Nr. 549: The Christian creeds!

Nr. 549:

The Christian creeds!

There are many Protestants who actually do not realize that all creeds are Catholic, and thus builds on foreign doctrine. Be it the Nicene, the Apostles, and the Athanasian. The Augsburg is Lutheran is actually worse than the Catholic in many respects. All we can not trust 100% when they are not written by Spirit-filled men and women, but is in many ways a compromise, dictated and partly controlled by demons, especially the Athanasian is the worst. There are demonic spirits for a great deal behind these so-called perverse and totally unscriptural creeds that we have. Here a picture of Martin Schongauer from the 1480's showing the familiar design "Saint Anthony" trials "and depicts hermit battle against the demons of the desert.

The early Christians also had their "creeds," let us rather take the use, not the Catholic as the Protestant churches and congregations have inherited from the many ways skjøgekirken - the Catholic Church. Here are some of the first Christians their "creeds". First Jesus, then two passages from the Apostle Paul:

Joh. AD 18 36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not of this world. 37 Pilate therefore said to him: So you are a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. I born, and for this cause came I into the world that I should bear witness to the truth. Every one that is of the truth hears my voice.

1 Cor. 15th 3 For I delivered unto you among the first things that I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, 5 and that He arose on the third day according to the Scriptures, 6 and he was seen by Cephas, then of the twelve.

1 Cor. 8 4b. and that there is no God but one. 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth - as there be gods many, and lords many - so 6 is yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Wrote an article a few years ago that I would take on this topic:

How was the Trinity designed?

Now you may ask: 'If the Trinity is not biblical, how did it then that it was one of Christianity's teachings?' Many people think that it was formulated at the Council of Nicaea (Nicaea) in 325 AD

It is however not quite correct. The Council of Nicaea claimed that Christ was of the same substance or essence of God, which formed the basis for the later Trinitarian theology. But this council introduced not the Trinity, for it was said of the Holy Spirit as the Third Person of the Triune Godhead.

Constantine's role in Nikaia

In the time when the idea that Jesus is God, was under development, it met strong opposition of biblical reasons. To try to settle the dispute called the Roman emperor Constantine all bishops to Nicaea. There was no more than 318 - a fraction of the total number of - turning up. Constantine was not a Christian. He probably went over to "Christianity" later in life, but he was not baptized until he lay on his deathbed. In a book on church history says Henry Chadwick, "Constantine worshiped, like his father, the Unconquered Sun,. . . his conversion should not be construed as an inner experience of grace. . . It was like a military question. He never got a clear understanding of Christian doctrine, but he was sure that the Christian God could give victory in war. "- The Early Church.

What role did this unbaptized emperor at the council of Nicaea? Encyclopædia Britannica relates: "Constantine himself was chairman, led the discussions actively and personally suggested. . . the crucial formula about Christ's relationship to God in the creed drawn up by the council, 'of one substance with the Father'. . . For fear of the Emperor signed the bishops, with only two exceptions, the Creed, and many of them did much against his wish. "

Constantine's role was therefore essential. After two months of fierce religious debate grasp this pagan politician in and hit a decision in favor of those who said that Jesus was God. But why? Certainly not because of any Biblical convictions. "Constantine did not really have any understanding of the questions that were asked in Greek theology," says a book on the Christian taught history. (A Short History of Christian Doctrine) What he understood was that divisions in the religious area was a threat to his kingdom, and he wanted to strengthen his kingdom.

It was not, however, some of the bishops of Nicaea which promoted the idea of ​​a trinity. They just took a position on Jesus' nature, not to the Holy Spirit's role. If the doctrine of the Trinity had been a clear Bible truth, should not they have argued that on this occasion?

The further development

After meeting in Nicaea continued debate on this topic for decades. Those who believed that Jesus was not equal with God, was actually taken into favor for a time. But later, Emperor Theodosius against them. He decided that the creed of the Council of Nicaea should be the norm in his kingdom, and convened a synod in Constantinople in 381 AD to the formula set. At this council, agreement was reached to equate the Holy Spirit with God and Christ. For the first time in Christendom Trinity to come into focus. But even after the Synod of Constantinople was the Trinity generally accepted. Many opposed it and thus vulnerable to violent persecution. It was only in later centuries that the Trinity was firmly articulated in the creeds. The Encyclopedia Americana says: "The final design of the Trinity took place in the west, in medieval scholasticism, when one tries to give an explanation using the philosophy and psychology concepts."

