No. 1634 What about Christian leaders who have remarried?

No. 1634

What about Christian leaders who have remarried?

Some time ago I heard "Pastor" Sigurd Bylund from Troens Ord Sandefjord speak.
Where he repeated time after time that he had been divorced and remarried many times.
All the greater grace, forgiveness and meeting with Jesus.
This is a failed Christianity, where one opens oneself up to a life of debauchery. It is a mock Christianity and a mockery of all who want to follow Jesus and God's word closely!
Claiming to have more marriages, to have more "God's grace" waiting is in direct contradiction to scripture.
This is a distortion of God's word and God's grace.

Jude 4 For some people have crept in among us. They are such as were written down in ancient times for this judgment. They pervert the grace of God into lasciviousness and deny the only One, the Lord Jehovah, and also the Lord Jesus Christ.

screenshot from YouTube

God does not discriminate between people, but Christian leaders lead others to fall with their lifestyle, claims author Øyvind Kleiveland.

It is not uncommon for Norwegian churches to have Christian leaders who have been married several times, and many Christians wonder how to deal with this.
Can God use them, even though they are living in what the Bible calls adultery?
What does the Bible really say about such situations?

God uses fallen people

It is important to understand that God often uses people - despite their mistakes and shortcomings. I am an example of that.

The Bible shows us many examples of God working through imperfect people. David is a good example, even after sinning gravely with Bathsheba, he repented and God continued to use him.

In the same way, God can use Christian leaders who are living in their second, third or fourth marriage.
God, in his grace, uses us all despite our shortcomings.

God Calls Us to Holiness

Although God may use such leaders, it does not mean that their lives are in harmony with the guidelines for leadership found in the Bible. The Bible says that marriage is eternal, and the bond lasts as long as both spouses live. Jesus said that “what God has joined together, let no man put asunder” (Matthew 19:6). This covenant is broken by those who remarry while their first spouse is still living.

Luke 16:18 says, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery.” This means that remarrying while a person’s first spouse is still living is adultery.

Remarriage is the same as adultery

The Bible clearly states that adultery is remarrying while one’s first spouse is still living. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 says that fornicators and adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. This includes those who remarry after being separated, because their marriage remains valid as long as their first mate is alive.
Galatians 5:19-21 speaks of the works of the flesh, which include fornication and adultery. The Bible says that Christian leaders are engaging in the works of the flesh when they remarry while their first mate is alive, and according to the Bible, this is serious.

How should we deal with such leaders?

While God may use such leaders, it is important to understand that they are not behaving in the way that God requires. According to the Bible, an elder is to be “the husband of one wife”
(1 Timothy 3:2), and they are to serve as examples to the flock.

This means that Christian leaders must live in harmony with God’s plan for marriage.

Leaders who are married to someone else while their first mate is still alive do not accurately reflect God’s will for marriage.

God’s Call to Repent

Even if a Christian leader is living in sin in a relationship that the Bible calls the works of the flesh and adultery, there is still hope.

God’s grace is great, and He calls all of us to repent. Repenting means not only accepting that you have done something wrong, but also changing your lifestyle so that you live in harmony with God’s will.

1 John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” This also applies to those who have been married more than once. God can provide forgiveness and restoration for those who turn from sin. This means stopping what one is doing, as Jesus commanded the woman at the well: “Go and sin no more” (John 8:11).

Conclusion

As Christians, we must be aware that the Bible sets very high standards for those who are to lead the church. The Bible says that if a leader is living in a second, third, or fourth marriage while the first spouse is still alive, they are engaging in adultery, which the Bible defines as the works of the flesh.

That is, they are living in the flesh, not in the Spirit. A leader cannot be a good example to the church when he or she is living in the flesh. God calls leaders to be examples of how to live a life in the Spirit. It is necessary to break the vicious cycle that occurs when Christian leaders drag other people into sin through their lifestyle.

 Therefore, as Christians, we should not have such leaders in our congregations until they have shown sincere repentance and ended relationships that the Bible describes as adultery.

Although everyone who repents can receive God's grace, we must adhere to the rules of the Bible and demand that our leaders behave in accordance with God's will. It is important to take seriously that a leader who lives in sin cannot lead God's people on the right path.
He should be a model, pattern and example for the congregation.
1 Pet. 5. 2 So be shepherds of the flock of God that is among you, overseeing it - not by compulsion, but willingly. And not for corrupt gain, but eagerly.
3 Neither should you be lords over those entrusted to you by God, but it should happen by being examples to the flock.

Øyvind Kleiveland has written, among other things, the marriage book “Den store fallgruven”.

