No. 1704: Trinity doctrine is a Catholic "invention"!

No. 1704: 
Trinity doctrine is a Catholic "invention"! 

When they were to adopt the Trinity doctrine, it was appropriate to take up "Virgo" Mary in the Divinity, but with the women's view of the day it became controversial. Therefore, "they" found that the Spirit became a separate person and "third person" on the "team"!The whole Trinity lesson is really a big Catholic scroll and buzz.But as said, Protestantism has never really made a settlement with this Catholic doctrine, for which we find no cover for the word of God.Who shall we give the "credit" for such a learning? More, not least Emperor Constantine who "introduced" Christianity who wants a Christian that was acceptable both for the world and the Christians, it became the Catholic Church.

Torill Bolstad writes on DagensDebatt:But has not Christianity been deceived by Catholic teachings? Celebration of St Lucia, a Catholic weekend, and the Catholic representation of the relationship between the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Current Trinity doctrine that was shaped as it is today by Catholics in the 400's. In John 17, Jesus tells us that he and his father are one in the Holy Ghost. They are always two different. The believers in Jesus' teachings should also be one with the Father and the Son of the Holy Ghost. Also, the Christians must be one with each other in the Holy Ghost of God. Here we are one, but not one and the same. We are many who are one. Just as the Father and the Son are one with each other. The Holy Ghost of God will convince us that the doctrine Jesus taught us, as the Father spoke to him, is the true teaching. There is no prayer to the Holy Ghost in the Bible as far as I can see. Jesus says that we can ask the Father to have the Holy Spirit in our hearts. That is, the Holy Ghost goes where it is told to go with the highest God. The highest God is the only one who has not gained his power and power with anyone. It is also said that he is the only one who can not die. Therefore, the Son of God, the Most High, Jesus Christ, the anointed of God, died to make us righteous. Jesus got his power and power from our common father. Together with Jesus, we will inherit the kingdom of God in the Bible. Jesus is the Father's most elevated creature. It is stated in the Bible that God has made Jesus almost as big as himself. Not the current Trinity doctrine says. Perhaps the time to look at whether the Catholic doctrine of the relationship between these three is a right doctrine. Can not hurt it.(quote ending).May give Toril Bolstad the right that it will not hurt anyone to study the training less closely, and realize that it is a Catholic doctrine, no Biblical doctrine!Here is an article we have about this subject, which speaks for itself.How was the Trinity doctrine designed?Now you may want to ask, "If the Trinity doctrine is not Biblical, how did it become one of the teachings of Christianity?" Many believe that it was formulated at the Nikaia Church meeting in 325 AD.However, it is not entirely correct. The church meeting in Nikaia claimed that Christ was of the same substance or being as God, which formed the foundation for later Trinitarian theology. But this church meeting did not introduce the Trinity doctrine, because there was no mention of the Holy Spirit as the third person in a Trinity deity.Constantine's role in NikaiaAt the time when the notion that Jesus is God was under development, it met with great resistance for biblical reasons. To try to settle the battle, the Roman emperor Constantine called all the bishops of Nikaia. It was no more than 318 - a fraction of the total number - that met.Konstantin was not a Christian. He probably assumed "Christianity" later in life, but he was not baptized until he was on death row. In a book about church history, Henry Chadwick says: "Constantin worshiped, like his father, the unbeaten sun; . . . His repentance should not be interpreted as an inner experience of grace. . . It was all a military question. He never got a clear understanding of the Christian doctrine, but he was sure that the God of Christians could give victory in war. "- The Early Church.What role did this proclaimed emperor play at the church meeting in Nikaia? Encyclopædia Britannica says: "Constantine himself was the chairman, actively led the discussions and proposed personally. . . the decisive formula of Christ's relationship with God in the creed made by the church meeting: "of the same being as the Father." . . For fear of the emperor, the bishops signed, with only two exceptions, the creed, and many of them did much against their desire. "Constantine's role was therefore crucial. After two months of harsh religious debate, this pagan politician seized and made a decision in favor of those who said that Jesus was God. But why? Certainly not because of any biblical conviction. "Constantine did not really understand any questions that were posed within Greek theology," says a book about the history of Christian doctrine. (A Short History of Christian Doctrine) What he understood was that divide in the religious sphere was a threat to his kingdom and he wanted to steer
