tirsdag 3. oktober 2017

No. 1603: Jesus also appeared in the GT in several areas, including like the angel of the Lord!

No. 1603:
Jesus also appeared in the GT in several areas, including like the angel of the Lord!

This article I wrote 6½ years ago. Think it's as current today as it did. Adds it out all over again, as there is a lot of confusion concerning Jesus both in his pre-existence, while he was alive and after his resurrection. But there's only one place to find the right answers, it's in the scripture, and in the word of God alone!

The account of Jacob that violates the angel is found in Genesis 1 32: 22-32 and referenced and re places in Hosea 12: 4.
The word game tells one change of Jacob to "Israel", literally "he who is struggling or fighting with God." 

Is Jesus an Angel? Did Jesus have a preacher?


Jesus is the angel of the Lord, it teaches the scriptures!

Jesus had a preaching. That's what he says in Joh. e. 8. 58 Jesus said to them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham came, I am.

Jesus tells himself that he is Alpha and Omega.

Joh. Obvious. 22. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Jesus is the first and best! Imagine that Jesus was, after the heart of God and Father, completely and exceedingly delightful and perfect in character, mind and humility. There was no rebellion and pride and self-interest and opposition in him. He was all subject to the Father, and it was quite natural for Jesus to do the Father's will in everything.

In Satan / Lucifer, however, who were perfect in beauty and knowledge, there were opposite qualities that eventually came to the surface and a character that could not be united with the Father's heart, which is perfect love and truth, was fatal to Lucifer, the Lord's Highest Light Angel and his compassionate angels. Lucifer was not after the Father's heart; he was filled with pride and courtesy, self-will and self-interest, he would not bow to God and his will.

This is serious to think about us humans too, will we bow to God and His will? If not, we are in danger of coming under the same judgment as Satan and his demons as Paul says. See Jude's letter. This is something Satan wants for us humans, as he hates everything and everyone who bows for the good will of the Lord.

In other words, Jesus is not God the Father but the one who brings forth comes to life and does all that the Father wants. We also meet Jesus as the workmaster or as the builder of the GT.

Furthermore, we meet more places that other angels took part in both creation and when man was created.

Job. 38. 4 Where were you when I founded the earth? Say if you know! 5 Who determined its goal? Did you know? Or who tore the measuring cord out of it? 6 Where did its supporters fall, or who laid its cornerstone, 7 while all morning stars cried out, and all the sons of God cried out with joy? 8 And who shut up to the sea with doors, when it broke forth and went out of the womb. 9 When I made clouds on its robe, and shut it to its swell, 10 and made a boundary for it, and opened the door and the door, 11 and said, Here you will come and no longer here your proud waves will lie down.

1. Genesis 1 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on earth. 27 And God created man in his image, in the image of God he made it; To man and woman he created them.

Notice the wording: "us". When man was created, we were created for man and woman with the same propagation opportunity as those we read for example. if the fallen angels in Genesis 6 could also propagate. V. 4 In those days were the fights on the earth, and so on, when the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they gave birth to them children; they are the strong ones of old, the famous ones. 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that all the thoughts of his heart and contrivance was only evil continually.

We can also establish that the Angel of the Lord as we meet in the whole GT is Jesus, it also says Paul in 1 Cor. 10. 4 and drank all the same spiritual drink; for they drank the spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ.

This is empty in the New Testament and many have not understood that it was Christ who went with the children of Israel.

But Jesus is subordinate to the Father, and the Father is the only true God. Jesus says on several occasions that the Father is greater than Him.

"Because God gave the promise to Abraham, He swore to Himself, since He had no greater swearing." (Hebrews 6:13) It is the Father who says this about himself. He had no major or equivalent to swear and make decisions along with new thoughts?

The angel of the Lord

When we look at the GT, we find that Jesus on several occasions came down to earth from heaven, and that this was not only when He was born as human. Jesus came with 2 angels visiting Abraham in his preaching, noting that there were not just any spiritual bodies like DHA, because they ate and drank with Abraham. We read in 1.Mos 18: 1-8 And the Lord appeared to him in the plains oak-grove, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 And when he looked up he saw three men standing before him; and when he became them, he ran them from the door of the tent, and bowed themselves to the earth 3 and said, Lord! If I have found favor in your sight, do not your servant pass! 4 Let's get some water, so that you can wash your feet and rest under the tree! 5 And let me take a piece of bread, that you may turn away before you go on, since you have laid your way around your servant. They said: Yes, do as you say! 6 And Abraham hurried in to Sarah's tent, saying, Hurry up, and take three measures fine flour; chase it and back cakes! 7 And Abraham ran away to the herd, and fetched a fine and good calf; gave it to a young man, and he hastened to prepare it. 8 Then he took cream and sweet milk and the calf he had made the boy make and put it to them; and he stood with them under the tree while they ate.

