Pastor Erling Walther writes about me that I am, "Jesus-only" in the plus and let him "die" without more attention.
This, he writes about himself, when even the roses and even met with the big ego he possesses and has:
Photo of Erling Walther, Scripture says: 1 Cor. 11th 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with something on his head, dishonors his head; 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of man.
He performs with his hat and shows that he despises the word of God.
I am former pastor of the Pentecostal Movement and DFEF. Has been active preacher of the early twenties. After Bible school in Farsund I have been pastor / leader of several congregations, including Lista, Flekkefjord Tvedestrand, Haugesund and Kristiansand. Following completion of pastoral ministry, I have spent much time on missions in Ukraine and Hungary. Currently working as a church planter in Hungary. Have series of meetings and educational seminars. I'm also active on the home front. Is part of the independent chapel at Sødal. We live here too and welcome the opportunities to serve the Lord Jesus also at home. I'm also a member of the Pentecostal Church Philadelphia, Kristiansand.
This writes Pastor Erling Walther about me:
Like of indoctrinated and loveless nonsense there thankfully little of. Although he is "Jesus only" in the plus edition he goes way out of line compared to you, Bjørn Olav. I understand you well if you proceed with the case. Although I think that it is best to let him "die" without more attention.
Erling Walther wants me to "die". This means that I will boycott them out.
I like all the others things that I succeed and not succeed. But my service - not least on the net - is formidable. To boycott me, yes they do try. But if you're reading this stand with us in prayer and financially, I am sure we will succeed - together! and Pastor Erling Walther can "eat" his hat, he-he!
Erling Walther lying and false speeches when he compares me with Jesus Only movement when I take as sharp distance from those treenighetslærens, this justifies I with several people on both blog and website. However, the danger of lies and falsehoods, then he just do it. Here are some excerpts of what I write:
Summary and recap the Trinity!
Psalm 119 160 The sum of your word is truth, eternal, all your righteous judgment.
I think that there are a few passages that speak of the Trinity, a few more for Jesus only doctrine. The rest of the word of God speak for my view that there are two persons in the Godhead: the Father and the Son. Actually Godhead somewhat bad word, used only in Acts 17 as a borrowed word of Greeks (Colossians Dispenser letter fulness of the Godhead, Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily). God is the most used. It is for the focus to be the only true God the Father!
And their common spirit is not 1 \ 3 of God or Deity, but their common spirit.
Spirit in Scripture is never mentioned by proper name or reveals himself as a man or a figure of a person. Only the components, which indicates that he has personal characteristics. Eg as a powerful weather in the form of a dove, etc. The properties are as supervisor, the Spirit of truth, peace, spirit, etc. And that is what we find throughout Scripture that the Holy Spirit has different characteristics but also mentioned that the seven Spirits of God. That tells that he not only has a property, but all properties of the Father and the Son as he is their common spirit. Scripture says several people about the Holy Spirit, Jesus Kristi Spirit and the Spirit of God etc.
The two places in Scripture that speak most strongly in the writing of a trinity are here:
1) Theologians have pointed out several places in the NT to support in their view that God is three, three people. Father, Son and Holy Spirit together in a God. This dogma is not particularly emphasized in the Bible except in some later texts other than in the first Epistle of John chapter 5 verses 7-8
Through the Latin Middle Ages believed that the text said: There are three that bear witness in heaven. The Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. Aha here it is, the dogma of the Trinity. But this is found only in the Latin manuscripts. No, not in the Greek manuscripts of the NT.
Since the New Testament of the Greek manuscripts were published in 1516, a scribe named Erasmus did not include these verses to the great hubbub of his theological opponents who maintained that he had a mischievous way removed from Trinity Bible. Erasmus replied that he could not find this part in any of the Greek manuscripts he knew. And here goes the story. He challenged his opponents to produce a Greek manuscript of the Trinity. If they did it, he would include it in the next edition of the NT. In response produced his opponents a manuscript or at least they got a produced. Some copied John's first letter from the Greek and added these verses, and presented them to Erasmus. As the honorable man he was, he included these verses in the next edition.
It was this version that became the basis for the King James version, which was important in the historical Bible in English. These verses are still in the King James version but not the newer and more reliable translations.
This is why an older generation of readers of the English Bible was assumed that the Bible taught the dogma of the Trinity, even though this is not found in any Greek manuscripts in more than a thousand years.
So what are the most reliable? The Greek manuscripts or the much later Latin? Of course the Greek manuscripts!
2) Matt. 28th 16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had said he would meet them. 17 And when they saw him, they fell down and worshiped him: but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations! Baptize them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the end. "
Going one into studying this carefully you will find an out of the Great Commission in both Matthew and Mark have been taken in and out and sometimes changed with great certainty in Matthew Gospel. The first change saying so, "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
So it was left out and taken in again. What Jesus actually said that has been changed is that these are Jesus' actual words: "in my name baptize them." This will be the "correct" translation as follows:
Matt. 28th 16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had said he would meet them. 17 And when they saw him, they fell down and worshiped him: but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, and in my name, baptizing them 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the end. "
Who should we believe? All others both the Gospels and the Acts of the baptize all new won in the name of Jesus or Christ.
