lørdag 4. oktober 2014

No. 774: VL claims and others that I say that swinging and remarriage are the same! And people bite without checking the facts! It makes me excited!

No. 774:
VL claims and others that I say that swinging and remarriage are the same! And people bite without checking the facts! It makes me excited!

Levi Fragell now entered this debate, certainly unintentional. But allikvel, Levi Fragell is much better, more spiritually sober and have not come so far in apostasy Torp. But what this is really about, it's really only the Bible-believing Christians who understand when the man is commanded to be as devoted and faithful against his spouse, his wife. As Jesus faced the congregation. Am glad that Torp and Jesus is the himmelvid contrasts to. I've failed him many times. But he is as faithful and affectionate, although I have been unfaithful. Torp In other either a Christian or a role model. However, an adulterer who will not inherit the kingdom of God!
Photo of Ubaydullah Hussain was acquitted of all, although he has publicly supported the killings, beheadings and Isil. Should I be condemned for speaking out in God's Word that Torp living in sin, living in adultery and actively commit adultery today. His wife (s) is all untrue and based on the word of God must Torp be a whore buck, and the well is his Norwegian women tauter. It is a mishmash that God's word warns strongly against!



 

Torp claim today that I have changed on the blog, on the contrary, I write as I always have. All Torp is really ridiculous and nonsense, poor man.

Torp believes that his case is strong. His case is not really believers at all. Yesterday Ubaydullah Hussain acquitted of all, although he has publicly supported the killings, beheadings and Isil. Should I be condemned for speaking out in God's Word that Torp living in sin, living in adultery and actively commit adultery today. His wife (s) is all untrue and based on the word of God must Torp be a whore buck, and the well is his Norwegian women tauter. It is a mishmash that God's word warns strongly against!

I have had some exchange with Fam. Ingwersen is clarifying where we stand. Adding this out here so it may help and blessing!
Me first:
From: jk.chris@online.no
Two: the-ingw@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Jan-Aage Torp on Facebook
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 9:48:20 p.m. 0200
Those who defend Torp is even large re-married as Christians, many more times.

From: johnny Ingwersen [mailto: jo-ingw@hotmail.com]
Posted: 4th October 2014 8:07
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: RE: RE: Jan-Aage Torp on Facebook

Yes yes, I have seen and therefore also believe Torp has support for several of them, Nordvikneset to browse.
Fragell is the humanist and therefore he wants Torp and his wife all the best.

Can not soon pastors / evangelists / remarriage that has a roll to teach others just stop preaching the word of God? So easy ... years they do not speculate I in that it is money that drives them.

Torp comes ingenvei with law review .... you have a good card where they threaten you to pay money .......
I also have a card to Torp, he hung out me and my husband's full name, without even knowing who we are.
Besides, we have no public role.
Torp is hit, that's what he is .... and then he uses very ugly ways to defend themselves.
What he should report you for being the exciting ... you've given him a few home truths that are not consistent with God's word!

But people like him are added ... I know ... they stop at nothing ... they just want to show others and prove himself ...... All you have said is that Torp has no role as pastor because he is married ..... and it's true?
It is he who fool of himself .... Think also how <Torp hung out you and Denise and their children, with your full name in the summer.

It's not you that has made him something wrong, he has turned it. How do people who are not healthy many times .....

Thanks for your support Randi and Johnny.

Torp famille will not see him, his son hates him and has publicly gone out to meet him, because he and Levi Fragell realize Torp must almost be demon possessed?

He is even the main villain, but we have religious freedom and freedom of speech in Norway, so getting such false apostles Torp go free.

I asked him in the spotlight even his theology laddering now, when both he and his former wife Ann Christin are both married, what, who is innocent of the two of you when you're both married - again?

This he could not answer.

Torp will of course want the happiness of humanist Fragell who have successfully hijacked a lady who is 25 years younger than herself and the age of his children. This is an abomination in God's eyes, but in a humanist who, after all, serve Satan, grand!

