It is nit-picking to be concerned with whether Jesus is born, created or formed, as long as it is God Yahweh is his origin!
Picture Jesus's resurrection there an Angel "guarding" the grave but Father had already awakened Jesus and he had been given a new and wonderful glorious body that we one day will get, as long as we have faith.
Room. 1 3 It is the gospel of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, come as a human descendant of David, 4 by the Spirit of holiness vindicated as God's mighty Son by the resurrection from the dead.
Joh. 13. 3 Jesus knew that the Father had given all things into his hand and that he was come from God and went to God.
16. 28 I came from the Father and have come into the world. I am leaving the world and going to the Father.
Through several article powerful evidence that Jesus is the only true God, but a created being that we all others. It is only and solely Yahweh God Father Who only hath immortality, and that no one can juxtapose themselves with and when. Even Jesus said that God was bigger than him, but denying than Jesus' own words, so one can also defend the Trinity. This is all really about liberals versus theology. Where the word of God says that Jesus is the firstborn among many brothers etc.
No people are literally children of God - we are all adopted sons and daughters. But God's word says that we are children of God, we shall not believe God that we are his children? Or should we engage with nit-picking and waive adoption?
We are actually as much a child of God who Jesus is, although we are not legitimate children like him. We are all adopted into God's family. Not just that we have adopted, we are also adopted from God's enemy - Satan. Yet scripture says we are BORN AGAIN! HMMM, should not the Trinity contradict God even here, they invent a trinity doctrine which is absolutely absurd and that really no one can understand, why this mystification and this arcane regarding the Trinity.
I wrote this in a previous article that I will bring, illustrating what I here say:
If Jesus is born or created has no significance as the word of God says it's the same thing! Here only confuses than ignoring what's important, that Jesus came forth from God the Father - Yahweh.
Psalm 139. 13 For thou hast possessed my reins:
you knit me together in my mother's womb.
14 I thank you that I am so wondrously made.
During your works are wonderful, I know that well.
15 The bones mine was not hidden from you
when I was made in secret show and woven deeply into the soil.
16 Your eyes saw me when I was a fetus.
All days are written in your book,
they got form before one of them came.
17 Your thoughts, O God, is precious to me,
the sum of them is unimaginable!
There is a huge, huge nonsensical when one is concerned about Jesus are created or born, that cause the same after the word learn.
Is a totally twisted religious as are more concerned with words and expressions, than with what lies behind the words and what they represent. If one says that Jesus is shaped, formed, created, or born, so it cause the same. Jesus came forth from the Father, as he himself said (Joh.e. 16. 28 I came from the Father and have come into the world. I am leaving the world and going to the Father.)
Here reviewing David how he was in the womb and then born.
Notice how David describes everything that happened to him in the womb before he was born.
For thou hast possessed my reins; you knit me in my mother's womb. Furthermore, he writes, wondrously made. Even the bones were not hidden from you when I was made in secret show and woven deeply into the soil.
The Bible describes the new birth and being a creature in the same way. Why a suspended up in if I or others use this about Jesus that he is a creature, or if he is born? There is something totally stupidity of it all, all together it is Yahweh who is behind, it keeps to know.
Joh.e. 3. 3 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he can not see the kingdom of God."
Same experience describes the apostle Paul here: 2 Cor. 5. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ is a new creation. The old has gone, the new has come!
And not only this, here we find the Bible describes the new birth once more: Titus 3 5 He saved us,
not because of our righteousness,
but because he is merciful.
He saved us
the bathroom which regenerates
and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
When the new birth referred to as a bathroom. Thought so wonderful and great that the Bible describes the same issue, just from different angles so that the whole, the diversity and the details will manage and better off!
Final Comment:
Now you can choose either to be difficult, or open up for biblical truths. What is the point of this I here teach, it is that Jesus has a beginning, which Yahweh has not. This is the Bible's clear teaching, that it is only and only God - Yahweh who has no beginning, and immortality. Jesus died, which says that he has something that Yahweh does not have. And who raised him from the dead? Yahweh, not himself, he was dead.