Related links:

 http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/06/no-718-gods-word-says-that-remarriage.html

 http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/06/no-822-questions-to-yvind-olav-sydow.html

 http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2014/01/nr-652-yvind-kleveland-divorced-will.html

 

No. 1633: Christian preaching has overlooked the significance that judgment begins with God's church - not the children of the world!

No. 1633:
Christian preaching has overlooked the significance that judgment begins with God's church - not the children of the world!

The index finger of the Christians must also go to the children of the world, as we are part of society.
But inside - to other believers who are astray. Who spreads destruction, lives in sin is unfortunately a mute like oyster above.
Scripture warns us that the judgment and the search begin with us believers.
Have we failed the Lord and His word here? Unfortunately, I think so.
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1 Pet. 4. 17 For the time of judgment shall begin with the house of God! But if we are to be first, then what about those who towards the end disobey God's message?
18 For: 'If it is difficult for the righteous to be saved, how will it be with the wicked and sinners?' WORD 11,31
19 And therefore he who must suffer according to God's will, must surrender his soul to good works in faithfulness to the Creator.

In recent times here in Norway, "de-Christianization" has gained momentum!

I grew up with Christianity as part of the "package!"
Where one at the school had Our Father's Day and other elements as part of the school's everyday life.

At the end of school and other things, we were in the Church.
Afterwards we got a grade book etc.

Today, as far as I know, this is a distant reality in the profane school.
Today's Norway and the one I grew up with are in many ways completely different.

The way it is for us believers - Jesus believers - is the development we see.
Go against the way we want Norway.
I could go on here, but my point is.
This is the World - where the unsaved.
The non-believers rule the roost today, and indeed before.
As this world lies in evil, the scripture says.

1 John b. 5. 19 We know that we are of God, but the whole world is subject to the evil one.

1930 the translation 1 Joh.b. 5. 19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in evil.

As believers we are in battle - every day against Him who rules this world, that is Satan and his demons.

Therefore, it is completely wrong to say that it is de-Christianization and everything else?!

Deepestly, it is when we believers are removed from this world that there is "de-Christianization". As long as we are in this world, we influence society.
We are light and salt, against the rot in society.
No one else but us Jesus believers is fully aware of this.
Why? Because we have God's Spirit within us, and belong to the living God.

This is exactly what the Apostle Paul says.

2 Thess. 2. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. It is only that he who holds back must hold back until he is taken away.

The basic text, loosely translated, says:
It is what remains that must first be taken away.

It is the congregation - us Jesus believers who hold back before the Antichrist comes and rules this world fully.
This World is in evil right NOW!

Satan's aim is to remove us Jesus believers - everything else is subordinate to his will!

If he does not remove us believers, he will have influence.
Then that we as believers are not followers of Jesus in life and teaching.

Yes, in every way prevent us from being what God has called us to be!

But my point is above all, what is the "apostasy" is that we Jesus believers are removed and erased. It will only happen at the rapture!
The world and the world's children have nothing to fall for. But when we as Jesus believers are removed. Then comes darkness in its full and entire width.

Joh.e. 9. 4 I must work on the work for which I was sent, while it is still day, for the night is coming when no one can work.

Final comment:

Believing in a great revival and reformation such as happened in the 16th century with Luther. Where the whole society was permeated by Luther's faith and teachings, we will never experience again until Jesus establishes his kingdom of peace. And the people obey him.

Genesis 49. 10 The king's scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the scepter from his feet, until the prince of peace comes, and the people obey him.

Before this, we Christians with our beliefs, views and opinions will be more and more frowned upon.
Jesus and true Christianity are too hard food!

The positive thing about this is without a doubt that Israel and God's church - the Jesus believers will find more and more together.
We both believe in the Bible and have it as a standard and direction in our lives.
Even not all Jews believe in Jesus, but it will come when they will be saved as a man in one day.

Room. 11. 25 For I do not want you, brothers, to be ignorant of this secret - lest you should think yourselves wise - that hardening has come in part upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in,
26 and thus shall all Israel be saved, as it is written: From Zion shall come the savior, he shall remove wickedness from Jacob,
27 and when I take away their sins, then this is my covenant with them.

Case. 12. 10 But on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem I will pour out the spirit of grace and prayer, and they will look up to me as they have pierced; and they shall mourn for him as one mourns for his only son, and mourn bitterly for him as one mourns for his firstborn.

No. 1632: It is very possible that God allowed the October 7 massacre when Israel allowed open idolatry in the desert Supernova Sukkot Gathering in the Western Negev Desert!?

No. 1632:

It is very possible that God allowed the October 7 massacre when Israel allowed open idolatry in the desert Supernova Sukkot Gathering in the Western Negev Desert!?

