torsdag 3. januar 2019

No. 1750: Earth's People Can Be Born Born 52 times everyone had lived in love!

No. 1750:
Earth's People Can Be Born Born 52 times everyone had lived in love!


As believers, we must see "big" on it all and not believe in a just world, yet. Why?
The God of this world is not the God of Israel, but Satan.
Then we cannot expect everything to be "taken care of" before Jesus comes and takes power. Until then, our task is to be light and salt in this world.
But at the same time, the Apostle Paul says that "everything belongs to us," then he meant everything.

1 Cor. 3. 21 So no one praises people! for all things belong to you, 22 whether it be Paul or Apollos or Cephas, whether it be the world or life or death, whether it is now or that which is to come - everything belongs to you, 23 but you belong to Christ , and Christ belongs to God.
We don't envy any people for anything, soon it is ours. They only have it "borrowed", it belongs to us as we are the heirs of God and Christ co-heirs.
Picture of a beautiful home with swimming pool. The fact is that this and infinitely more await us believers who we will take possession of one day.



The illustrated science stated that the researchers had found that all people had lived according to the teachings of Jesus, the golden rule, the sacrament of worship, or the principle of reciprocity. Then we had managed to feed the earth's people 52 times. In other words, we are today 7 billion, but the Earth can actually feed at least 364 billion people.

The earth is not overcrowded - but rather underpopulated!

Genesis 1: 27 And God created man in his image; in the image of God he created it; to man and woman he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth, and put it under you, and give counsel to the fish of the sea, and to the birds of the heavens, and to every beast that toucheth the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I will give you every herb that soweth, and every one that is upon the earth, and every tree with fruit that soweth itself; they shall be food for you. 30 And every beast of the earth, and every fowl that is in the heavens, and every thing that moveeth upon the earth, which is the breath of life, I will eat of every herb of green. And so it was. 31 And God saw all that he had done, and behold, it was very good. And it was evening, and it was morning, sixth day.

We see God's thought for man - living in abundance - multiplying us.

At the same time, show managerial responsibility, something that we have failed to these degrees.
Not least because we do not have the ability and will feed all people in this world, it is tragic that we cannot do it!

In the United States and other Western countries, the senior executives often pay more than 1000 times the average wage as the average worker.

This in from E24

The top executives of the US's 350 largest companies earned 312 times more than the average salaries of corporate employees last year.

It shows a recent report by the Economy Policy Institute (Epi).

In 2017, senior executives increased their salaries by 17.6 per cent on average, and received compensation of USD 18.9 million, equivalent to nearly NOK 160 million.

For the company's employees, the average salary increase was 0.3 per cent.

The pay differentials between employees and senior executives have increased dramatically. In 1965, they earned on average 20 times more than the employees. That number had risen to 58 times more in 1989, and in 2000, CEOs earned 344 times more than employees.

The increase is, according to Epi, mainly driven by share-related compensation for top executives. So it is not the monthly salary that has increased the most.

However, the entire increase cannot be explained by rising stock markets. The S&P 500 spent 637 per cent between 1978 and 2017. During the same period, the compensation for top executives increased by 979 per cent.

British earn 167 times more

From 2016 to 2017, the salaries of employees in the UK's largest companies increased by 1.7 per cent.

In comparison, the companies' top managers received an increase of 11 per cent, ie over six times as much.

The median salary for an ordinary employee last year was 23,474 pounds a year (NOK 251,500) against the manager's 3.9 million pounds (NOK 41.8 million).

This means that "guys on the floor" have to work over 166 years before they have earned the same income as the director gets in one year.

This shows a survey done by the independent think tank High Pay Center, which has collected data on the FTSE 100 companies. There is a stock index for the 100 highest-priced companies listed on the London Stock Exchange.
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Walmart bosses in the United States earn over a thousand times the average salary of their employees.

When some have such astronomical salaries, then we must understand that the world is "crazy." Anyone who thinks this is sustainable in the long run, it can be fooled enough. It is not, not least when we know it will be difficult times.

But when Jesus comes and establishes his kingdom of peace. His 1000-year-old kingdom where law and justice will go out from Jerusalem, we will see that what we humans did not achieve. He will get that + much more. We read, among other things. in Amos.

Amos 9. 13 Behold, days come, saith the LORD, that whosoever ploweth shall reach him that reapeth, and he that treadeth grapes shall reach it.

about throwing out the sperm, and the mountains shall drip from the must, and all the hills shall flow over. 14 And I will cut off the captivity of my people Israel, and will build up the waste cities, and dwell there, and plant vineyards, and drink their wine, and cultivate gardens, and eat their fruit.

Read here so wonderful, could it be better?

Firstly, "when the plowing man reaches the reader."
Then next: "Whoever treads grapes will reach the person who throws out the seed".
Thirdly, "the mountains shall drip with moth, and all the hills shall overflow".
Fourth, "I will put an end to the captivity of my people Israel, and they will build up the ruined cities and dwell there."
Fifth, "plant vineyards and drink their wine and cultivate gardens and eat their fruit."

Notice when the plowing and harvesting operates simultaneously. Then there will be opportunities to have autumn and spring all year round.

Then the same thing is repeated, as the blessing will be in all areas, not just an area.

When it stands for the mountains and the hills to move over, do I think it is aimed at the animals? Either way, the animals also live under God's blessing.

When God puts an end to Israel's captivity, all other people will also follow.

It will continue to be the last mentioned. The blessing is not something that comes only one year, but every year.

The fact is that God, if he had got his way and will with us humans, and we had lived only after a sentence of the teachings of Jesus, the golden rule that says: "All you want others to do to you, you too should do against them. For this is the law and the prophets in a sum. "Matt. 7. 12.

Today, it testifies to God's existence that there is so much abundance that we can saturate the earth's people many times. But why can't we do it? Humans' love and greed, which, unfortunately, is great, testifies to how big and deep the fall is. That fact is that approx. 1/3 of the Earth's people do not get fed up, witness how corrupt and corrupt we humans are in ourselves!

Final Comment:

We as Christians know why it is as it is in this world, even though the people of the world could in fact easily be saturated, humans had lived according to the teachings of Jesus. Not least the golden rule that says: "All you want others to do to you, you too shall do to them. For this is the law and the prophets in a sum. "Matt. 7. 12.