From my commentaries Ephesians 1. 19 and where very His power is with us who believe. With this power and strength
I must say that the term fullness of him who fills all in all, has been the subject of many interpretations. I will not weary you with them. I think the verse must be understood from the parallel in Colossians 2.9 to 10 In him the whole fullness deity bodily present, 10 and in Christ, who is the head of all principalities and powers, you also have taken part in this fullness.
All that Jesus is and has, he has given to the church by the Holy Spirit. We are filled with him. Therefore, the same force that God showed by raise Jesus from the dead, available with us who believe ,!
We believe this? Why complain when we so often over his own impotence? It is not interesting at all. God is able to let his force working through our weakness, yes, just when it seems the strongest!
This is what Paul testifies in 2 Corinthians 12.9. He struggled with a weakness, a thorn in the flesh, and asked to drop it. But God answered: "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is made perfect in weakness." - And then comes the strong words: therefore will I rather glory in my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest in me.
II. How do we get triggered this power between us?
Yes, this is all well and good, but to be honest, we see not so much to this mighty force. Will it be just fine words of a preacher who is paid to say it, or is it experienced reality in our own lives and in our congregation?
I think we have a lot of good with God, but he must be allowed to escape to in our lives.
And he does when we praise, give thanks, pray as Paul does in this paragraph - and when we obey Him.
When we pray that God's word, then we can be certain that we pray in accordance with God's will, and when our prayers are fulfilled.
1. Praise and prayer are inextricably linked.
When we praise and thank God, whether by our words or with our song, either with the good old songs or new choirs, so attention is drawn towards God and opens us for everything he has given us in Christ.
Thank Prayer focuses on who we pray to. The lift our gaze from the problems that can make us discouraged, the problem solver, and then we will be bold.
b. And when we pray, we stretch up our empty hands and welcomes what he wants to give us. In prayerful conversation with God the Holy Spirit to show us what he wants us to do.
c. And so we see that Paul thank God for the church he writes to. Now there was good reason for it, for he had heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, v.16
20 he traveled Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in heaven,
You bear Christ oppstandelskraft in you. Then you share in his resurrection. When Jesus rose from the dead, so we stood up with him, because we are in him. How blessed it is to be in Jesus.
Hugo Odeberg say about our resurrection that it means "the whole human personality restoration of full stature, whereby nothing of what is man himself, is missing in it." In our profession, we say that we believe in the resurrection of the body. We should occur with our whole person, with our personality touch. When Jesus was human, he is human forever. In the same way you should be human in eternity. 1 Cor 15,42.43 speaks of the resurrection: "It is sown is perishable, it occurs in sincerity. It is sown in dishonor, it arises in glory. It is sown in weakness, it occurs in power." 1 Corinthians 15.42 to 43.
"Son of man shall send his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and those who do iniquity. And shall cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like sun in their Father. He who has ears, let him hear! " Matt 13.41 to 43.
But we shall also be spiritual people filled when we shall be like Jesus and the angels. My commentaries Mark 12. 25 For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
When we go into the eternal state and get a new body that Jesus. We will not have children as we get here. The Bible speaks little about our eternal state, but few words we have. One of the best is the apostle Peter.
2. Pet.3. 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
So we conclude by saying that "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and to go through the gates into the city." Rev. 22.14.
21 over all principalities and powers, above all the majesty and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world but also in the coming.
Matthew 28 from verse 18:
"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying: I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth! Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you until the end! "
Power = authority
I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth! What does that mean?
We meet the expression "all power" twice in the Bible:
1 Corinthians 15.24: Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all rule and all authority and power.
Kol 2,10: And in him you have been filled, he who is the head of all rule and authority.
What do you understand by the word power? Imagine a little about, what other words do you think could be replaced here without changing opinion? We have a saying that reads: "It is the power that reigns" With this expression we believe that brute force or psychic powers are what ultimately determine what happens. It comes in the schoolyard, in many homes and in world politics.
Now it is clear that a word in one language is never completely identical to a word in another language. Thus we see that a word can be translated several different in another language, depending on the context in which it is used. So it is with the Bible translations, and we will take a closer look at. For if we are to understand the meaning of words in the Bible, we must look at how the Bible uses the words.
The Greek word translated power in the word of Jesus as the theme is "exusia."