Berit and Jan K

The starting point for this debate was that Levi Fragell wrote:

Levi Fragell
It is very cruel to a colleague harassed in this way for the same views on marriage and divorce. But is not such perceptions relatively common variants in the church and church? What for me is almost incomprehensible is that parts of the Christian people still invite Torp cooperation (as Sharon valley in summer) after he for years has violated decency limits on religious practice - for obvious damage and violation of vulnerable children, young people and the elderly. A practice he f. Items. reviewing the following manner: "I have driven demons out of people in Norway and abroad who have waged a battle over several hours or even several days, with the personified demons that dwells within them. Here are underway almost a "duel" in spirit, mind and body between God and Satan, angels and demons. My overwhelming experience is that the name of Jesus Christ creates shock waves in the demonic realms, and they try all expedients to stick to its "home" in a human body: rude, debate, hide and seek, fear, rage, misery - until they finally MUST let go. Fråding, barking, shaking, screaming is just human expression of the war being fought in this man. Following Jesus' example, I even commanded the demons to enter the animal near! (Poor animals, hehe ...) Read Mark 5: 1-20. "
2 • Wednesday. 6:14

The newspaper Our Country will still not take in my rebuttal, have been in contact with them, but going nowhere. Read for yourself and consider.
Me first:
From: Jan Kåre Christensen <jk.chris@online.no>
Date: Friday 3rd October 2014 11:00
To: John Morken <johannes.morken@vl.no>
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Post about duck Torp

Hello and good morning John.
Okay you start your day with a lie, for it is there!

I was asked something, and half were misquoted and distorted.

Plus many accusations leveled against me, I got no question. And could clarify this. But Christians are always for himself and acts as besserwissere, do not understand why it should be so?

Here is an erroneous quote:
After I wrote a post I know the Spirit of God anointing. I know God urging me to it. It feels right.
(end of quote).

Here is a very important statement that I have not been given anything similar on:
In a post dated 2 March 2013 Christensen writes that remarriage and gay relationships are regarded as the same as group sex, swinging, zoophilia and pedophilia. He names the more people he claims are doing this.
(end of quote).

I do not make a big deal out of this, but your claims is unfortunately not true in my eyes.

Regards
Jan K Christensen
Hook Path 2 c
0672 Oslo
Tel: 22611610/99598070

From: John Morken [mailto: Johannes.Morken@vl.no]
Posted: 3rd October 2014 11:03
To: Jan Kåre
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Post about duck Torp

If you have any clarification, please send post about it, not long post about American preacher and Magnus Tanem - like you did.
JM

From: Jan Kåre Christensen <jk.chris@online.no>
Date: Friday, 3 October 2014 1:19 p.m.
To: John Morken <johannes.morken@vl.no>
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Post about duck Torp

The newspaper VL had a case on me regarding January Aage Torp who prosecuted me and accuse me too much, which basically lies in his own mistakes and miscalculations. The word of God says is sin or offense!

Realize that you can not record anything, but here is something that is incorrect and misleading. Does not record everything, but only two things.
Here is an erroneous quote:
After I wrote a post I know the Spirit of God anointing. I know God urging me to it. It feels right. (end of quote)
This is not how I said it. I find that God's Spirit working in me, also to exhort and reprove. But please know one not on the way. Joy know one when believers live in daily repentance, purification and renewal. As the apostle John says:
2 Joh.b. 4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we received commandment from the Father.

In a post dated 2 March 2013 Christensen writes that remarriage and gay relationships are regarded as the same as group sex, swinging, zoophilia and pedophilia. He names the more people he claims are doing this.
(end of quote).
Here bearing couplings which are completely out of their proportions, and which is not documented at all. That I know people in the alla kinds of environments and can name them would think when one reads this?
Where is this from? I think that saying that Satan gives a "little finger" that one makes through permissible and accept remarried of believers. So will sooner or later have to open up all kinds of sins or offenses that God's word speaks. One sin begets the other type of sin. It's like a domino effect of it all. It was and is what I have pointed out, not the constraints of VL provides that it shall be!
Recommend others either to go on blogs and our website, where you will find one the correct and appropriate information and formulations that I / we are within its!

Jan K Christensen

From: John Morken [mailto: Johannes.Morken@vl.no]
Posted: 3rd October 2014 3:20 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Post about duck Torp

Hello
Thank you for your email. Dete you enter here provides no basis for anything at all similar.
1 You claim you misquoted in the first point. But you claim that we write you know, "joy". That word is not in the quote in the interview with you, but this is the controversy with the claims you are an equal.
2 The reference and the quote from the blog. March 2013 You have not refuted anything, just assert that something is out of proportions. What it is, is unclear So claims that we argue that "you know". There have not we write. In your blog March 2, enter on the other hand: "When does group sex, swinging, zoophilia and pedophilia in among the believers? Remarriage and homosexual practices are now allowed, the next must be worse sins? "Then you write:" Illustrative image shows what group sex is that having sex with more than one person at the same time. "The only picture in your blog is by Jan Hanvold and a woman.
Two important things in the inflow votes thus not, and I can not object this pressure.