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angrepet_p%C3%A5_musikkfestivalen_i_Re%E2%80%99im

Israel is God's earthly possessions. Deuteronomy 7:6. It began with just one person, Abraham. Yes. 51:2. It developed into a herd of 70 people who went down to Egypt. Genesis 46:27. During their 430-year sojourn in Egypt, Israel became a numerous people. Apg. 7:17. This numerous people are first told that they were "a holy people" when they had come to Sinai. 2.Mos. 19:6. The background for this designation was that the people of Israel had been separated from Egypt and consecrated to God. 2.Mos. 3:8. 19:4. As a set apart and consecrated people, Israel had been set apart before God. The prophet Balaam prophesied this: "Behold, there is a people who live by themselves, and among the heathen they are not reckoned." 4.Mos. 23:9.

Image of the Buddha statue from the music festival in the desert, where Hamas attacked and killed and maimed several hundred people.
Many were raped and sexually abused by these terrorists. Where the women were exposed to sexual violence and everything that is perverted and evil.

 

 

Ap.jj 7. 37 It was this Moses who said to the sons of Israel: 'A prophet like me will your God raise up from among your brothers. You must listen to him!' Deuteronomy 18:15
38 It was he who stood forth in the assembly in the wilderness with the Messenger who spoke to him and our fathers on Mount Sinai. There he received the living oracle* to convey it to us. *a statement from an infallible source
39 But our fathers would not submit to him. They rejected him and rejected him in their hearts. They would rather return to Egypt.
40 They said to Aaron: 'Make us a god; one who can go before us, for this Moses, he who led us out of the land of Egypt, we cannot know what has happened to him.' Exodus 32,1
41 So they made a calf at that time. And they offered sacrifices to the idol, and they rejoiced in the work of their hands.
42 Then God turned away from them, and they were left to serve the multitude of the heavens, as it is written in the scroll of the prophet: 'Was it for me that you in the house of Israel brought forth sacrifices and offerings the forty years you wandered in the wilderness?
43 You also brought them before Molech in his tent and before the star of your god Rephan, the idols you had made to bow in reverence to! Therefore I will abduct you beyond Babylon!' AMO 5,25-27

Will God allow the children of Israel to live like the heathen and turn to idolatry?

The fact that God has given the land of Canaan as the land of the children of Israel.
It is also conditional on them following his rules, commandments and regulations.

Where the border goes is also difficult.
As the children of Israel have a veil over their eyes says the Apostle Paul.
So that they do not see that Jesus is both their and our Messiah.

2. Cor. 3. 7 For the service of death, engraved in letters on stones, had such a glory that the sons of Israel could not look Moses in the face because of this glory — a glory that was to pass away.
8 How much greater in glory shall not then the service of the spirit be?
9 For if the ministry of condemnation was of glory, how much more shall the ministry of righteousness surpass it in glory?
10 For that which once had its glory, has been partially robbed of this glory by a glory that far surpasses it!
11 And if what was to be taken away was of glory, how much greater will not that glory be, which shall continue?
12 And because we have this hope, we act with great boldness.
13 But Moses put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel would not see what would eventually be taken away.
14 For their minds shall be blinded until the day that same veil shall no longer be a barrier to revelation when they read the Old Covenant, which Christ took away.
15 Until this day, when Moses is read, there is a veil over their hearts.
16 It is when they repent to the Lord that the veil is taken away

There is a veil over the children of Israel - but they have God's word to deal with!

It is especially with Israel. They have the word of God, the covenants, the promises and everything.
The Messiah - the world's savior came out of this people.
Although they have "everything", they have not yet seen their Messiah.

Where does Israel now stand in relation to God?

Such a session that took place out in the desert is in any case not to be recommended.
It opens up so much darkness, that Israel must not take this lightly.
They are subject to a pressure from darkness, which is completely beyond.
The apostle Paul speaks of this spiritual struggle in several places.
Blue. here in the letter to the Ephesians.

Eph. 6. 12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against princes, authorities and world rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual evil from the heavenly

It is these spiritual forces that are encouraged to continue with such music festivals.

Final comment:

It is in this field of tension that Israel moves.
Then they can'tlaugh at anything.
Is this God's judgment?
For me, it's like being out on the open sea.
You have to prepare for it to go well.
Israel did not allow so much darkness in its midst!
Buddha statues, free sex and other things are really opening up to these forces.
This will be greatly enhanced when Israel does so, as they are God's own people.
Will therefore strongly request that Israel does not allow itself any more of this in the future.
It will cost them dearly, I'm afraid.