However, there were not any of the bishops of Nikaia who promoted the idea of ​​a trinity. They only took a position on the nature of Jesus, not the role of the Holy Ghost. If the doctrine of a trinity had been a clear biblical truth, should they not have put it on this occasion? The further developmentAfter the meeting in Nikaia, the debate continued on this subject for decades. Those who believed that Jesus was not equal with God was actually taken to grace again for a time. But later Emperor Theodosius went against them. He decided that the creed of the church in Nikaia should be the norm in his kingdom, calling for a church meeting in Constantinople in 381 AD. to get the formula clarified. At this church meeting, it was agreed to equate the Holy Ghost with God and Christ. For the first time, the Trinity of Christianity began to come into focus. But not after the church meeting in Constantinople, the Trinity doctrine was widely accepted. Many opposed it and thus exposed to violent persecution. It was only in later centuries that the Trinity doctrine was firmly formulated in the creeds. The Encyclopedia Americana states: "The final design of the Trinity doctrine took place in the west, in the Middle Ages schoolchild, when attempting to explain with the concepts of philosophy and psychology." The Athanasian Creed Creation of Trinity became more fully defined in the Athanasian Creed. Athanasius was one of the clergy who supported Konstantin in Nikaia. The creed bearing his name declares: "We honor one God in the Trinity. . . Such is the Father God, the Son God, the Holy Spirit God, and yet there are not three gods but one God. "Well-informed religious historians, however, agree that it was not Athanasius who wrote this creed. An encyclopedia says: "The faith ceremony was unknown to the Eastern Church until the 12th century. Since the 17th century, historians have largely agreed that the Athanasian creed was not written by Athanasius (Death 373), but was probably written in Southern France in the fifth century. . . . The creed seems to have had the greatest influence in southern France and in Spain in the sixth and seventh centuries. It was used in the church's liturgy in Germany in the ninth century and later in Rome. "- The New Encyclopedia Britannica. It was thus hundreds of years from Christ's time and the Trinity teaching gained widespread recognition in Christianity. What was the direction of the decisions that were eventually taken? Was it God's Word, or was it clergy and political consideration? Professor E. W. Hopkins answers: "The final orthodox definition of the trinity was largely a question of church policy." - Origin and Evolution of Religion. The Predicted Prediction The history of the Trinity doctrine harmonizes with what Jesus and his apostles anticipated to happen after their time. They said that there would be a drop, a deviation from true worship, and that the situation would last until Christ's return when the true worship would be restored before God's day came and the order of this thing was destroyed. Having discussed this " the Apostle Paul said, "First, the apostasy will come, and the lawless shall appear." (2 Thessalonians 2: 3, 7) Later, he predicted: "When I have gone away will the wolf wolves penetrate with you and they does not spare the flock. And among yourselves, some men will stand up and do evil teaching to draw the disciples. "(Acts 20: 29, 30) Others of Jesus' disciples also wrote about this apostasy and its' lawless' priest class. See for example 2 Peter 2: 1; 1 John 4: 1-3; Judas 3, 4. Paul also wrote: "There will be a time when people can no longer tolerate the healthy doctrine; but as they find it good, they will get teachers in abundance, because they want it as claws in their ear. They shall turn their ear from the truth and adhere to myths. "- 2 Timothy 4: 3, 4.Jesus explained what was behind this apostasy from true worship. He said that he had sown good grain, but that the enemy, Satan, would like weeds in the field. At the same time, when the wheat began to shoot, the weeds appeared. One could therefore expect that a deviation from true Christianity would be applicable until the fall time, when Christ would settle in the relationship. (Matthew 13: 24-43) A reference book says: "The Trinity doctrine of the fourth century was no accurate reflection of the first Christian doctrine of God's nature; on the contrary, it was a deviation from this doctrine. "(The Encyclopedia Americana) How did this deviation occur? - 1 Timothy 1: 6.The Origin of the Old world In ancient world, back to Babylonia, it was common to worship pagan gods in groups of three triads. Worship of triads was also prevalent in Egypt, Greece and Rome when Christ was on earth, and in the centuries before and after his time. After the apostles' death, such pagan contexts began to penetrate Christianity. The historianWill Durant said: "Christianity did not destroy the nation; it assumed it. . . . From Egypt came the mind of a divine trinity. "And in his book on Egyptian religion, Siegfried Morenz argues:" The Trinity was a main occupation of Egyptian theologians. . . Three gods are united