Good weekend

John Morken
Debate Editor
Our Country

Okay John, but the angle and the way it is understood, is totally different when people think that I believe such peripheral sins are the same as remarriage, okay, not surprised.

See here for example. that this is a collusion: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=704972119588775&id=100002279790534

NB! I'm used to such treatment of Christians! So I do not expect anything!

Regards
Jan K

From: John Morken [mailto: Johannes.Morken@vl.no]
Posted: 3rd October 2014 3:36 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Post about duck Torp

Hello
I must interconnectedness me what you write. And what you write I can not use, of the reasons I have mentioned. That you show a picture of Hanvold active in group sex, you need to explain himself - not should on us feilkoplingar.
Good weekend

John Morken
Debate Editor

From: Jan Kåre Christensen <jk.chris@online.no>
Date: Friday, 3 October 2014 3:49 p.m.
To: John Morken <johannes.morken@vl.no>
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Post about duck Torp

Yes, Hanvold are like "little finger" but not as you portray it:


I think that saying that Satan gives a "little finger" that one makes through to allow and accept the remarriage of believers. So will sooner or later have to open up all kinds of sins or offenses that God's word speaks. One sin begets the other type of sin.

You fabricate a lie!

January

From: John Morken [mailto: Johannes.Morken@vl.no]
Posted: 3rd October 2014 3:56 p.m.
To: Jan Kåre Christensen
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Post about duck Torp

You have not proven that we are fabricating lies.
Therefore I set the bar with this.

Johan Morken
Debate Editor
Our Country

Hello John!

Norwegian can not I realize? Or have you not read the text?

I wrote that I took to censored image, and not there should be a gap so I let out Hanvold with his mistress!

Ille not be Norwegian, and read as it is!

Have a lovely lovely weekend!

Writes about you on the blog, this was bad work!
And reproduction in VL leads to misunderstanding! Okay to take with you!

Regards
Jan K

Here is what I think is wrong in the interview:

For John!

- But why write this over and over again in Torp and other Christian leaders?

- All other fails to write about it. For me as a small player, this is the only way to reach out. After I wrote a post I know the Spirit of God anointing. I know God urging me to it. It feels right.

Answer: a type one or more times on one thing, what does it matter?

- Do you get support for the posts you write?

- All that I know supports me fully and believes Torp is totally beyond.

- Is not it strange that you as a pastor then writes bad things about others even if you disagree?

- No, I think not. In the Bible would such as remarried stoned.

Answer: I did not say in the statement. I said after the law of Moses, they stoned but after Calvary, they shall be brought out of the church. But God is the same that sin shall be destroyed by the church!

READ
Difference

When Christensen is confronted with the fact that Jesus did not condemn a woman who had broken out of a marriage, blogger responds that the comparison is wrong.

- Here we are talking about ministers and government ministers. They are role models who are a liability to others.

Answer: The only thing that is well reproduced.

- Is there any limit to what you can say about other people in public without being affected by the law?

- Of course. But first of all I shall relate to God's word.

Answer: And I pointed out that this is a spiritually-related questions with biblical interpretation which we have faith and freedom of expression in Norway. What the world people do, it is an entirely different matter for us Christians.

- What do you hope to accomplish by writing these blog posts?

- That they will wake up and see how serious it is that divorced and re-married preachers are allowed to hold on to.

- Are you as hard against the other sins that are mentioned in the Bible?

- Of course. But there is a difference between living in sin and fall into sin. When people repent, God forgives. If he (Torp) just leave her as he lives now, God forgives.

+ The others I mentioned. That a picture of Hanvold that I had replaced a censored picture and I mention specifically what Hanvold sin is not swinging but he lives with a woman who is not his as he has been married before.

If this is more than good enough, then you will not, and I can not take any more!

