onsdag 19. februar 2014

No. 670: Explanation of eternity!

No. 670:

Explanation of eternity!

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The misunderstanding of the concept of infinity SKA site Questions about fortapelseslæren the day 18.06 and 6.21. Is there anything more difficult in Bible? Most displaces question . Person LIG I have chosen to go into the , with a motivational sensation of that something is not right . The Bible is challenging to understand here, because we are shaped by misunderstandings that maintained by Bible translation r and theology . Consider: Aion is the Greek word in the NT as translates me d eternity. The special feature is that it also translates m ed age, time (s), old-time and world. Bible user actually a word for " infinity " (Except aidios , two times ) . How to distinguish s then between time and eternity, when the Bible translated? In Jude 25 says (N B88): "Him be glory, majesty, strengthening e and power, before all TIME and now and in all ETERNITY ". Any r which has a Greek interlinear, see that the two case ne of aion translated with two different words, TIME and ETERNITY , In one verse! If the translators had remained consistent to that aion = Infinity, would obey the word " To Him belong ... power for all eternity and now and forever " . But before forever songs as impossible, so the one to be replaced with time, but not the other. Hm. And d is the more. 1 Corinthians 2:7 speaks of "the wisdom of God the hidden as Gu d FROM eternity has provided destined for our glory. " In Greek it says PRO ton aionon , Literally translating BEFORE Forever! Again, this is not possible with our understanding of infinity, so when are BEFORE the FRA, and Everlasting to everlasting. We we l find emulate NDE things in Titus 1:2 and Romans 4:25 p.m. etc. If we go to GT, we find the same. In Ecclesiastes 8:23 says " FROM infinity I (wisdom) has been inserted, from the beginning, before the earth was ". Septuagint (L X X) is a pre-Christian translation of the Hebrew Old Testament into Greek, and expr ykker this with PRO ton aionos , BEFORE eternity, if we are to maintain that aion = infinity. What is the error here? The error is that aion does not mean forever, but age (Eng. age). We see in these examples that replace infinity with age, everything becomes understandable. Feed r eternities go not but before ages is understandable . If we look so forward in Time , We find new things to wonder about. Matthew 28:20 says, "... I (Jesus) am with you all days up World end ". The word for world is here aion. Should we f astholde that aion = Infinity, here would be that Jesus is with us until the end of eternity. Again, an impossibility. In 1 Corinthians 10:11 is On the written for our admonition, upon whom the last times has come. Here comes times from aion in majority. If we retain r aion = infinity, standing here in Greek literally: to whom the ends of the eternities is come (take tele ton aion on). Again, use aion = age, this more understandable. Time s nev the ends come close. Ages, "eternal ties ", has the Which they start. Jesus is m ed us up to this present age end. When Ephesians 2:7 speaks of God to show His grace wealth against us in the coming times , It's the coming ages (aion) as described. Spring "Eternity" and sky starting at next age when the Kingdom of God is emerging . God h adde a purpose in the ages which he purposed in Christ, Ephesians 3:11. This is unfortunately also hidden in translation. They n surprising conclusion is that the Bible speaks of an eternity before creation of our world, or a future eternity by creating lsen of the new heaven and earth, - " eternities " between. Thats. it speaks of the ages in this world perspective And d eretter the newly created universe. £ 04.07. 13 2 What about the phrase in Revelation 20.10, where it says about the Devil who will be tormented day and night In ALL ETERNITY (Day and night, see 1MOS 8:22)? What is surprising is that GT user same Greek phrase in the LXX of this the world's duration. Psalm 104:5 says that the earth shall not be moved forever . But we know that the earth and sky shall pass away before the new universe is created. Thats. a t term in forever must be understood as Until last age . Should the Bible be related here, must stand against the evil cease at this end of the world. More detailed justification can be read on www.oppsiden.net . --- - So far the abridged newspaper article, the features should also have this (with some repetition): H va so the expression in Revelation 20: 10, where it says about the Devil who will be tormented day and night ETERNITY (Day and night, see 1MOS 8:22)? Forever come here fr a Greek term eis tous Aion ton Aion . If we still maintain that aion = infinity, this verbatim to Norwegian: the eternities of eternities, or eternal heat n es forever (Ie ages s ages). What does this mean? Off surprises one finds GT is that the same expression is used of this world duration. Psalm 104:5 says that the earth shall not be moved for ever. Psalm 148:6 speaks of the stars, the sun and the moon, and the law, he gave their place forever, forever. In both cases, use LXX same out pressure Revelation 8:10 p.m., as also corresponds to the strongest expression of the future in Hebrew: "Eon - duck - futurity "According meadow. heb. internal linear (eon = heb. olam , = Gr. aion) . Psalm 89:37 f says like the moon shall Davids (ie the Messiah) throne stand forever . How long is this? 1Cor 3:25 p.m. says that Christ will rule his enemies are put under his feet. This is also expressed in Heb 1:8 the Son: "Your throne, God, is for ever." Christ's dominion in forever and forever so long as the moon rises, ie up END when H depends hands over the kingdom to God the Father and God becomes all in all. Here comes the turn of the universe. After the words of that world will last forever, even forever and ever, it is abundantly clear that this Heaven and earth shall pass away. H ow hangs when this together? Our world can not both remain and pass away? The only possibility I see is that utt relegated forever (the ages ages) means the distant era, ie to the end of the world. If so, terminate the punishment of the devil end of the world, before death as the last enemy destroyed, 1Cor 3:26 p.m., and does not exist in the new earth, - for, for, period, the former things are passed away, Revelation 21:1 - 5 If this is so, the prevailing understanding, dualism (that good and evil always remained ir side page), not even a possibility. The settlement with evil occurs within the confines of this world. There are no endless punishment in the New World. There are only two possibilities, either the annihilation of the lost, or restoration, before the new univ ers appear. What about when Matt 25:46: "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." This is perhaps the main word for dualism. Again occurs a misunderstanding of a term, here the word forever, gr. aionios. I'd like t a in a next post. R K (day 24.06) suggests that the parable the rich man and Lazarus preclude an escape via ordmagi (my words). When he ignores this parable about the state of the grave before the resurrection of judgment, not Gehenna. I has not directly answered SKA's questions, only points to a framework of understanding that probably will challenge established truths. What option is, - He is right that there are directions in universalism attacked the badly basis. Maybe dualists should go quieter in the doors?