and treated as a single being and are charged in singles. In this respect, the spiritual content of Egyptian theology has a direct connection to Christian theology. "- Egyptian Religion. Church men in Alexandria in Egypt at the end of the third and the beginning of the fourth century, including Athanasius, clearly marked this influence when they formulated thoughts that led to the Trinity doctrine. Their own influence grew so Morenz considers "Aleksandrin theology as the link between Egyptian religious heritage and Christianity." In the preface to Edward Gibbon's work on the history of Christianity, we read: "If the denomination was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted of the denomination. The untold teachings of the first Christians about the deity. . . was converted from the Roman church to the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the heathen teachings, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Platon, were preserved as something worth believing. "- History of Christianity. A work of religious knowledge notes that many say that the Trinity doctrine" is a distortion that is borrowed from the pagan religions and imprisoned in the Christian faith. " (A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge) And a book on paganism and Christianity states that the "origin of trinity teachings are wholly pagan". - The Paganism in Our Christianity. That is why James Hastings wrote the following: "In Indian religion, for example, we meet the Trinitarian group consisting of Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu, and in Egyptian religion the Trinitarian group consisting of Osiris, Isis and Horus. . . It is not only in historical religions that we find that God is considered a trinity. We especially remember the neoplatonic view of the highest or last and fundamental reality, "which is" triadically represented. " (Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics) What does the Greek philosopher Platon do with the Trinity doctrine? PlatonismPlaton lived, according to the belief, from 428 to 347 BC He did not show the Trinity doctrine in the form it has today, but his philosophy paved the way for this teaching. Later there were philosophical movements that had triadic views, and these were influenced by Plato's thoughts about God and nature. A French encyclopedia states this about the influence of Plato: "The Platonic Trinity, which was merely a reorganization of older trinities that originated from earlier peoples , appears to be the rational, philosophical attribute-trinity that was the origin of the three hypostases or divinities that the Christian churches learn about. . . . This Greek philosopher's idea of ​​the divine trinity. . . can be found in all the ancient [heathen] religions. "- Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel. Another reference piece shows the influence of this Greek philosophy:" The doctrine of Logos and the trinity took its form from the Greek church fathers, like. . . was strongly influenced, directly or indirectly, by the Platonic philosophy. . . It can not be denied that mistakes and distortions were made in the church from this team. "- The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge. A book about the church in the first three centuries says:" The Trinity doctrine was designed gradually and at a relatively late time . . . . It originates from a source that has nothing to do with the Jewish and Christian writings; . . . It evolved and was immersed in Christianity by church fathers who made use of the principles of Platon. "- The Church of the First Three Centuries. During the third century," Christianity "and the new Platonic philosophical beliefs became inseparable. As Adolf Harnack argues in his book on dogma history, the teachings of the church were "firmly rooted in the land of Hellenic Greek thinking. Thus, it became a mystery to the vast majority of Christians. " - Outlines of the History of Dogma. The church claimed that its new teachings were based on the Bible. But Harnack states, "In fact, it credited the Hellenic speculation in its midst, the superstitious views and customs of pagan mystery worship." Professor Andrews Norton said this about the Trinity doctrine: "We can follow the history of this doctrine in the past and discover that it has its origin, not in the Christian revelation, but in the platonic philosophy. . . Trinity doctrine is not a doctrine that is written from Christ and his apostles, but a fiction that originates from the later Platonists' school. "- A Statement of Reasons. The apostasy predicted by Jesus and his apostles thus turned out into full bloom in the fourth century after Christ. The design of the Trinity doctrine was only evidence of this. The apostate churches also began to accept
