lørdag 18. mai 2013

Nr. 503: Can Hanvold in adultery get answers to prayer? Or others who do not live according to Scripture? Does the word of God an answer?

Nr. 503:
Can Hanvold in adultery get answers to prayer? Or others who do not live according to Scripture? Does the word of God an answer?


Thank you for a very good answer regarding advice about how "married couple" Jan and Inger Hanvold to live. But I have a very important and tricky question. Can Hanvold fornicators receive answers to prayer, then God? Or others who do not live according to Scripture? Does the word of God an answer? Thanks for the answers in advance.

Agnar P

There are many examples in Scripture that there are people who have both received answers to prayer and come to prophesy without having lived right with God. King Saul is one such example that came to prophesy. David had to play the harp for him so that the evil spirits departed from him.

Jesus himself describes those who believed in signs and wonders, but that did not follow him as false prophets!

If we read Sermon on the Mount, we see that Jesus shares the closest in two to live a life in accordance with His will. To experience the signs and wonders that one thing, and living with the fruit of the Spirit as another thing. Does it work right, so live than in both.

The false prophets will rise up for Jesus and praise themselves for having done both the one and the other. And Jesus refutes them for it. But he refutes them for not lived that he requires of all believers. They had lived in lawlessness, but experienced below. It is the old problem of the gifts and fruit of the Spirit are two different things that unfortunately do not always go hand in hand.

Matt. 7 21 "Not everyone who says 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Heavenly Father. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and we have not driven out demons in Your name done many wonderful works?' 23 And then will I declare to them, : You have never known me. Depart from me, you who are doing lawlessness. "

Notice that the Lord says to Jesus, but he will not acknowledge them.

When Hanvold experiencing both the one and the other, it is by no means a sign that God is with him when he did not practice in his own life, not least his own family. First, he was married to a Norwegian, so from a Communist country that he was' aid worker, also for women. It is so obscene and sickening the life he has led. And now he's married to Inger who is twenty years younger than himself, this is not only untrue, but also obscene that a divorced man marries a girl who is twenty years younger, but enough about that.

Paul speaks of that it is possible to give everything, but not liver than in accordance with the scriptures profiteth nothing.

1 Cor. 13th 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give to feed the poor all that I possess, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

What are we talking about? A life where we walk with God, or where we "exploit" him.

This can be tricky, but there is talk that there are spiritual laws and other things that may look like function separated about how we live. This should cause us all to wake up! God is good, so he lets his sun to rise on the good and evil.

God not only gives blessings to people who are good. It's in the Bible, Matthew 5:45-46, TLB. "For he makes his sun rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. If you love those who love you, what reward have ye? Do not tax collectors do the same? "

So to have God's "blessing" and getting answers to prayer tells more about that God is good than if it is blessed!

We also have many other passages of this. Moses experienced during even though he did not obey God. Antichrist and those who have His Spirit to experience signs and wonders. The false prophets like Balaam experienced not only during, but to speak the prophetic influence. King Saul was a renegade came under prophetic influence. We have very many examples of this in Scripture. I can not comment on this much more, but I take the story and write some more in another article I will write.

Why then Hanvold "success"?

There are many reasons for sure, but the main reason is that God's people are not living according to God's word and God's word fronts either to themselves or others!

I have had several disputes with the so-called Christian newspapers why they do not write about such divorce and remarriage among believers, and particularly preachers. All that one will not!

Examples Jan Eriksen, Jan Hagen Jornstrand, Leif Holstad and other former substance abusers.

I know many who have lived a life of drugs and other things. They love children, spouse and other behind him. That way they associate themselves with Hanvold both proven and unproven. After all, the former smarting users and enough feel that they are in the same "boat". So it turns out that there are many times that having lived a clean life, even before you are saved is preferable to many of these. Now I know that God forgives also what happens before one becomes a Christian, but that one of the reasons for Hanvold have "progress" is that former addicts who Ludvik Karlsen and others have been good for him. The saying goes that "like a feather flock together."

Why support the "normal" people Hanvold Arvid Bentsen, Emanuel Minos, David Ostby and others? They probably know that he is living in sin, so stupid they do not believe me?!

I think there are at least two reasons. They have yielded up the development with regard to apostasy, remarriage and everything else. Secondly, unfortunately almost all families more or less affected by this. Minos children are two wooden signs and one of them is also re-married. It is clear that these things affect one, we are all human. But scripture is crystal clear. Hanvold sexually immoral, it does nothing for soon the entire western population is affected by this, Christians who are not Christians. The Word of God is our guideline for all eternity, nothing else.

