The
newspaper Our Country refuses and will not take in my response to the Jan
Aage Torp outcomes against me and deicing of God's word where it is legitimate
to be re-married to a Christian!
I wrote:
Ranked. 886: Similarly at Jan Aage Torp accusations against me and the police
rendered in Our Country on Wednesday 1 October 2014!
Photo of
Levi Fragell who wrote about Torp on Facebook to Randi Ingwersen
So wrote
Fragell: What for me is almost incomprehensible is that parts of the Christian
people still invite Torp cooperation (as Sharon valley in summer) after he for
years has violated decency limits on religious practice - for obvious damage
and violation of vulnerable children, young and old. A practice he f. Items.
reviewing the following manner: "" I have driven demons out of people
in Norway and abroad who have waged a battle over several hours or even several
days, with the personified demons that dwells within them. Below are underway
almost a "duel" in spirit, mind and body between God and satan,
angels and demons. My overwhelming experience is that the name of Jesus Christ
creates shock waves in the demonic realms, and they try all expedients to stick
to their 'home' in a human body: rude, debate, hide and seek, fear, rage,
misery - until they finally DO let go. Fråding, barking, shaking, screaming is
just human expression of the war being fought in this man. Following Jesus'
example, I have even commanded the demons to enter the animal near! (poor
animals, hehe ...) Read Mark 5: 1-20. "
The
newspaper said Our Country:
From: John
Morken
Posted: 1st
October 2014 1:49 p.m.
To:
jk.chris@online.no
Subject:
Post about duck Torp
To Jan Kåre
Christensen
Via
colleague Blystad I have been sent a total "equivalent of Jan Aage Torp's
accusations against me."
I thank
therefore no to your post.
best
greetings
John Morken
Debate
Editor
Our Country
My answer:
Okay, well
I have separate blogs and website, the Christian people destroy themselves with
the steps that you post for the day where everything should not be up to the
light, indirectly Christian people no attitude to be open that allows such
things between me and Torp gets in the way as it gets!
Have a nice
nice day!
Jan K
January
Aage Torp has presented his views on remarriage.
Where is
the free-because it is not binding as long as the other party lives.
Look what
he writes Searchlight:
This is not
a convenience standpoint for me. I already devoted divorced in 1985, and has
since devoted 07.08 divorced again. I obtained advice from recognized leaders
in the Pentecostal church who said: "If, after thorough discussions find
that it is right that they get married, then you should marry them. Always take
the strain of standing with people when it's right. Do not wash your hands if
it is right. "The same is said of my missionary parents.
Even then,
the age of 28, I was convinced that remarriage could be right if the divorced
had been rejected by his former spouse, or former spouse had committed
adultery. Other situations have to be considered carefully.
Through 30
years I have held this view and this practice, and I have no regrets.
It is
important to stand up for the Word of God and fellow human beings, regardless
of whether we face criticism.
A pastor
should never choose the convenient way ...
(state
final).
What about
Torp yourself? Torp was scrapped after what he writes, but that was because she
was aware of his barking and manipulation were behind. Who knows, maybe this
had been for some time? And now both Torp and his former wife married at each
edge, in other words. Which one is when the so-called innocent party?
What the
font?
Torp even
now come clean out the disability itself from his standpoint. Now his former
wife remarried, just the same as him. In other words, even after Torp theology
live either in sin. Or is this totally unscriptural interpretation, and the
writing has a whole different teachings and approach?
Scripture
teaches that remarriage is strictly prohibited and marrying a divorced,
likewise. As believers we have a chance, just a chance. And it is only death
that "terminates" a marriage.
What now
with Jan Aage Torp? His theology crack here as both himself and has previously
wife Ann Christin are now both married to each his wing?
Or is
Torp's interpretation completely wrong? Scripture clearly teaches that
remarriage of believers in the New Testament is sin. And to marry a divorcee,
it is also a sin.
Here is
some of what I have written to Torp in Searchlight, but does not Torps
equivalent for it is really a Hoten tottering answer:
God's Word
teaches that after divorce, an either settle or live alone. Here both Jesus and
Paul very clear.
1 Cor. 7 10
The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate
herself from her husband; 11 but divorced him when she abide, being unmarried
or be reconciled herself with her husband - and that a man should not divorce
his wife.