Meanwhile, we are "waiting" for God's kingdom to come in with Jesus' creation of his 1000-year-old PEACE. So we as believers know that humans are becoming more and more corrupt and selfish. This is one of Jesus speaking through the Apostle Paul how people will be now in the end time - the time before Jess comes again.

2 Tim. 3. 1. But you must know that in the last days difficult times will come. 2 For mankind shall be self-loving, money-loving, magnanimous, overbearing, mocking, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unkind, unreliable, slanderous, immensely, unmoved, unloving, good-for-good, 4 deceitful, infertile, inflated, such as Love their lusts higher than God, 5 who has the glory of godliness, but denies its power - and these you shall turn away from.

Such is humanity in itself, deceitful!
But in Christ Jesus, we are men on the right path and in favor of God, everything is whether we are in Christ or not.

lørdag 29. desember 2018

No. 1749: God is the same in both the old and the new covenant, but by Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, God sees us humans with far greater indulgence and opportunity to have a second and third chance!

No. 1749:
God is the same in both the old and the new covenant, but by Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, God sees us humans with far greater indulgence and opportunity to have a second and third chance!


Moses brought the law, it showed us our sin. But Jesus brought grace and truth, and we became free. Scripture says that the one who is freed by the Son becomes truly free, hallelujah! Picture of the Prophet and Lawgiver Moses.





Joh. Obvious. 2. 19 I know of your works and of your love and service and faith and patience, and your last works, which are more than the first. 20 But I oppose you, that you let Jezebel the woman tell her that she is a prophetess, and teach and deceive my servants to commit fornication and to eat idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent; but she will not repent of her adultery. 22 Behold, I cast her into a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her I cast into great trouble, if they repent not of her works. 23 And I will carry away her children by death, and all the churches shall know that I am he that searcheth the reins and hearts, and I will give to each of you according to his works.

Luke 13. 6 But he said this parable: A man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7 And he said unto the husbandman, Behold, for three years I have come, and have searched for fruit in this fig tree, and have found none; cut it down! Why should it also occupy the ground for no avail? 8 But he answered him, Lord. Let it still stand this year until I get dug around it and put fertilizer on it, 9 if it could possibly be next year! If not, you can cut it down.

I have written and spoken this before, that the lot of sin is death. God never sees through the fingers of sin, yet through Jesus' sacrifice, death, suffering, and resurrection. Then the new covenant is both better, different and here we see that several new words and phrases come for the day.

One of the words is the word grace. It makes a big, big difference.

Luke 9. 51 And it came to pass, as it was in the time of his coming, that he turned his face toward Jerusalem, to go up, and sent messengers before him. So they departed, and entered into a Samaritan city to prepare for him; 53 And they received him not, because his face was toward Jerusalem. 54 When his disciples saw James and John, they said, Lord! Do you want us to fire fire down from heaven and devour them as Elijah did? 55 But he turned and spoke strictly to them, saying, You know not what your spirit is. 56 For the Son of man has not come to destroy human life, but to save. And they went to another town.

Notice that two of his disciples wanted them to die at death and be destroyed. Just as Elijah the prophet did. But what was Jesus' answer? Yes, we do. Just the opposite, Jesus came with grace. And he came with the truth and justice.

Joh.e. 1. 17b. grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

We also read about similar examples in the groping testament how God corrected those who opposed his words, prophets, and commandments.
Here is an example.

2 Kings 2. 23 From there he went up to Bethel, and as he went up the road, some little ones came out of the city. They scoffed at him and shouted to him, "Come up here, you crazy boy!" Get up here, you crazy kid! 24 When he turned and saw them, he was cursing them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the forest and torn forty-two of the children. 25 From there he went to Mount Carmel and returned from there to Samaria.

Elisha shouted at them, which Jesus warned against doing, why?
Since Jesus has sinned, the debt is paid. God is on our side, against sin, Satan and the flesh. In other words, all that is needed for God to be and be content with us as human beings. It is present in Christ Jesus!

Although God acts with far greater grace, and goodness and mercy in the new covenant. So the consequence for our sin is the same, an eternal separation from God. Here the writing is very clear, both in the old and the new covenant!
Room. 6. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Notice the words of the Tyatira church, they are wonderful and wonderful:
"I gave her time to repent!"

The same thing we encounter in Jesus' parable that Luke writes and reproduces:
"Master! Let it still stand this year until I get dug around it and put fertilizer on it, if it could be next year! if not, you can cut it down. "

This fig tree had been standing for three long years and not given fruit. As with many believers, they stand there year in and year out. No fruit, but what is the Lord's answer and offer? Let them have an opportunity, isn't that wonderful ?!

One opportunity, one occasion, I let her lie, the chance is still there!

But then we come to the serious part of it all, that is, God does not look differently on sin and its consequences. The is just that in the new covenant we usually get "more" opportunities and God shows grace, and not always demands.

Finally, demands are made. Scripture is ready here. Here is one of many examples.

Joh.e. 15. 2a Every branch on me that does not bear fruit, he takes it away,

This is the requirement, also in the new covenant and in the New Testament. This is the Master's and Jesus' own words and teachings.
"Every branch on me that does not bear fruit, he takes it away,"

Now is the time for all of us, we have got so many opportunities and chances. Who do we want to follow?

We are glad we live in the new covenant, and God has again and again shown us grace.
But the time has come to make a choice and not linger on either side anymore. At the same time, God wants to put a line over what has been and that we should put it behind us. Begin again and join the Lord even though we have spent a lot of time, effort, and resources. Satan - our soul mate - wants us to hang in the "straps" and be concerned with our past. It will characterize our future. This is what God will forgive us for in Christ Jesus, and we shall begin again when the blood of Jesus cleanses from all sin!

1 John. b. 7b Jesus, His Son's blood cleanses us from all sin.

Final Comment:

God wants us to become His harmonious, happy and happy children, where we know a sense of mastery and that we are head and not tail. There is something about the Christian life, where God wants us all to be "winners" and to overcome sin, the world, Satan and our own flesh.