NEVER in three denominations as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Father is referred to as the only true God, Father, the Ancient of Days, etc. Son Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Son of Man etc.
Spirit NEVER with his own name but with personal characteristics that shows that we are dealing with God and Jesus Kristi Spirit. Excuse repetitions but that's because this must sit!
According to the Norwegian language rules to proper names consisting of several words just capitalize the first letter of the first word. It has NEVER the Holy Spirit but it has both God the Father and the Son Jesus Christ.
Rooms. 6 2 Certainly not! How can we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Or do you not know that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were buried with him when we were baptized with the baptism into death. And as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of his Father, we too might walk in newness of life. 5 Have we grown together with Christ in a death like his, we shall be one with him in a resurrection like his.
To be baptized in three denominations is really an ancient Egyptian beliefs and teachings which were later adopted by the Greeks. And continued by the Catholic Church and the Protestant churches and church. The doctrine is essentially demonic such as the imposition of the Sabbath sacred to the Christians also. And there are some who teach that baptism is not New Testament teaching, it is also a dangerous and unbiblical teachings.
1 Tim. 4 1 Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith. They should stick to seducing spirits, and demons learn.
It therefore becomes dangerous when one builds his entire Trinitarian understanding of the scriptures that are questionable but those passages had its validity. So is the sum of God's word truth. Therefore, one can not say that this is a conspiracy theory that some would argue this is. To know that the Jesus only doctrine is wrong and the Trinity, the sum of God's word is truth. My view is the matter!
There are two persons in the Godhead.
The Holy Spirit is no person.
1) The basic meaning of the word is wind, spirit etc.
2) The Spirit is not proper names.
3) It is mathematically impossible with three persons in one God.
4) Only the Father is God fully! Jesus is not from eternity with the Father. Isaiah 44.6. Father is named in John. AD 17 3: The only true God!
But Jesus is still God, but the Son of the Father, and can and should be both worshiped and one can pray to him and in his name to the Father.
There prevails a generally broad understanding among Christian denominations that God is a composite of three equal persons who together constitute a unit named as Trinity. It is part of this dogma one's perception of God mutually can go into roles as Son or Father without actually being there. The Bible is completely alien to these concepts, and the war also against all common sense and logic. The Bible teaches clearly that we have only one God, the Father (1 Cor 8:6) and that He has a son - who also is God because he is born of Him (Hebrews 1:8) - and that the Father and the Son a common spiritual presence in all creation through the Holy Spirit (Phil. 1:19, Jn 2:23 p.m.). Son is clearly subordinate to the Father in rank (1 Cor 15:27,28), even if he is given by the Father to be worthy of all worship the same way with him. The Holy Spirit is not an independent third god to be worshiped, but the Father and of the Son universal presence. Nowhere in the Bible does occur something like worship of the Holy Spirit. There is a total stranger occurrence for the people of God throughout biblical history. The idea of a triune God stems from pagan religions. The renowned historian Edward Gibbon concluded that the Trinity in the book "History of Christianity":
"If paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians ... was changed by the Roman Church to the incomprehensible dogma of the Trinity. "
The father of the Trinity is impossible to overstate. In the Trinity, the Holy Spirit defined to be 1/3 God, and hence worthy of worship and praise in equal with the Father and the Son which constitutes the remaining two thirds. The consequences of worshiping the Trinitarian Holy Spirit, is that in reality opens the door wide open for the spiritual, and that it comes in contact with a totally different spirit than he that is called by the name of the Holy Spirit. Spiritism and mediumship has been practiced for thousands of years, and is strictly forbidden in the Bible (Gen. 8:27 p.m. 3). It is no coincidence that the Christian community where you emphasize just prayer and praise of the Holy Spirit also experience clear cases of demonic possession during meetings. This is perhaps not so surprising, since many of the methods used, eg. by renowned charismatic evangelist Benny Hinn, has proven to be exactly the same as those used in mesmerism. This means that what takes place at these meetings simply are nothing but mass suggestion and hypnosis. These obsessions are used even as evidence that God exists. How wrong is it possible to make? Jesus never threw people to the ground by healings and blessings. He got them hand up!
