No. 948:
Joyce Meyer - an anointed witness from God or a modern
Jezebel?
It is to me so strange how God's people go for the
temptation, time after time!
Abilities one to speak in a particular way, then bites
on. This Joyce Mayer I think really is not anything but a religious preacher,
and then the fruits and doctrine then.
Photo of Joyce Meyer
She re-married - as believers!
When she was 9 years old, she was saved. Later married
and divorced after five years. These are openly on Wikipedia. Secondly married
again. All that a Christian. In other words, she lives by the word of God in
adultery. What font?
Rom. 7. 2 A married woman is bound by the law to her
husband so long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is loosed from the
law of her husband. 3 It therefore she adulterer if she marries another man
while living. But if her husband dies, she is free from the law no adulteress
if she marries another.
We can not excuse ourselves and say that we have had
such a traumatic childhood / adolescence and believe that God sees through with
sin in our lives. Particularly when here we are talking about a preacher.
Gjengifede is sin. She was divorced, okay. But God's word does not under any
circumstances remarriage for believers. Make a that, then comes out in the dark
with their lives. Secondly, should a minister be impeccable and an example of
the believers, something she clearly is not!
Do you believe in Kenneth Copeland and the other
trosforkynnerne, so go too good for Joyce Meyer. Take the distance from Kenneth
Copeland, then you take too distance from the other trosforkynnerne as Joyce
Meyer and all the others who have strange doctrine!
Her close aide killed his wife and two children.
A few years ago, took her BodyGard life of his wife
and their two children together. Two boys they had together. This body garden
stood with his wife's friend, behind the backs of his family. Would not my job
at Joyce Meyer, when it was well-paid. Did when short shrift and killed his
wife and their children together. Something he is convicted. Joyce Meyer
obviously can not loaded directly for this. I have seen several programs of
this from the United States also on secular TV. Will not say much more because
this is such a serious matter and I'm sitting here in Norway and this happened
in the United States that the summary of this feeling I did not have then.
Final
Comment:
She lives if in abundance on the material. And that
time. To say to her defense there, so she has created this wealth itself.
Although it is in my view through manipulation and she preaches a message that
itch people in the ear by promising them gold and green forests - here on
earth!
So everything allikvel something she has managed to
claw their way back here. But I am first and foremost against her because she
is re-married as a believer and a heretic to be a religious preacher! This link
with other faith preachers should have been more than good enough reason to
take distance from her and her preaching. Listening to such so-called preacher
who himself leads and err! Will only bring yourself into the same road and the
same life!
Joyce Meyer and Her False Teachings
Joyce Meyer is one dynamic speaker/motivator. The problem with Mrs. Meyers is that her doctrine is not Biblical. She does teach some good things but she also teaches way to many things that are not Biblically correct. Like the rest of the Word Faith, Seed Faith, Name It And Claim it crowd, Mrs. Meyers lives an extravagant lifestyle. She has all her clothes tailor made for her and lives in a multi-million dollar home, her husband drives a $100,000 automobile, her and their children all drive expensive vehicles, paid for by the Ministry and she fly's around the country in her Multi-million dollar jet plane when she isn't taking time to vacation at her home in the Ozarks, paid for by the Ministry. I truly believe these millions of dollars could have been used more efficiently on other causes other than to give her and her family a rich lifestyle. I do not think they should live as dirt poor persons but I certainly do not recognize any sacrifice on their parts. There are millions of people who need the basics in life just to live let alone have any extra. With all this extravagance, she is not showing the true spirit of Jesus. - RW
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Joyce Meyers Message On Being Born Again
Quotes, Teachings, Doctrines, Beliefs Concerning
Salvation
Purpose
What are the beliefs, teachings & doctrines of
Joyce Meyers concerning being "Born Again"? What does Joyce Meyer
believe on what a person must believe to be saved? What does Joyce Meyer teach
concerning Jesus on the cross and spiritual death, and salvation? Below will be
various quotes from Joyce Meyer teachings from one of her booklets called
"The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make", and the purpose for
this information is not to be contentious or divisive, but rather to give an
exposition of what Joyce Meyer teaches concerning being born again. Within the
Christian Church there are many people who listen to Joyce Meyer whether on the
radio, television, or by reading her books. However, many do not realize that
her teachings are not in accordance with the Word of God. It is true that there
are things she teaches which do line up Biblically, but the same is said of the
Jehovah's Witnesses or the Mormons.
