onsdag 11. februar 2015

No. 875: Scripture provides a self-testimony that the Holy Ghost not have names, which Jesus and the Father!



No. 875:
Scripture provides a self-testimony that the Holy Ghost not have names, which Jesus and the Father!

God knows the end from the beginning. He could have written plainly that Trinity is unbiblical. But it is a self-testimony hidden presence of God's word. Spirit is never mentioned by name. It again tells and gives a testimony that we must never believe, teach or believe that the Spirit is a person on a par with humans, angels, God the Father, Jesus, the Antichrist, the false prophet or someone else who has his own name and is a separate person.

Illustrative image is a big question mark. What name has the Holy Spirit? Can someone to answer it, so it is possible to believe that the Holy Spirit is not only God's power and presence of God, but also a person.

 Et spørsmålstegn

God Father has both a name, identity and then a person.

Jesus Christ has both a name, identity and then a person.

The Holy not a name, identity and no person.

Here from Wikipedia about God the Father:
Yahweh (Hebrew יהוה) or Jehovah is God's name in the Old Testament (Jewish Tanak) and mentioned 6828 times there. Since Persian time has evidence that Jews avoided to pronounce this name, but said adonay "Lord", elohim "God" or just Hashem, "name", when they came to this own name because it was thought that the name was so holy and so dangerous that this should be avoided. Consequently pronunciation of the name is lost in the Middle Ages.

The Hebrew יהוה has in some contexts been transcribed as "Yahweh", in others "Jahwa" or "Yahwe (h)." These different varieties because there is no consensus about which Latin vowels that should replace Hebrew י (iodine / yod) and ו (vav / waw) in either German, English or Israeli literature, nor in Maroc. Under Norwegian rules for phonology it otherwise most natural to use consonants YHWH

YHWH is still considered by the Jews as the only true God, whose name they did not pronounce. Within Catholic, Protestant and Free Church Christianity is Yahweh or Jehovah synonymous with the Godhead, the Holy Trinity, and not tied to a particular of the three people who make up this. These churches username occasionally, but not very often. At antitrinitariske faiths, especially Jehovah's Witnesses, considered Yahweh or Jehovah as the name of the Father, who with them is synonymous with the Godhead and not part of a trinity.

Jesus from Wikipedia

Jesus is a man originally Latin names. It is formed by the Greek name Iesous which is formed by the Hebrew Jeshua meaning "God saves."

From major Norwegian encyclopedia



Jesus, also known as Jesus Christ, Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus Galilean. The central figure in Christianity. Uncertain birth. Alive in Galilee until about the year 30.

The name Jesus is the Greek form of a common Jewish name, Jeshu'a (Aramaic, Heb. Jehoshu'a, 'God saves'); Christ is the Greek of the Jewish title Messiah, the anointed. At the time of Jesus was Messiah eschatological figure; King of David who would deliver Israel. The name Jesus Christ therefore expresses the believer earliest confession that Jesus is the Messiah. The Greek Christ (eg. Christos) had not same titular timbre and was perceived as a name paragraph. Jesus dignity was therefore expressed by the title kurios, Lord, and the Christian confession was Lord Jesus, that Jesus is Lord.

In his lifetime, Jesus was probably called Jesus Galilean or Jesus of Nazareth (Mark 1.24; 10.47; 21.11 Matt; 26,69ff; Luke 24.19).

The Holy Spirit

No name, can not write about a something that does not excite.

Here from the web of the Trinity:



The Holy Spirit is the power of God. (Micah 3: 8; Luke 1:35) God sends his spirit by his direct their energy toward any place to carry out his will. - Psalm 104: 30; 139: 7.

The word "spirit" in the Bible is translated from the Hebrew word Ruach and the Greek word pneuma. In most cases aiming these words to God's active force, that his holy spirit. (1. Genesis 1: 2) But the Bible uses these words in other meanings also:

     Breathe or spiritual. - Habakkuk 2:19; Revelation 1:15 p.m..

     Wind. - 1. Numbers 8: 1; John 3: 8.

     The life force that exists in living creatures. - Job 34:14, 15.

     A person's character or setting. - 4. Genesis 2:24 p.m..

     Spiritual Persons, including God and the angels. - 1 Kings 10:21 p.m.; John 4:24.

These meanings have in common that they describe something that is invisible to humans, but that has visible effects. "Like the wind" is the spirit of God "invisible, immaterial and powerful." - An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words by WE Vine.

Bible also speaks of God's holy spirit as his 'hands' and that his 'fingers'. (Psalm 8: 3; 19: 1; Luke 11:20; Matthew 12:28 c.f..) Just as a craftsman uses his hands and his fingers when he works, God has used his spirit to bring forth such things as:

     Universe. - Psalm 33: 6; Isaiah 66: 1, 2.