£ 04.07. 13 1 The misunderstanding of the concept of eternal The term forever is just misunderstood as the before mentioned term e vighet (Day.A . .). The NT does this from the noun aion ("Infinity", ie age), s about being the adjective aionios which translates to forever (Literally : "Evighetisk" ). In GT comes word forever in our Bible from the Hebrew word olam . In the Greek Old Testament, Septuagint , come the words aion and aionios mainly from olam . Olam comes from a word s if does cover their, hide. Dr. theol. Thorleif Boman (1959) says: " O l a m is either beyond or Chrono lo cal infinity, but TIME WITHOUT BORDERS " - ie indefinitely. Olam describes the time that go beyond the immediate time, and swine n hen is beyond our understanding and range past and future. We do not know when the begins or ends. This is the special m ed olam, which makes it may denote time under both e of a lifetime and time line k is outside this . Two examples: 2mos 21:6 is about the servant who received an awl through the ear as a sign that he should tj one's lord FOREVER (NB88). It uses L OLAM , in Hebrew. In the Septuagint reproduced this that eis ton Aiona = into the e on (Eon = age ) . In Norwegian, it almost verbatim: for eternity (Age) Which imprecisely become more common THE ETERNAL TIME That here is life. And it is the time of indefinite duration. No one knows how long someone lives. On the other hand, we have previously seen Sal 89:38 : "As the moon shall (David's throne) stand FOREVER .. ". The same expression is used here as in 2mos 21:6, eis ton Aiona , THE ETERNAL TIME . But the timeframe is a completely different and again indeterminate, but not infinite, since the moon as earth shall pass away. How is it connection. time. What about other ? We understand that to live forever time can not be the same as forever life . Adam and Eve were in danger of living forever in the fallen state, but it was eternal life. Eternal life is a specific character of life, which is to know God, John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they know thee the only true God, and him you u Tsend, Jesus Christ. " E vig use es here descriptive character. There is examples of some translations of the Old Testament where olam reproduced in whole time-independent, with the word hidden (Psalm 90:8, Ecclesiastes 3:11). Isaiah 40:28 says, "The Lord is the eternal God as created the ends of the earth. He is not tired He becomes not exhausted His sense unsearchable " . E vig associated here with properties that assumes of human limitations, not only related to time. When we go over in the NT takes over gres k e aionios s same meaning as olam in GT. 2 Corinthians 4:18 given considerable power to define: "For the visible items briefly But the unseen is eternal " . It is common to think that there be infinity up against temporality, but neither olam or aion / aionios describe infinity, but something that goes beyond the limited and close , without position taken on whether , or when , This ends the incalculable. It is God who governs. So : Adjective forever used as DESCRIPTIO e of all that go beyond (transcend) the near and limited in time and character. The eternal covenant in the Old Testament was put out by the power of God himself. But it was forever , Ie a continuous, u mutable covenant, which stretched into the future without an expiry date, still in KKE incessant. £ 04.07. 13 2 S river hove Dordt for dualism is Matt 25:46: " And these shall l go away to eternal punishment, but the fair to eternal life " . Since Augustin , have r fol following mantra sounded Because eternal life without the need also eternal punishment have no end, especially when it is in the same sentence . This can not be. Eternal does not infinite. Eternal life e r a grade of life , in all types exceeds what we now know, : it sealed in the resurrection with immortality. E vig punishment is corresponding to a character of s hit that exercised by God , Until E NDE n The settlement with the evil must end this world, and a new heaven and earth appear, wherein dwelleth righteousness. So it must be about The Bible should not contradict itself, as explained in connection. concept of infinity. More explanatory spoken of laugh's on www.oppsiden.net . ---- So far the abridged newspaper article, the features should also have this (with some repetition): A large apple and a large universe are not equal, even if it's in the same sentence. The universe can well be infinite, - that does not apple greater. Forever is an adjective that equals any other controlled by word it stands for, such as for the apple. Life and st raff are two very different things. Eternal life is the life that is Please God, by virtue of its quality. It is given to those who believe and sealed with incessant in Resurrection. Eternal punishment is composed, uncompromising, uomgjørlig punishment until the end But ask not sealed with incessant. The eternal God made an everlasting covenant with Israel. It is actually and linguistically correct. Try setting Augustin in reverse here: The eternal covenant with Israel ceased to exist, therefore God must also cease! These in Matthew 25:46 that go away to eternal punishment, Jews and Gentiles who do not get to go to the Messiah Kingdom blessings, when it occurs on Earth, but are outside, Revelation 21:8, Matthew 8:12 13:42. I have given two good argument against the doctrine of eternal punishment. Förrien ge Article demonstrates that the settlement with the evil must take place within the framework of this world. There are no eternal punishment in the newly created universe. Now pointed to excess that eternal punishment can mean punishment without end. Much confusion is created by the sauce together no of hell (Gehenna gr.), Hades (Gr. Hades) and lake of fire. Hades is a temporary phase between death and resurrection, and is relatively unimportant connection. question of incessant punishment. Still used the parable of the rich man and Lazarus in Hades that ex ple in hell. It is impermissible. Worm does not die and the fire is not quenched, taken as pictures of conscience who should stick without cessation, and God's fiery wrath. For it brought this worm that eats rotting meat. It others are unquenchable fire (Gr. asbestos) used in classical Greek for fire is so fierce that it can not stopped, not that it never goes out. Eternal fire is used synonymously in the Gospels, and in Jude 7 ( about Sodom and Gomorrah fire). These descriptions describe the punishment of those who sin m ot the Lord in the coming Messiah Kingdom (see like Isaiah 66:24), where the knowledge of the Lord shall fill the earth (Isa. 11:9). The consequence of sin is then equivalent. This is hell, Gehenna (Hinnom valley Son) outside Jerusalem, mentioned several times in the OT. The lake of fire is the place where the wicked ends, after they arose to judgment. This comes after Hades and Hell. I will not think of the end of this, I only repeat what I have £ 04.07. 13 3 shown that iIdsjøen is a transition before the new universe is created. Where God will dwell with men, to forget the sorrows of life and the joy of creation. What I have outlined is basically an understanding that contains all the elements of salvation, damnation and judgment, which is dualism, except: punishment ceases. Hv a purpose of punishment, will be a timely question for another time.

KR 31 .07.13 1 Misleading about eternity ? Thanks to A . S . for response p to my articles about terms forever and ever. A 4 5 page study terms is on www.oppsiden.net . A . S . says "Both life and punishment that Jesus gives is without end, so a straightforward reading of Matt 25:46 dictates. " This " forthright " l swell I practiced, up problems accumulated when the entirety was investigated . I added inconsistent r s When I time indication ig says that "aion only be translated with age" and ends up that "Forever and ever" must understood as "the last age " . G jennomført concordant translations are But has its weaknesses . The importance lies " age " close "Aion". The translation of idiom "Eternity" is another matter. "In every age" is more correct than "forever". "T il last age "Covers idiom meaning . It follow r of the Bible says that h in m m e l o g j o r d shall consist of eternity, yet pass away. And a t Christ will reign forever (Heb. 1:8), but also surrender the kingdom God in the end, when God becomes all in all (1 Corinthians 3:24 p.m. f). Inconsistency t in l h ø r e r d e m s o m flows r that "in all eternity "means without end, m e n s o m l in k e v e l faith r a new heaven and earth. S itate from Bible Study on the gr boxed expression for " forever and ever " well-known . At this presented as the strong ste expression of infinity , there is no problem But - What means eternity? If aion alone involves " infinite temporal extent " , Why when talking about uendeligheters infinity? And how can one when use aion time and age ("age" era), or the world? Translations and theology maintains misunderstanding r Is visible for example. in Tit 1:2 Where Greek has "BEFORE ( pro ) Eternal " While NB88 has "FROM forever named by ". BEFORE eternity go not an, so therefore FROM . V in are trained that the Bible uses olam / ai on both of bygone and future infinity . But NT and GT I have not found exception f ra rule: Because lyrics (Interlinear) user olam / aion Exclusion those of ages between creation and new creation of the world. I requested to explain terms like "Him (Christ) be glory for ever and ever", if "Forever" understood as "the last age" ( or "all ages" ) . We find similar problem in Commission: "I am with you always, to the (aion - of the age) end. " Not anymore? Of course, but it is now that we need everlasting consolation (2Tess 2:16) - persistent, unfailing comfort and a good hope, UNTIL we're home. Then we wave all this farewell, for the hope that is seen is no hope (Romans 8:24). Christ be honored through the ages That in the new creation. But the latter is not problems , for when God is all in all. Scriptural message is that God will prevail in this E WORLD, and through the ages, through Christ. Therefore, we ask "Thy will be done, as in heaven, so on earth." The eternity we await the coming era, when God raises his kingdom on earth, and all the saved occurs to immortality. This is l angel before the end, before the new heaven and earth. It was this age Jesus was talking about When he spoke of eternal life in the world (aion ! ), Mark 10:30. Rev. 1:18, that Christ was dead, but is alive forevermore , Not So e to the statement that Christ d e r e t t e r has infinite existence. He had before his death. But he shall not die more, but rule until KR 31 .07.13 2 End, where death destroyed, the last enemy. God is from everlasting to everlasting, but mainly is also Israel should stay in l andet from everlasting to everlasting hot (Jer. 7:7) . How it if eternity are before and for the two creations? I do not introduce different understanding of the eternal "life eternal" and "everlasting punishment" . In both cases describes a character that goes beyond the present . But we can not stop that eternal ang ir uendelighe t f ordinary d e t o g s to s t to r t in l n o e s o m e t t e r s in n n a t u r e r u o p p h ø r l in g , s o m in u t t r y k k e t "The e vige God " . How should we when could explain terms like "The eternal mountains were shattered" Hab 3:6? God is pr. def. the one always was, is and will be. Eternal describes his being, as in Isaiah 40:28. Eternal life sealed es with immortality, eternal punishment end in this world.

