formulations not to offend anyone. But that does not speak the Bible, and it distresses we as Christian people to pause for.
The older preachers talked about people being like preaching is. When the shepherds no longer say what the Bible known speeches, then we must also experience the Bible that like a sore one should also reap. When the Bible speaks about the reason for what we are now experiencing in our people as God speaks to his people, saying: "You are salt of the earth! But if the salt loses its savor, wherewith shall it be salted? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. "(Matthew 5:13)
A true Christian can not compromise with the Bible, then it will also be on a collision course with who one day will judge the living and the dead. Lord Jesus is one with his Word and he is yesterday and today the same. The question then becomes important for those who intend to heaven is: What word of God says about these topics?
Cohabitation - marriage
Today cohabitation widely accepted in the people - from the top of the social ladder and placed in the "Christian" ranks, but Bible cohabitation as adultery and says that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6: 9; 7: 2 and 1 Thessalonians 4: 2-5.)
God wanted man well and instituted the lifelong marriage as the framework of the love between man and woman. (Mark 10: 7 and Ephesians 5:31) The importance of this is reflected by the fact that the Lord took this up with the 6th commandment says "Thou shalt not commit adultery," or that it can also be translated: "Thou shalt not commit adultery . "
There are some basic principles in everything that the Bible speaks about marriage. There are things that are immutable, they belong to the creation order. God emphasizes this when he says in 1M 2:24 "Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother and cleave unto his wife and they shall become one flesh."
Jesus also refers to this when he speaks of marriage in Food. 19: 3 ff. Spouses shall become one flesh and jointly share the joys and sorrows that this entails.
Bible puts marriage into a social and legal context. In the word of 1M 2:24 says that "man shall leave his father and his mother." This means that he runs from a legal and social context and into another, where it is clear to everyone that these two by marriage have formed a new unit that will last a lifetime.
Out of God's word will not help out a legally binding confirmation that the marriage is concluded. The Bible has no recipe for how a marriage shall be entered into. Society's arrangements for the marriage is valid, if they do not violate God's word. The important thing to emphasize is that marriage is a legal change of lifelong relationship status carried out in full transparency and confirmed by the couple, their parents and the authorities. For a Christian, it is natural that marriage also entered into under God's word and prayer. A cohabitation lacks any biblical foundation. It is built on subjective feelings and private decisions. Cohabitation is a lack of willingness to take a decision of the lifelong nature and a desire to live together sexually without taking on the commitment of the Bible relates to such unions.
The Bible says that divorce is against God's will. Jesus says in Matthew 19: 4-6: "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, Therefore shall a man leave father and mother and cleave to his wife, and the two shall be one flesh? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate. "See also Mark 10: 6-9, Luke 16:18; 1 Corinthians 7: 10-11.
The New Testament has two specific exceptions where divorce is not a sin. The one exception is found in Matthew 5:32 "But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife for any reason other than fornication, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. "The second exception is discussed in 1 Corinthians 7: 12-16. Here is what an unbelieving spouse who demand a divorce if the other does not want to enter the Christian faith. Other exceptions are not mentioned in the New Testament.
The Bible also speaks clearly in this case. In Luke 4:18 p.m. reads: "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery. And whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. "Jesus' words in Mark 10: 11-12 is not to misunderstand:" Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, is guilty of adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she committeth adultery. "
Paul writes as clear in 1 Corinthians 7: 10-11: "And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord: A wife must not separate from her husband. However, she is separated from him, she should either remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. '
We note that Paul refers to a decree from the Lord. It is given only two options for the divorced wife, to remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. The theory that the innocent party may remarry after a divorce based on Matthew 19: 9 where Jesus says, "But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife for any reason other than fornication, and shall marry another doth commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. "
Out of this is believed to have coverage for a man who is separated from his wife because she has committed adultery, may remarry. But such an interpretation violates the parallel Bible verses quoted above. True biblical interpretation has always been the guiding star that the clear words must illuminate the less clear, and in this case it is more clear Bible verse that goes against remarriage.
Train up a child
The Bible says in Word 22: 6: "Train up a child in the way he should go: So shy he is not from it when he grows old. "Scripture emphasizes that it is important to teach the young. We believe that in our time is particularly important in this context, for when specific situations arise with their own children, in family and between friends, it becomes far more difficult to take this up if not before been disclosed.
How society has become de-Christianized through the last 20-30 years, many have run up in very difficult situations humanly and requires both love, care and confidence in the counselor who will try to guide out from God's word. One will surely experience the need for the help that the Bible assigns in James 1: 5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God - for God giveth to all men liberally and without reproach - and he will get it."
Also in these areas in life it is reparation and forgiveness to get for those who repent and recognize sin as sin. God says so nice in Isaiah 1: 18-19: "Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow, though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."
But forgiveness and grace can never be used as plaster on syndesår, without settlements and repentance from sin. Today we are experiencing that grace used to, but it is not biblical tale. That's what the ancients called to "sin of grace." No, let us listen to the biblical tale and live as God intended for his people. There is a difference between falling into sin and for life contrary to God's word. When we live in sin!