1 Joh.b. 5. 3 For this is the love of God that we keep his commandments; and his commandments are not heavy. 4 For all that is born of God overcomes the world; And this is the victory that has prevailed over the world: our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

It is now time has come to shake the "dust" of our feet and lives. Take up our cross again. And go with the Lord, and not let the sins of the past and the "ghosts" stand in the way.

Today is salvation today, today God hears and answers our prayers!

2 Cor. 6. 1. But as co-workers, we also exhort you not to receive in vain the grace of God. 2 He saith unto you, In the time that pleased me, I heard thee, and in the day of salvation did I help thee. See, now is a pleasant time, see, now is the day of salvation!

onsdag 26. desember 2018

No. 1748: Will God "punish" Jan Hanvold, Jan Aage Torp, and others who go directly against the word of God as in the old covenant and which God has done in ancient times? What does the scripture say?

No. 1748:
Will God "punish" Jan Hanvold, Jan Aage Torp, and others who go directly against the word of God as in the old covenant and which God has done in ancient times? What does the scripture say?


Picture of my wife Berit Nyland Christensen, next to the couple Frances and Jimmy Swaggart.
As a young Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart, I think he was sitting in his own radio studio in 1975-76 and God spoke to him that Kathryn Kuhlman would die soon after she had crossed several "streaks" in the spiritual world.
Blue. walked down to the Pope on several occasions, shortly she died too early, only 67 years of trouble with heart.



Heb. 12. 25 Make sure you do not reject him who speaks! For let them not go free, those who rejected him who spoke on earth, how much less shall we escape if we turn away from him who speaks from heaven! 26 Then his voice shook the earth; But now he has promised and said: Once again I will shake not only the earth, but also heaven. 27 But the word, Once upon a time, reveals a change of the things that are shaken because they are created, so that the things that are not shaken will continue. 28 Therefore, when we receive a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be grateful and thereby serve God for his pleasure, with shame and fear! 29 For our God is a consuming fire.

2 Cor. 3. 4 But we have such trust in God through Christ, 5 not that we ourselves should think of anything as of ourselves, but our divinity is of God, 6 which made us worthy to be servants of one new covenant, not for letter, but for spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit is alive. 7 If then the ministry of death, which was cut into letters in letters, appeared in glory, so that the children of Israel could not bear the face of Moses in the sight of his glory, who died, 8 where then shall not the ministry of the Spirit any more be glory! 9 For if the service of condemnation is glory, the ministry of righteousness is far more rich in glory; 10 For this glorious glory has no glory in this piece. 11 For when that which is lost is in glory, much more shall be that which is, being in glory.

God is the same, but the covenant we live in as humans - as believers - is completely different!

God does not look through his fingers with sin, he never did and will never do. Therefore, comparing the old and the new covenant is not wrong. But to believe that God punishes and almost knocks on sin as He did in the Old Covenant. It quickly becomes a sweep theology and learn from it. The fact is that many of the people who live under judgment with their lives are the ones who want and call on others. Therefore, as a believer, pray that Jesus' Son of blood covers every day with grace, goodness, and protection! Or it can actually get us bad!

The New Testament's doctrine is that, above all, as human beings, we must make up and meet God one day, then we will become the style of our lives. Until then, we have to hold on to a very large extent and choose our way. Whether we want to go the way of God or our own ways.

Heb. 9. 27 And as it is man's lot once to die, and then judgment,

We all have to stand by God one day, and then the accounts will come hour. Until then we get people to a very large extent choose how we want to live, but not always.

Room. 14. 10 But you, why do you judge your brother? or you, why do you disregard your brother? we must all be put before the court of God. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow unto me, and every tongue shall praise God. 12 So then each of us should make God account for himself.

Yes, there are times in the New Testament and the new covenant that God intervenes, warns, reproves, and holds a "judgment" showing that here is the limit!

There are countless examples of this, that God reveals secrets also in the new covenant for His servants. But it is more the exception than the rule.

Amos 3. 7 For the Lord, the God of Israel, doeth nothing, but revealeth his secret counsel unto his servants the prophets.

Let me mention some examples of how the Lord's prophets have revealed the death and judgment of others. As we read about primarily in the GT, but it has occurred in the NT and it also happens in the new covenant.

Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart thinks I sat in his own radio studio in 1975-76 and God spoke to him that Kathryn Kuhlman would die soon after she had crossed several "streaks" in the spiritual world. Blue. gone down to the Pope on several occasions, shortly she died so too soon only I mean 67 years of trouble with heart.

Around 1990 I told my wife that it was a "brother" and false preacher who had destroyed so much in the kingdom of God, that I am convinced that God will remove him with death (the only time I have said such a thing about anyone and that happened). A few days later I read his ad and he died in cancer. Yes, it happens sometimes that God keeps judgment.

End Comment.

We read about Asaph in Salem 73. He had a big problem, it was that those who did not go the Lord's way were "blessed." But they who lived for God, did little. Thus, Asaph experienced it was unfair, and totally opposed to his theology, until God allowed him to see "the hour of settlement".

Salem 73. 16 And I thought to understand this; It was a bother in my eyes 17 - until I entered the sanctuaries of God and watched their end. 18 Yea, in slippery places thou set them; you let them fall, so that they perished. 19 Where they were destroyed in a moment! They went under and ended with horror. 20 As an act of nothing dreamed when one awaked, so you consider, Lord, their shadow image for nothing when you wake up.

When Asaph went in and saw their end, the difference was far from heaven. Before that, it seemed that those who departed from the Lord's way did very well.

God very often allows people to build an "air castle" around them, but this does not. There is only one thing that holds if we have built our life, service, and everything in the word of God. Everything else is high, haml and straw.

There are many examples in the New Testament that also hold a judgment or reveal people. But in the Old Testament, it was far, far stronger and then often also that those who opposed God and His servants had a mortal outcome. While in the new covenant, they were revealed and had the opportunity to repent. This again shows that there is a very big difference between the old and the new covenant.
But anyway, the wages of sin are always the same in both the old and the new covenant, that is death! An eternal and total separation from God where one ends up endlessly in the lake of fire together with Satan, the Antichrist, the false prophet, the fallen angels and the demons.