1 Still misleading about eternity? Take kk to A . S . for Posts , 16.08 . I know well the arguments of relative and absolute importance of forever, from Bible Study. I have tried to apply it, but found that the in fact introduces two meanings of eternal : Absolute eternal = infinite, and relatively eternal = finite. Finite and infinite can not covered by one word , forever. A. S. comparing the use of forever with solid. When Jesus says Mark 10:17 that b are is God who is good, then it is because people are Evil , as he says in Matt 7:11 M. M. It is KKE certainly well , against relatively well, but good versus evil. When Barnabas pulled in, we must not forget that He was born and v ar "a good man, and full of the Holy Spirit and of faith" , Acts 11:24. Was he thus relatively good ? It which was Barnabas by the Holy Spirit was just absolutely well as God himself, although Barnabas was a man also with flesh. Comparison of spores. S tudiebibelen sie r that material things have ever seen relatively, ie as fina g, we what have with God to do Must forever be perceived absolute, ie as infinity. Then it just said that finally is finite and the infinite is infinite . So what then of eternal life? How do we about forever life must be considered absolute , without end? Can we read it out forever life? No , we must find answers in context one or other places. We read cycle. that we are immortal resurrection. Eternal life is perceived when absolute , that life without end. What so with eternal punishment , M To also perceived absolute? We read that Satan will tormented day o g night in all ever, Revelation 8:10 p.m.. A main point of what I have said in ten dligere posts is , that this does not describe punishment without end. There are many reasons for this , Bl . a: The basic text in Titus 1:2 etc. show that " infinity "Aion, not denotes the time before creation , but the ages for. Likewise, neither aion denote time after the new heaven and earth, because: past ages (Aion) has come to us, 1Cor 10:11, and Christ is revealed by the ages end, Hebrews 9:26. And, Israel is given the land for ever ever, Jer 7:7, ie that "infinity" is located within the confines of this world. And, Son throne is for ever, Heb 1:8, but cessation Nevertheless, in the end, 1Cor 3:24 p.m. f to o gså Dan 6:27 says that "his lordship lasts until the end " . And, The earth shall not be moved for ever? Psalm 104:5, but will still pass away, and replaced with a new . There are thus many statements that all must implicate that the term "forever" must be understood in n for frame of this world , as all ages until the end. Taking j I error here I am left with arguments as not e s worth the ink in the day. If not, must eternal punishment TLC ear in the end, ie perceived relative t , and opposite of what we found for eternal life; and we ended up in a situation that "is so unreasonable that it knap t need to be challenged " , says Study the Bible. Either we must nevertheless accept the absolute and relative importance side by side in the same verse, or detect errors in understanding ove r . Or do like me: discard relative - absolute - argument . In covenant with grunnbetydnin tion of olam (forever in GT) realize r I that eternal not describe infinity, but border nature of the content and pass the unit outside the temporal constraints . Eternal life is a character of life by the pleasing , sealed together with immortality and This Life (True, 1 Timothy 6:19) persist without end. Eternal punishment is a grade of punishment ceases to End , when God will. An vs. Revelation 1:18 (I was dead .. but live grace forever) I rendered inaccurate . I say "he will not die more, but the rule until End. . ". It is here a cure r ant expression of both living and rule, in all 2 infinity . I do not see antics , that "to live" in reality is replaced . And f ortsatt is mission - command comparability r with the situation in Rev. 1:18. Jesus was dead, but alive forevermore, not only to exist, but exert a most important role as regent, together with their servants (Rev. 22:5) Until E Spirit. On equivalent way he us now until the end of the age and in both cases the he still be with us when they nn e world battle is over.

KR - 20 .08.13 9 It is initially demonstrated that bib el translate locks handles these concepts with apparently low level of precision compared to the original text. Mainly are quotes from Norwegian Bible 88 (NB88) , but there are indications that this is more the rule than the exception, for translations in general. Infinity Word aion translates in NT infinity, world, age, time (s), ancient, ancient days M. M. Variation is the corresponding GT. Thus, a single word, aion , Translated with the " Hereafter " - infinity , as well as it present - age and World . How can this be possible? And how do you when one or the other should be used? There are some translations that have taken the matter seriously, blah. Young's Literal Translation (YLT), and Concordant Version (see www.concordant.org ). YLT translates eternity with age And forever with ageduring . CV uses consistent the transcribed form eon for aion And eonian for aionois ( eon and eonisk the Norwegian ). The advantage of this is that the reader has sufficient proximity to the basic text, and Avoid CE . Vran g Imagine in nge r due. misleading translations . U Lemper is that it feels strange having to talk about eonisk life , Instead of eternal life. People After all, a common former speedy PROVISIONS that there is a life as stre k increases beyond this And our name on it eternal life . A more appropriate strategy may be to fill the term eternal life with proper understanding (As we shall see , - to live forever (Live forever) is not the same as eternal life ) . Similarly who ask seized God must also be filled with the correct understanding. PAST e vighet ? Wrong Forest in lling (?) which follows the concepts forever and infinity is clearly displays using one Greek - Norwegian / English interlinear. There are several Bible verses that use the term from eternity , and etc., referring apparently to the "bygone eternity" ie before creation. Tit 1:2 is one example, where it says that the promise God has given from eternity , Of eternal life. Basic text uses here pro ch Ronon aionios n , Which at norwegianised form becomes: before eonisk e time is . If you choose here to translate aionios with forever , Standing there thus before forever e time is . But this does not match our view, - where was well nothing before forever Before the "bygone eternity"? And how can there be many eternal time is ? In NB88 is then before eoniske times become out t pressure from eternity . The preposition and the majority are not taken seriously, but theology becomes so you are used to : A t there was an eternity even first, then came the creation and time and the world , where people live their short lives, and so coming eternity left up ahead. If we now rather chose to translate aion with age would look different: before eonisk time are when to before tidsalderlig e time is . This is KKE good Norwegian, but we begin to sense the meaning. Tit 1:2 talk about the promise of eternal life which God gave before time s ages ! The translation feed r eternal , would be right enough Only one understands that before forever when referring to the beginning, before Ages . In Romans 4:25 p.m. occurred m is a similar u t pressure, where it is a question of a secret that has been fortidd in eternal time is , In Greek chronois aioni o in s . This refers not to a concealment of the "bygone ages "before creation, but it refers to the bygone ages . The secret is simply not revealed in the Old Testament, but d It has now come to light through the prophetic writings that Paul has conveyed. KR - 20 .08.13 10 Ephesians 3:9 refers to the same secret, "which has been hidden from Eternal times in God. " Colossians 1:26 out t jerk that "this secret has been hidden from eternity ... ". In both cases states on Greek apo ton aionion , Which in Norwegian becomes from Aeons , ie f ra eternities , or from the ages (English is closer to the Greek, since they use the definite article the same way, in English becomes from the eons Or from the ages ). The importance tion is that in Romans 4:25 p.m., the secret was hidden from the ages, not from "Pioneer n e infinity is "Before creation. That God decided something before creation n is undoubtedly true, but it utt indented differently. In 1 Cor 2:7 speaks of "the wisdom of God the hidden s God of ordained before the world unto our glory. " The phrase in Greek is per ton aion on (Distribution before the eons / ages ), I.e. before Aeons = before Ages . Everyone perceives that before eternities not fit. God is omnipotent, but operate forever require more than omnipotence , I believe . D a look as if translators choose to take care of recognition t Theology at the expense of respect to preposition is and plural. In Jud 25 we read : "Him be glory and majesty, dominion and power all time and now and in all infinity ". Here are aion translated both time and infinity in the same verse! Study the Bible choose to be consistent and use the word infinity for aion "The Lord be our honor and glory, power and might, before all eternity and now and to all eternities ". V to get ie strange truth before all eternity . This problem disappears when age used "... Before all age and now and in all ages." NB: Before all " Eternity " does not occur in all manuscripts . More examples r This in NT are discussed in this st udiet. V in are the same in GT. In Ecclesiastes 8: 2 3 says " From eternity I (wisdom) has been inserted, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. " LXX - interline distinction renders this English as " Before the eon ( age ) he founded me in the beginning, before making of the earth. " The Greek expression eries LXX is per ton aionos = before eon . Again , if aion means infinity, f years we meaninglessness until eternity , But what it says is thus that V isdommen (Son) was inserted before Earth was, that before time (Age / " Eternity " ). Psalm 25:6 speaks of the Lord's mercy works , Which is from infinity , = from the eon , LXX. These must necessarily hear the time, not a bygone "eternity", although his grace intent had its originated before time. In Psalm 119:52 there is a so m remembering the Lord's judgments from eternity = m Oulm ( from eon ), Hebrew. This was the Lord judge the throughout history was narrated about in the Holy Scriptures , not from an unknown Bygone "Eternity". Jer 7:7 (see also 25:5 ) speaks of the land which the Lord gave Israel, from eternity to eternity = from the eon and unto the eon LXX. No one will believe this speaks of a property before creation, and any for future end. The same phrase is in Jer 25:5, about the country as "the Lord gave you and your fathers, from infinity t il forever ". And in Isaiah 45:17 we read, even: "Israel is saved by the LORD with an everlasting salvation. You will forever do not be ashamed and confounded. " It must be