Luke 11. 24 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a person, it goes through dry places to find rest, but it finds none. Then it says: 'I want to go back to the house I came from.'
25 But when it returns, it finds the house cleaned and decorated.
26 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits that are even worse than itself, and they take up residence there. Then the last will be even worse for that person than the first.”

No. 1631: Missionary and preacher Halvard Hasseløy goes hard against Finn-Arne Lauvå's new vision of the end times, but happily cooperates with the false prophet Jan Hanvold!

No. 1631:
Missionary and preacher Halvard Hasseløy goes hard against Finn-Arne Lauvå's new vision of the end times, but happily cooperates with the false prophet Jan Hanvold!

 



Gordon Tobiassen (left) and Leif S. Jakobsen

https://www.dagen.no/tro/endetidsspetakkel-i-pinse-norge-han-sitter-i-thailand-og-skal-instruere-hele-kristen-norge/
https://www.dagen.no/meninger/hva-mener-egentlig-lauvas/
http://jan-hanvolds-blogg-usminket.janchristensen.net/
http://www.janchristensen.net/artiklerhoved.php?side=jan-hanvold-en-falsk-profet

We read the following statements, i.a. in the Dagen newspaper:
Gordon Tobiassen travel secretary at Ordet & Israel
Leif S. Jacobsen retired pastor in the Methodist Church
Missionary and preacher Halvard Hasseløy

All three warn against Finn Arne Lauvås, but cooperate with Jan Hanvold.
He is protected even though his life and teachings are as misguided as Finn Arne is, if not more so!

Strays

- This is a doctrinal fallacy and can lead to heresy, says Halvard Hasseløy to Dagen.
Instead, Hasseløy feels that there is an arrogance about Lauvås and his followers.
- They do not understand that there are other views.
- This is a man who was saved from the streets and has now written 30 books and will instruct the whole of Christian Norway from Thailand. It is arrogant to have such an attitude.
In Paul's second letter to Timothy, the apostle of the Gentiles tells of two false teachers: Hymeneus and Philetus. These false teachers preached that the resurrection had already happened, and in that way they broke down the faith of the people.
This is the same thing that Lauvås teaches today, believes Tobiassen. And it has the same consequences.
- Hymeneos and Philetus had gone wild and had been led away from the truth. This view tears down faith and leads to spiritual death.
(end of quote.)

Scripture says that we must distance ourselves from both Finn Arne Lauvås and Jan Hanvold, as they are both heretics!

Room. 16. 17 Now I exhort you, brethren, to be on your guard against such as cause division among you and place stumbling blocks in the way of the preaching in which you have been trained. Reject them!
18 Such as they do not slave for the Lord Jesus Christ, but for their own stomach. With smooth speech and flattery they seduce the heart of the credulous.
19 But your obedience is talked about everywhere, and therefore I am happy on your behalf about it! For I want you to be clever in goodness and naive in evil
20 The God of peace will crush Satan under his feet in haste. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you! Amen.

Finn Arne has a smooth tongue, but so does Jan Hanvold.
Why is one so inconsistent?
This is not according to the sound doctrine. And what is right!

Final comment:

1 Samuel 15. 1 Samuel said to Saul: It was me the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people, over Israel; so now sound the word of the Lord! 1 Sam 10,1
2 Thus says the Lord God of hosts: I will visit Amalek for what he did to Israel, that he stood in his way when he came up from Egypt. Exodus 17:8-16 Numbers 24:20 Deuteronomy 25:17-19
3 Now go forth and smite Amalek, and smite all that is his; do not spare him, but kill both man and woman, both child and suckling, both ox and sheep, both camel and donkey. Jos 6,17-21
4 Then Saul called the people to arms and mustered them in Tela'im; there were two hundred thousand foot soldiers and ten thousand men from Judah.
5 When Saul came to the city of the Amalekites, he laid an ambush in the valley.
6 And Saul said to the Kenites: Go away, separate yourselves from the Amalekites and go down, so that I will not destroy you with them! For you did good to all the children of Israel when they came up from Egypt. Then the Kenites parted ways with the Amalekites.
7 Saul struck the Amalekites and pursued them from Havilah to near Shur, which is east of Egypt. Genesis 25:18
8 And he took Agag, the king of Amalek, captive alive, and he smote all the people with bans, and slew them with the edge of the sword.
9 But Saul and the people spared Agag and the best and second best of the flocks and herds and lambs - all that looked good - and would not ban them; but all cattle that were mean and wretched, they banished. Leviticus 27,28-29
10 Then the word of the Lord came to Samuel, and it read thus:
11 I repent that I have made Saul king; for he has turned away from me and has not kept my words. Then Samuel's anger was kindled, and he cried to the Lord all night.
12 The next morning Samuel got up early to meet Saul; then someone came and said to Samuel: Saul has come to Carmel, and there he has erected a monument; then he turned and went down to Gilgal.
13 When Samuel came to Saul, Saul said to him: Blessed be you of the Lord! I have followed the word of the Lord.
14 But Samuel said: Then what kind of lowing of cattle is this that sounds in my ears, and what kind of roaring of cattle I hear?
15 Saul answered: They have brought them from the Amalekites; for the people spared the best of the flock and of the cattle to sacrifice to the Lord your God; but we have banned the rest.
16 Then Samuel said to Saul: Wait, and I will tell you what the Lord has spoken to me tonight! He said tenl him: Speak!
17 Samuel said: When you were small in your own eyes, you became head of the tribes of Israel, and the Lord anointed you king over Israel. 1 Sam 9,21 1 Sam 10,21-24
18 And the Lord sent you away and said: Go and smite these sinners, the Amalekites, with bans and war against them until you make an end of them!
19 Why then did you not obey the Lord's words, but threw yourself upon the captives and did what was evil in the Lord's eyes?
20 Then Saul said to Samuel: I have obeyed the word of the Lord and have gone the way the Lord sent me; I have brought Agag, the king of Amalek, here and struck Amalek with ban.
21 But the people took from the captured cattle and sheep, the best of the forbidden, to sacrifice to the Lord your God in Gilgal.
22 Then Samuel said: Surely the Lord has as much pleasure in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obedience to the Lord's words? No, obedience is better than sacrifice, obedience better than the fat of rams; At 6,6 Matt 9,13 Matt 12,7
23 for obstinacy is no better than the sin of sorcery, and defiance is like idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, he has rejected you, so you will not be king. 1 Sam 16,1
24 Then Saul said to Samuel: I have sinned; I have transgressed the Lord's commandments and your words; for I was afraid of the people and yielded to them.
25 But now leave me my sin and return with me, that I may worship the Lord!
26 Samuel answered Saul: I will not return with you; for you have rejected the word of the Lord, and so the Lord has rejected you, so that you will not be king over Israel.
27 So Samuel turned and wanted to go. But Saul took hold of the hem of his robe, and it was torn off.
28 Then Samuel said to him: Today the Lord has torn the kingdom of Israel from you and given it to another, who is better than you. 1 Sam 28,17 1 Kings 11,11
29 And Israel's faithful God does not lie and does not repent; for he is not a man, so he should repent. Numbers 23,19 Hebrews 6,18
30 Saul answered: I have sinned, but still show me honor for the elders of my people and for Israel and return with me! Then I will worship the Lord your God.
31 Then Samuel followed Saul back, and Saul worshiped the Lord.
32 Then Samuel said: Bring Agag, the king of Amalek, here to me! Glad in his mind, Agag went up to him, and Agag said: Surely, the bitterness of death has gone away.
33 But Samuel said: Just as your sword has made women childless, so now your mother will be childless more than other women. Then Samuel cut down Agag before the Lord in Gilgal.
34 Then Samuel went to Ramah, but Saul went up to his house in Saul's Gibeah.
35 And Samuel saw Saul no more until the day of his death, for Samuel mourned for Saul. But the Lord regretted that he had made Saul king over Israel.

Including the entire chapter from Samuel's book as this is so incredibly educational!

Saul had been given a clear message that everything was to be killed, nothing was to be spared.
“Go now and smite Amalek, and smite all that is his; do not spare him, but kill both man and woman, both child and suckling, both ox and sheep, both camel and donkey."

So what did King Saul do? We are reading:
"Saul and the people spared Agag and the best and the second best of the flocks and herds and the lambs - all that looked good - and would not ban them; but all cattle that were mean and wretched, they banished."

Saul let what looked good live, the rest he killed according to God's word!

It is then easy to warn against Finn Arne Lauvås who sits in a bungalow in Thailand and through his Facebook page and books he publishes.
Controls gullible mostly women.
But what does Jan Hanvold do?
He has his own TV Channel that these preachers get to promote themselves.
This means that they spare the false prophet and seducer Jan Hanvold!
This is nothing but flesh, and God's Word warns against such a practice!

What Christian Norway does both here and time after time. Is that you hold the flesh for your arm, and are inconsistent and one lets the flesh, the world and sin into the congregation! Again and again. Those who should be kept out!

Lamentations 1. 10 The enemy stretched out his hand after all her precious things; for she saw Gentiles entering her sanctuary, those whom you commanded should not enter your congregation. Deuteronomy 23,3 Neh 13,1 Psalm 79,1

Why do Gordon Tobiassen travel secretary in Ordet & Israel, Leif S. Jacobsen retired pastor in the Methodist Church and Missionary and preacher Halvard Hasseløy operate with two standards?