In Old Testament times people used the name Jesus, when the disclosure of encounters with Him, but most often it is the Norwegian rendered "angel of the Lord".

We also find that Jesus came in different forms of expression, as in Joshua 5, where Jesus is referred to as the chief of the Lord's army. Personally, I think that when 185,000 were killed, this was not Jesus himself but a battle angel in his position, much possible angel Michael, who performed this action.

2 Kings 19:35 And it came to pass on that night that the angel of the LORD went forth, and smote an hundred and thirty and eight thousand men in the camp of Assyria; And when people rose up in the morning, they saw them all lying like dead bodies. Here, the name of the Lord's angel is used, but I believe that God has more angels he sends out in different missions and they are also referred to as the angel of the Lord.

In Joh.åp we meet several angels in connection with convictions.

The word "angel" has become somewhat misleading to address only a particular group of spiritual beings, while the meaning of the word is "a messenger" without any further description of the messenger's appearance or being (source: Hebr. Mal'ak).

That said, exploration can begin in GT:

The angel of the Lord is a messenger from heaven to humans, sometimes with good commandments, other times with warnings. All times we get a small description of who and how this messenger is and looks.


1.Mos: 16.7 to 13,

7 The angel of the Lord found her in a spring in the wilderness, at the source of the road to Sjur. 8 He said, "Hagar, Sarai's maid, where are you from, and where are you going?" She answered, "I have escaped from Sarai, my mother-in-law." 9 Then the angel of the Lord said to her, "Return to your mother-in-law and bend under her hand! "10 And he continued," Great I will make your seed, such a plate that no one can count it. "11 Then the angel of the angel said unto her,

"Well, you're with children, and you're going to give birth to a son;

you shall give him the name of Ishmael,

for the Lord has heard what you suffered.

12 He shall be a desolation of a man.

His hand must be facing everyone

and everyone's hand against him;

he is going to settle down

like the face of all its fringes. "

13 Then she gave the name of the Lord, who had spoken to her, "You are God who sees." For she said, "Have I really seen a glimpse of him who sees me?"

This is a story that strongly confirms God's presence, and not just sending any messenger (angel) by sending Jesus to Hagar. (When the Lord opens the eyes of believing Muslims for this, there will be many Jesus followers of Muslims).

Among the angels, both with God and the prince of darkness, there is a strict rank order. But in the demonic world there is still a lot of insurgency and confusion and clutter. Quite the opposite of what it is within the ranks of the holy angels. (Just as inPalestine Arabs where they fail to get it, the only thing they agree on is that di will hate Israel, and it is clearly triggering of demons they are under. This is really all that rise up against Israel. They go against God's eyelash.)

There are archangels and angels subject to them. The prince of darkness was once the archangel Lucifer. An angel, under the archangel, will never dare to exalt himself to God (they know what happened and will happen to Lucifer after believing himself to be equal to God and being cast out of heaven).

When this angel who spoke to Hagar says "Great, I will make your seed" and the name He receives from Hagar "You are God who sees." The angel of the Lord would not dare to let himself be called this if he was a subordinate angel, and not God (Jesus) himself.



As she sat there, the boy began to cry. 17 God heard that he was crying. Then the angel of God cried from heaven to Hagar, saying, "What is wrong with you, Hagar? Do not be afraid! For God has heard the boy cry where he lies. 18 Rise, take him up and hold him in his hand! For I will make him a great people. "19 Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well. She walked and filled the bag of water and let the boy drink. 20 God was with the boy. He grew up in the desert and became archers.

- "Angel of the Lord," left Jesus in action.



Then the angel of the Lord cried out to him from heaven, saying, "Abraham Abraham!" And he answered, "Yes, I am." 12 Then the angel said, "Do not put the hand on the boy and do nothing to him! For now I know that you fear God since you did not even spare your only son to me. "

-Is Jesus as the angel of the Lord Pay special attention to the last part of verse 12, "Now I know .... not even spared your only son to me." These words are never used by a messenger as a messenger always refers to him who sent him. Against Abraham, it appears that the "messenger" is identical to God and not one of the minor angels. This repeats in several verses a little further down in the same chapter:



15 Again, the angel of the Lord cried out to Abraham from heaven 16, saying, "I swear by myself, says the word of the Lord: Because you did this and did not spare your only son, 17 I will bless you rich and make your seed such a plate like the stars in the sky and like the sand on the sea's beach. Your descendants shall take the cities from their enemies, 18 and in your seed shall all the people of the earth be blessed because you have heard my word. "

In total, the Hebrew word "Mal'ak" is used 197 times in the GT, and most times it is not shown to a subordinate angel / "messenger" but to "the angel of the Lord" / Jesus.