     Bible. - 2 Peter 1:20, 21.

     The miracles and the untiring preaching as his servants in ancient times performed. - Luke 4:18; Acts 1: 8; 1 Corinthians 12: 4-11.

     The good qualities that characterize people who are obedient to him. - Galatians 5:22, 23.

The Holy Spirit is not a person

By referring to God's spirit as his 'hands', 'fingers' and 'breath' the Bible show that the Holy Spirit is not a person. (2. Exodus 15: 8, 10) Hands of a craftsman can not do anything independently of the brain and the rest of the body, and similarly can not God's holy spirit to do something independent of God. The accomplishments simply what God decides. (Luke 11:13) The Bible also compares God's spirit with water and put it in connection with such things as faith and knowledge. All these comparisons help us to understand that the Holy Spirit can not be a person. - Isaiah 44: 3; Acts 6: 5; 2 Corinthians 6: 6.

The Bible tells what Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus Christ, called, but no place says that the Holy Spirit has a name. (Isaiah 42: 8; Luke 1:31) When Stephen, a Christian martyr, a miracle had a vision of heavenly things, so he just two people, not three. The Bible says: "He was full of holy spirit and gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God." (Acts 7:55) The Holy Spirit was the power of God - it was the one who put Stephen able to see this sight.
Wrong Perceptions about the holy spirit

Wrong Perception: The Holy Spirit is a person and is part of the Trinity, so one gets the impression in 1 John 5: 7, 8 in some Bible translations, including the King James Version.

Fact: In 1 John 5: 7, 8 in the King James Version is these words included: "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. And these three are one. And there are three that bear on earth. "But scientists have concluded that these words are not written by the Apostle John and therefore do not belong in the Bible. Professor Bruce M. Metzger wrote: "That these words are illegitimate and not have a legitimate place in the New Testament, is certain." - A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament.

Wrong Perception: Bible personifies the Holy Spirit, and it proves that it is a person.

Fact: It is true that the Bible anywhere personifies the Holy Spirit, but this is no evidence that the Holy Spirit is a person. Bible personifies also wisdom, death and sin. (Proverbs 1:20; Romans 5:17, 21) It is said, for example, about the wisdom that it has "works" and "children" and about sin that deceives, kills and causes covetousness. - Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:35; Romans 7: 8, 11.

Jesus personified similarly the holy spirit by reviewing it as a helper who would give testimony, lead, speak, hear, preach and glorify. When the apostle John rendered the Jesus had said, he used personal pronouns masculine, "he" and "him" when he spoke of this "helper". (John 16: 7-15) But he did because the Greek word for "helper" (parakletos) is masculine and require hankjønnspronomen according Greek grammar rules. When John spoke of the Holy Spirit using neuter word pneuma, he went ahead with the impersonal pronoun "the." - John 2:16 p.m., 17.

Wrong Perception: Baptism in the Holy Spirit proves that the Holy Spirit is a person.

Fact: The Bible sometimes uses the word "name" in the sense of power or authority. (5. Exodus 18: 5, 19-22; Esther 8:10) It can be used in the same way today. One can for example say that something is being done "in a legal name," but that does not mean that the law is a person. A person who is baptized in the "holy spirit", understand and agree that the holy spirit is God's active force, and that God uses it to accomplish his will. - Matthew 28:19.

Wrong Perception: Jesus' apostles and the other disciples in the first century thought that the holy spirit was a person.

Fact: Neither the Bible or history supports the notion. Encyclopaedia Britannica says: "The definition of the Holy Ghost as a separate divine Person ... was adopted at the Council of Constantinople in 381." This was over 250 years after the last of the apostles had died.

Final Comment:

The nearest we get that the Holy Spirit is ne person is dåpsbefalingen:

Matt. 28. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost.

This is not really something own name but three properties and titles. Father and Son is also as I have explained before his own people. But the Holy Spirit ?!

That name excites not simply. But what is meant when with this? That God and the Spirit of God is there behind Jesus. Therefore Jesus is the frelsesvanet, no other names or people:

Acts 4. 8 Then Peter was filled with the Holy Spirit and answered them: "Men and Council elders of the people! 9 When we presently being interrogated because of a good deed done to a sick man and are asked how he is healed, 10 ye shall all and the people of Israel know this: When this man stands before you healthy, it by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead. 11 He is
            stone which was rejected by you builders,
            but which has become the cornerstone.
12 There is salvation in no one else, for the sky is not given people any other name that we might be saved. "

The salvation name is Jesus Christ. And therefore stands behind him God by his Spirit and has left all fullness dwell in him. It is in his name everything happens in God's kingdom and the church of God!

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