The Athanasian Creed

Trinity doctrine was more fully defined in the Athanasian Creed. Athanasius was one of the clerics who supported Constantine at Nicaea. Creed that bears his name, declare: "We worship one God in Trinity. . . So the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit of God, and yet they are not three Gods, but one God. "

Well-informed religious historians agree, however, that it was Athanasius who worded this creed. The Encyclopedia says: "The creed was unknown to the Eastern Church until the 12th century. Since the 17th century, historians have generally been agreed that the Athanasian Creed was not written by Athanasius (d. 373), but probably was drawn up in southern France in the fifth century. . . . Creed seems to have had the greatest influence in southern France and in Spain in the sixth and seventh centuries. It was used in the liturgy of the church in Germany in the ninth century and somewhat later in Rome. "- The New Encyclopædia Britannica.

It was therefore several hundred years from the time of Christ and the Trinity won widespread recognition in Christendom. What was guiding the decisions that eventually was passed? Was the Word of God, or was it clerical and political considerations? Professor EW Hopkins answers: "The final orthodox definition of the Trinity was largely a matter of church politics." - Origin and Evolution of Religion.

Apostasy foretold

Treenighetslærens history harmonizes with what Jesus and his apostles foretold would happen in their time. They said it was to be an apostasy, a deviation from the true worship, and that the situation would persist until Christ's return, when true worship would be restored before God day came and this system of things were destroyed.

Having discussed this 'day' said the Apostle Paul: "First, the rebellion occurs and the lawless appear." (2 Thessalonians 2: 3, 7) Later, he predicted: "When I pulled away, the ravenous wolves will in among you, not sparing the flock. And among yourselves to some men appear and danger of heresy to draw disciples after themselves. "(Acts 20: 29, 30) Other disciples of Jesus also wrote about this apostasy and its 'lawless' clergy class. - See Example 2 Peter 2: 1; 1 John 4: 1-3; Jude 3, 4 Paul also wrote: "There will come a time when people can no longer endure sound doctrine, but as they see fit, they should take themselves teachers, for they will have itching ears. They will turn their ears away from the truth and stick to myths. "- 2 Timothy 4: 3, 4

Jesus explained what lay behind this falling away from true worship. He said he had sown good seed, but that the enemy, Satan, would then weeds in the field. At the same time that the wheat began to shoot up, came the tares. One might therefore expect a deviation from true Christianity would be applicable until the time of harvest, when Christ would set matters. (Matthew 13: 24-43) The Encyclopedia says: "Trinity doctrine in the fourth century was no accurate reflection of the early Christian teachings about the nature of God, it was on the contrary a deviation from this teaching." (The Encyclopedia Americana) How did so this discrepancy? - 1 Timothy 1: 6

Teacher origin

In the ancient world, dating back to Babylon, it was common to worship pagan gods in groups of three triads. Worship of triads was also prevalent in Egypt, Greece and Rome when Christ was on earth, and in the centuries before and after his time. After the death of the apostles began such pagan beliefs to penetrate Christianity.

Historian Will Durant said: "Christianity did not destroy paganism, it was assumed it. . . . From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity. "And in his book on Egyptian religion maintains Siegfried Morenz," Trinity was a main occupation of Egyptian theologians. . . Three gods come together and treated as a single being and being prosecuted in the singular. In this regard, the Egyptian theology spiritual content directly related to Christian theology. "- Egyptian Religion. Church men in Alexandria in Egypt in the late third and early fourth century, including Athanasius, bore clear signs of this influence as they formulated ideas that led to the Trinity. Their influence grew, so Morenz considers "Alexandrian theology as the link between the Egyptian religious heritage and Christianity." In the preface to Edward Gibbons works on the history of Christianity, we read: "If paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by paganism. The first Christians unadulterated doctrine of the deity. . . was the Roman church changed into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as something that was well worth believing. "- History of Christianity. A work of religious knowledge notes that many say that the Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and instilled into the Christian faith." (A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge) And a book about paganism and Christianity says that treenighetslærens' origin is entirely pagan. " - The Paganism in Our Christianity. That is why James Hastings wrote: "In Indian religion, we meet as the trinitarian group of Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu, and Egyptian religion the trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis and Horus. . . Nor is it only in historical religions that we find that God is regarded as a trinity. We remember especially the Neo-Platonic view of the highest or last and fundamental reality, "which is" triadic represented. " (Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics) What is the Greek philosopher Plato with the Trinity to do?