Room. 6. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The real truth is that God also lets such false preachers and teachers hold on to God's people being tried if they want to go the way of God or the way of darkness.
When, for example, narreapostel and hat-pastor Jan Aage Torp travels around with his former nanny whom he has now married. And one does not respond to this, so a spiritually completely blind and seduced.
When Jan Hanvold, with all his glory theology and many marriages, runs a television channel and congregation, and one does not respond to this. Then one is not only spiritually nearsighted and has come to a critical point. But one has surely gone over it, then one is actually at a spiritual level like the church in Laodicea.

Joh. Rev.. 3. 17 Because you say, I am rich and have abundance and lack nothing, and you do not know that you are miserable and pitiful and poor and blind and naked;

Here they believed, believed and confessed that the spiritual level was intact. That one was rich, had abundance and lacked nothing.
The truth was the opposite, which, unfortunately, today I have become!

mandag 24. desember 2018

No. 1747: Narreapostel Jan Aage Torp claims that I write on others' blogs of people I do not know and they write on the heavenly blog!

No. 1747:
Narreapostel Jan Aage Torp claims that I write on others' blogs of people I do not know and they write on the heavenly blog!


Facsimile from Hate-Pastor Facebook page.






This writes hat-pastor Jan Aage Torp:
It is important to understand the environments and attitudes that are currently roaming on each other's web sites and allowing each other to bully, harass, hit relationships, and fight precious values.
They steal and manipulate photographs, reproduce obvious lies, and use stingy tricks.
In a short time they have been released on Fragell's website and the mob-acclaimed JKC (me) where KBB & Co has ravaged Silje Garmo, Einar C. The Salvation, a humanist, Ordo luris and myself.
This weakens legal security in Norway.
I warn. Media and environments that create the kind of bullying I show here will never get the least space in my spheres!
(quoted end of hat-pastor and narreapostel Jan Aage Torp).

When the hatred of Jan Aage Torp goes into the wild and most identical lies, most people should understand that we are facing a hatred that has grown up and causes great, great damage!

Heb. 12. 15b. no bitter root shall grow up and cause, and many become infected with it;

Here, the Hat-Pastor is completely infected with a bitter root in his heart after he put my preaching for hatred and wanted to see me in the punishment and in prison.

When hat-apostle Jan Aage Torp writes the following:
"It is important to understand the environments and attitudes that are currently roaming on each other's web sites and allowing each other to bully, harass, hit relationships, and fight precious values.
They steal and manipulate photographs, reproduce obvious lies, and use stingy tricks.
In a short time they have been released on Fragell's website and the mob-acclaimed JKC (me) where KBB & Co has ravaged Silje Garmo, Einar C. The Salvation, a humanist, Ordo luris and myself.
This weakens legal security in Norway.
I warn. Media and environments that create the kind of bullying I show here will never get the least space in my spheres! "
(Finally quote).

In fact, this is the lie and the free writing, since I do not know these people at all, as mentioned here. As well as having never written on their websites or those on mine, there is nothing but free imagination and lies.

This is not the first time he does, this has Torp done before too. The fact that Levi Fragell has an agenda to speak against Torp's remarriage I strongly doubt that he has praised Torp's horror on several occasions.

Hat-Pastor Jan Aage Torp is only deeply concerned with what he has against an agenda when I have revealed him as a whore and fake in the spiritual field.

When lying to the police, lying in court, lying to the congregation, telling lies, and lying about most, Torp is obviously a man who lives and walks in the dark. Here is not much of God's "sunlight" that does not come in the heart and mind!

Final Comment:

Here is something written by others about narreapostel Jan Aage Torp:

Levi Fragell
Psychologist specialist Einar C. Salvesen is a professional "guarantor" for Jan-Aage Torp's strategy conference in Oslo in a couple of weeks - about children, family life and child welfare. The highlighted critic of religious assault, Cecilie Erland, asks whether other conditions that apply to children in the organizer's environment should have been in the psychologist's focus, and says:
«Should one look at the Child Welfare Service, whose job is primarily to protect children from harmful surroundings and development, one should also consider other harmful influences as a psychologist. This also includes religiously damaging influences, such as demon expulsions on children, using children in saints who supposedly "fill them with the Holy Spirit" so that the children fall over and lie in cramps / spasms on the floor. "
When will the press and the mental hygienic environment ask the same questions?

Cecilie Erland
Pastor Jan-Aage Torp praises his friend and psychologist Einar C. Salvesen for his contribution to the fight against (the bad?) Child welfare service. There may well be misjudgements also at the Child Welfare Service, but to portray them as notorious child-snatchers is sad. Is this the Salvesen of personal, religious conviction unable to see the forest for only trees, or is he not aware of some utterances that take place in TV Vision Norway's direction, supported by Pastor Torp? Are some types of abuse okay, just putting religion as a sign?
Should one consider the Child Welfare Service, whose job is primarily to protect children from harmful environments and development, one should also consider other harmful influences as a psychologist. This also includes religious detrimental influences, such as demon expulsions on children, using children in saints who supposedly "fill them with the Holy Spirit" so that children fall over and lie in cramps / spasms on the floor (see link at the bottom of the post), or when children must attend seasons where adults (responsible?) roll around on the floor as they kick, scream or laugh hysterically. Also adds a link to a YouTube video such as the so-called Prophet Dionny Baez himself
out on Facebook a few months back. The video shows a recording from the back room of TV Vision Norway, where the Prophet prays in tongues (bells), while well-grown people behave more frighteningly than full people on a Christmas table. Drunk people are not good for children, no matter what you are full on / off. It does not seem that children are present during this session, but there were children present in the hall not so long before this was filmed, so one might assume that the children got it with them?
Due to technical problems with two pictures, I add the pictures in the comment field during the post. On one picture you can see people lying on the floor. There is a lot of screaming and screaming in the hall. It does not seem that the girl in the picture, sitting on her lap and holding her ears, thinks this is so fine. For me, it looks like she gets comfort, but of course I can be wrong. As a psychologist one should be able to understand that this is not healthy for a child, regardless of whether Torp himself thinks this is both healthy and normal for children (see picture no. 2 in the comment field).
This hellfire and the battle between good and evil is not erased for a little childhood. Psychologist Kari Halstensen at Modum Bad, which you can read about in a link below, has researched how it is to grow up in closed religious groups, and says that the psychological consequences are similar to those we see in victims of violence. Mental abuse of children should not be good for anyone.
Should religious and non-believers be able to live together in a society, one must be able to meet halfway from time to time. Of course, it is okay to believe what you want, or choose to fall into spasms, but only when you are of age and over 18 years of age. This is NOT okay to do with minors and vulnerable children.
So then I ask both Salvesen and other experts in the field: Is it okay to engage in mental abuse as described above, against children? If, with your hand on your heart, you think this is okay, I would argue that freedom of religion has taken great liberties.
Amen!
https://youtu.be/KYX0ZUpLJE4