This shows us, among other things, how great Jesus is, not only limited to the description of man who crucified for our sake but also a god who had pleasure in humans and walked between men in the time of the GT.

Is Jesus an angel or God?

Jesus is also an angel, a messenger of God? Yes, but there are also others in the writing referred to as Gabriel, Mikael, etc.

God must also be seen as a "family name" when both angels and humans are referred to as God or Gods. But that Jesus is special, yes.

Let me mention 5 special things and pages of Jesus that make him unique and he has the greatest name of all.

1.) Jesus created the whole world. Kol. 1. 16 For in Him all things are created, those in the heavens and the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether it be thrones or rulers or powers or authorities; Everything is created by him and to him.

Heb. 1. 2 whom he has set for heirs over all things, by whom he has made the world.

2.) He manifested himself as the Lord's angel throughout the GT. 1 Cor. 10. 5 Nevertheless, God did not please most of them; for they were slain in the wilderness.

3.) Jesus became human like us and called the sins of the family. "He wiped out the covenant against us, which was written with commandments, which we received. It took him away when he nailed it to the cross. "Col. 2, 14. Jesus made atonement for all your sins. He was the perfect deputy of humanity's sin and shame. "For you know that there were no corrupt things, with silver or gold, you were bought free from the evil journey that was inherited from the fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as the blood of a flawless and foolish lamb." 1 Pet 1 , 18-19.

It was on Calvary, the blood was wounded and the letter of fault was wiped out. The hours Jesus experienced on Calvary was long. We know the conversation Jesus had with the robbers. He also addressed those who stood by the cross. There was a darkness all over the country the last three hours Jesus was hanging on the cross. Just before he died and gave up the spirit, Jesus said something, but nothing else from the cross will be said in the last few hours. This is where sin is done for sin. This is the judgment and the settlement is. A debt bill will be wiped out. "But God shows us love for us, because Christ died for us while we were still sinners." Romans 5, 8. It is the lamb of God who carries the sin of the world. The Savior is the substitute for humanity. When Jesus died on the cross, the natural forces are shaken. Death saw that it no longer had control over its dominion. "The tombs open and many bodies of the desirable holy ones stood up." Mt 27, 52. The veil of the temple cracked in two from above and below. In this way, Jesus made atonement for all your sins. There is no sin for which there is no salvation.

It is the empty cross and the open grave that tells us that Jesus lives and that your sin is the son. There is nothing greater than God's grace, not your sin. There is nothing greater than God's power, nor the links of sin. The open grave tells us that death had no power over Jesus. Death had no right to hold him there. Jesus is the pure and righteous one. Death faced a big problem when Jesus got there. Here there was one that it could not hold on, and death had to give him back. Greetings from Jesus are: "Do not fear! I am the first and the last and the living. I was dead and see, I am alive forever. And I have the keys to death and the kingdom of death. "Open 1, 18.

It was on the cross Jesus was made to sin for us, that we in him should be righteous to God! 2 Cor. 5, 21.

4.) He has gained all power in heaven and on earth and will reign over the entire 1000th kingdom as the King and Lord of the Kings.

5.) Jesus is the only one who has shown us who the Father is.

Heb. 1. 3 He who is the glory of His glory and depicted by His being and carries all things by the power of His power, and therefore, as He cleansed our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty

Joh. e. 14. 7 If you had known me, you also knew the Father, and from now on you know him and have seen him. 8 Philip said to him, Lord! show us the Father and that's what we are! 9 Jesus said to him, "So long have I been with you, and you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; How can you say, Show us the Father? 10 Do not you think I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words I say unto you I speak not of myself, but the Father that dwelleth in me doeth his works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father and in the Father in me; but if not, believe it for the sake of the matter!

Jesus and the angels are the creators of everything on the Father's behalf. As a director of a company, it is an owner of the company and has its subjects.

We humans are also in the position of God's servants much deeper and bigger than we think if we end up in salvation and end to end. 1. Corinthians 6: 3, Do not you know that we are going to judge angels? how much more then in timely things!


Is Jesus an Angel? Yes! But also a human being, therefore, he is the Son of Man.

Did Jesus have a preacher? Yes, that's why he could become a person who was perfect. He came to our earth and was perfect and able to complete the work the Father had predestined for him. Jesus came from heaven, the only one who has come from heaven, and become you and you like the Father's command and his will and will!

Related link:
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