And do not forget that God wants you only the best: "I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord. Thoughts of peace and not of evil. I'll give you a future and a hope. "(Jer 29:11) The best thing for any human being for life by the commandments of God and the will and let the Word judge sin as sin. Whoever does it will experience the same as David - "And you took away my sins." (Psalm 32: 5)
Agnar and you who have read this article, I hope there has come to know what I would have said. That Hanvold is by writing a person to be supported out of the church and the Christian community. It speaks writing about. Why? Because he has not repented of his sin. It helps little to confess their sin, as long as one does not repent of it.
1 Corinthians 5. 1. On the whole, it sounds about fornication among you, and such fornication as is not even among the Gentiles, that one is joined to his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath done this, 4 he shall our Lord Jesus Christ, giving and my spirit, with our Lord Jesus power, 5 to deliver such one to Satan for destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the Lord Jesus. 6 It is not smukt what I boast of. Know ye not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened for our passover is sacrificed for us: Christ. 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with malice and wickedness, but with sincerity and truth unleavened bread! 9 I wrote to you in my letter that I should not with fornicators - 10 I did not altogether with the fornicators of this world or with the covetous and extortioners, or idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world; 11 but what I wrote to you was that you should not associate with anyone who is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or robber, not even to eat with him. 12 For what have I to do with judging those outside? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Put away the evil from among yourselves
What is meant by this? Yes, when a living as Hanvold making or other obvious sins shall he be denied access to the church. Not having the opportunity to participate in the Christian community, and not take part in the sacrament. Before he could go in themselves and do not infect the Christian community. This is the biblical way and the New Testament teachings even though the opposite is practiced and enforced today, so this is what God's word teaches!
Bring to end an article by Jan Johansson about church discipline:
Assembly Discipline or church discipline - or as it is usually called earlier, church discipline - it is quite silent about today. In many quarters it is hardly practiced either. And it is a serious matter. Many believe enough - with a hint of truth - that it belongs to the past of the Christian Church's history, a judicial and loveless age. Like everything else has assuredly also forsamlingstukten been abused and thus caused great damage. The greater the blessing, the greater curse when something misused.
But just used is assembly discipline a priceless blessing. Therefore, it should be about making for everyone that it again being practiced where it is not now the case.
But here we hasten slowly. No human being is in itself capable to exercise assembly instruction. Done it with such a basis, it will mostly cause damage. It can either be by unloving judgmental or by following the so-called "Christians" opinion and let people continue to live in sin. Therefore, we must be cautious about trying to organize front assembly instruction. It can not organize, but emerges in which the spiritual life is fresh. For true assembly discipline is nothing but pastoral care from beginning to end. So we all need to turn to our "souls Shepherd and Bishop" (1 Peter 2.25) that he can provide for our own souls. Here we can also awakened to care for the souls of our brethren, and be filled with Christ's love, wisdom and zeal. This is required for forsamlingstukten might work. Furthermore, we should remember that the assembly instruction causes pain. It's not just the false when one goes judgmental forward in human power, but also the real, where people led by the Holy Spirit to work through to try to show the way it has come on the wrong track. Nothing good is born without pain. It applies to the giving birth as well as for the offspring.
But when this painful work being carried out with the love of Christ as the driving force, comes the spiritual brotherhood band to be strengthened. Nowhere are they so strong that there wires to the suffering and sacrificial love are intertwined.
Assembly Discipline in practice
We begin by reading in 1 Corinthians 5.1 to 8: "On the whole it sounds about fornication among you, and such fornication which is not even named among the Gentiles: that a man lives with his father's wife. And you are inflated! should not you rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you? I, as absent in body but present in spirit, I have already - as if I was with you - concerning him who has done this. in our Lord Jesus Christ shall ye and my spirit of our Lord Jesus' power, that he has sinned shall be delivered unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the Lord Jesus. it fit, allowing you commend you! Know ye not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are are unleavened. For our passover is sacrificed for Christ. so let's keep feast, not with old leaven, not with evil and cargo leaven, but with sincerity and truth unleavened bread! " We must also take some words from Matthew 18.15 to 18: "But if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, he and you alone. If he listens to you, you have won your brother. But hear he did not, so take with you one or two others, so that every matter may be established by two or three witnesses. But he will not listen to them, tell it to the church. If he listens nor the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector! Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. "
A double aim
Assembly Discipline has a double purpose. First and foremost it is important to preserve the individual who is caught in sin yarn, "that his spirit may be saved in the Lord Jesus today." But it also applies to preserve assembly clean "cleanse out the old leaven". In this way chastisement be the revival and warning for the others in the meeting.
It is important that both sides with. If the premier driving force and purpose is to preserve Assembly, is lacking the most important - the care of the individual soul. Instead orients you in saving what is left of the assembly. But what use is it to be in a "pure" assembly if there is no real pastoral care there? Publicans and sinners will hardly find their spiritual home in such meetings. But Jesus is the welcome!