https://www.tv2.no/a/8938345/

Levi Fragell Here the psychologist and the pastor discuss their professional project, Faksmile of his discussions:
https://www.facebook.com/100001634694334/posts/2081047561959713/




Jan-Aage Torp

It is wonderful to work so effectively with a generous and sharp professional as psychologist specialist Einar C. Salvesen. Anyone trying to warn him against us - and warn us against him - can only give up. We value heartfelt, facts, and justice ❤️✌️😀
(quote end).


Now I have quoted what Torp himself writes and what others write.
It's something I've never been busy with.
Only that Torp lives in adultery by being married as a believer and Pastor.

When it comes to Torp's fight against child welfare, I am 100% against the simple reason that he has not managed it with his family at all. Here the script says about Jan Aage Torp.

1 Tim. 5. 8 But if anyone does not care for his own, and most of all for his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

That said, Torp is lying, lying and lying again!
The man is devoured by a bitter root in which he hates me and the heavenly blog because we preach against his whore to be re-married as a believer and pastor.
Everything else is insignificant for me to warn and speak in Jan Aage Torp's life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That said, I don't know at all who these people are as Torp connects to me, he only appears as a liar and belly crook!

Think, I don't know who they are, have never met them and they've never written on the Heavenly Blog. That we should have some links to each other is like believing in Santa Claus that he comes from the North Pole with presents every year on December 24th. Or maybe, he does? It is December 24th today. If Santa Claus comes down on his sleigh down the chimney with Christmas presents, then believe in Torp.
If not, then you know that he is lying in the name of God and the name of Jesus, it is bad.

torsdag 20. desember 2018

No. 1746: For God is very often the one who is unfaithful and unhappy in this world, big and significant to him, just looking at the evil's interest around it all!

No. 1746:
For God is very often the one who is unfaithful and unhappy in this world, big and significant to him, just looking at the evil's interest around it all!


Picture of Judge Øystein Hermansen who writes the following in the judgment against me about Hat-Pastor Jan Aage Torp oppramsinger; "The numbers are not contested, and the court is based on them as evidence."
I did that in Borgarting Court of Appeal and said that the numbers are beyond and not documented. That a judgment that is to the degrees lies lying makes this a justice word, nothing else.


 





Luke 10. 17 And the seventy came back and said, Lord! even the evil spirits are obedient to you in your name! 18 Then he said to them, "I saw Satan fall down from heaven like a lightning. 19 Behold, I have given you power to strike snakes and scorpions, and all the enemies of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you; 20 But do not you forget that the spirits are obedient to you, but rejoice that your name is written in heaven!

1 Cor. 1. 18 For the word of the cross is a foolishness for those who perish, but for us that are saved, it is the power of God; 19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of wisdom, and the understanding of the understanding I will do to nothing. 20 Where is a wizard, where is a scribe, where is a reviewer in this world? has not God made the wisdom of the world to folly? 21 For since the world did not know God in the wisdom of God, the will of God by the folly of preaching was to save those who believe.22 Because both Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23 but we proclaim Christ crucifixion, for Jews an offense and for the Gentiles a folly 24 But for those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, we proclaim Christ, the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25 For the folly of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 26 Notice your calling, brethren, that many did not show after the flesh was called, not many mighty, not many high-born; 27 But what is bad in the world, God chose to shame the wise and the weak in the world, God chose to shame strong, 28 and that which is low in the world, and what is wrong, God chose himself, nothing to do for nothing, 29 that no flesh should boast before God. 30 But by him you are in Christ Jesus, who has become wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification and redemption. 31 For, as it is written, He who prays, praises in the Lord!

Contrasts to what God stands for and what this world stands for is formidable, even though we live in a Western-style culture that is characterized by Christianity in a 2000 year long story!

From my Bible Comments Hebrews 6, 5 has tasted the good words of God and the powers of the coming world,
We are born and are preserved by the word of God. The word of God is good and it unites us as believers. We as believers are the world's most privileged people as we have tasted the powers of the world to come.
(quote ending).

Scripture says that we as believers - Jesus believers - have "the powers of the world to come."
It is overwhelmingly large, but at the same time it is in this age and in this household an enemy hating what we have experienced as he will not be in the future world. Then he was executed with all who followed him once and for all, by God's Father and Lord Jesus Christ defeating him on the cross of the cross.

From my Bible Comments Colossians 2:14 The debt letter that came against us because of the commandment of the law, he stretched out and took it away by nailing it to the cross.

The debt was only bigger and bigger until older people became involved, usually getting worse. The law really only has a purpose, show us our true position and nature. Rom.3. 20 No person becomes righteous to God because of works that the law requires. By the law, we learn to know the sin.

But Christ came with white paint and made everything new in a figurative way. All our sins in the past, present and future depend on Calvary. Those we know about and those we do not know about. Is this good preking? I think so. They are nailed there and will not go on. He stroked it out and over.

15 He disarmed the powers and the authorities and made them mock and speeding when he triumphed over them on the cross.

Satan and the demos had habits on our lives. We were in the dark and enjoyed the darkness and were Satan's property. But they were disarmed and stood out as liars, prosecutors and without real power. Satan and the demon had been robbed long and thoroughly enough. But no longer, now they were defeated. The victory is perfect. God's Father is satisfied through the work of Jesus at Calvary. We have forgiven the sins, and God can grace us and adopt us into his family as his own children. And Satan and the demon have no real power anymore, they live on borrowed time!