extremely difficult to be Replacement theology in the light of these words, but there are also other shows have tried it. H va then with the t fumes tion in Psalm 93:2: Wired is your t r o ne from ancient times , from eternity you , = from eon you , Heb. int., = fr o m the eon you are LXX. Not to speak of expression in Psalm 90:2, from eternity the everlasting God , = from eon u nt o eon you El Hebrew int erlineær . The whole verse reads in Norwegian Translation: "Before the mountains were born, and you made the earth and the earth - yes (?), from everlasting to everlasting you are God " . According to the Hebrew interline honor this should also sound e: "Before the mountains were born, and you created the earth and the world - AND from everlasting to everlasting, you are God ": KR - 20 .08.13 11 Thus, God is before creation n , who is from it farthest past to the distant future. Do we have any reason to believe that Psalm 90:2 covers a completely different perspe k tive than Jer 7 7 above ? I do not think so, although God pr. def. always has been and always will be. We shall see that olam speaks of it hidden and inaccessible . From eternity to eternity (From olam to olam) = from the distant past to the distant future . If he e r from tomorrow morning till the end of time, he is also the beginning and end, God above all things. Therefore, also his mercy not only from eternity But from eternity to infinity , Psalm 103:17, exactly the same expression as in Jer 7:7 , About Israel . It speaks of his mercy has been and always will be through time, - it is Now mercy is needed. It responds fully ten l expression everlasting consolation , 2 Thessalonians 2:16, it is not designed for "eternity" but time. I stand by this in danger of "reducing" God. That's not what I do or want to do I will only raise awareness that when we for s Sip from eternity to eternity used of God, and associate with This " from infinity to infinity " Then it is not due to expression one in itself, but the nature of God, ie . he pr. Definition WAS, IS And IS . And it is a main point connection. use of aion , and not at least aionios Where re g elen for all adjectives is that they take the form of the nouns they stands for. As I going to say several times, a large apple is not as big as a large universe, although the same adjective large used in the same sentence. 99.999% of the Bible mentions concerns purpose eon e / selves as God complete in Christ , see Ephesians 3 : 11 ( is misleading translated in NB88). We who have an unclear understanding of aion , need to acknowledge this . When it says in the Great Commission, Matthew 28:20, Jesus is with us to the very / eonens end, it does not mean that he then leaves us, just as the expression from eternity to eternity limiting God. And the statement in Dan 6:27 where Daniel's God Riek discussed: the not destroyed and his dominion until the end . Not long, yes, but we we must to face up to the Bible recognizes Enner an end to this world, where virtually a new tidregning begins, and a new world is created where God is all in all. Worth mentioning is also to 5Mos 33:27: "A housing is The eternal God , And underneath are the everlasting arms ... ". The eternal God is Elohim - of aforetime (Alei qdm) that LXX translator with Theou arche , God begins God from the beginning. Hebrew does not use olam , and LXX user not aion , However, using such KJV The eternal God . Basic text uses the words concepts with an awareness that is not reflected in the translations, and distinguishes God from the beginning / The eternal God And God from eternity (S) / Age (s) . It may seem insignificant, but this lack of general precision in dc. the expressions that are mentioned may prove to have ended in a absolutely impermissible theological Misconception . I've gone through everything I have found the passages from the Bible about this, and it is as close as possible all Bible verse, and not found one deviation from the rule - that aion and olam used over the past aimed exclusively the ages following creation. There are no "bygone infinity "Before creation. It that was before the creation discussed eg as the beginning (gr. arc h e) - "In the beginning Gu d heaven and earth ", 1MOS 1:1. Ephesians 1:4 etc. use the term before the foundation of the . The term forever and ever Or forever Has not yet been discussed. This is used many times in the NT the expression in Galatians 1:5: "He (God / Jesus) be glory for ever and ever." It may seem almost as majesty insult, when I now want to argue that infinity should be replaced with age. "Him be glory KR - 20 .08.13 14 In Psalm 89:37 f speaks of David's offspring will be forever , And his throne as the sun God face, " s about the moon shall (David's throne) stand forever .. " . This may look like as a prophecy of Messiah 'Throne . Anyway, here is said the sun and the moon shall be forever / forever . The same expression used in both cases , eis ton Aiona , = into the eon , = to (I) Eternity . Psalm 78:69 says that the earth is establish t for ever; eis ton Aiona , Again. In Psalm 148:6 speaks of the stars, the sun and the moon, and the law he gave "their place forever, forever". The expression in Hebrew l od l = Oulm for the future of eon Which LXX is expressed as into the eon an d into the eon of the eon . This is o m possible yet greater than into the eon of the eon , Which also translated in Heb 1:8 as forever . It is interesting to Note that there are various ways to express that the earth shall pass "forever". B oth it to consist forever And " in all eternity a "(" Forever and ever "), MUST ultimately end up in the same, me n is expressed with different weights . For earth and heaven will pass away, and they can not consist in perpetuity. D ette begins to fall in place. After these statements that the universe should forb l in forever, yeah in all ever, it is still Bible diverse testimony that the world s cal pass away, see section below. Only possible way to get this to hang on is that the statements forever right simply must bet own "So l angel world is. " 1MOS 8:22 says that as long as the earth remains, ... shall day and night never end. With what has been said above, and n year Revelation 8:10 p.m. express the so : "They will be tormented day and night forever ", is Conclusion one in the air, the forever must perceive tes in framework of this world. Day and night are rooted. God is light, and in his world ends Darkness . Mourning and crying and pain will be gone from the new heaven and earth, for for too!: the first thing is passed away , Rev. 21:4. It heard the old world . In Matthew 6:13 terminating ter Our Father so : "For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever ". It uses basic text into the eon s , = To / in the eternities. Yes, the kingdom belongs to Him, but in this province one of universe is not His kingdom estab lated, - they r for we ask "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so on earth. " Son shall establish the And shall surrender it God the Father in perfect order. We have seen that the Son's throne are forever (Hebrews 1:8) and his servants shall Reign forever (Rev. 22:5). A similar statement found in Dan 7:18, which says about the saints who shall have the kingdom Owning forever, yeah forever and ever = unto the eon, and unto the eon of the eon s , in the LXX ( unto and into used with variable a tion in such expressions without meaning change). I do not perceive this was in ant one expressing anything other than forever Even though this is the only place in the NB88 translation forever and forever occurs. Dan 6:27 speaks of God (Eloah) and his kingdom shall not be destroyed and that it lasts until the end . The word for end is here "into the terminus" from heb RAISK - meadow love internal linear, and in the LXX, the word for end = telos . Maybe when speaking about this the same as in 1 Corinthians 1 5 : 23f : 1 Corinthians 3:23 p.m. - 28 23 But h ver in his own order: Christ the firstfruits. Then they that are Christ's 's at his coming. 24 Then comes the end (Telos), when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he shall reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet . 26 The last Enemy that shall be destroyed is d Oden. 27 For he has put everything under his feet. But when he says that everything is subject to Him, then it is clear that He who put all things under Him is excepted. KR - 20 .08.13 15 28 But when all things are subjected to him, then shall the Son also himself subdue him who put all things under him, that God will be all in all . In Psalm 45:6, Hebrews 1:8 as quoted, is the word for God, Elohim, and in Dan 6:27 Eloah (God's name can require a study in itself, see for example www.hebrew4ch ristians.com / Names_of_G - d / names_of_g - d.html ) . It is difficult (?) understand this differently than they refers to both cases to the Son, who will reign as king of all his enemies are his subject. Then he surrender the kingdom, and even submit a look g God Father , Which is supposed to be all in all. This will be the universe most honorable abdisering. This makes it great telos , The completion of the whole purpose of having played out through Aeons / Ages. When does this happen? We have seen that j order shall consist of eternity, and of the Son dominion shall consist of forever. Thats. that the end has come when this world is passing away, and the new heaven and the new earth appears. V in see then that " eternities " / Ages / Aeons ends with the formation of the new universe. At the same manner in which is a beginning, there is a end, and among these is " eternities " / Ages / Aeons. Scripture speaks neither about a bygone eternity, or about a future eternity outside respectively the beginning and end , - they between. Then this statement perhaps a trusting Opinion : Revelation 10:13 p.m. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. J I will point out that there exists diverse views on expression the eon (S) of the eon (S) Scroll. because there is something variation expression (with and without plural etc.). Some would argue that the variation the eon of the eon s (Ephesians 3:21) , Corresponds to the expression is found for the most holy, as in the LXX (Greek NT) expressed as the holy of holies the And aims to the n past and then assumed the chief of all ages . Likewise argued that the eon s of the eon s , referring to the last two ages, the penultimate ages are Mil l Enni . This is again by comparison with the holy and the holy of holies in tabernacle, but I find this to be unfounded. There you also made comparisons with the expression the sons of sons , Which is the Hebrew the expression for grandsons, that the sons of sons, which expresses rek k EFollow and that one come out of it andr e . Heaven of heavens is also one, and does not describe a number h Imler, since the third heaven already is the paradise of God (2 Corinthians 12:2). But I do not think this is relevant. M possible should be careful not to attach special significance in what is due to natural variations in language. Time can be referred to both the singular and fl ISNUMBER without it necessarily means anything, likewise skies and heavens, eon and eons etc. , Without thereby exclude that any of they t t e also k have an special meaning in certain contexts (In Norwegian, we also use the word trousers is , Just as well as pants, surely because there are two legs of which form one unit) . It determines Importance of expression forever is neither tabernacle - comparisons or another, but that the LXX translator direct the Hebrew eon and futurity with the Greek the eon of the eon . The e r further reasonably clear that the eon of the eon is synonymous t with the eons of the eons (See said mmenligningen over, re Heb 1:8 and Rev. 22:5). Both the Hebrew eon and futurity And the eon ( s ) of the eon ( s ) expresses something like of the furthest of the Far , ( within the perspective of this world). Finally, I will comment Revelation 14:9 - 11: KR - 20 .08.13 16 9 And another angel, the third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship is animal and his image, and takes mark on their foreheads or their hands, 10 he shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out his anger beaker. And he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 The smoke of their torment rises forever . They have no rest day nor night, those acces is beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. This is also taken as a description of the torments of hell "for eternity". But the context shows this belongs in the tribulation period , The 70 åruke in Daniel's Prophecy (Dan 9:23 f), before Millennia occurs. D continue dealing with the agony they incurred denn e period of time hopping WORSHIP beast and his image. Isaiah 30:27 and 34:10 using similar images in Revelation. Isaiah 34:10: "Neither night nor day shall be quenched for ever t id be the smoke of it rise up. From generation to generation shall lie waste, never drag someone through it. " This deals with the judgment of Edom .. The streams thereof shall be turned into brimstone, land burning pitch (34:9). Equilib e l will pelican and the porcupine and more other animals live there. In both these cases it is natural to understand the smoke as a testimony of the judgment. Similar d e description is given about judgment of Babylon: Revelation 6:16 p.m. f 16 Woe, woe, the great city! You clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and who desire e of gold and precious stones and pearls - so great riches is destroyed in one hour ! 17 Every officer and every shipmaster, and all the sailors, and all who travel on the sea, stood far away, 18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning And said, Who is like unto the s tore city? Rev. 19:2 f 2 For true and righteous are his judgments. For he hath judged the great whore, which corrupted the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3 And again they said, Alleluia! Her smoke rose up forever infinity . The smoke that rises up forever and ever may not be the judgment itself, but rather testimony it (As Abraham saw the smoke of Sodom and Gomorrah, 1MOS 7:28 p.m.) . The everlasting gospel mentioned in Revelation 14:6, also seems to deal with a message of Baby lons case (whatever Babylon represent) And the testimony of its case, stand the future , Until the end . Earth and sky will pass away Where are many statements in the Bible that the earth and heavens will pass away. About the new heaven and earth is a total new creation, or rather a recreation of this is, I do not know if I can answer. But whatever the Bible speaks clearly about a distinction between d Vivienne creation and the new. Already 1MOS 8:22 denote day and night will never end, - ie as long as the earth says: 1MOS 8:22 22 As long as the earth remains hereinafter, the sowing and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night never end. KR - 20 .08.13 17 It is given as an insurance policy after the flood, and seem to respond to the covenant with day and night mentioned in Jer 33:20 , as is as secure as the covenant with David about a prince (the Messiah). Already here we see the context of a Messiah kingdom, which should last as long as this world order exists. So, we can mention the: 2 Peter 3:6 f 6 Whereby the world that then-under, d a it was flooded by water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word are kept in store. They are held up until the day that ungodly men of judgment and perdition. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then s cal heavens perish with very bump and heavenly bodies will come in fire and disintegrate And the earth and all that is built on it will burn up. 2 Peter 3:12 12 while you are waiting for the day of God shall come, and accelerate it. Then the heavens dissolved in fire and celestial bodies melt in fire. 2 Peter 3:13 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. The Greek word for perish Is parerchomai . It means literally to "pass, pass by," and metaphorically "Pass away, two p Erish "( Vine). It bukes 27 places in the NT . In the latter meaning it is used for example in James 1:10 on the kingdom shall pass away as the flower of grass, and in 2 Corinthians 5:17 M. M., mentioned below. We f inside the same word again too in Revelation 21:1: Revelation 21:1 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth. For the first heaven and the first earth were passed away ( parerchomai ) And the sea is no more. You see that John that the first Heaven and earth are passed away And a new heaven and earth is occurred. True enough, does it g Reks word for new here are not necessarily new in time, it can also mean new in nature (Greek has two words new ) . What that means, if the new universe has been created parallel, or if it is a total transformation, what do I know. It sounds much the same as 2 Corinthians 5:17: " Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed ( passed away) Behold, all things have become new "Ie, new in character, and it will also be new in and with a glorious body, but person ity is the same. Whatever so John that the first heaven and earth took place. And Psalm 102:26 - 28 says: Psalm 102:26 - 28 26 In ancient times established the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. 27 They shall perish But you remain. They will all wear out like a garment, like clothing changes them out And they are replaced. 28 But you are the same, and your years will no end . KR - 20 .08.13 18 It is said therefore that earth and heaven will pass away , Unlike God to stand. And we have the same in several places in the Gospels: Matt 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away ( parerch omai ) But my words shall not pass away ( parerchomai ) . See also Matthew 5:18, Mark 1:31 p.m., 4:17 p.m. Luke, Luke 9:33 p.m.. The Bible says that heaven effort should shaken: Matt 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light. The stars will fall from the sky And powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (See also Luke 9:26 p.m., Mark 1:25 p.m.). Heb 12:26 - 27 26 Whose voice then shook the earth. Me n now he has promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not only earth but also heaven . 27 And this word, yet once more, to know that those things that are shaken will be removed . For they are the created things. And then what can not be shaken, be halts the. And finally: Revelation 8:11 p.m. 11 I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it. Whose face the earth and the sky away, and the place was found for them . What this means, I can not answer, but both this and Hebrews 24:27 seems to talk about something so m being taken away. It's time to look at the two aforementioned verse in the Old Testament, containing the terms forever In light of the which is fremkommmet the Bible verses above: Psalm 104:5 5 He established the earth upon its support, it shall not be moved in all evi ility . Psalm 148:4 - 6 4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that are above the heavens! 5 They shall praise the name of the Lord, for he commanded and they were created. 6 He set them in their place forever, forever ( forever ). He made a law that none of them switch. After Psalm 104:5 say that j order should not be moved forever, yet the Bible says that both heaven and earth shall be shaken even in the future And that those things that are shaken will be taken away. It becomes difficult to argue that Earth never ever be shaken. Thus, forever must be understood within the scope of this world. Psalm 104:6, the last part, reproduced in the LXX as: He made an order and it Shall not pass away ( parerchomai ) . When we read that the powers of heaven shall be shaken , they be pass away with very Brackets And that heavens and earth KR - 20 .08.13 19 will pass away and rolled up like a robe and replaced, it must again be hard to believe other than that the order shall not pass away forever Only need apply in n the framework of this world. World both the eternity, and pass away. D vs. that forever must mean end of the world . They support is one argumentation line. But there are also several other lines which clearly shows that forever must understood within the context of this world. As Christ's h errdømme doomed to end, to Despite the fact that it is said to eternity (Heb. 1:8). Both 1Cor 3:24 p.m. f and Dan 6:27 says this independently. And to excess is said that in the past ages has come, 1Cor 10:11, and that Christ is manifest in tidsald Rene's end, Hebrews 9:26, which means that forever and ever not mean an infinite number of ages up ahead. And for the right to spoil myself away with arguments Even before all is said : from eternity to eternity , Comes within the scope of this world, since it refers to Israel housing in the country. Finally it should be noted that it is not easy to understand all of this to review connection. that world to pass away. It may seem as if it referring to two begiveheter, one at entrance of the millennium, and the transition after the final judgment , to the final new heaven and earth. And I have a f o rnemmelse that the former is a kind of model for the latter, as is millenni partly a kind m odell for the final condition of d And it seems to me that the term the new heavens and new earth to partly used for both. Revelation 6:12 - 14 12 And I saw when the Lamb opened the sixth seal - and see: There was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth , As a fig tree casts its unripe figs down when shaken by a strong wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together. And every mountain and island were moved out of their places. D parietal verses sight s for me to refer to the tribulation, and the judgments which precedes establishment of the millennium. And some of the same language use We see here which 2Pet 3:6 f, but due. context must be understood to refer to various events. And it is likely that also M att 24:29 etc. listed above , refer to the same event as Revelation 6:12 - 14 . Similar things we read in Acts 2:19 f, which in turn comes from Joel's prophecy about the events related to the Messiah coming and going among his people " after the flesh " And make a the captivity of Jerusalem , See Joel 2:27 - 3:1 f All this concerns introduction to what is called the Day of the Lord (Joel 3:4, 2Pet 3:10 and others), and denotes the final stage in history where the Lord decide where the cabinet will be (through Millennium where Satan email r bound and judgment period after). The term the new heavens and new earth occurs a few places in the OT : Isaiah 65:17 f 17 For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth. And the former things shall not be remembered, no be more remember them. 18 Yes, glad and rejoice the 're forever in what I create! For behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. KR - 20 .08.13 28 resurrection, that scroll. Revelation 20:6 speaks of: "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power. They will v honor God and Jesus priests and reign with him in thousand years'. Eternal fire is the character of God against sin. It is unchangeable. Eternal punishment is inappelabel, uomgjørlig punishment Whose duration and content only God knows. The mark of this is, like everything else forever As largely hidden from us here and now. But it is impossible that this has to do with punishment without end , as already demonstrated. Sodom and Gomorrah " is as such for our ø eyes and and suffer punishment one eternal fire " , Jud 7 They are set as an example of the wicked life in the future, say 2 Peter 2:6, perhaps term end to Rev. 20:9, which does not refer to the judgment of the great white throne, but the judgment affects people's last rebellion against God. The eternal ilds effect was short-lived. Sodom men shall rise in the judgment, and d eres penalty shall be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone. But this is not something that is without end. Several verses speak of being saved from God's wrath, for instance Rooms 5:9, ie, a wrath that will frame before God's kingdom come (and whose term k onsekvenser through the upcoming age). His afire has been shown in various ways over time, and it will do so in the future of those who have delighted in unrighteousness, 2 Thessalonians 2:12. In 2Tess 1:8 said that "He flaming fire taking huh vn ("out - justing ") on them that know not God, and that not obey our Lord Jesus Christ. " If the penalty for sin was meant to be without end, how could Jesus, as our substitute, return from the dead after three days? About our stra ff would be eternal punishment in eternal fire, and had so his punishment be. Or, I / we misunderstood something here? Punishment for sin is death ( separation from God, not incessant torment) And Jesus suffered the death. In Romans 5:21 and 6:23 there is death and eternal life as are opposites. Therefore, eternal penal f can have something else to do. Justice and judgment is side of it. But it is also conceivable that it should b evirke restoration? We are it "First death" and from death comes life through Jesus Christ. Can there Also coming life of the second death ? A timely matter is ie criminal intends to bring people the truth recognition (Eng. remedial ), Or whether it concerns retaliation (Distribution retributive ). I mean that the purpose with punishment from God s side in prin s in PPET is to bring people to knowledge of the truth, so that the can return to their creates And rebellion against God's authority ceases . God let punishment frame Son that we might be rebuilt to fellowship with God. Those reject the victim, must take punishment itself. What if this were causing all bow the knee to Christ, God can forgive be fair, due. Jesus' atonement. Christ experienced all aspects of death , both physically and spiritually. H was an forced into death of Satan s AIM Elser And men eskers cruelty, but even under loss of fellowship with the Father, he showed for all the powers and authorities, he was fair. He bore everybody's sin, no one reproachful words. There was no justice; their disposal in that death should have no claim on him. Therefore , death could not keep him. He was a foreign element in death, and was there to fulfill S PRINTING that after three days he was to occur . I have read theories about how one m anns sin can pay "evigv Arendt "punishment for all Despite Jesus only was three days in death. The e r a type of "math" j I not recommended for any but it is part of theology around this. I have my own views on the : KR - 20 .08.13 29 God is no less willing to forgive than us, denn e will is one of the key assumptions for our salvation, - it only that he can not break the principles of justice. There are no ro in the universe, about God does not even act fairly. He is not a despot who controls the injustice of creatures required more off than by himself . Nor can he see through his fingers with one sin. For d a is the foundation of justice sp o trolled. He can not but appear as moral impeccable, though there should ever be harmony in heaven and on earth . And it was this that was Satan's strong hands, that God generation after generation not punished sin. God was unfair, - he had removed Satan's sin, but then wink at an dres . Jesus' death were loose e mon for God, as well as for us (Pe rson is the only (?) perspective I see who can explain how é n man's death may apply to everyone, you can not just punish é n all, - it's cheating, if this is qualified as Parties agreed) . L øsepenge speaks of a " a vtalt price " , under certain conditions and requirements. Satan demanded the Son of God in his sold (as he demanded Adam , - in the name of justice, God could not simply dismiss Satan without evidence that those who took management of this world, was better ; temptation in Eden was not Ridiculous ) Yes e ndog try him completely in death. It was a just claim. Could he showed injustice the anointed one Would Satan could invoke its position return. D a was there still no second was more Worthy and fit the parish sauna room. Was Jesus s fair, would the penalty that hit him , apply for the genus, - God thus redeem and pardon for his heart, and be fair to Satan and against all. How could " Agreement " is principally have been . I do not think God decided these things sovereign itself, it is contrary to realities In such a situation, where in fact Satan set of supremacy t of the genus. And Powers the universe would look fairness of it. The e next was shown injustice was Jesus. And d the only one with the Divine Mind could wear something like , Utav love for the Father and to the world . I quote from memory: "What would the u n arious be without a Lamb? ". Thus, criminal f one affected have m that we might have peace, and by his wounds we are healed, Isaiah 53:5 . They n's sins can now get tilgivels e, whatever sin. Hitler Breivik like myself. The last problem that remains for God, is that people continue in their enmity against him . That God has reconciled ve rden with itself, through Jesus C in s tus , is not alone enough that everyone bow to his authority, whereby his dominion in heaven and on earth can be restored . B Islands we Us not for His goodness, we must experience his strictness, Romans 11:20. It is in this perspective that God's upper Dec sentences have meaning Although there are many side r by God's judgment . Those who despise God justice open Bar t at C ice tus should perhaps see it in the sentence? In Revelation 15:4 says: "Who would not fear you, O Lord, and glorify thy name? You alone are wholly l ig, and all people One will come and worship before thee , because your right final judgments are made manifest t ". I have previously mentioned that 1 Corinthians 15:2 4f says end comes when Christ hands over the kingdom to God and Father, after all principality and power is destroyed. He ska l reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet . This is effected in through the last age, the judgment s day. It does not reflect an annihilation. Rooms 2:11 p.m. says: "As I live, saith the Lord, for me should each knee bend and each tongue praise God. " And File 2:10 "In Je s u name shall each knee bend , As their in heaven and on earth and under the earth ". This is the situation when Aeons / Ages / "Eternities" going to end, and the new heaven and the new earth is created. We will al le bow the knee to Christ. We can do it now and inheritance all things with him, or to do it when the Lord comes in power and glory To judgment And tape this possibility. But God is rich enough for everyone, and that will be all in all, will he not also announced e dry the tears of those who heard the gospel? Is not the work of Christ greater than the fall of Adam, who pulled us all into death, either KR - 20 .08.13 32 this world and a new world is created, wherein dwelleth righteousness, 2 Peter 3:1 3 Secondly, d is not two categories of time (Within Aeons / eternities / Ages ) : Eternity is time outside spring limited existence in Present , In biblical language. However, there are two categories of existence, deadly or immortal. The last beteg tions it Eternal life in its fullness From our perspective here and now . Eternal indicates a grade description that is foreign to the temporal. The eternal covenant was for everyone Israelite covenant that line tea into the distant future as unchanging and consisting , but termination tea anyway. E vig denotes not Infinite e ity connection. time dimension But indefinite duration . The eternal God is forever by his character, that is, his understanding is unsearchable, he ceased not He was, is and will be, - and because He is God, we understand that he never ceases to be God. But it is the word forever alone makes a t we believe it. If we say: "The eternal God made an everlasting covenant with Israel", as it is both actual t ic and grammatical properly. We know that the covenant ceased. If we then running Augustine's reasoning in foxes s, it means that God Also cessation e r , But we know that it H an IKK e can do. The error lies in attributing the adjective , quality, same quantity in both cases. The big apple and the vast universe is not equal because the adjective is the same e and stands in the same sentence. They are two completely different things, and limited Unlike quantity in terms of the noun it stands for, although they describe a common quality , - forever . This is normal when using adjectives. Therefore, neither Matt 25:46 um uliggjøre that eternal life persists (And sealed with immortality) , although punishment ceases, - seals v we only see clean Grammatically on this. Eternal Hot, aion , denotes indefinite duration , and aionios is character description if the duration is different because it are two very different nouns. In addition, coming also that eternal life we ​​receive in faith here, sealed with Immortality in Resurrection. It is explicitly stated that we should turn into immortality, and can no more die. Eternal itself brings ik ke this information