onsdag 25. april 2012

Nr. 291: A cup of coffee and two with Pastor Jan Aage Torp in Oslo city center!

Nr. 291:

A cup of coffee and two with Pastor Jan Aage Torp in Oslo city center!

Acts 6:19 p.m. So they came to Ephesus, where he also be the other back, and although he went into the synagogue and began talking to the Jews. Acts 17:2 After his custom, Paul went in to them, and for three Sabbaths he held conversation with them from the Scriptures, 1Sam. 18:1 After his conversation with Saul, Jonathan was drawn to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own life. Nothing can replace a good conversation and a good dialogue, it comes at all levels and in all circumstances in life. Marriage, family, work, school, church and wherever it is!

Pastor Jan Aage Torp wanted a conversation with me after we had been really disagree, and I sure had written things that had been hard for him to hear! And what could be better than to talk about this? As I see it, it's one of the largest short supply among us believers that we both calls and makes up between us. We will also meet with those we do not even want to meet, and we want to meet. As I see it, nothing can replace it to meet each other and speak out, even if one is fundamentally disagree. That way we can understand others better and even draw on it and learning. I have yet to regret not talking with people and not just about them.

I have learned that many Christian leaders do not want to meet me if I have criticized them or said something unfavorable about them!

This shows lack of maturity, tolerance and understanding that we all have "their own" beliefs of things. That's how I see it of the utmost importance to talk together and have a conversation about what we both agree and disagree!

Church Community!

Now, I do not intend to turn the church in Smyrna with the Oslo church. I still think the same, one is divorced and re-married so have shown by their lives that should not be the Pastor, Shepherd, teacher or apostle. It says clearly and unambiguously in the pastoral letters that an overseer should be a woman's man, no more! Then any law to interpret God's word and live by his faith and conviction. I am in no way embarrassed or want to compromise my convictions based on the word of God or conscience. But it does matter well and it is both instructive and good to talk and conversation with others, even those we disagree with and that we do not share the same view in all things! God bless Jan Åge and all other people! I knew his mother, Anna Torp when we worked together in Philadelphia publishing house in the late 80's, she was very kind but strict. She had been a missionary in China, Taiwan, Japan and Thailand. I received both praise and criticism there, which I sure did. So it is not at the interpersonal level is always our disagreements, but on what scripture says! I think that it is still separated and re-married to a believer should not be Apostle, Shepherd, teacher or pastor. Here I am unshakable!

This is from my bible comments Colossians Dispenser letter 3 12 You are God's elect, holy and beloved by him. Clothe you, therefore, in compassion, kindness and humility. Take care not even to the right, but you stretch far We did not choose him but he chose us. We are sanctified through the salvation that God accepts us and we are and remain loved by him. Now Paul begins to tell what to wear with, compassion, kindness, humility, have you not even to the right and stretch you far. There were only words appropriate for a Christian. All of this is Jesus our great example, he had these characteristics and descriptions completed. 13 as you bear with one another and forgive one another, if one has nothing to reproach the other. As the Lord has forgiven you, you shall forgive each other. When we look at the Lord's Prayer is a prayer that is directed towards the Father, who art in heaven. And even as we are forgiven so much, we have the ability to forgive each other. But the assumption is that they ask for forgiveness. We must forgive but forgiveness is also based on the confession. And very specifically what is done and the act is bad and sin. But when we must and should forgive and forget that God has forgiven us our sins in Christ Jesus. 14 And above all, clothe yourselves in love, which is the bond that ties together and finisher. Love is Christianity's essence and the only thing that will endure forever. Therefore love is also the largest and most important. Dress us in love from head to toe. Love seems the healing of ourselves. A man full of God's love has the best position to succeed, be healthy and be a servant of God church. Love binds us together as believers in nothing else. It is not only to believe and think alike, but to love and be loved by God and each other. Joh.e.13. 34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another. As I have loved you, do ye love one another. 35 Do you have love for one another, shall all be able to see that you are my disciples. " 15 Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, for it was you called when you were one body. And be thankful! Before, our life, mind, and a trip filled with anxiety but now there is peace. To always be up session for all and all is not worthy of a Christian. There are times we should and must speak out, but it is enforced by necessity. We should not have too strong opinions and views on other people's religion, creed or color. It is God who knows every human being and our focus is not how vulgar and bad faith of the others are. But how big and precious Christ is to us. And be thankful. It is the finest and most natural for a believer, to be grateful! 16 Let the word of Christ have ample space with you, that ye may learn wisdom with and guide one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs, singing for God with a grateful heart. Let the word of Christ have ample space is there, but we can refuse to open up to this as we do it with a door with a handle on the inside. The handle is actually a good or bad conscience. Do we have a good conscience, we experience God's peace, but a bad conscience or even broken loose and we have no peace of God. This is where so much good that it's just to read it with a Sela behind. Variation in song and praise. And again Paul mentions gratitude.

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/02/nr-242-emanuel-minos-co-are-they-with.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/02/nr-239-jan-aage-torp-jan-hanvold-harald.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-165-espen-ottesen.html

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