Jesus nullified the law for us. It does not matter anymore for us, only the grace of Christ Jesus.
(quote ending).

The scripture clearly states the following; "He (Jesus) disarmed the powers and the authorities and presented them spit and spe as he triumphed over them on the cross.

Hebrews 2. 8 all things you put under his feet. For as he marred all things he did not rule out anything that is not subject to him; but now we do not yet see that all things are subject to him.

Notice what the script says the following; "But now we still do not see that all things are subject to him."

Not lazy is subject to the Son yet, but it's not long before, Hallelujah!

Why is it so huge "interest" around and around me and the heavenly blog? Without a doubt, it has the spiritual power we have, which causes Satan to shake and Heaven is looking forward to it!

In other words, what we are doing is promoting the name of Jesus, the word of God, and that it is an upcoming kingdom of God that will rule and rule forever. What the Prophet Daniel saw was that a rock that hit the false god image, and that was to reign and rule forever and ever.

Daniel 2. 31 King, you saw a great picture in your sight; It was a very picture, and its shine was exceedingly large; it stood before you and it was terrible to behold. 32 The head of the image was of fine gold, the breast and the arms of silver, the belly and the loins of copper; 33 the legs of iron and the feet, partly of iron, and of clay. 34 While you looked at the picture, a stone was torn loose, but not with hands, and it struck the image of the feet that were of iron and clay, and crushed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the copper, the silver and the gold was broken at once, and it became like agnists from the wooden boxes in the summer, and the wind took it so that there was no trace of it. But the stone that struck the picture became a great mountain, which filled the whole earth. 44 And in the days of these kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom, which shall not be destroyed forever and this kingdom shall not be left to any other people; it shall crush and end all the kingdoms of the kingdom, but it shall stand forever forever; 45 For you saw that a stone was torn away from the mountain, but not with hands, and broken the iron, copper, clay, silver and gold. The great God has proclaimed to the king what will happen in the future, and the dream stands firm and credible is its manifestation.

I wrote in the following headline: "For God is very often the one who is unfaithful and unhappy in this world, big and significant to him, just looking at the evil's interest around it all!"

Just imagine the harmless I've written and spoken online. The fact that a whore and narrator is nasty, lives in horror and is narcissistic, which is like childhood food against what is otherwise written and spoken by others daily.

The case against me and the heavenly blog has gone all the courts that are possible.

1.) First, I was hate-pastor for mediation in the conciliation council, which did not lead.

2.) Then there was a "trial" in Oslo district court where I and the heavenly blog were fined for having written "too much" about hate-pastor Jan Aage Torp. This was not the purpose of "writing too much". It was not discussed in court, in other words, the justism of time.

3.) Sp brought the case to Borgarting Court of Appeal where I contested Hat-Pastor Jan Aage Torp number as beyond and not documented. The judge Øystein Hermansen lied in his judgment against me that I did not take the floor in court even though we are losing it. Talk about a word of justice.

4.) Then the case was appealed to the Norwegian Supreme Court and rejected when the state and hate-the pastor had received what they wanted.

5.) The case was also appealed by the Strasbourg Human Rights Court, and unfortunately also rejected there. In other words, this "matter of matter" has gone through all legal institutions. And it all ended up with the justism of time to get me and the Heavenly blog if possible. This, of course, is nothing but the Christian pursuit of narrator Jan Aage Torp, with a fictional review that has unfortunately been reached.

Final Comment:

Hat-Pastor Jan Aage Torp writes about me on Facebook today that I'm with Levi Fragell and others and he fights and miscellaneous others. The people he mentions I do not know, do not even know who they are. That I am stating them and he is so totally useless to write that it is impossible to comment on this absurd post of Hat-Pastor and narrator Jan Aage Torp.
He writes further lyingly that I'm punished just because I've got a little minimal cure. Talk about lying in public. The man is completely absorbed by hatred, bitterness and sin.

Heb. 12. 15 And keep in mind that no one shall return from the grace of God, that no bitter root shall grow up and obey, and many shall be infected with it; 16 that no man is a wizard or a profane one like Esau as for One only dish of food sold its birthright.

This fits perfectly on hat-pastor and narrator Jan Aage Torp.

He lives in adultery like Esau, he is unholy, has sold the salvation to live with a new lady. He is infected with a bite root that causes harm everywhere he comes to and fro.

Faksmile from hat-pastor and narrator Jan Aage Torp Facebook page today.


onsdag 19. desember 2018

No. 1745: The criticisms against me have been strongly unfair, as I have never pointed out anything other than what the standard and what is required of a Word's preacher in terms of, among other things, that he should not be reprinted as a believer!

No. 1745:
The criticisms against me have been strongly unfair, as I have never pointed out anything other than what the standard and what is required of a Word's preacher in terms of, among other things, that he should not be reprinted as a believer!


Satan and all other Antichristian powers are working on a blast to stop me. Not least, the preaching I have against sin in the congregation, which entrusted preachers, is getting wild. This really loves Satan, above all, that there are people who live according to his will acting in the congregation of God as if they belong to god but are playing with our enemy satan.
Satan has obviously used Hat-Pastor Jan Aage Torp here, in alliance with both the one and the other.
Fortunately he did not succeed, I'm writing as unobstructed as before.
Picture of him who really stands behind all our prosecutions that we receive as believers, Satan. Therefore, one of his names is also opponent or prosecutor.
One of the others gets the lyrics in the GT where Satan's figure is found in the book of Jobs. Here we meet the devil, here called the Prosecutor, among God's counselors. The image is of a royal court with counselors, where the devil has the right to speak. The devil brings the accusation against God that Job's wickedness is false, and only based on self-interest. Satan will then put Job off all he has to see if his faith is true. Here we meet a theme that is continued in the NT, about the devil who can test our faith (Matt. 4, ff, Rev. 2:10).

Later we meet Satan in the role of the one who will destroy the people of God when David is tempted to carry out census (1 Chron. 21) and as accusation against the high priest (Case 3,1.
Torp is a champion of the evil one.






Joh.e. 8. 44 You have the devil of father, and you will make your father's lusts; He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth; for truth is not in him. When he speaks falsehood, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and liar's father.