It translates a little different, and I think we should look at some verses that use this word, but the translation is a little different. Let's begin with some verses in Colossians:
For in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers (exusia). All things were created by him and for him. Kol 1,16
And in him you have been filled, he who is the head of all rule and authority. (exusia) Kol 2,10
There are various powers and authorities in both the visible and the invisible world. But over them all come Jesus who created them and who is their head, we read here. In prophecy we read that Jesus would make this power / authority, as in Daniel 7.14:
And there was given him dominion, (exusia) glory and kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages, should serve him. His dominion (exusia) is an everlasting dominion (exusia) which shall not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never perish.
It was a Roman officer who understood this to be granted authority, and stated in connection with his meeting with Jesus:
For I myself am a man under authority (exusia), and I have soldiers under me. I say to one, 'Go! and he goes, and to another, Come! and he comes, and to my servant, Do this! he does it. Mt 8.9
Jesus has all power, all authority. It is not something he has robbed to him, or something he in any unlawfully has acquired. No, he has been given all authority in heaven and on earth as we have read. Jesus also is under a higher authority, namely the Father himself. And he has not gotten his authority for his own part, empowerment and authority assigned always for a purpose:
As thou hast given him power (exusia) over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to all whom you have given him. Jn 17,2
Therefore hear the word about att Jesus is given all power so closely connected with the Great Commission or dåpsbefalingen as we call it. It is he who is appointed by the highest authority who calls his people to bet.
Many have doubted that he really has this authority to forgive sins. We remember how it was back then some men tore open the roof to four his lame friend down to Jesus. When he forgave the paralyzed man his sin. The scribes thought inwardly that this was blasphemy, for no one but God had authority to forgive sin. But when Jesus answered their thoughts by saying:
But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins Mrk 2.10
And so he healed the lame man right before their eyes as proof that he had the authority both to forgive sins and heal the sick.
Jesus has already done the main job so we can read it in Colossians:
He disarmed the principalities and powers (exusia) and asked them openly, as he proved triumphing over them in it. Kol 2,15
Wherefore fact that we have been granted authority / power to become children of God in John 1.12.
Jesus calls his friends to a victorious battle where the outcome is already known. But here queried by faithfulness and obedience to Christ, the head and the very highest authority. He who calls you is the same as that gave the disciples the authority both to:
Have power (exusia) to heal diseases and cast out demons: Mrk 3.15
We can basically advantageously learn of the Pharisees and scribes in their encounter with Jesus. They asked him by what authority he healed and forgave sin. (NB 11.33) Where he had been authorized to do it from. They were right in that there were only two options: either it was with authority and authority of God, or else it was with authority from Satan that he did this. The sad thing was that they were not willing to take the consequences of what they must have realized on the basis of their knowledge of the Bible, that Jesus had to have his authority from God himself.
There are many different principalities and powers in the human sandbox. But in the real world there are mentioned two power spheres reflecting that there are two kingdoms. And we are not talking about nations or powers in the ordinary sense, but the darkness and the kingdom of light:
He is the one who rescued us from the power of darkness (exusia) and brought us into his dear Son. Col. 1.13
It's known to us, but what is perhaps not so well known is that Satan also authorized. Now he mostly tried to rob them of power and authority as the great lies and phoney he is. But it is strange that, when people bow down to him, so they give him power and authority even if he should not have had it!
These have one mind, and their own power and the power they give to the animal. Rev. 17.13
Therefore Satan when he tempts Jesus say:
To you I will give all this authority and their glory. For me it has been given, and I give it to whomever I want. Lk 4,6
Otherwise we recall from the Old Testament that God allowed Satan to afflict Job, he was awarded the power and authority.
When Jesus was captured and crucifixion, it was an interesting conversation between him and Pilate. Pilate, Jesus reminds that he has the power to crucify him or set him free. Jesus answered:
You would have no power over me if it were not given you from above. Jn 19.11
Although Pilate by human reasoning was right, as he demonstrated how we think in our human sphere. We have our power structures, but forget that there is a higher power outside ourselves that has the final say.
So one could Saul travel around with authority from the chief priests to throw Christians in jail, but found that he stood over the high priests would use him for something completely different. Thus he writes in his letter to the Romans about the potter who is lord (exusia) over the camp. And we remember the words of the prophet Jeremiah who tells us about the Master who has the authority to reprogram us so he will.