Regards
Jan K Christensen

Final Comment:

This was a lot, but personally I see that there are Torp is "villain" here.
I've only used by my obvious belief. And utterance freedom we have in Norway and held up one thing only; God's word. And unlike Torp, so I live also in my theology. Torp theology has now turned so large cracks in his exposition of the innocent party is just ridiculous and pathetic. It is rotten and utterly unbiblical with the so-called innocent party. Who can decide who is the innocent party? As a rule, it is always this split down the middle who is the culprit, or so-called innocent party.

Now both Jan Aage Torp and his former wife both married at each edge. Have Torp asked about which of them is when the innocent and who is the guilty party. For after Torp theology - which of course is 100% unbiblical - then the innocent marry, while the guilty are left with black Per. At Torp imagine even this, and many others. Yes, yes. This I can not do anything about. Only warn and guide. And Torp says I've been harder, or do not see as many shades. That's right, I'm going after all the basis of a spiritual lubricant when I belonged to the Pentecostal movement and was influenced by the so-called Rasmus-sight where the innocent can remarry again came under the Reformation. But this is not biblical, it is only death that allows for a second marriage for a Christian, nothing else:

Rooms. 7 2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 Therefore she is called an adulteress if she, while her husband lives, marries another man; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so she is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

1 Cor. 7 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate herself from her husband; 11 but divorced him when she abide, being unmarried or be reconciled herself with her ​​husband - and that a man should not put away his wife.

Luke 16 18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.

Related Links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/10/no-773-newspaper-our-country-refuses.html

 http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-766-torp-has-no-case-is-resonance-i.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-765-is-jan-kare-christensen-new-hans.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/08/no-738-brre-knudsens-death-but-he-was.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-763-for-early-christians-it-was.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-763-pastor-torp-will-report-me.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-762-pastor-jan-aage-torp-provided-me.html
http://www.verdidebatt.no/debatt/cat12/subcat13/thread140943/?next=0
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-768-jan-aage-torp-appear-directly.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-767-let-us-pray-for-pastor-torp-and.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-766-torp-has-no-case-is-resonance-i.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-765-is-jan-kare-christensen-new-hans.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/08/no-738-brre-knudsens-death-but-he-was.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-763-for-early-christians-it-was.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-763-pastor-torp-will-report-me.html

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-762-pastor-jan-aage-torp-provided-me.html
http://www.verdidebatt.no/debatt/cat12/subcat13/thread140943/?next=0
 http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/09/no-770-todd-bentley-and-jan-aage-torp.html
 http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/05/nr-499-todd-bentley-remarried-with-his.html
 http://janchristensen.net/index2.php?side=video http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/12/nr-422-pentecostal-charismatic.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-157-not-everyone-who-says-lord-and.html

fredag 3. oktober 2014

No. 773: The newspaper Our Country refuses and will not take in my response to the Jan Aage Torp outcomes against me and deicing of God's word where it is legitimate to be re-married to a Christian!

No. 773:


The newspaper Our Country refuses and will not take in my response to the Jan Aage Torp outcomes against me and deicing of God's word where it is legitimate to be re-married to a Christian!

I wrote: Ranked. 886: Similarly at Jan Aage Torp accusations against me and the police rendered in Our Country on Wednesday 1 October 2014!

Photo of Levi Fragell who wrote about Torp on Facebook to Randi Ingwersen



So wrote Fragell: What for me is almost incomprehensible is that parts of the Christian people still invite Torp cooperation (as Sharon valley in summer) after he for years has violated decency limits on religious practice - for obvious damage and violation of vulnerable children, young and old. A practice he f. Items. reviewing the following manner: "" I have driven demons out of people in Norway and abroad who have waged a battle over several hours or even several days, with the personified demons that dwells within them. Below are underway almost a "duel" in spirit, mind and body between God and satan, angels and demons. My overwhelming experience is that the name of Jesus Christ creates shock waves in the demonic realms, and they try all expedients to stick to their 'home' in a human body: rude, debate, hide and seek, fear, rage, misery - until they finally DO let go. Fråding, barking, shaking, screaming is just human expression of the war being fought in this man. Following Jesus' example, I have even commanded the demons to enter the animal near! (poor animals, hehe ...) Read Mark 5: 1-20. "

The newspaper said Our Country:
From: John Morken
Posted: 1st October 2014 1:49 p.m.
To: jk.chris@online.no
Subject: Post about duck Torp

To Jan Kåre Christensen

Via colleague Blystad I have been sent a total "equivalent of Jan Aage Torp's accusations against me."
I thank therefore no to your post.

best greetings

John Morken
Debate Editor
Our Country

My answer:
Okay, well I have separate blogs and website, the Christian people destroy themselves with the steps that you post for the day where everything should not be up to the light, indirectly Christian people no attitude to be open that allows such things between me and Torp gets in the way as it gets!