Platonism

Plato lived, for it is believed, from 428 to 347 BC He maintained no trinity in the shape it has today, but his philosophy paved the way for this doctrine. Later arose the philosophical movements that had triadic views, and these were influenced by Plato's ideas about God and nature. A French encyclopedia says this about Plato's influence: "The Platonic trinity, which was merely a rearrangement of older trinities stemming from earlier peoples, appears to be the rational, philosophical attribute trinity that gave rise to the three hypostases or divine people that the Christian churches teach about. . . . This Greek philosopher's conception of the divine trinity. . . one can find in all the ancient [pagan] religions. "- Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel.

Another reference work shows the influence that Greek philosophy was: "The doctrine of the Logos and the Trinity received their shape from Greek Fathers, who. . . was strongly influenced, directly or indirectly, by the Platonic philosophy. . . There can be no denying that the errors and corruptions gained a foothold in the church of this range. "- The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge. A book about the church in the first three centuries, says: "Trinity doctrine was formed gradually and at a relatively late stage. . . . they arise from a source that does not have anything with the Jewish and the Christian Scriptures do,. . . it evolved and was instilled in Christianity Church Fathers made use of Plato's principles. "- The Church of the First Three Centuries. By the end of the third century was "Christianity" and the new Platonic philosophical beliefs become inseparable. As Adolf Harnack points out in his book on the history of dogma, the church doctrine "sound rooted in rock collapse [the pagan Greek thinking detection] soil. Thus, it was a mystery to the vast majority of Christians. " - Outlines of the History of Dogma.

The church claimed that its new doctrines were based on the Bible. But Harnack says: "In reality it legitimized the Hellenic speculation in their midst, the superstitious views and practices from pagan mysteriedyrkelse." Professor Andrews Norton said this about the Trinity: "We can follow this teaching history backwards in time and discovers that it has its source, not in the Christian revelation, but the Platonic philosophy. . . Trinity doctrine is not a doctrine derived from Christ and his Apostles, but a fiction derived from the later Platonists school. "- A Statement of Reasons.

The apostasy was foretold by Jesus and his apostles, sent words out in full bloom in the fourth century after Christ. The design of the Trinity was just one evidence of this. The apostate churches also began to accept other pagan beliefs, such as the doctrine of hellfire and the belief in an immortal soul, and they went well with idolatry. Christianity had spiritually entered the predicted dark age, dominated by a growing priestly class, "the lawless one". - 2 Thess 2: 3, 7,

Why did not preach God's prophets of a Trinity?

Why did none of God's prophets, over a period of several thousand years, taught his people about the Trinity? Should not at least have Jesus used his powers as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his disciples? Would God have inspired hundreds of pages of Scripture without giving teaching about the Trinity if it were the "central doctrine" of the Christian faith?

Can it be expected that Christians should believe that God, centuries after the time of Christ and after having inspired the impairment of the Bible, would support the formulation of a doctrine that had been unknown to his servants for thousands of years, a doctrine which is a 'unfathomable mystery' as is 'beyond human comprehension, "a doctrine that had a pagan background, and as' largely a matter of church politics.

Mark. 13: 32: "The day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (This would obviously not have been the case if Father, Son and Holy Spirit were equal and amounted to one deity. And if it were so that the Son, as some believe, did not know the day or hour because of his human nature, we can ask: Why did not the Holy Spirit the day or hour?)

Matt. 20: 20-23: "The mother of Zebedee's sons. . . answered [Jesus]: ​​'Say that these my two sons may sit by your side in your kingdom, the one on the right and the other on the left.' Jesus said. . . 'My cup you shall drink, but who will sit at my right or left is not mine to give. There, they must sit as my Father hath ordained. '"(Would not this have been a strange answer if Jesus was God, as it is claimed? Some supporters of the Trinity says that Jesus here just black out from his" human nature " . But is this really a logical explanation, when they also say that Jesus was both God and man, not just one or the other? Does not Matthew 20: 23 rather that the Son is not equal with the Father and that the Father has reserved a certain special rights ?)

Matt. 12: 31, 32: "All manner of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this world or the next. "(If the Holy Spirit were a person and were God, would this text have meant that it somehow was greater than the Son. This would have been contrary to the doctrine of the Trinity. What Jesus said, shows rather the Father as the "Spirit" belonged, is greater than Jesus, the Son of Man.)

Joh. 14: 28: "[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you were happy that I go to the Father, for he is greater than I am." 1 Cor. 11: 3: "I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, the man is the head, and the head of Christ is God." (It is therefore evident that Christ is not God, and that God is greater than Christ., We should note that this was written around the year 55 CE, about 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. The truth here is argued, therefore applies to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.)