itself. For eternal punishment does not say anything accordingly. There is nothing to indicate that the penalty should be made permanent nent and without intermission ever. Secondly, it is shown former the context in s ikter the special sit u a tio tion by entrance to the Kingdom of Christ, where the nations be judged for the Son of Man glorified throne. Eternal life denotes the life in Christ Kingdom, and eternal punishment is to be shown away from this blessing. Eternal life consists here through the age to by s in quality in knowing the Lord But Scripture suggests that death also limits here, see Isaiah 65:20 and 66:24. Eternal punishment is a punishment which God administrative t rein, and uomgjørlig and composed. But it is not without end. Vengeance of eternal fire on Sodom and Gomorrah were short-lived. The concept of eternal fire and unquenchable fire used about each other in the Gospels. In Hjort's Compendium 1996: "Hell - Yes, eternal torment - No " quote from Evangelii Fuller, Dr. Ekman, P. 63: "Finally, we recall that the Greek word asbestos is translated by unquenchable , Absolutely not have the meaning you put into it. On the contrary, occur in profane Greek, especially in Homer, that provision of such words show that not speak about something that will never end. It is used for example for glory, lazy ter, shouts, and the violent but short-lived fire that consumed the Greek fleet. And Eusebius says twice its Church History (Church History, b 6, p 41) that the martyrs were consumed by unquenchable fire . Of course extinguished the fire, but the word used to emphasize the violence of fire and violence. " Study the Bible operates (See above) with a understanding that constitute an absolute and relative importance of aionios : When aionios used connection. Feeder in tional things and earthly life, perceived it in KR - 20 .08.13 33 relative importance tion, accounting for a long period of time, life, as long as the mount ne stands etc. When used for God and the Hereafter, Hereafter, referring to the unlimited time, ie eternal in absolute terms. I find that this just confuse the issue, and provides forever n ærmest two meanings. E vig has not two meanings . D is a noun or any other circumstances determines the duration of the discussion s Eternal on time specifies itself indeterminate for time / future , beyond the present , and that is d é h And, the neglect r that ever used idi omatisk (figuratively), and is a character description , where tidsutstrek tion is more a result of the quality rate than opposite. Eternal life is to know God , ie v glory in His presence and fellowship p It life which was unavailable and concealed lt is to be available And consists in knowing God. Gehenna, Hades & Lake of Fire There has obviously (?) been a persistent and dominant misconception regarding the words forever and infinity in the official k grating device . It has given us d one shocking learn n about eternal torment . Not only the words forever and ever and ever misunderstood and the meaning of prepositions overlooked, but words as hell, Sheol t and that lake has been sauces together to mean pretty much the same. Parable D one r ike man and La Sarus in d ødsriket has been taken as an example of the state of hell, and added the incessant. Regardless of how one understands the parable, - Hades is only between the state before the resurrection of damnation. The narratives in the Gospels about the worm does not die and the fire in KKE extinguished, is also taken as example of the state of hell, and shall allegedly continue without cessation , some anger. And the lake of fire is been taken the same as hell. Part of the reason these P fores t Illing Set in a wrong understanding of the coming e ones, the coming ages. Dominating learn directions have operated with a form where small t e Event is "eternity" with the new heaven and the new earth. One then has no opportunity to placing hell and / or the lake of fire elsewhere than in the upcoming "e vighet " as a reality in the new earth. So much confusion due. which many believe means little: Why should we care o m to understand the Bible's outline or eschatology , - what comes , it comes. This undergo åelsen view it is essential to f orstå it outline as Bible worker below, to be able to understand also basic questions. I would be 56 years before I even Now experience that things begin to fall into place (?) , - questions that previously h ar threatened to from take me faith. It has bothered me since I was 15 Not that God will judge the world, there is reason enough to believe him, - otherwise there is no justice. But this infinity of suffering seems so aimlessly. And it becomes very difficult to think that God Actual isk allegedly allowed the suffering without end. As omniscient and omnipotent creator, he knew what was coming when he put it all started, and we must Stop depriving God responsibilities and add more on people than it deserves . We are not irresponsible, far from it, but the e r After all, God is omniscient, and that creates and maintains And that have the power and wisdom to complete his advice. NT distinguishes Gehenna ("hell"), Hades (Sheol), and the Lake of Fire. Gehenna comes from it Hebrew word "ge Hinnom" , means Hinnom valley. Some observers argue that this was one valley outside Jerusalem where the city's waste was burned / eaten by worms. Body n e to death row for switches sea net KR - 20 .08.13 38 Beginning and end It's already said something about asking beginning (arche) and end (tel os). I b egynnelsen was thus this world created and will terminate at the end, when the new Heaven and earth are created, where righteousness dwells. I have shown that the use of the word Bible olam and aion , Which denotes the we call eternities, or ages, limited by the beginning and the end. Where fi nd simply not there we by the Norwegian B Ibels k vast eternity before creation , or after end. I take one last reality check on this and cites Isaiah a s ' statements about the new heaven and earth: Isaiah 66:22 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make will remain forever for before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name is, remain forever . If what I have said is correct, should not expression forever could be used at the time by end. It should simply be left as it stands above a r about the new heaven and earth. But it does not. ISA Hebrew - English interlinear shows that expression forever just a inclusion in NB88. "Past infinity" is referred to as the beginning, before the foundation was laid before the ages or LIG lar. The eternity we await , is the age to which we arise in immortality, and to see God's kingdom in its glory, and inherit all things of the anointed. Then comes the judgment, and so end, with the (Final) new heaven and the new earth, where r ettferdighet live. I have dwelt a little on the new heaven and earth under section Heaven and earth will pass away And said it also aimed at a transformed ground during millennia. But not only that, and to the extent term also describes the final state, where the age is no longer a relevant term (but belongs to the ages), one should expect other expressions of persistence. And what we see is case, as shown above. The purpose of Aeons Ephesians 3 : 5 speaks of the previous generations Where secret hot n of Christ and the ecclesia (church) was not revealed. In Ephesians 3:9 referred to the same secret was hidden eternal in God ( from the eons ). This is not referring to a past eternity, but in previous eras, corresponding to what Ef 3:5 expresses so m previous generations (see also Colossians 1:26, here are both expressions together). Then Ephesians 3:11, where translations (both NB88 and KJV) hides matter. Here we read "This his eternal purpose , Which he purposed in Christ .. " (" According To the eternal purpose Which he purposed in Christ .. ", KJV) . Basic text says (Bible Study), "according to eternal heat rs intent as he did in Christ (This is imprecise; aion is ask s tamed form: eternities s / the ages hen term) . ISA interlinear, "in accord with The purpose of the eons wooden He makes in Christ " : Bagster interlinear: "According to (the) purpose of the eons wooden he made in Christ. " ISA's aorist (?) - Rendering is most correct. Thus, there is a purpose of the ages, which is completed in Christ. U ttryk k and an emphasis on Aeons / Ages / eternities made for a purpose between beginning and the end, I not Set until now. It has been hidden the translators' "good theology", it may look like. KR - 20 .08.13 39 Norwegian Bible 88 Initially it was shown to NB88's focus to strive for a concordant translation, and avoid meaningful translation (idiomatic translation). Regarding the words forever and infinity I must state that they have not succeeded, but seems rather to translate for good tea theology, than what is. In this way they are helping to conceal the fundamental realities, and thus continue one Tragic Misconception . Or is it just me who is wrong? NB88 and many other translations have much to correct in terms of translation words forever and forever, to hold me to this. But I do not think that the way to go is to follow the example of Young's Literal Tr anslation and Concordant Version, although these translations has its value. It have established good Norwegian word that renders the Greek meaning in different contexts. I do not think it is possible to consistently translate something into a readable text at a concordant translation. And I think that translate lse without render meaning, may seem as wrong as to render appropriate words . Now r to in Additionally, claims to have translated idi omatisk and equal well predisposes to specific understanding , then it is doubly wrong. It's better to v honor open about that accounts for a specific for understanding of the important points, and provide access to basic text, footnotes, and u tfyllende attachment. Maximum damage is may not s k Jedd connection. aion , But using the prepositions in front forever and etc., have been mistranslated. Aion has its difficulties, but prepositions should be easy enough (?) . The adjective forever might retained for the used as an idiom, and should still be used forever life, and forever, just that the meaning is emphasized. Word infinity is perhaps the hardest to keep. Etymologically come infinity Or Aeve in Norwegian, from aion . The Old Norse AEVI Or AEF in , replied to latin 'search æ vum and the Greeks aion, and originally had the same meaning as these, i.e. life lev e time era. Latin also has words Aeternum (Forever) and Aeternitas (Infinity), which comes originally from the same root as æ vum . The Norwegian words forever and infinity thus after all judge recorded in a different sense than what aion and aionios represents the corresponding Aeternitas and Aeternum . The table below provides some " preliminary " suggestions for possible translations of aion and aionios in the NT, which can possibly extended GT. If necessary, they can act as