Genesis 3. 1. But the serpent was more cunning than all the animals in the field that God the Lord had done, and said to the woman, Did God really say, You shall not eat any wood in the garden?

Satan is a liar and keeps us humans in a deception where eternity is omitted from his "glamor image" of this world!

It looks so "extremely" what I have done to warn and proclaim against reproach among preachers. But why this strong resistance? It is because I have touched Satan's bridegroom into the body of Christ, preachers who live and walk in the dark. Who is with this and spreads spiritually married among us believers with their lives in sin as the scriptures say they live in.

I have never proclaimed that "common" people are reprisals. Have never even mentioned believers with names that are remorse, only and exclusively preachers, singers and those who have a supervisory work as the scriptures say. Exclusively, only public publishers and singers who influence others and live a life in public.

When I hear that I'm dealing with harassment, hot and bullying is nothing but Satan's lies as he is a master to.

The entire scripture gives a total testimony to mention and warn against public publishers, this is something that is biblical, healthy and right.

I do not want to warn against society's sweepstakes, what political party to choose or what football team you're going to cheer on. All of this I get a little bit over when I write. But this is not essential. That is what promotes the Kingdom of God and what is in harmony with the GOD'S WORD, NOT ANYTHING LOVE FRIENDS!

Therefore, there are unjustified criticisms we have received and get to a large extent, something like Satan as the liar he is. Is triggering and getting forward!

Here in the newspaper The Day, which tells me that I am against repentents who are my only goal with what I am writing. Not how the common man lives, but how preachers and shepherds in the church of God live and act.

https://www.dagen.no/dagensdebatt/samfunn/nyhetskommentar/Bibeltime-fra-vitneboksen-296822

Jan Kåre Christensen took his well-used Bible when he took place yesterday in hall 519 in Oslo district court. The members of the court, the audience and the press in the nodded and crowded courtroom witnessed something as rare as a theological debate about divorce and reunification.

Christensen and his lawyer Brynjar Meling based their entire defense on the fact that the characteristics of the accused have arrived on the web about pastor Jan-Aage Torp, are only religious expressions of opinion. The various words and phrases used were defeated with the reading of the skinned book Christensen brought with him. Bible references flew back and forth between the defender's place and the witness box.

Words like "horkarl" were explained by the religious language the Bible itself uses, or the "Canaan language" as Christensen himself referred to as from the witness box. He stated that the New Testament refers to persons who divorce and marry another than their original spouse, in this way. Therefore, Christensen believes that he has only criticized a well-known and highly-profiled Christian leader for not living in covenant with the Christian faith.

Kristin B Bruun on today's comment page:

In my opinion, I think, according to their very involuntary experience with pastor Jan-Aage Torp, that the court has been "angled" in its view. I am a private person without any history with Pastor Torp, who suddenly discovered that I was hanged out on his Facebook page in public, claiming that I have committed criminal offenses. The pastor would help the person with this, and he named him as an inspiration for him and his wife.
When I contacted him privately and asked him to support this person privately and fail to involve me, he was so nice, but a month later he had not met my repeated, courteous recommendations to erase the untrue and defamatory claims about me from their sides, where I'm identified.

On the other hand, he wrote a separate blog post about me, where I was made a stalker and insinuated that I had done the same to him as the person he received the court's opposition to.

It's not a true word in this, and when I contacted him again after a month's silence, and kindly asked him to delete my claims, to dementiate what he himself said and to complain, he responded to blocking me.

So much for the persecuted pastor. "Pastor", by the way, means shepherd (shepherd), that is, a guide for those seeking God. I am shocked at how little the courts see who they are doing.

Final Comment:

Satan and all other Antichristian powers are working on a blast to stop me. Not least, the preaching I have against sin in the congregation, which entrusted preachers, is getting wild. This really loves Satan, above all, that there are people who live according to his will acting in the congregation of God as if they belong to god but are playing with our enemy satan.

tirsdag 18. desember 2018

1744: Gift of tongues - its use and importance to us believers!

1744:  
Gift of tongues - its use and importance to us believers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILEapoVwdyo&t=47s

Oral Robert was asked right before he died what he was most afraid of would happen to the Pentecostal people. He responded freely,
"It is that Pentecostals and Charismatics who have been experienced to be baptized in the Holy Spirit, END TO LANGUAGES IN LIFE AND USE THE LIFE GIFTS IN YOUR DAILY RANGE WITH GOD!"

As simple and good it can be said. The picture of Oral Roberts who really deserves tribute to having raised the language goal so that they are dear friends, this is the great and glorious respect of. Speak in tongues dear friends like you have never done it before, primarily in your personal sphere.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrA3E2Y4fr0

Acts 2. 1. And when the Pentecost day had come, they were all gathered in the same place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a fasting weather, filling the whole house where they sat. 3 And it seemed to them that they were tongues like fire, which separated themselves, and sat upon every one of them. 4 Then they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them to speak.

My baptism in the Holy Spirit.

I was baptized in the Holy Spirit in April 1982, with tongues that came of themselves when I was then so fulfilled by the Spirit of God that it was right and true that the tongues came as a result of a Spiritfulness. I had been with Evangelist Finn Arne Lauvås who really led me to a baptism in the Holy Spirit.
He said that if and when you knew you had tongues - a new language - you'd just let it out. As I got out of his car and came to myself, I was baptized in the Holy Ghost and it poured out a new language in new tongues that was unknown to me but wonderful, wonderful and great it was all!
When I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, I received a permanent new language in new tongues that is important and necessary in the daily dealings with God. When speaking in tongues, one communicates with God in such a way that one prays and praises God in such a way that the scripture says that one speaks secrets with God.

1 Cor. 14 2 For he that speaketh with tongue speaketh not unto men, but to God; for no one understands it, but he speaks secrets in the Spirit;

A secret in the sense of writing is to draw aside what separates us and God. In other words, speaking in tongues is a "direct" line with God.

The basic text states: to make a sound with your voice. Which shows that when we speak, "tin" activates the spiritual world to our advantage.
So speaking in tongues is to have free, true and direct access to God.