Have a nice nice day!

Jan K

January Aage Torp has presented his views on remarriage.
Where is the free-because it is not binding as long as the other party lives.
Look what he writes Searchlight:
This is not a convenience standpoint for me. I already devoted divorced in 1985, and has since devoted 07.08 divorced again. I obtained advice from recognized leaders in the Pentecostal church who said: "If, after thorough discussions find that it is right that they get married, then you should marry them. Always take the strain of standing with people when it's right. Do not wash your hands if it is right. "The same is said of my missionary parents.
Even then, the age of 28, I was convinced that remarriage could be right if the divorced had been rejected by his former spouse, or former spouse had committed adultery. Other situations have to be considered carefully.
Through 30 years I have held this view and this practice, and I have no regrets.
It is important to stand up for the Word of God and fellow human beings, regardless of whether we face criticism.
A pastor should never choose the convenient way ...
(state final).

What about Torp yourself? Torp was scrapped after what he writes, but that was because she was aware of his barking and manipulation were behind. Who knows, maybe this had been for some time? And now both Torp and his former wife married at each edge, in other words. Which one is when the so-called innocent party?

What the font?

Torp even now come clean out the disability itself from his standpoint. Now his former wife remarried, just the same as him. In other words, even after Torp theology live either in sin. Or is this totally unscriptural interpretation, and the writing has a whole different teachings and approach?

Scripture teaches that remarriage is strictly prohibited and marrying a divorced, likewise. As believers we have a chance, just a chance. And it is only death that "terminates" a marriage.

What now with Jan Aage Torp? His theology crack here as both himself and has previously wife Ann Christin are now both married to each his wing?

Or is Torp's interpretation completely wrong? Scripture clearly teaches that remarriage of believers in the New Testament is sin. And to marry a divorcee, it is also a sin.

Here is some of what I have written to Torp in Searchlight, but does not Torps equivalent for it is really a Hoten tottering answer:

God's Word teaches that after divorce, an either settle or live alone. Here both Jesus and Paul very clear.

1 Cor. 7 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate herself from her husband; 11 but divorced him when she abide, being unmarried or be reconciled herself with her ​​husband - and that a man should not divorce his wife.
Remarriage is regarded as adultery or fornication sin by scriptural teachings in the New Testament.
In other words, then those who remarries or marries a divorced, "whore goats" or "whores" to be considered as the possible "new" marriage is against God's words and teachings of Jesus. Inflected forms are eg. whore whore man or woman. People are the whore buck and hussy!

Luke 16 18 Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.

1 Cor. 6 16 Know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body with her? For it is said: The two shall become one flesh.

Rooms 7 2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 Therefore she is called an adulteress if she, while her husband lives, marries another man; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so she is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

Notice the Scripture expletives "adulteress" and then use the word "whore buck" on a man is just a popular expression in well-Norwegian for the same, if the expression is very powerful.

Rune rod can bend adultery? You will end with man whore or whore woman.
Whore Man on popular language is whore buck and whore woman hussy!

Although I like Danish understand it!

Rune rod you have requested a reply from Torp.

Such great Apostle who Torp stands over such trivial things as to account for why he can remarry after divorce with a woman 25 years younger than himself. He's too big, too big in itself enough!

Do you ever get an answer from him, that he is too slick to answer enough!

Torp realize you never make any mistakes or hurting anyone. But the word "forgive me" you have probably never put on your tongue, yet!
But maybe one day you will see who you are also in the light of the Word!

It was the emails you sent to her, and let her name and man on your blog that was more counterfeit Donald Ducks representation. I still do not know what connection there is between me and the Christian party, you mentioned me Magnar Tanum or whatever his name was. No Torp, you are so out running in all areas of life that I now really think most sorry for you!

Torp has appeared on the so-called innocent party, and it's so simple. Anyone can flip and twist and make himself the "innocent" party. Now Torp and his former wife both married at each edge, then they are both "innocent"?