footnotes with the comb sk e expression, If the "traditional" translation retained. KR - 20 .08.13 41 Summary 1 Eternal life - true life, one characteristic r of life is to know God and have jointly with Ha m  L IVET was from the beginning in the Father and the Son by the Holy Spirit  L IVET - it Eternal , is beyond our limitations in character and fullness  LIFE - eternal, can be received through the ages by faith  LIFE - the eternal will pass by their nature to know God  LIFE - eternal, sealed with Immortality and immortality in the resurrection of life  LIFE continues to God sus veins and have been all in all  2 Eternal punishment - uomgjørlig punishment as God manages and that lasts as long he will  Eternal punishment has beginning and end (as the eternal covenant GT )  Eternal fire is the character of God against sin 3 Eternal life and eternal punishment in Matthew 25:46  Life and punishment for people in the age to come when Millennia occurs ( Revelation 20:2 - 5) 4 Infinity - olam (GT) - aion (NT) = Undefined time beyond present , Past and future d  B rukes of time with u specific beginning or unknown duration, outside Present , Time lost in the distant past and future , Off known, t ilgjengelig and foreseeable time  Used both of u specific time Lif d, the stray the age , as long verde n stands, but denotes itself not infinite; Greek word used here aid in o s  Eternities = tidsald re / era / eons, and is currently ( e ) between beginning beginning (ARCHE) and the end (TELOS)  The past ages has come, 1Cor 10:11, and Christ was revealed at the end of the ages, Heb 9:20; thus the term eternity does not mean an infinity of ages  The purpose t with evi Ghetar / ages / Aeons Finish es through currently Christ innti l end (TELOS), when he surrenders supremacy to the Father, and the new universe is created, wherein dwelleth righteousness  The eternity and sky we are waiting for is the age to which we arise to LIFE in immortality and God occurs on Earth , Then comes the new universe, which is 5 Eternal - olam - aionios - " evighetisk " = Non - temporal , consisting character , The exceeds / transcends our cups n solutions  Olam - comes from a word meaning hidden, unknown  E vig represents the hidden and inaccessible, it is beyond our reach in time, knowledge and experience  Eternal describes everything that goes beyond our limitations in character and duration; duration indicated by the word it stands for, or other info rmation  The large Apple and the vast universe is not as large, and so so with the adjective eternal ; they eternal mountains were shattered (Hab 3:6) and GT's eternal e pact have varying terms  The eternal God carries all the characters that can be described by the eternal: inscrutable, imperishable, unfailing, etc., but he always was, is and will be, we know because he is God To live forever (Live forever), 1MOS 3:22 ≠ Not equal to Eternal life KR - 20 .08.13 42 Eternal time Eon / ages / eternities - 99.999% of the Bible's focus - "The purpose of the ages " 6 From eternity to eternity = 99.999 % Of biblical focus: God Kingdom will prevail in it ne World 7 Forever = as long as the world stands, the last age / eon (All ages) F FOLLOWING (Ia) is said to last, - or must be understood to last, forever (= The tidsaldres ages = into the eon (s) of the eon (s) ) Ie the last age before the new creation of the universe , end : Universe (Soil , sun, moon) , Sal 104:5, 148:6 - Goods " forever " - but shall perish in E Spirit Son domination , Heb 1: 8 (Ps. 45:7 f) Dan 2:44 - goods " forever " - but terminates in end His kingdom will not be destroyed - but goods ("only") to end, Dan 6:27 Then coming E spirit, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all rule and all authority and power . For he must reign king to he hath put all enemies under his feet. Lamb servants, Revelation 22:5 - kings "Forever" => until end S Traffen of Satan lake of fire , Rev. 8:10 p.m. - forever => Until the end Death , The s list enemy destroyed in E Spirit, 1 Corinthians 3:26 p.m. Eternal life LIFE GOD From eternity to eternity = From age to age = From olam / eon to olam / eon GOD END NY HEAVEN AND EARTH GOD ER ALT In ALL The first things are departed away GOD BEGINNING END KR - 20 .08.13 43 Conclusion It is said relatively much (?) on small (?) space, and everything is not as well justified, or to be given same weight. It is main story in this study are illustrated in the sketch below. The old understanding that the past eternity was before the creation of this world, and the future eternity comes after the creation of the new heaven and earth, must reassessed . The biblical reality, as I see it , is that e vighetene, i.e. time s ages, Aeons, is between These acts of creation. INCORRECT (?) : MORE CORRECT : E N D E N B E G Y N N E L S E N Gehenna That which was from beginning before Ages 1 John 1:1, before the foundation Ephesians 1:4 Ages / "Eternities" / Aeons It being before God Isaiah 66:22 The Eternal - Kosmos - World Upcoming age Life Dom Lake of Fire 70'de year - week Daniel New Heaven and soil Life - the eternal Eternal punishment Eternal life Eternal life E N D E N B E G Y N N E L S E N Hell / Lake of Fire F ortidig infinity Ages Future e vighet Eternal life Kosmos - World New Heaven and soil KR - 20 .08.13 44 S ubstantivet " infinity " , aion in Greek, olam in Hebrew both represent indefinite time beyond temporal and into foreseeable past / future And responds closely to our word age , meadow. age Or era . Olam comes from a word meaning hidden, secret . As an adjective denoting the character a v any as in all properties are beyond our limit , reach and experience, where the duration Hazards es of the noun it stands for, or otherwise information. Eternal life is a character of life existed in beginning and entered the time when Jesus Christ. It may received and experienced by Spirit, but experienced in its fullness in up s Tanda And characterized by know the Lord . There is also a level of eternal life in the age to come when Christ Kingdom occurs on earth. Although the eternities / Ages ends does not end everlasting life as k arakter of life , for it is from before " e vighetene "/ Ages . And eternal life is the name we give it from this our limited perspective, since it is now the hidden and inaccessible character. But when we must assume eternal life is nothing hidden, and we s Cal might not congratulate each other with eternal life in resurrection, then we are in Life And it shall remain before God in the new universe. The taste of eternal life we ​​already receive here sealed with immortality in the resurrection. One consequence of that "eternities" / ages ending in the large telos Where God becomes all in all, and d a new universe is created, is that all pain , Sorrow and death ends. The settlement with the evil belongs to this world, and must cease when the new heavens and earth appear; righteousness speeD live. Death destroyed as the last enemy, death, ie separation between God and men Liquids not longer possible. Where can simply be no creature in the new universe to appear away from the sight of God to a new death. How can there be nothing left that do not fit r in, or may be the source of evil, when Death is gone and God is all in all? Thats. that the D ualismen, it prevailing understanding n that good and evil must always exist side by side, is not even is a possibility. One of krist unit's most fundamental e dogma thus appears as P learn. "Eternal punishment "In conservative understanding punishment without ceasing, is not Biblical thought. The remaining options are rash the hands of the wicked, or give nopprettels E. Even I believe that s list option has a not insignificant support in this light that emerged (And others) , without I have a conclusion here , and can not be dismissed as the deadlock e it has been manufactured as , from conservative side. The positions are now reversed his head. Yes, it is completely necessit ndig for forever life in the age to to confess Jesus as Lord now, and it is this belief fundamentally about. But it does not mean that those who incurs God's wrath, have no hope. Every tongue shall even admitting Jesus C ice t us is Lord, to God's glory. Could God's purpose Atonement be anything less? I is inclined to intervene that hope for a world where grief and pain at times even from take r people faith in God. K anskje I can now understand what is 1T Ace 5:18: "Thanks for everything! For this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. " The statement , "Blessed Fall as g of us so great salvation " Can not possibly be said by a dualist (but it was well Luther?) This, for me, new understanding n of "eternities", has see lvs agt its price, though small against the t hoped it provides . It is not all songs I can sing hereinafter the same conviction, although we need to make it worse than it is. "When the eternal morning dawn" f ortsatt viable terminology, but the significance email s not quite the same as before. And , it's not easy to be KR - 20 .08.13 45 silent witnessed we continue to widens e lead what to me now seems to be one serious P - performance . A big problem view to a tilfre d sstill end solution But another is created : H vor ed to an overall Christianity , To all appearances, have been so wrong So long? It may simply not be the case, the must be something I have misunderstood s Tale here. The problem must be me . No problem resolved, however. In a nutshell does not change that emerged essentially in the usual fortåelsen of salvation, destruction and judgment. There is a salvation to seek and to escape the wrath of God, the difference is mainly that God's punishment for sin shall not last without end. But God's judgment is not t il to be taken lightly. And the salary, to inherit all things with Christ, theirs who follow him now. All shall bow before him . It's just a question of when. We have this incredible opportunity and grace to do it now. I have followed the reason there Spirit has led the G uds words. D a is certainly too much to claim. Reason makes us an reply rural people Than more about Spirit enlightens . I can not believe blindly, and I can not stick to irrationality , Where I my creator s moral support. Now it remains for others to point out where I left it right road . Let me conclude with these words, thus suggesting the theme of the next study: Isaiah 45:7 7 It is I who am the light's origin and create darkness , Providing happiness and creates accident. I, Lord, doing all this. What is that God create darkness? The essence of d the problem of evil for me fortapelseslæren. Evil may have a function, if it comes across and thousand-fold again. But if this world's suffering is only a foretaste of something much worse , as God's creation, will experience no end, then the problem of evil really evil. K it depends when be that we have done more evil than it is ? I think, unfortunately, that this is so. Pic el l are questions, please send them to

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