When we do not know what and how to pray or we know our own weakness and shortness. Then speaking in tongues is absolutely perfect. By speaking in tongues, and coming out with what is in your heart, you release the heavenly blessings as
In many ways speaking in tongues is to pray for God's will, directly without interference by ourselves or others.

Scripture is in a testimony that speaking in tongues, it "raises" our life and relationship with God Almighty. The tongue goal is like a "turbo" in our Christian life. It gives us something extra that nothing else gives. We come in "contact" with God right away, so it's often good and right to pray in tongues first before praising God in his own native tongue.

The sole purpose of the tongue is to build in the private sphere, but we shall not refuse others to speak in tongues in the church and in a larger community. But above all, it must be seen in the church and in a larger community.

1 Cor. 14 5 Nevertheless, I wish you all spoke with tongues, but that you spoke prophetically; He who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless he suggests that the congregation can build it up.

13 Therefore, he who speaks with tongue asks that he may make it clear!

Tungetale is a spiritual gift of grace. It means speaking with words or in a language you do not know to build both yourself and others.

Jesus foretold speaking in tongues: "And these signs shall follow those who believe:" They shall speak with new tongues. "Mark 16:17. The first time someone spoke in tongues was on Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit was poured out upon the Apostles, as we can read in Acts 2.1 to 12. The apostles spoke the gospel to the people of Jerusalem, and what they said was understood by people who spoke many different languages: "... we hear them speak of the great works of God in our own languages!" Acts of the Apostles 2.11.

Later Paul also writes about tongues, in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14. But here he writes that the speaker in tongues does not speak in an understandable language: "No one can understand him, but he speaks secrets in the Spirit." 1 Corinthians 14 , 2. Nevertheless, this gift that has been given to believers may be beneficial to the recipients and used to build others in Christian congregations.

What does the Bible say about speaking in tongues?




Much of what is written in the Bible about this grace is written by Paul to the church in Corinth. Apparently many of them had received this gift, but did not understand the correct use of it in their assemblies.

Paul tried to help them understand the purpose of tongue speech: "There is a difference in grace, but the Spirit is the same. There is a difference in services, but the Lord is the same. There is a difference in powerful effects, but God is the same, he who works all in all. But the revelation of the Spirit is given to everyone who is beneficial. For to one, the speech of wisdom is given by the Spirit, to another word of knowledge by the same Spirit, another believing in the same spirit, another grace to heal by the same spirit. 1 Another is given power to do wonders, another gift to prophesy, another gift to test spirits. Another gets different kinds of tongues, another interpretation of tongues. "1. Corinthians 12.4-10.

Tungetale was one of many different graces that were given to believers in the building of the body of Christ, which is the church.

For construction

Language in itself can help a human being. Paul says, "He who speaks with tongues, builds himself." 1 Corinthians 14,4. Tongue languages ​​can help us express what is in our spirit and which we can not express with words. Paul makes it clear that the best way to build the church is to speak prophetic, with "common" words that build faith and understanding for all who hear the speech. "I thank God: I speak more with tongues than all of you. But in a congregation of congregations, I will also speak five words with my understanding, so that I know it can teach others than ten thousand words with tongues. "1 Corinthians 14, 18-19.

However, tongues can also be "to be useful" in a Christian assembly if it is interpreted (or interpreted) to a language that the members of the assembly understand: "How are you, brethren? When you come together, each of you has a psalm, a doctrine, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Let everything happen for reconstruction. If someone speaks with tongues, let it be two or in height three, one at a time and let one deny it. "1 Corinthians 14,26-27.

When used in this way, the tongue goal should be used to emphasize and support the spiritual message, and not because one feels strongly moved in his feelings. In this way, other than the speaker in tongues will also be built up.

A sign for the unbelievers

The tongue gift was also given for another reason: "The law is written, By people with other tongues and stranger's lips I will speak to this people, but not even they will listen to me," says the Lord. Then the tongues are a sign, not for the believers, but for the unbelievers, the prophecy is not for the unbelievers, but for the believers. "1 Corinthians 14,21-22. In this way, it can benefit those who attend a gathering, but who have not yet committed their lives to Christ.
In this way, it can benefit those who attend a gathering, but who have not yet committed their lives to Christ.

There are also cases in the Acts of the Apostles where people who were baptized with the Holy Ghost spoke in tongues at the same time. This occurred especially on Pentecost when the baptism of the Holy Ghost was given for the first time, but it also happened on other occasions (see Acts 1 and Acts 19,5-7). But there is no place that these two should always happen at the same time.

Who receives this spiritual gift?

It is stated in the Bible that not all believers receive this gift: "And God first put in the church some apostles, the second prophets, the third teachers, then powerful deeds, so gifts to heal, to help rule , and different kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all the prophets? Are all teachers? Do all good works do good? Have all the gifts to heal? Do you speak all tongues? Can everyone tell them? "1 Corinthians 12,28-30. We see here that only someone is allowed to speak in tongues, just as some are called apostles, etc.

As with all the gifts of all the Spirit, tongue-giving is not necessarily a sign of spiritual maturity. Many of the Corinthians spoke in tongues, but Paul said that they were "toddlers in Christ." (1 Corinthians 3,1) However, when the gift is used in a tidy and appropriate manner, it can be used to build both themselves and other members of the body of Christ.

Final Comment:


It is not a and b Christians, we are all Christians who have been cleansed in Jesus' blood and become God's children. But it is a richer life with God it is about. Where we have also got a language available to interact with God, these are really wonderful dear friends.

As believers and humans, one needs to some extent to be "friend" with ourselves and good, but God rather than anyone else. Then the tongue goal is perfect, because speaking of tongues we speak directly to God, without detours of our understanding. Therefore, it is very good, especially in tribulations and difficulties, to speak in isolation with God and speak or praise God in tongues. This also encourages the writing to.

1 Cor. 14. 15 How is that? I will pray with the spirit, but I will also pray with the mind; I want to praise the spirit, but I also want to praise the mind.

Here the apostle rightly states that he prays and praises in his own "mother tongue" and tongue.
This is a practice we need to put ourselves in the heart, speaking in tongues, and praising in tongues a practice that is highly healthy, biblical and novel. This blessing is for all believers, no one is omitted!