tirsdag 19. august 2014

No. 739: The newspaper Our Country will not go into my post regarding Borre Knudsen, grounds; We share neither the drugs over a stretcher!

No. 739:
The newspaper Our Country will not go into my post regarding Borre Knudsen, grounds; We share neither the drugs over a stretcher!

This felt very strange and double standards when they give him as new riving space both in the newspaper and on the Debate. But not all speak one by mouth, it triggers a fast boycotted.
Photo of John Morken who claimed Borre Knudsen was a prophet.
Johannes Morken

The newspaper VL and Debate is the strong and sharp opinions expressed, but then most in positive terms. Whereas when he was alive, it was the opposite!

For my part I've really always been very skeptical and really welcomed Borre Knudsen, Ludvig Nessa and all other abortion opponents Priest when their business has never been justified on the basis of a New Testament preacher perspective.

This is from my correspondence with Our Country.

1) I send the article here:

2) I get this response: Thank you for your email. The demand is very large, column space is limited. We share neither the drugs over a stretcher.

Debate Editorial Our Country

3) I reply:
No, but you write that he was a prophet, how wrong is it possible to write over a stretcher!
And it is very strange that you can write that he was a prophet, the day after he died. And this would just deny, he behaved abnormally throughout life, it does not make him a prophet!

Jan K
(end of quote).

What VL writes about him? Very much, here are some:
Debate Editor John Morken writes in tremendous positive and exalted terms
An intolerable prophet

Borre Knudsen was a prophetic figure of the modern culture could not tolerate.
(end of quote).

Borre Knudsen was no prophet, no prophet figure and was very, very far from the New Testament life and teachings.

I have written a great deal about the New Testament prophets and others. Can not see VL humbug what they are doing? They allow the most part, the shadow lies and claims that Borre Knudsen was a prophet who transcended the vast majority, for not everyone?

Why warn against Borre Knudsen, he is now dead. Yes there are several reasons for it. Want briefly fist five (5) reasons.

1) Borre Knudsen plied not New Testament Christianity.
2) BK was extreme, other believers who will imitate him, will either be equally extreme.
3) Or they will look up to him, but even walking around with a bad conscience for not living up to him.
4) He should and ought never had been a priest before his mental health was coming level. Already in 1968 should and should anyone have reacted when he had such twisted ideas that one had to have wine in the sacrament. How sick can one be and still be overlooked?
5) BK was no false prophet like others he has worked with. As Jan Hanvold, Jan Aage Torp and others. But anyway, no prophet.

Here something about what I have written about the prophet service:
The Old Testament and the New Testament prophet service is not equal either in calling, mission, scope or procedure!

Prophets service in the old and the new covenant is both different and there are similarities just as there is between the old and the new covenant. For me it was Rein Seehus one New Testament prophet. But today, as there is predominance of false prophets within its Christian churches in the western world, it looks like. Therefore it is so important not to support and give money to the false prophets but the real, true and those whom God has anointed and called to missions for him.

There are many "rogue stories» op profeiseier that is false, be aware of it, I will mention two examples from Oslokirken but deceiver and manipulator Pastor Jan Aage Torp as one of the worst.

1) This is from Oslo church's own website: "Read this powerful portrayal of Dr. Emanuel Minos' prophecy Jan-Aage Torp in 2001, Dr. Emanuel Minos September 2001 the phone rang at the home of Pastor Jan-Aage Torp. It was Dr. Emanuel Minos, who went straight to the point: "Jan-Aage, you know how careful I am to convey prophecies, because I have seen so much abuse. But I am led by the Holy Spirit to speak to you you to build up an international church in Oslo that by God's grace will have the same effect and force as Kensington Temple in London. Thou shalt not fear, because the Lord will guide future work. This is the provision that the Lord has for you, Jan-Aage. The best is ahead of you! "Yes, the "best" with a 20 years younger wife and everything else Rolpa and nonsense! It is what it is. Nothing mega church or else, just lie, control techniques, and otherwise it is Pastor Torp's footsteps.

2) This story I know when I know the person. It was around shekels replace a burning and wholehearted believers who joined the Oslo Church that was manipulated and misled through totally crazy and I would say manipulative pressure, prophecies and other deceptive as a faith lift and Caller Torp to sell his apartment and give it excess of 1.5 Million to Torp so he bought a Mercedes and invite the so-called apostles and prophets over to Norway. When Torp before he had sold the apartment had failed in two innings to get out on manipulations and so-called prophecies to induce to take out loans at 2 times a half a million before the apartment was sold, while after the sale received the remaining half million. Then we have a cynical and manipulative Christian who runs a cabal and doing manipulation with prophecies and other things that are nothing more than false and deceitful from beginning to end. At Dr. and Evangelist Emanuel Minos is with this is alarming and frightening. And all who follow him and those so-called leaders of the Pentecostal charismatic branching of Christianity is in danger of being totally misled and end to end in destruction and under the judgment of God when they open up for Satan and the father in their lives in all areas. Jesus said that even if the blind lead the blind so they both fall into the ditch. At Minos Torp and spiritual blind is a fact, but anyone who believes in them and follows them will experience blindness was Jesus his speech and preaching, the berries be beyond doubt!