I agree with them that Finn Arne Lauvås is a heretic. But isn't Jan Hanvold also that with his many marriages and his theology of glory? Of course!
Both are divisive activities. As a deceiver and seducer.
Then the scripture says clearly, these are to be turned away from. Why is there a clear warning against Lauvås, but not Hanvold? This is hypocrisy and wrong!

Related links:

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/12/nr-628-israel-is-gods-people-in-past.html

 http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/08/no-1302-gordon-tobiassen-which-is.html

No. 1630: According to Unibuss employees here in Oslo, the charging boxes themselves are also set up so that they attract moisture!

No. 1630:
According to Unibuss employees here in Oslo, the charging boxes themselves are also set up so that they attract moisture!

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2024/01/jeg-har-kjrt-el-buss-ifra-2019-de.html

The proverb says the following:
"An accident rarely comes alone."

When something goes wrong, you can count on even more to go wrong!

Then for those who do not do the right thing and want to do good.
After everything that has gone wrong for Unibuss and Ruter this winter.
These new charging boxes are also not tight according to Unibuss employees.
Where on really cold days they cannot be charged, as there is frozen food inside these boxes.
Why?
Because they are not tight and when moisture gets inside.
So according to employees at Unibuss, you don't get charged as the ice and moisture paralyzes the charge. A fan or something else would have improved this box.
Moisture combined with ice settles inside the boxes, as you can see in one picture, this has presumably been tried to be improved here in the picture.
Poor people. Here you see a charging box at Alnabru as seen from the picture.
Does it appear that attempts have been made to remove it from ice and moisture?

Here are charging boxes at Alnabru, where you can also see parts of the old charging points where we had pantograph chargers that always worked.
Now it is obviously something that one struggles with, and does not work well on cold days according to what employees say.

Bus drivers who freeze - why doesn't the safety representative intervene?

Here I am told that bus drivers here in Oslo save on electricity as they do not get a fully charged bus when they are not.
They sit at 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 degrees. Where 13 degrees is max.
It is everyday in Oslo to drive an EL bus.

It really is chaos, not good in some areas as Unibus and the bus companies are doing here in the capital now.
Employees here in the city tell me that they sit with a blanket on them when they drive.
Mittens, gloves, scarf, stillongs, hat and everything that keeps you from freezing.
This is the green shift here in Europe's environmental capital (2019).
Actually, this is dramatic, where one is trying to do one's job.
But sits in a tin can and freezes.
Deeply tragic and alarming!

This sitting and freezing is completely incomprehensible that the conservation officer refuses to drive. It can't be like this and continue!?

Here is something about this, written by others.

The measures to save electricity in the cold can be summarized as follows:
• To lower the temperature inside the bus down to what is specified by Ruter, namely 13 degrees.
https://www.nrk.no/stor-oslo/unibuss-tar-grep-for-a-bedre-rekkevidden-pa-elbussene-i-kulda-1.16722337

According to Unibuss employees, they stop keeping warm for themselves.
Sickness absence is of course sky high, who can manage to drive a bus for up to 8 - 9 - 10 hours and freeze day after day?
The entire Unibus is and remains a disaster.
That they are allowed to continue like this by Ruter is remarkable!

https://www.ao.no/da-marit-fikk-en-teknisk-ok-buss-matte-hun-sette-seg-bak-rattet-i-elleve-minus/s/5-128-707135

When Marit got a "technically OK" bus, she had to get behind the wheel in minus eleven

Problems with access in systems that should be able to preheat buses before they are driven out by the drivers.

Sauge continues that it is the buses that are the problem.
- At the weekend, half of the buses were in the garage with some fault, that they had to be charged or that there were charging points that did not work.
Not only were there delays. The bus drivers also had to dress well to keep warm. Sauge describes how the lack of access between systems means that the buses are not preheated. After technical trouble with the bus she drove at the weekend, she had to park it to get a new one.
- I drove the bus in and said I needed a new bus. When I got a perfectly OK technical bus, it was freezing cold at eleven degrees below zero. I was already quite cold before, and it took one hour to warm it up to nine degrees. Then you still get quite cold feet, she describes.

Final comment:

When I started at Unibuss in 2005, where I worked until 2021.
Over the course of 16 years, I saw that the distance between the management and us drivers just got bigger and bigger.
They lived in their own world.
Rented an expensive premises down in the center of Oslo.
Schweigaards gate 16 where they believe they are doing a great job, even with a loss of 100 million last year. Surely this year it will be many times that?
https://blog.janchristensen.net/2023/12/nr-3320-busselskapet-unibuss-som-gav.html

Having a hard time seeing how they will survive?