He has hjärta för de arma, gärna wild himself took pity. Nobody can, nobody has such a ömmt heart for you so that he.
Therefore, the care of the individual soul come first. The aim should be that "his spirit may be saved in the Lord Jesus Christ." When we see Jesus' teaching in Matthew 18 - which underlies what Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 5 - that decision banning not have to be made in a convenient way by a few people. It is a matter concerning the whole assembly.
But before it gets that far, the fallen get repeated opportunities to repent and be forgiven for his sin. First, the person who has learned to sin, consult and try to win them. Note the wording: "If he listens to you, you have won your brother" (v 15). This applies all the time to try to win his brother! Not to trap or exclude. No, he must be won back to the Savior in confession and forgiveness. Assembly mission is the gathering people to Jesus, and then have no difficulty saved. Hear he is not on one person, one should bring one or two more. But not only that. He hears nor on them, this should be an issue that becomes a hardship for the entire meeting. Is it so bad that he will not listen to the assembly rather, it remains no other solution than to exclude him from the meeting. But it should not take place until now - after repeated attempts to win him back to the Savior. The case must not come to a halt in a kind of imaginary kindness, so that one refrains from taking any measures against the impenitent.
Lest the old leaven soon to permeate the whole assembly. As an example we can think of a couple cohabiting youngsters. If, in spite of repeated calls, according to Matthew 18, still continues to defend and live their lives in sin, and are not excluded from the meeting, comes their example to send a number of harmful signals inside and outside the meeting.
Outside Assembly sees the world's children that Christians are no longer taking it so carefully to God's word. Salt loses its savor. Within the assembly, those terms, easy to settle down and think that they still belong to the kingdom of God, even though they are living in open sin. Others who might be tempted to the same sin, perceives it so it does not matter. They can, so we can ...
Another of the Assembly may have the propensity to another sin. But if cohabiting are not subject to assembly instruction, can not shut meeting him either out. Thus the one who defends his sin by referring to the example of others. Leaven spreads! And increasing numbers of ports on the broad road that leads to hell. Therefore forsamlingstukten so important - and so blessed. Directly applied to the salvage many from perdition.
But it is not too hard to exclude a person from the audience?
It may seem so. But it is much harder - and can not be compared - allowing a living in open sin and defends it, shall continue in the assembly and so one day be banned from heaven. It gets much, much worse. It is much better to be excluded from the meeting on the ground and really be faced with the choice of sin or God's friendship, and hopefully choose the latter - and be saved.
Assembly Discipline seems vitalizing
Unless this mutual care of souls exist, both fraternal admonition and assembly instruction is resolved, there can be all sorts of sins occur without being prosecuted. Therefore, it seems forsamlingstukten together with the mutual exhortation provoking the meeting. Imagine yourself that you have learned that a brother in the congregation living in sin that he neither regrets or will forego. There is now your responsibility to speak with him "under four eyes". If you are in any way realize the responsibility and seriousness of this exercise, you're going primarily to rummage yourself in prayer understand the Word if you are capable of this. They may one unsettled sin which you have long tried to suppress, are so blistering that you know that you have to speak out with the Savior of it before you can go and admonish your brother. The beam has to go! And then ask the Savior for mercy and forgiveness, and to let go of it - and certainly he hears you!
Now do it the simply not be such that you have a score to settle sin on your conscience. But it is in any case a special occasion for self-examination understand the mercy seat, and it is very useful for every one. You've been in counseling with the Lord, and can safely with his help getting admonish your brother. Think so big! You are solely been dragged closer to the Savior and have received see even more clearly how important it is not sin leaven will ferment up. And you've probably also got a dose of humility faced with the task by the Lord has got to show you something of your own sin and weakness. Then you are unlikely to meet the erring with Pharisaic cold, but instead either heat or burn him with Christ love fire. It depends on how it is received.
If it so happens that your brother does not listen to you, for Jesus' teaching to bring you a couple more. Then these two go through the same self-examination before they can accompany you - and so goes the Lord's work on the heart and assembly. It is to "keep a feast ... with sincerity and truth unleavened bread." "Forman another daily, while it is called today, lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin" (Hebrews 3:13). "For our passover is sacrificed for Christ"
(1 Cor 5,7).
As there everything's overall goal is to salvage the one caught in sin yarn must never ban regarded as the ultimate objective. It is only a means to endeavor to get our brother / sister to be resumed in full fellowship both with the Lord and with the assembly. It is very important that the person being subject to assembly instruction, you have this in mind.
The aim is certainly not to "get rid of" competent, but to save him from eternal damnation. In closing, we take a word from 2 Corinthians 2.6 to 8, which teaches us how the penitent and grieve over their sin, shall be met: "For him it comes, it is enough with the punishment he has received the most. Now you instead rather forgive and comfort him, lest he will perish even greater sorrow. Therefore I ask you: be agreed to show him love. "
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