The prophet in the Old Testament spoke of a people under God's rule

Therefore, it is also a stricter judgment for Israel than any other nation. Something that history shows us happened. Secondly, the story also shows that no nation has been, is going to be so blessed as Israel.

Prophets in the New Testament does not speak to a whole people first and foremost, but to those who are called out of this world

Prophet of service in the New Testament is primarily directed against the church, secondly against the world. Comparing completely prophet service in the Old and New Testaments is and remains wrong.

The prophet in the Old Testament was more of a "pure" prophet

Just as there are different units and similarities with the old and the new federation. How are the similarities and differences between the prophet service in the Old Testament - Law covenant. And the new covenant of grace and faith covenant.

The prophets of the new union has very often prophesied the deed as part of his work, it is not all their work

This I wrote a few years ago and it is just as relevant today: The gift of prophecy works by the Spirit of God communicates to a Spirit-filled person who is open and able to let themselves be used by God and who want and yearn to be used by the Lord. 1 Cor. 12 4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 There are different services, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but the same God, who worketh all in all. 7 Now to each one the Spirit gives himself known so that it is expedient. 11 But all these worketh that one and the same Spirit, who distributes gifts to each one, so he will. Regarding the Prophetic service as we read in Eph. 4 that the prophetic ministry is one of five different ministries given to the church. My view on this is that a person whose call to serve God as a preacher is not necessarily a pure prophet but a part of the Prophetic service as part of its equipment. Some very much second not. For my part I find that I have all the five different gifts in my ministry as a preacher, but I'm no distinctly Prophet. It's like it's 1 \ 5 of my gift. But for others they are both 2 \ 5 and 3 \ 5 Prophets. The Prophetic ministry is very often part of the equipment of one's preaching, not the whole that we see in the Old Testament that some prophets had. I also have a part of the Evangelist, Teacher, Shepherd and Apostle in me. I feel that I have a bit of all service offerings in me, but others have eg. much of the evangelist himself and little of the teacher himself. And some have a lot of teacher himself and little of the evangelist. It varies from preachers and in some situations for which the need is there. We are all different but we need more of God and the gifts he has put in us, he will refine and further develop our benefit and edification of the church and further guidance going forward. But it is also sad to see that when people make false prophecies and leads the Christian brand of siding is the common practice, especially in past the Pentecostal \ Charismatic churches that everything will be swept under the carpet and ignore everything and go on as if nothing happened! So far one can get in delusion therefore warns Jesus and the apostles oppose this strongly that delusion. But the positive side of this is that God reveals everything before it happens and leads us forward with his Spirit. This is something that God has always wanted to do with their beloved children. 1 Genesis 18 17 Then he remembered the Lord, "Shall I hide from Abraham what I want to do? 18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him shall all the nations of the earth be blessed. Amos 3 7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets (1930 translation). God will use the prophetic anointing and the prophetic ministry to perfecting and empower his church, also in this time! It is through the prophetic anointing the church and we are aligned, adjusted and able to hit "nail" not only approximate but just the "head". The prophetic anointing creates: "Thus saith the Lord" in church. It will create a sanction for this in the church when it is true. When it is illegitimate in a spiritual congregation will be revealed and be put into place! It is our slagkraftighet both internally and externally, we are so dependent that it is the people with the prophetic gift in the church and the Prophetic ministry is up and running in the Body of Christ! We can also compare the five (5) different service offerings with our hand. Thumb's Apostle. Your index finger is the Prophet. Langmann is the evangelist. Ring finger is a teacher. And the little guy is lillefingeren¸hyrden, which makes everything not the other fingers have done and done. And it gets to where the other four will not. How important is a home visit? It performs many times that the other services not performed and acts supplementary and complementary. The nine gifts can compare with a grape cluster where all the gifts complement and supplement each other and all are mutually dependent relationships to each other. And they complement each other to perfection and the divine. The church at Corinth had all nine (9) presents in its midst, and it is God's will to have for each ward. The church at Antioch had all five (5) different service offerings in their midst, there is also a role model for us to have today. This is fine and good with gifts and prophet gifts and healing gifts, but we must not forget that even as perfect church may be, it is the love of the Lord in our hearts that it is important. Think of the church in Ephesus, they had a lot of good, but they had left their first love and the Lord very seriously. They had to repent otherwise there was a risk that the lampstand would be moved. The difference between a prophet service in the OT and NT include that the prophet in the Old Testament prophet had a clean service. But in the NT it is very often part of our spiritual equipment. A prophet in the New Testament and in the New Covenant can and is usually something more than just being Prophet. But he can, and is, and also some of the Evangelist, Apostle, Prophet and pastoral service. Example of Prophet services can be David Wilkerson, Hal Lindsay and Chuck Smith, but has also some of the other service offerings in his preaching. Example of False Prophets are: Benny Hinn, Jan Hanvold, Åge Åleskjær and others. They are of course also much good, but they have one or more major flaws in his life and in his teachings that are so big and seductive. That one must disqualify them as true preachers and turn them into False Prophets. So we have also examples of Christians who are not prophets but has the gift of prophecy. We need preachers who are prophets and believers who are open to God and let the Lord use them to prophesy! End of quote.