other heathen performances, such as the teaching of a burning hell and the belief in an immortal soul, and they also abandoned idolatry. Christianity had spiritually entered the foreseen dark age, dominated by a growing priest class, "The Righteous." - 2. Thessalonians 2: 3, 7. Why did not the prophets of God tell of a trinity? Why had none of the prophets of God taught his people about the Trinity for a period of several thousand years? Should not at least Jesus have used his abilities as the Great Teacher to clarify the Trinity doctrine for his disciples? Would God have inspired hundreds of pages in Scripture without teaching the Trinity doctrine if it was the "central doctrine" of the Christian faith? Can it be expected that Christians will believe that God, hundreds of years after Christ's time and after he had inspired write-down of the Bible would support the design of a doctrine that had been unknown to his servants for thousands of years, a doctrine that is an "innocent mystery" that is "beyond human comprehension", a doctrine that had a pagan background, and as' to a large extent was a question of church policy. Mark. 13:32: "No one knows the day or hour, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father." (Of course, this would not have been the case if the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost were equal to one divinity. If it were so that the Son, as anyone believes, did not know the day or the hour because of his human nature, we may ask: Why did not the Holy Spirit know the day or the hour?) Matt. 20: 20-23: "Mother of Zebedee sons. . . answered [Jesus]: ​​'Say that these two of my two sons shall sit by your side in your kingdom, one on the right and the other on the left.' But Jesus said,. . . 'My cup shall you drink; but who is going to sit on my right or left side, it's not my case to decide. There they must sit there my father has decided. "" (Would not this have been a strange answer if Jesus was God, as it is claimed? Some followers of the Trinity doctrine say that Jesus simply answered from his "human nature" . But is this really a logical explanation, when they say that Jesus was both God and man, not just one of the parts? Does not Matthew 20:23 show that the Son is not equal with the Father and that the Father has reserved certain special rights ?) Matt. 12: 31, 32: "All sin and mockery shall be forgiven, but no mockery of the Spirit shall be forgiven. He who speaks a word against the Son of Man shall be forgiven. But whoever speaks to the Holy Ghost shall not forgive, neither in this world nor in the coming. "(If the Holy Ghost was a person and it was God, this scripture would have meant that it was somehow greater than the Son.This would have been contrary to the Trinity doctrine. That Jesus said, rather shows that the Father, whose "Spirit" belonged, is greater than Jesus, the Son of Man.) John. 14:28: "[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you were glad that I go to the Father, for he is greater than I." 1. Choir. 11: 3: "I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, the man is the head of the woman, and the head of Christ is God." (It is therefore clear that Christ is not God, and that God is greater than Christ. Notice that this was written about the year 55, about 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. The truth that is expressed here applies, therefore, to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.) 1. Choir. 15: 27, 28: "He put all [God] under the feet of his [Jesus]." When it's all, it is clear that God Himself is exempted from this. For he is the one who has put everything under him. And when all things are subject to him, even the Son shall subordinate himself to God, who has put all things under him, and God shall be all in all. "Both the Hebrew word Sjaddai and the Greek word Pantokrạtor are translated with 'almighty'. In the base language, both of these words are repeatedly used about Jehovah, the Father. (Exodus 6: 3; Rev. 19: 6) None of the expressions are ever used about the Son or the Holy Ghost. Does the Bible teach that each of those who are said to be part of the trinity is God? Jesus said in a prayer: "Father,. . . this is eternal life that they know you, the only true God, and him whom you have sent, Jesus Christ. "(John 17: 1-3, highlighted by us) (Here is the term" the only true God "of the Father He can not be "the only true god" if two others are god to the same extent as he does he can? If another is referred to as a "god," he must either be a false god or just a gloss of the true god.) 1. Choir. 8: 5, 6: "There are so-called gods in heaven or on earth; There are many "gods" and many "gentlemen". But for us there is only one God, the Father. Of him are all things and we are created for him. And for us there is only one Lord Jesus Christ. By Him are all things, and we live by Him. "(Here the Father is referred to as the One's One God, and it is shown that He is of a different rank than Jesus ChristUS.) 1. Pet. 1: 3, LB: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" (The Bible repeatedly refers to the Father as Jesus Christ "God," even after Jesus rose to heaven. In John 20:17, Jesus himself referred the Father as "My God," and this was after his resurrection. Later, when he was in heaven, he used the same expression again, as it is written in Revelation 3:12. However, in the Bible, the Father does not mention the Son as " my God, "neither the Father nor the Son refers to the Holy Ghost as" my God. ") The Father = God Son = JesusThe Holy Ghost = The Power of God