Time will tell, but it is not just the buses that are struggling here.
But also the drivers and passengers with cold buses with minimal electricity.
If I were a bus driver, I would refuse to drive such cold buses and contact the safety representative immediately.
And one more thing, if these buses have so little electricity.
Is it particularly dangerous to drive in a tunnel? Stopping in a tunnel with an EL bus is life-threatening.
If that happens, I reckon the driver's bus tag is in bad shape!
https://blog.janchristensen.net/2024/01/nr-3330-unibuss-vil-de-ga-konkurs-eller.html

The management sits at Schweigaards gate 16 on the 3rd floor.

 

Although they have nice premises here at Alnabru in Strømsveien.

No. 1629: The problems we see today with EL buses here in Oslo mostly come from poor training!?

No. 1629:

The problems we see today with EL buses here in Oslo mostly come from poor training!?

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2024/01/no-1628-i-have-driven-el-buses-from.html
https://blog.janchristensen.net/2022/05/nr-3018-skadestatistikken-og.html

The picture of Instructor Leader for Unibuss, Oslo when I worked there.
I worked in Unibuss from 2005 to 2021. 16 years, before I quit after being fired for playing on the radio. Yes, you read that right.
No mistakes on my part in any areas, such treatment is of course completely wild.
https://blog.janchristensen.net/2023/02/nr-3170-ser-pa-tiden-i-unibuss-som-en.html
https://blog.janchristensen.net/2023/06/nr-3227-etter-2-ar-siden-jeg-fikk.html

"The very" Espen Pokorny who received that testimony at Rosenholm when he was there. The most useless driver they had ever had there.
But ended up as Instructor Leader at Alnabru.
No wonder it's the way it is here in Oslo.



When I worked at Unibuss, Espen Pokorny was instructor leader!

I worked with him out at Rosenholm. He was there 14 days before he was sent back to Alnabru. Where he first became an instructor, then a leader.
There was an Ethiopian who was the head instructor there, and he had Espen Pokorny as his student.
https://blog.janchristensen.net/2021/12/nr-2963-herlig-kjre-buss-ut-i-fra-oslo.html

He said he was the most hopeless driver he had ever had.
Impossible to learn, would not learn. He ended up at Alnabru as an instructor.
And later as a manager.
He said he showed zero self-effort, had zero interest in buses and bus driving! Simply not suitable, and he eventually became a manager.
That one has problems not only with the buses. But dealing with them is completely understandable, isn't it?

Isn't it strange what we now see in Oslo that nothing works?

Chaos, chaos. Here NRK writes the following:
https://www.nrk.no/stor-oslo/derfor-sliter-leddbussene-i-oslo-pa-glatt-fore-1.16732985

Almost a complete stop
On Wednesday this week, mirror-like roads brought bus traffic to an almost complete standstill in Oslo and Bærum.
A lack of salting was cited as a reason.
But the articulated buses also have another problem, according to bus expert Tom Terjesen.
He is editor of the trade magazine Bussmagasinet and has followed the bus industry for a number of years.
Terjesen is critical of the fact that most articulated buses in Oslo have rear-wheel drive. The drive wheels - and thus the engine power - sit at the very back.
This applies, among other things, to all 183 electric articulated buses in the inner city.
They are driven by Unibuss on behalf of Ruter with buses from Solaris.
Drive wheels at the very rear
The articulated buses have three axles where the wheels sit. Two axles sit on the main part of the bus, i.e. in front of the "knock". The third is located behind the joint.

When the buses are so special, training must be top notch!

It is undersized, and minimal work has been done here.
I don't think there is any improvement either.
On the contrary, nothing will be done here as Unibuss faces bankruptcy.

Final comment:

The truth is that Unibuss has had an agenda against its own employees.
Where they have tried to make good bus drivers look bad.
And those who are bad will be bad!

I believe that it is the training that is so poor and lacking.
Which has intensified this crisis quite a bit!

They have tried to remove bus driver after bus driver. Not just me, but many others.

As Tom Liarbø:

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2020/12/nr-2802-dommen-imot-tom-liab-x-sjafr-i.html

 

And Rolf Mandelid:

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2022/01/nr-2967-rolf-mandelid-med-knusende.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2022/02/nr-2983-rolf-mandelid-dom-over-unibuss.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2022/03/nr-2996-unibuss-fremstar-vre-et.html

No. 1628: I have driven EL buses from 2019 - the problems that are now in Oslo with EL buses are totally incomprehensible!

No. 1628:

I have driven EL buses from 2019 - the problems that are now in Oslo with EL buses are totally incomprehensible!