Remarriage
is regarded as adultery or fornication sin by scriptural teachings in the New
Testament.
In other
words, then those who remarries or marries a divorced, "whore goats"
or "whores" to be considered as the possible "new" marriage
is against God's words and teachings of Jesus. Inflected forms are eg. whore
whore man or woman. People are the whore buck and hussy!
Luke 16 18
Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and
whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.
1 Cor. 6 16
Know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body with her? For it
is said: The two shall become one flesh.
Rooms 7 2
For the married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as he liveth; but
if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 Therefore
she is called an adulteress if she, while her husband lives, marries another
man; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so she is not an
adulteress if she marries another man.
Notice the
Scripture expletives "adulteress" and then use the word "whore
buck" on a man is just a popular expression in well-Norwegian for the
same, if the expression is very powerful.
Rune rod
can bend adultery? You will end with man whore or whore woman.
Whore Man
on popular language is whore buck and whore woman hussy!
Although I
like Danish understand it!
Rune rod
you have requested a reply from Torp.
Such great
Apostle who Torp stands over such trivial things as to account for why he can
remarry after divorce with a woman 25 years younger than himself. He's too big,
too big in itself enough!
Do you ever
get an answer from him, that he is too slick to answer enough!
Torp
realize you never make any mistakes or hurting anyone. But the word
"forgive me" you have probably never put on your tongue, yet!
But maybe
one day you will see who you are also in the light of the Word!
It was the
emails you sent to her, and let her name and man on your blog that was more
counterfeit Donald Ducks representation. I still do not know what connection
there is between me and the Christian party, you mentioned me Magnar Tanum or
whatever his name was. No Torp, you are so out running in all areas of life
that I now really think most sorry for you!
Torp has
appeared on the so-called innocent party, and it's so simple. Anyone can flip
and twist and make himself the "innocent" party. Now Torp and his
former wife both married at each edge, then they are both "innocent"?
You know
Barratt wrote a book about divorce and remarriage and the set before the elders
of the Philadelphia thirties but they said it was unbiblical, Barratt and shelved
it.
Then came
the demos on the track and worked its wonders later and the book was published
and the veiled Barratts name and reputation.
The
Christian church / congregation was completely unfamiliar with the so-called
innocent party completely into humanist Rasmus came forward during the
Reformation and talked about this, he was not a Christian. So the source of the
so-called innocent party, it stems from a humanist who were not Christian.
Tragic, but
Scripture says that it should come seducing spirits and doctrines of demons
into the church after the apostles died (Acts 20 29 For I know that after my
departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing herd. 30 Even
among their own will raise up men who go with false doctrine to get ripped
disciples with him).
Torp you
learn and believe in the so-called "innocent" party. Okay, now both
you and your right or former wife re-married, which of the two lives when in an
invalid marriage? You can not both be innocent? I got very often 6 in maths at
school, but here only need a 1 class level to understand that this is not true.
But you are too cowardly to respond? But going with the planing and respect
etc.?
You poor
live enough as a re-married is the popular term for the same. And your current
wife do not live together with their proper husband for what scripture says!
This is a
verb which indicates that this living in the now, not lived or will live.
Both Torp
and his wife is now remarried on each edge. Ergo they live both in adultery
then it can not possibly be that they both are the innocent party. Or is it for
the courses that apply?
Rune Rod
writes:
The Bible
also speaks clearly about remarriage.
Luke 16:18:
"Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery.
Remarriage and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits
adultery. "
Rooms from
7.2 to 3 "For the married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as
he lives. But if her husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband.
Therefore she is called an adulteress if she, while her husband is still alive,
becomes another man's wife. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law
and is no adulteress if she marries another man. "Mark 10,11- 12:"
When they were come into the house, his disciples asked him again about this.
He says to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, is guilty of
adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another,
she committeth adultery. "Paul writes in 1 Corinthians as clear
7.10-11:" And unto the married I command, yet not of myself, but the Lord:
A wife must not separate from her husband. But and if she depart, let her
remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband. And a man should not divorce
his wife. "We note that Paul refers to a word from the Lord. It is given
only two options for the divorced wife, to remain unmarried or be reconciled to
her husband.
innocent
party
The theory
of the innocent party based on Matthew 19, 9, where Jesus says: "But I say
to you, whoever divorces his wife for any reason other than fornication, and
shall marry another, committeth adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman
commits adultery. "This statement is meant to provide cover for a man who
is separated from his wife because she has committed adultery, can remarry. But
such an interpretation violates the parallel verses quoted above. True biblical
interpretation has always been the guiding star that the clear words must
illuminate the less clear, and in this case it is more clear verses that go
against remarriage.