Mark 10 11 And he said to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, he makes himself guilty of adultery against her, 12 And if a woman shall put away her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.

1 Cor. 7 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate herself from her husband; 11 but she is separated from him when she abide, being unmarried or be reconciled herself with her husband - and that a man shall put away his wife.

Luke 16 18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.

Here is an excerpt from something I wrote a while back:

This is a complicated and very vast topic, when God is so incredibly good and generous. He causes his sun, blessings and all the best to all be part, even the wicked. But it is a great seriousness behind, everyone should make God the accounting day. Then there is only one thing that matters, if we have Jesus in our hearts and lives right. Everything else does not hold. Our wealth and our "answered prayer" is not necessarily an insurance policy in any way, even if the Bible encourages us to ask and expect answers to prayer.

Those who do iniquity, and even might have experienced signs, wonders and miracles, could be lost

Such preachers as we see today with Todd Bentley, Jan Hanvold, Jan Aage Torp and many, many others live in lawlessness. But they experience something of God and signs, wonders and miracles, only to confusion and deception!

We have many examples in scripture that God has done and what has happened supernatural things with and for people even if they have not lived the right, both in the Old and New Testament I could have taken many, many examples. But for the sake of brevity I include only two, one in GT and from the NT.

4 Numbers 20 7 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak to the rock before their eyes, that it give water; therefore, let the water flow out of the rock for them and give the congregation and their beasts drink. 9 And Moses took the rod from before the LORD, as the LORD had commanded him. 10 And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; Must we bring water for you out of this rock? 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck with his rod rock twice: and they poured the water came out abundantly, and the congregation and their beasts drink. 12 But the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them. God told Moses that he would speak, do not turn on the cape, which is a type of Christ. The first time God spoke to Moses, he should beat, but the second time he was speaking. Jesus would only die once, not repeatedly. But although Moses was disobedient and did contrary to the Lord's command. Then the miracle happened, we read, "then poured the water came out abundantly, and the congregation and their beasts drink." Notice that Moses had to pay the consequences for disobedience, but the miracle happened. That it happens during or under, it does not automatically tell that we have it right or wrong with God. Are we all in overstemmelse with God's word? That is what is critical, nothing else holds for the living God. Ap. gj. 8 8 And there was great joy in that city. 9 But there was a man named Simon, who had given himself a sorcery in the city and bewitched the people of Samaria in the greatest astonishment, as he said himself to be great; 10 whom they all gave heed, from the small and large , they said, He is the power of God which is called Great. 11 And they gave heed to him, because he had long bewitched them with sorceries.

Simon the Wizard could include aircraft and remain suspended in the air. This is from Wikipedia: The actual, known circumstances of Simon's life and work are few, and is characterized by the Church Fathers developed the story about him is archetypal kjetterrolle. Epiphanius represents him in Panarion as the beginning and the root of many decent down the tree that was Gnosticism. According to the apocryphal Acts met Peter the Apostle Peter and Simon the Roman Forum in Rome, where they competed in miracles and magic, Peter won and Simon died when he fled. Myth substance on Simon lived long, and contributed to the Faust myth (end of quote). I believe in, but to follow below, it is misleading. But Scripture speaks of the must obey its teachings, not vice versa. In the end of time will cause many false prophets and messiahs, even Satan should get fire to come down from heaven, and many other supernatural things to happen!

Matt. 24th 24 For false Christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders, so that even the elect would be deceived, if that were possible. (End of quote).

Final comment:

When all tier set about most of today's Christian Norway. The only ones who must "undergo" are homosexual and those who would warn against things, they are extreme and lacking social skills, and other nonsense and nonsense.

Christianity in Norway in such apostate, lukewarm and is God and God's word against that one must be blind to them. But have their eyes directed against Jesus, read and study the Word of God itself. And those who keep the word of God that me and a few others, read and study what they preach and write. Then one live a holy, sweet and wonderful life for God.

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/10/nr-71-emanuel-minos-had-gone-from-being.htm http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/emanuel-minos-and-co-are-like-bileam.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/11/nr-411-we-live-in-time-period-of.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/05/nr-498-inger-and-jan-hanvold-are-pigs.html http://janchristensen.net/index2.php?side=video

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