What does Joyce Meyer teach that is so bad? Is Joyce
Meyer a false teacher? Is Joyce Meyer a Christian? Why should anyone be
concerned? Joyce Meyers does not have all the same false teachings as those in
the Faith Movement, but she does have some teachings that are the same with
various Faith teachers. Examine this information for yourself and line up the
Biblical gospel to the gospel that Joyce Meyer teaches. For more information on
the Faith Movement teachings go to our Faith Movement section.
In a book called "The Most Important Decision You
Will Ever Make" Joyce Meyer teaches what it means to be born again and
what Christ had to do for people to be saved. Read the following comments:
"Although your physical body will die someday,
your spirit will continue to live for an eternity. Whether your spirit lives in
heaven or hell depends on the choices you have made. In this book, best selling
author Joyce Meyer outlines God's plan of salvation so that you can make a
quality decision." (Back of the book, 1996-Edition)
"The spiritual part of you can be thought of as
the part of you that cannot be seen with the natural eye. This part of you will
live forever. And where the spiritual you lives depends on the decision you
make as you read this book." (Page 8, 1996-Edition)
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Warning, Danger Ahead!
Joyce Meyer teaches that Jesus did not pay for sin
upon the cross, but actually went to the torments of hell and made atonement
there. The following quote is from Joyce Meyer's 1991 booklet on being born
again which is worded differently in the 1996-updated edition.
"During that time He entered hell, where you and
I deserved to go (legally) because of our sin...He paid the price there.…no
plan was too extreme...Jesus paid on the cross and in hell….God rose up from
His throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless Son of God, “Let Him
go.” Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled
Jesus...He was resurrected from the dead 3Ú4 the first born-again man"
(The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make: A Complete And Thorough
Understanding Of What It Means To Be Born Again, 1991, pages 35-36, Joyce
Meyer) This quote was found from the Christian Research Institute's article on
Joyce Meyer which can be found by "Clicking Here".
In her 1996 edition of "The Most Important
Decision You Will Ever Make" Joyce Meyer states the same things but with
different wording.
"Believe that Jesus did what the Bible says.
Believe He is indeed the Son of God, born of a virgin. He took man's sin on the
cross. He did not stay dead. He was in the grave three days. During that time,
He entered hell, where you and I deserved to go (legally) because of our
sin." (Page 41, 1996-Edition) Notice the similar wording in this quote
compared to the other quote.
"Whatever it took to get God's people back, free
again, is what they would do. Jesus paid for our sins on the cross and went to
hell in our place." (Page 41, 1996-Edition) Whatever it took means that
Jesus had to go to hell, suffer and be tormented by demons in our place.
"When Jesus hung on the cross, He took our sin
upon Himself. God cannot stay in the presence of sin. As Jesus took our sin, He
was separated from the presence of the Father...Jesus was taking your sins and
those of everyone else upon Him as He felt this absence of His Father's
presence. He said, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" [Matt.
27:46, author's paraphrase] Jesus knew it would happen, but the horror of
separation from the bright presence of the Father was worse than He could of
imagined, and it caused Him to cry out...and His spirit went to hell because
that is where we deserved to go." (Page 42, 1996-Edition) This is a common
teaching among the Faith Movement whereas they teach Jesus died spiritually and
became literally the nature of sin. Thus, the Father turned away from Jesus
while He was on the cross and Jesus died alone. Check out our article "Was
Jesus Separated From The Father On The Cross?" for further information on
Jesus being separated from the Father and becoming spiritually dead.
"There is no hope of anyone going to heaven
unless they believe this truth. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with
all your heart that Jesus took your place. He became your substitute and took
all the punishment you deserve. He bore all your sins. He paid the dept you
owe...Jesus went to hell for you. He died for you. He paid for your sins."
(Page 43, 1996-Edition)
Concerning being born again and what is required to be
saved we see Joyce Meyer teaching:
1.
"Believe...what the Bible says."
2.
That when Jesus was on the cross He did not stay dead
but went to hell.
3.
That Jesus went to hell in our place because that is
where we deserved to go.
4.
That God would do whatever it took to free His people.
5.
That there is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless
they believe this truth, meaning what Jesus did to make atonement for sins.
6.
That a person must believe in their heart that Jesus
took their place on the cross, He died spiritually, (implied) was separated
from the Father, tormented by demons in hell, (1991-Edition) Jesus is the first
born again man. (1991-Edition)
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What is the Gospel?
The Scriptures are clear on what the Gospel message
is.
"1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel
which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by
which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you,
unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance
what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the
Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according
to the Scriptures" (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 NASB) The apostle Paul taught
that Jesus died and rose again for our sins according to the Scriptures. Paul
taught the death that Jesus died was His physical death and His shed blood.
Nowhere do we find anything from Paul or any other apostle/prophet for that
matter state Jesus died spiritually for our sins according to the Scriptures.