Ruter and Oslo Municipality have showered the bus company Unibuss with billions of dollars over the years.
Unibuss has done one thing, spent money like a drunken sailor.
They have buses and materials.
Has properties and so much that is unused and falling into disrepair.
Now Unibus is bankrupt – technically bankrupt.
Will they be saved by Oslo Municipality?
Routes, we they start giving Unibuss fines and cancel the contracts?
Neither Nobina nor Connect Buss, which runs here in Oslo, has anywhere near those problems.
Here is the deficit from 2022 and a few years later.
Which is at an astronomical 35 million in 2022.
Last year, the deficit was supposedly triple compared to 2022.
Well over 100 million.
If Ruter fines Unibuss as they should, the deficit will surely be over 1 billion in 2024. Then the equity is eaten up and they are not just technically bankrupt, but bankrupt.
Waiting in anticipation!

Up to 1,000 departures canceled every day recently here in the capital.
https://www.nrk.no/stor-oslo/her-har-naer-6000-bussavganger-vaert-innstilt-siden-nyttar-fordi-elbusser-sliter-i-kulda-1.16711441

I don't see how that's possible. It is not the cold primarily, but an incompetent and dysfunctional bus company that is the main problem.
They don't have such a simple problem with a plant that works.
As it is obviously not tight, as the buses have problems charging.

Unibuss has run electric buses here in the capital since 2019.
With a lot of experience one would believe!
https://www.unibuss.no/nyheter-og-media/slik-blir-de-nye-elbussene-i-oslo/

The following is stated in this article from 2019:

Largest Nordic electric bus fleet

The experience will come in handy when the supplier will now be involved in electrifying Oslo. The large order for electric buses comes as a result of Ruter having entered into agreements with several bus companies to deploy a large number of electric buses during 2019. Unibuss will operate a total of 42 out of 76 electric buses in Oslo, and thus gets the largest the electric bus fleet in the Nordics.

- We are grateful that our client Ruter has shown us this trust. Now we are looking forward to delivering a much more environmentally friendly and quiet public transport service, says Øystein Svendsen, managing director of Unibuss.

Unibuss is already running two 12-metre battery-electric buses on line 74, in a pilot test with client Ruter.
(end of quote.)

Not only that, there have been buses other than diesel buses in Unibuss for many years!

Mentions both gas and hydrogen buses from VanHool in Holland 10 years ago.

The electric buses arrived well in 2019, the year Oslo is the European environmental capital.

They are supplemented with Diesel buses from 2017.
These 30 electric VDL buses were stationed at Alnabru.
Lines 20, 21, 28, 34, 37 and 54 are served by these 30 articulated buses, where the electric articulated buses can only be used for a few hours in the morning and a few hours in the afternoon on weekdays due to the range.

In other words, the electric bus should have been tested? Or is Unibus missing something?

Then come 5 years later and say that it is childhood diseases that we are now seeing with all the problems in Oslo. That's a lie!
https://www.ao.no/ruter-valsirker-boter-grensen-er-trolig-passert/s/5-128-709085

Taking one with the other buses, buses other than pure diesel buses have been tried out over many years.

Final comment:

Unibuss is the bus company that has received billions through Ruter and Oslo Municipality.
But in 2022 alone, Unibus has gone over 35 million in the red.
https://www.ao.no/busselskapet-varslet-sine-ansatte-dette-er-en-situatung-som-ikke-kan-fortsette/s/5-128-708552

Last year, i.e. 2023, Unibuss lost more than 100 million.
https://blog.janchristensen.net/2023/12/nr-3320-busselskapet-unibuss-som-gav.html

The whole of Unibuss is a company that is totally mismanaged.
It's only a matter of time, isn't it, before Unibus is history?
This is how it is when you act like people without responsibility, and want and do good and right!

Related links:

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2024/01/nr-3323-busselskapet-unibuss-her-i-oslo.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2023/06/nr-3227-etter-2-ar-siden-jeg-fikk.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2023/02/nr-3180-det-som-var-ergerlig-sett-i.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2022/02/nr-2983-rolf-mandelid-dom-over-unibuss.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2022/01/nr-2969-min-tidligere-gruppeleder-i.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2022/01/nr-2967-rolf-mandelid-med-knusende.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2021/12/nr-2964-unibuss-vedvarende-mobbing-av.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2021/11/nr-2952-det-var-utelukkende-kun-av-en.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2021/04/nr-2730-opplysninger-sendt.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2020/10/nr-2766-hadde-jeg-vrt-sikh-hindu-muslim_6.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2020/12/nr-2804-sendt-arbeidstilsynet-der-en-av.html

https://blog.janchristensen.net/2021/03/nr-2837-stevningen-til-oslo-tingrett.html