You know Barratt wrote a book about divorce and remarriage and the set before the elders of the Philadelphia thirties but they said it was unbiblical, Barratt and shelved it.

Then came the demos on the track and worked its wonders later and the book was published and the veiled Barratts name and reputation.

The Christian church / congregation was completely unfamiliar with the so-called innocent party completely into humanist Rasmus came forward during the Reformation and talked about this, he was not a Christian. So the source of the so-called innocent party, it stems from a humanist who were not Christian.

Tragic, but Scripture says that it should come seducing spirits and doctrines of demons into the church after the apostles died (Acts 20 29 For I know that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing herd. 30 Even among their own will raise up men who go with false doctrine to get ripped disciples with him).

Torp you learn and believe in the so-called "innocent" party. Okay, now both you and your right or former wife re-married, which of the two lives when in an invalid marriage? You can not both be innocent? I got very often 6 in maths at school, but here only need a 1 class level to understand that this is not true. But you are too cowardly to respond? But going with the planing and respect etc.?
You poor live enough as a re-married is the popular term for the same. And your current wife do not live together with their proper husband for what scripture says!

This is a verb which indicates that this living in the now, not lived or will live.

Both Torp and his wife is now remarried on each edge. Ergo they live both in adultery then it can not possibly be that they both are the innocent party. Or is it for the courses that apply?

Rune Rod writes:
The Bible also speaks clearly about remarriage.
Luke 16:18: "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery. Remarriage and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. "
Rooms from 7.2 to 3 "For the married woman is bound by law to her husband so long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. Therefore she is called an adulteress if she, while her husband is still alive, becomes another man's wife. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law and is no adulteress if she marries another man. "Mark 10,11- 12:" When they were come into the house, his disciples asked him again about this. He says to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, is guilty of adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she committeth adultery. "Paul writes in 1 Corinthians as clear 7.10-11:" And unto the married I command, yet not of myself, but the Lord: A wife must not separate from her husband. But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband. And a man should not divorce his wife. "We note that Paul refers to a word from the Lord. It is given only two options for the divorced wife, to remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband.
innocent party
The theory of the innocent party based on Matthew 19, 9, where Jesus says: "But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife for any reason other than fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. "This statement is meant to provide cover for a man who is separated from his wife because she has committed adultery, can remarry. But such an interpretation violates the parallel verses quoted above. True biblical interpretation has always been the guiding star that the clear words must illuminate the less clear, and in this case it is more clear verses that go against remarriage.
(end of quote).

Torp you choose your path

Repentance and forgiveness of sins are two sides of the same coin!

Scripture is abundantly clear.

1 Cor. 7.10 to 11. Say it loud and clear that either one should settle or live single. It is as a single. Then you should have been single if she rejected you. This is not my doctrine. But what God's word says.

You choose which side to stand on.

Have a nice day!

Torp ha-ha! You are fabricating something all the time to save your own skin.

You are not "legally" married now!

The rest is your choice!

I'm shocked, really shocked January Aage Torp expounding the Word of God in which he argues that as the spurned can remarry when he is no longer bound to his wife. One can then simply remove large portions, if not the whole Bible if Torp exegesis is right and he has the right to enter into a new marriage based on God's word. What about that man should love the church as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it. Even when we fail, the Lord loves us. While Torp condition of love is the opposite than what God's Word teaches and says!
He is, in other words, Anti Christian, one Antichrist!

He is, in other words, Anti Christian, one Antichrist!

Scripture says:
Efes. 5 25 Husbands love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it;

Torp said, she left me, I find a new, younger and more fit! Just as the world's people live today! Is not this exactly the opposite than what God's word says and how a scorned husband to act and be? Torp makes himself a Antichrist.

Scripture says:
1 Jn. b 4. 3b. This is the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and it is already now in the world.

This is bad!

My last comment on the Searchlight:

This is bad!

Seems you will wake up to who we face, I believe that I am neither rude, nasty or "abnormal".
Torp does exactly the same as Todd Bentley!

Final Comment:

Even Torp's theology of the innocent party has now unraveled when both he and his former madam is re-married on each edge. Ergo, since they both live in adultery since after what Torp himself says that he was abandoned when she did not like him anymore.