(end of
quote).
Torp you
choose your path
Repentance
and forgiveness of sins are two sides of the same coin!
Scripture
is abundantly clear.
1 Cor. 7.10
to 11. Say it loud and clear that either one should settle or live single. It
is as a single. Then you should have been single if she rejected you. This is
not my doctrine. But what God's word says.
You choose
which side to stand on.
Have a nice
day!
Torp ha-ha!
You are fabricating something all the time to save your own skin.
You are not
"legally" married now!
The rest is
your choice!
I'm
shocked, really shocked January Aage Torp expounding the Word of God in which
he argues that as the spurned can remarry when he is no longer bound to his
wife. One can then simply remove large portions, if not the whole Bible if Torp
exegesis is right and he has the right to enter into a new marriage based on
God's word. What about that man should love the church as Christ loved the
church and gave himself for it. Even when we fail, the Lord loves us. While
Torp condition of love is the opposite than what God's Word teaches and says!
He is, in
other words, Anti Christian, one Antichrist!
He is, in
other words, Anti Christian, one Antichrist!
Scripture
says:
Efes. 5 25
Husbands love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church and gave himself
for it;
Torp said,
she left me, I find a new, younger and more fit! Just as the world's people
live today! Is not this exactly the opposite than what God's word says and how
a scorned husband to act and be? Torp makes himself a Antichrist.
Scripture
says:
1 Jn. b 4.
3b. This is the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and it is already
now in the world.
This is
bad!
My last
comment on the Searchlight:
This is
bad!
Seems you
will wake up to who we face, I believe that I am neither rude, nasty or
"abnormal".
Torp does
exactly the same as Todd Bentley!
Final
Comment:
Even Torp's
theology of the innocent party has now unraveled when both he and his former
madam is re-married on each edge. Ergo, since they both live in adultery since
after what Torp himself says that he was abandoned when she did not like him
anymore.
Torp tried
and managed to psyche the Randi Ingwersen, but now she is back up and sent me a
part that I put out in the end:
This is the
right time and should meet many? Many remarriage ministers here that the Word
speaks right.
The Bible
says that "we must all the more heed to what we have heard, so we do not
drift away from
so .....
how are we to "get away". and not "care about".
These words
should have a bell to ring!
Samson's
downfall was so gradual that he once did not realize that it happened. As easy
as swinging a wand he had become accustomed to tap into God's power and defeat
any enemy and obstacle.
But listen
now ..... But sin and self-indulgence was his mistake. Then Delilah said:
"The
Philistines are upon you, Samson"! awoke from his sleep
and thought
"I'll probably get open and shake myself free, like the other times."
He knew not that the Lord had turned away from him. "Dom 16.20-21 So the
Philistines took him.
When you
ignore God, are you away. Your prayers are not as effective. You no longer have
a godly influence on those around you.
You fall
back into old patterns. You refuse to forgive those who have offended you. You
do not ask for forgiveness from those you have hurt.
You start
to do what is comfortable and that benefit you instead of what is right.
You carry
on attitudes such as fear and anger. You nourish "the old man" while
ignoring the new.
This
indicates the need for a spiritual health check.
Ask God
today to flood illuminate these attitudes, activities and connections that need
to be taken care of and start to weed them out.
The good
news is that when you are obedient to the Word of God and the spiritual
leadership, you get back your spiritual vitality, and God can use you more than
before.
(from Bible
Reading Plan: Psalm 93, Luke 14, Dan 5-6)
Do not give
up, there is something called. And it is indeed possible to win his wife back
.... but this is typical "Pentecostal charismatic" Christians ...
they owe almost always on the other spouse so they just can "be free"
though .... I have seen several decades ...... So embarrassing many do it for
themselves .... live as they please and live as they please but do not mix God
into it and three down from the platform .... not leather other .... and
certainly not about marriage .....
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