What the apostles taught concerning what Jesus did to
make atonement and reconciliation for our sins:
"19 For it was the Father's good pleasure for all
the fullness to dwell in Him, 20 and through Him to reconcile all things to
Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say,
whether things on earth or things in heaven. 21 And although you were formerly
alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, 22 yet He has now
reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you
before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach" (Colossians 1:19-22,
NASB)
"18 knowing that you were not redeemed with
perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited
from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and
spotless, the blood of Christ." (1 Peter 1:18-19, NASB)
What Jesus taught:
"27 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks,
He gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is My
blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of
sins." (Matthew 26:27, NASB)
"44 Now He said to them, "These are My words
which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are
written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be
fulfilled." 45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46
and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and
rise again from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for forgiveness
of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from
Jerusalem." (Luke 24:44-47, NASB)
"Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine,
He said, 'It is finished!' And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit."
(John 19:30, NASB)
Jesus taught that His death and shed blood was
sufficient for the atonement of our sins. When Jesus said "It is
finished" He was teaching an absolute truth that the payment for sin was
paid in full. The Greek of "It is finished" is "tetelestai"
which was a common way of saying dept paid in full, it is done.
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What Does Born Again Mean?
Simply put being born again means becoming a new
creation in Christ. Jesus taught Nicodemus what born again meant in John 3:1-21
and the message was simple. A person either accepts or rejects that Jesus came
to this world to save anyone of their sins. What does it mean to accept Jesus?
Jesus came first to the Jews, then after His death and resurrection the message
was for the apostles to go to all people. To accept Jesus means you acknowledge
you are in need of being saved, (John 3:14-18) that you believe Jesus was the
Messiah and God come in the flesh, (John 8:24) that Jesus had the same
authority and equality as the Father, (John 5:18-23 & John 10:30) that
Jesus was the only way to the Father and for salvation, (John 14:6) that Jesus
taught the Father, the Holy Spirit and Himself were three distinct personages
from one another. (John 14-16)
John the apostle teaches what born again means:
"4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the
world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world--our faith. 5 Who is
the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of
God?"..."10 The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony
in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he
has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son. 11 And
the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in
His Son. 12 He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of
God does not have the life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe
in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal
life."..."20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given
us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is
true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life." 1
John 5, NASB)
What Will You Do?
It is clear that Joyce Meyer teaches another gospel
message concerning what born again means and what is required to believe in
order to be saved. This information shows Biblically that Joyce Meyer is not
teaching the Biblical Gospel message and those who listen to her should be
concerned. We believe she is teaching false doctrines of the message of hope
and eternal life, and anyone who is serious about wanting to know truth needs
to be open to examining this further. This is not an attack on Joyce Meyer in
any way, but rather as said before an exposition on what she teaches concerning
being born again.
We are warned in the Scriptures to be careful of those
who claim to be of God but are in fact wolves in sheep's clothing. There are
false prophets & apostles, and false Christ's:
"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in
sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves." (Matthew 7:15, NASB)
"For false Christ's and false prophets will arise
and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the
elect.." (Matthew 24:24, NASB)
"28 "Be on guard for yourselves and for all
the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the
church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29 "I know that after
my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; 30
and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to
draw away the disciples after them. 31 "Therefore be on the alert,
remembering that night and day for a period of three years I did not cease to
admonish each one with tears." (Acts 20:28-31, NASB)
"13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful
workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 No wonder, for even
Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is not surprising
if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose
end will be according to their deeds." (2 Corinthians 11:13-15, NASB)
We are instructed to examine all people and doctrines
for truth, and reject false teachers and doctrines:
"10 The brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas
away by night to Berea, and when they arrived, they went into the synagogue of
the Jews. 11 Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for
they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to
see whether these things were so." (Acts 17:10-11, NASB)
"But examine everything carefully; hold fast to
that which is good" (1 Thessalonians 5:21, NASB)
"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God
as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of
truth." (2 Timothy 2:15, NASB)
"2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3 For the
time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have
their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance
to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will
turn aside to myths." (2 Timothy 4:2-4, NASB)
"10 Reject a factious man after a first and
second warning, 11 knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being
self-condemned." (Titus 3:10-11, NASB)
What will you do with this information? If any of you
are wondering if we have attempted to contact Joyce Meyer's, the answer is yes.
We have attempted contacting Joyce Meyer's through emails and by phone, yet no
reply. Our conclusion is she does not want to discuss this and we urge you to
share this vital information with those who listen to Joyce Meyer's. If you
have any questions concerning what we have shared we would encourage you to
contact me: jk.chris@online.no
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