Torp tried and managed to psyche the Randi Ingwersen, but now she is back up and sent me a part that I put out in the end:

This is the right time and should meet many? Many remarriage ministers here that the Word speaks right.

The Bible says that "we must all the more heed to what we have heard, so we do not drift away from
so ..... how are we to "get away". and not "care about".
These words should have a bell to ring!
Samson's downfall was so gradual that he once did not realize that it happened. As easy as swinging a wand he had become accustomed to tap into God's power and defeat any enemy and obstacle.

But listen now ..... But sin and self-indulgence was his mistake. Then Delilah said:
"The Philistines are upon you, Samson"! awoke from his sleep
and thought "I'll probably get open and shake myself free, like the other times." He knew not that the Lord had turned away from him. "Dom 16.20-21 So the Philistines took him.

When you ignore God, are you away. Your prayers are not as effective. You no longer have a godly influence on those around you.
You fall back into old patterns. You refuse to forgive those who have offended you. You do not ask for forgiveness from those you have hurt.
You start to do what is comfortable and that benefit you instead of what is right.
You carry on attitudes such as fear and anger. You nourish "the old man" while ignoring the new.

This indicates the need for a spiritual health check.

Ask God today to flood illuminate these attitudes, activities and connections that need to be taken care of and start to weed them out.
The good news is that when you are obedient to the Word of God and the spiritual leadership, you get back your spiritual vitality, and God can use you more than before.

(from Bible Reading Plan: Psalm 93, Luke 14, Dan 5-6)

Do not give up, there is something called. And it is indeed possible to win his wife back .... but this is typical "Pentecostal charismatic" Christians ... they owe almost always on the other spouse so they just can "be free" though .... I have seen several decades ...... So embarrassing many do it for themselves .... live as they please and live as they please but do not mix God into it and three down from the platform .... not leather other .... and certainly not about marriage .....

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http://www.verdidebatt.no/debatt/cat12/subcat13/thread140943/?next=0
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torsdag 2. oktober 2014

No. 772: Torp care no longer about his first wife when she left him and provided him with unlimited power to a new "marriage"!

No. 772:
Torp care no longer about his first wife when she left him and provided him with unlimited power to a new "marriage"!

I'm shocked, really shocked January Aage Torp expounding the Word of God in which he argues that as the spurned can remarry when he is no longer bound to his wife. One can then simply remove large portions, if not the whole Bible if Torp exegesis is right and he has the right to enter into a new marriage based on God's word. What about that man should love the church as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it. Even when we fail, the Lord loves us. While Torp condition of love is the opposite than what God's Word teaches and says!
He is, in other words, Anti Christian, one Antichrist!
Photo of the little horn of Dan 7.8 represents the antichrist. Torp is obviously not the Antichrist, but allikvel an antichrist who have His Spirit.

Det lille hornet i Dan 7,8 representerer antikrist.
Scripture says:
Efes. 5 25 Husbands love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it;

Torp said, she left me, I find a new, younger and more fit! Just as the world's people live today! Is not this exactly the opposite than what God's word says and how a scorned husband to act and be? Torp making himself an antichrist.

Scripture says:
1 Jn. b 4. 3b. This is the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and it is already now in the world.

This is bad!

Torp driving forward a view that is unbiblical. But even this view does not go up in Torp "world" in which he and his former wife are now both re-married as Christians. Who then is "innocent"? Here is the first man to the mill and put the blame on the other. The Word of God says that man is responsible here no matter who does what. He shall be like Christ faced the congregation, and the wife is a picture of the church. The latest to break the marriage promise and be the man, here Torp failed as strong as possible and appears with no credibility!

January Aage Torp explains the Searchlight why he can remarry:
Although I was abandoned and had a lot of pain. After nine months I realized that I would not get her again ....

God's Word says:
1 Cor. 7 10 The married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate herself from her husband; 11 but divorced him when she abide, being unmarried or be reconciled herself with her ​​husband - and that a man should not divorce his wife.

Why can not the "great" Apostle be exalted above the Word of God? I do not get it!

Final Comment:
Pastor Torp has prosecuted me for what? I understand not so much out of. But the life that Torp leads out from God's word. It makes him all that a Christian - a believer - not to be.

How much can we trust that he would otherwise do the right thing and that is hold in the police report that he puts such emphasis on? Zero comma zero percent!

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