Prophet of the New Testament speaks milder than those in the old associated when sin is atoned and paid the debt

From my commentaries Hebrews 9 18 Therefore even the first covenant was inaugurated without blood. Here Paul refers to what Moses did. 2 Genesis 24 3 And Moses came and told the people all the words and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, All the words which the LORD hath said will we do after. 4 And Moses wrote all the words of the Lord, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars for the twelve tribes of Israel. 5 And he sent young men of the children of Israel there, and they offered burnt offerings and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the LORD. 6 And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basins, and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar. 7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people; and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient. 8 And Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people; and he said, Behold, this is the blood of the covenant which the Lord creates with you concerning all these words. 19 When Moses had proclaimed to all the people all the words that are in the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, scarlet wool and hyssop, sprinkled saw blood on both the scroll and all the people which was right under the law on Sinai and after the bids was announced that none of them could and managed to follow to the Divine grace to create equilibrium and balance. At that blood was shed signify someone is guilty and must die. Therefore, it was always an animal that was sacrificed in the place of others. 20 and said, "This is the blood of the covenant which God has set for you." A covenant is a conclusion for two or more people agree on something. That blood is taken here indicates that the Sinai covenant is imperfect in contrast to Calvary Pact is perfect. 21 Just one blood he sprinkled both the tabernacle and all the vessels that were used during the service. Now there will be extensive if we are to go into details. However, I draws the reader's attention to either read even in the Pentateuch, or even Bible study commentary on the Pentateuch. 22 The Act is the nearly all things are cleansed with blood, and sin is not forgiven unless blood is poured out. The blood was essentially all the time because the blood is the life and life is in the blood. By that at the time was a blood covenant between God and man as he carried the children of Israel even when they had sinned. But the condition for this was that one lived and practiced this. 23 The earthly images of the heavenly things must therefore be cleaned this way. But the heavenly sanctuary must be cleansed by the sacrifices that are better than these. When we talk about Moses and all the old covenant as it is examples of what Jesus did and what he represents within its the living God, the heavenly sanctuary. Jesus is our great High Priest and Priestess. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made ​​by human hand and just a picture of the true sanctuary. He went into heaven itself; Now he was for our sakes appear before the face of God. The high priest did foreshadow the great Day of Atonement did Jesus really and genuinely after the resurrection. Then he offered his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption and salvation. All this was for our sake. 25 He did not go in to offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest year after year of entry into the sanctuary with blood that is not his own. We see all the time that idols are halting and incomplete. But they are there and tell us what happened and they said that God the Father demanded perfection that only Christ alone. 26 In that case he must have suffered often since the world was founded. But now he has revealed himself once for all at the end of time to destroy sin by the sacrifice. We understand that the High Priest's sacrifice was never good enough for God the Father, so God had to have a new victim every year due to infirmity of us humans. But Jesus' sacrifice was so perfect and the blood was no trace of sin in itself! 27 Likewise, certain that it is appointed unto men once to die and after this the judgment, it is a fact that every human must admit, death catches the person before or since. But then it's a judgment if one does not accept Jesus and be saved and born again! 28 so also Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many, and since he is the second time to appear, not for sin but to save those who are waiting for him. Jesus took away sin by the sacrifice of Calvary and after the resurrection he carried the blood within its Father in heaven, and there was, and he found an eternal redemption and salvation for us all. Just as surely, he came into the world it is that he will come back in two departments. 1) but to save those who eagerly await him. 2) 2 Thes. 1 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and to them that obey not our Lord Jesus Christ, 9 who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the Lord and from the glory of his might, 10 when he comes on that day to show himself wonderful in his saints, and to the full in all the faithful - for thought was our testimony among you. End of quote.

It is in and through Jesus' death and resurrection that God keeps His hand. Had it not been for Jesus Christ, the Son of God had been out with us. Therefore, delays and waiting and waiting on God that men should repent and believe the gospel. But when the grace period has expired, the judgment, punishment and people will regain the life they have lived. Then there will be a distinction. An either or. Where the redeemed will of God and our New Jerusalem where God the Father creates a new earth and new heavens. But they are not believers will meet the same demise as Sodom and Gomorrah and will be totally wiped out forever! Therefore being a prophet service today also pointing the way out of the waiting as much as pointing out what awaits those who do not obey the gospel!

Final Comment:

I just wanted to point out when VL argued so strongly that Borre Knudsen was a prophet, that I can in no way see me completely agree!

Related Links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/08/no-738-brre-knudsens-death-but-he-was.html

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