1 Cor. 15: 27, 28: "'Everything he [God] under his [Jesus'] feet'. That says it all, it is clear that God is exempt from this. For he is the one who put all things under him. And when so everything is subject to him shall the Son also himself be subject to the God who put all things under him, that God may be all in all. "

Both the Hebrew word Sjaddai and the Greek word Pantocrator is translated as 'powerful'. Because language is both of those words repeatedly used of Jehovah, the Father. (2 Mos. 6: 3; Rev.. 19: 6) None of the terms are sometimes used if the Son or the Holy Spirit.

Does the Bible teach that each of them is said to be part of the Trinity, is God?

Jesus said in a prayer: "Father. . . this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. "(John 17: 1-3, highlighted by us) (Here the phrase" the only true God "the Father . He may not be "the only true God" if the other two are God as much as he can he? If another is referred to as a "god", he must either be a false god or just a reflection of the true God.) 1 Cor. 8: 5, 6: "There are enough so-called gods in heaven or on earth, it is the many 'gods' and many 'lords'. But for us there is but one God, the Father. By Him are all things, and we are made to him. And for us there is one Lord, Jesus Christ. Through him all things, and we live through him. "(Here referred to as the Father of the Christians 'one God', and it is shown that he is of a different rank than Jesus Christ.)

1 Pet. 1: 3, LB: "Praise be to Jesus Christ our Lord God and Father" (The Bible repeatedly as the Father of Jesus Christ, "God", even after Jesus ascended to heaven. In John 20: 17 Jesus spoke of himself as the Father "My God," and this was after his resurrection. Later, when he was in heaven, he used the same phrase again, as recorded in Revelation 3: 12 But there is nowhere in the Bible that the Father, Son reviews " my God, "and neither the Father nor the Son refers to the Holy Spirit as" my God. ") Father = God

Son = Jesus

The Holy Spirit = God's active force (end of quote).

The Athanasian is the ugliest that teaches that there is no salvation except to believe in the terrible and unbiblical teachings. And there is no salvation without the Catholic church was in the Athanasian creed which Protestants have changed.



Here is the Athanasian Creed which is dictated by evil spirits:

Anyone who will be saved, before all things, hold fast to the catholic faith. Whoever does not keep it whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And this is the catholic faith, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity, Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance. For one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. Uncreated Father is uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit. Immeasurable is the Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit. Eternal Father is eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit. And yet there are not three eternals, but one eternal, As there are not three uncreated, nor three immeasurable, but one uncreated and one incomprehensible. In the same way the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty, and yet there are not three omnipotent, but one Almighty. So the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit of God, and yet they are not three Gods, but one God. So the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord, and yet they are not three Lords, but one Lord. For as the Christian truth compels us to acknowledge each person as God and Lord, forbidden by the catholic religion to say that there are three Gods or three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone, not made nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and the Son, not made nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding from them. So there is one Father, not three Fathers, one Son, not three Sons, one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Spirits. And in this Trinity none is before or after, nothing greater or less, but all three persons are coeternal and coequal, so that in all things, as has been said above, the Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity.

Those who wish to be saved must thus think of the Trinity. But to eternal bliss, it is also necessary that he honestly believe that our Lord Jesus Christ became man. It is the right faith, that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, is God and man: He is God the Father's being, born before all time and he is man of his mother being born in time, perfect God and perfect man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh; equal with the Father by His divinity, less than the Father to His humanity. But even he is God and man, He is not two, but one Christ; One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by the assumption of humanity into God, one altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ; who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose from the dead, ascended into heaven and is seated at God, the almighty Father's right hand, will be there to judge the living and the dead.

And when he comes, all men shall rise again with their bodies and give account for their deeds. And they that have done good shall go into life eternal, but they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic faith. Whoever does not faithfully and firmly believe this can not be saved (end of quote).

It says clearly and plainly: "This is the Catholic faith. Whoever does not faithfully and firmly believe this can not be saved. " In other words, it's not save without past the church - the Catholic.

Final comment:

In many ways, we see again and again that all movements start as a revival movement. They are "frozen" out of the other believers. So there is a time, those who were enemies become friends, but then it's been a stiffened denominations or otherwise lost from the first was! Creeds in accordance with God's word is all well and good, but when one adds their own things and subtract from it, then comes a astray. Mostly there are unfortunately these katoslke creeds is a worm works and seduction inspired more by evil spirits than of God and the word of God!

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