Precisely because sin is to go beyond their jurisdiction, to disobey God and His instructions, also belongs power and strength with power and authority.
Short one can say that Jesus has exusia, authority and thereby also the power and strength that allows him to carry out what he says. When he drives out demons he does it with "exusia" and "dynamis," with authority and power (Luke 4.36). The first word we have already talked about, secondly, we know from the word dynamite. But this is more powerful cases of dynamite has no power to do anything about Satan and his servants. When we read in the Gospels about the miracles Jesus did, so is the dynamis deeds.
And this force, dynamis, is because God Himself is dynamis, and Jesus will sit at the right hand. Mtt 26.64
Therefore, Jesus not only with authority but also with power from on high. The same "exusia" and "dynamis" he gave to his disciples:
He called together the twelve and gave them power (dynamis) and authority (eksusia) over all devils, and to cure diseases. Lk 9.1
That does not mean we always can take authority over diseases such individual claims. For Jesus could with authority to heal the sick in their own name. We must do it in his name by asking him to do it. We can not command him standing over us! It has no authority.
But we read about the first Christian martyr, Stephen, that he was full of grace and power, dynamis. And we read in Acts that the disciples did miracles. Paul writes more about this in 1 Corinthians 12.29 where he emphasizes that this is grace fitting for service where God equips some such and other such. God's "dynamis" hear words with even today.
What kind of power and power is what Jesus received? It is the power that the United States show in the Persian Gulf or youth gangs show with a knife or other weapon?
No, this question here considerably stronger than matters such pusleri. But we should understand that, we must learn to think differently. We must learn to look at the universe in a different way than the radio, TV and newspapers do.
That's about as Elisha and the servant who saw an army come to take Elisha prisoner, and where the server was terrified and desperate. But God opened his eyes to the boy so he could see and what he saw:
the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.
But how did God saw this over power? Came to fight there on the mountain? Yes, it did, but in a completely different way: God smote them with blindness so that they do not recognize him. Then he led them to Samaria where they got their eyes opened when they were surrounded by the army of Israel. They escaped with humiliation, and God defended his prophet.
God's power / power manifests itself in a different way than the human.
We think based on what we see and experience on a daily basis. Maybe it can help in the understanding to compare the difference between animals and humans. The animals know nothing of armed force, and then either nothing to line up with the guns. The finding that there is a stronger power, but they do not understand what it is like. Something similar is the relationship between humans and the spiritual world. Here we meet forces beyond our control with. But there are also forces acting on an entirely different way than what we are used to.
We see this clearly through biblical history as in the example of Elisha. But we read through the Bible we see all the way that it is as follows:
We remember the Israelites who won when Moses kept his arms raised (in prayer) but lost when the arms sank. (2.Mos 17.10 to 11)
Gideon won with so few men that there could be no doubt that it was a completely different force that gave victory.
The siege of Samaria where the entire enemy army fled from all over the neck and head, and enemy army around Jerusalem who hastily returned home.
Calvary, is probably the strongest, where God chooses suffering and death to save us! It is so obvious that here it is quite different weapons of war than the people put their trust. And we are called to be followed also in this.
and how overwhelming greatness of his power (dynamis) is for us who believe, by the working of his mighty power. It was this he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in heaven above all principality and power (exusia), of all might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in the coming. Ephesians 1.19 to 21
Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all rule and all authority (exusia) and power. (dynamis) 1 Corinthians 15.24
The power of God is stronger than human power, and of an entirely different character. Therefore, it is dangerous when we maketh flesh our arm and trust human power and strength. When we liter of weakness, while we intend to weakness, infirmity, in reality strength. Paul writes bluntly that when he is weak he is strong, "dynamis". And now we come into the midst of the Sunday school work we stand up in, and everything else Christian work for that matter.
Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1099-jesus-greatness-lies-in-his.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/ http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/nr-49-1000-year-kingdom.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-167-israel-selection-current.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/09/nr-372-israel-of-gods-eye.html http://janchristensen.net/bibelkommentar-hoved.php?side=bibelkommentarer-Johannes-aapenbaring
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/12/no-1098-jesus-christ-domination-is.html
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