As the Father and the Son only considered to be the roles that God occurs in as appropriate Him, we lose an essential understanding of who the Son is (1 John 2:22,23). You also lose sight of how incredibly much it cost the Father to give His Son to mankind on the cross of Calvary. Until Jesus was conceived as a human being, he had no physical part of human nature. Through His saving action, is he become the Son of man forever. Father really gave His Son for the world's sin. There was no RPG. There was a real risk that Jesus took upon Himself human nature in which He came down to earth to atone for our sins. If Jesus at a single point had given in to Satan's temptations, He had been suffering from the curse of sin just as much as everyone else, and would have been just as lost as everyone else, because the Bible is clear that the wages of sin is death. The Bible teaches that God can not die. If it was the One True God, as described in 1 Corinthians 8:6, which hung on the cross, it means that Jesus is not really dead, but it was just for show and that God really gave His Son. What is un-Christian and Bible strange idea this is! When treenighetslærens facilitators are asked to study this view, one ends up with definitions and theses that are so devoid of biblical foundations of earth and the spiritual reality of the presence that the only thing that remains as valid "reason" to implement the teachings of Christianity is to call the a mystery. That way no one can contradict it or criticize it. In keeping with the great Catholic tradition it is considered given only some scholars to gain more insight into what it is about, while the great mass just have to accept their conclusions. This is not the biblical recommended way to go forward after the man builds his faith foundation. There are many things about the nature of God is a mystery to us, but Trinity does not fall under this category. It is the opposite - when looking for - an openly conglomeration of human philosophy, ancient paganism and demons misguided teachings.
Who should and should shunned like the plague in every Christian context and from every Christian proclamation in writing and speech! Please violation of scripture and common sense thinking of placing a spirit in like a second God when God the Father also refers to himself as Spirit.
Joh. e 4 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth. "
Can not see that either the Trinity or Jesus only doctrine is supported when trying teachings of the Scriptures, for all Scripture is inspired by God and is God's word.
The biblical teaching is that the Holy Spirit is no more or less God and Jesus Christ communal spirit.
I and all other people have the spirit, but to say that this spirit is a person will sound absurd.
Antichrist is a spirit, but to say it is the Antichrist will sound silly and banal.
The vast majority of Christendom in the 1500 years since the Catholic church was the subsequent've been doing so they have done is bad. But to continue to believe Serpent lie is folly and delusion!
Wake up and return to the straight and true biblical faith and learning.
Jude 3 Beloved I've had a deep desire to write to you about the salvation we share. But now I felt compelled to send you a few words of exhortation to fight for the faith of the saints once for all has been handed. (End of quote).
Trinity doctrine are doomed!
After I went public out and documented by the word of God that both the Trinity and Jesus only doctrine of God and Godhead are driving ditch on either side. Have not missed reactions.
But both Jesus only doctrine and the Trinity before a fall!
To give the final nail in the coffin of the Trinity and Jesus Only doctrine. I will give some final thoughts for now.
The Holy Spirit right denomination in Scripture is not the Holy Spirit with the Holy Spirit. It indicates that there is a Spirit that is Holy because it is God and the Spirit of Christ. Not a person, it is nonsensical.
Let us briefly look at some scriptures that says that the Holy Spirit is God and the Spirit of Christ. And say he is God is to miss the mark as a God.
Matt 10 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
So we synonym scripture in Luke 12 12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in that very hour what ye shall speak.
There are now 100% clear that the Holy Spirit is not a separate person, but God the Father Spirit.
Secondly, as we meet the same with the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and in God the Holy Spirit. To believe so is to believe in the weather!
1 Pet.1. 11 as they ransacked what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did until when he provided testimony about the sufferings of Christ and the glory afterward.
Synonym scripture in 2nd Pet.1. 21 for no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke by the Holy Spirit.
Here we meet in Scripture that it was the Spirit of Christ who testified beforehand what was to come. In Peter's 2 letter as it speaks about synonym experience that it is the Holy Spirit.
There are now 100% clear that the Holy Spirit is not a separate person, but the Spirit of Christ. If one will see the truth that God's word presents.
But there is also something prophetic about this.
The baton is now in the process of moving over to the Jews. The congregation is waiting for the rapture. When will the Jews to fill stand for preaching.
First, they will be two Super witnesses who preach then 144 000 selected Jews.
During the upcoming 1000 årsriket the Jews who will preach the gospel throughout the earth.
While the church will reign with Jesus.
Paul says so well in the 1st Kor.8.4b. there is no God but one. 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth - as there be gods many, and lords many - so 6 is yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Maybe this is the final truth to come back to the church of God? We believe that God's word does not speak of the Triune God but one God who has a son.
We also read in 2 Kor.3. 17 But the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
The Lord is the Spirit, not a separate divine person! (End of quote).
Final comment:
I write here in the last article, "After I went public out and documented by the word of God that both the Trinity and Jesus only doctrine of God and Godhead are driving ditch on either side." At the brazenly lying Pastor Erling Walther then blends into Jesus Only etc. are only to be evil and arrogant to damage and destroy me. Lie therefore in your hearts that it is always those who lie and speak untruths. The Apostle Paul called them false brethren;
Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/08/nr-21-is-holy-spirit-person-or-part-of.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/06/nr-1-is-god-trinity-or-not.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/11/nr-140-jesus-is-not-only-true-god-but.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-149-godhead-is-two-divided.html
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