Nr. 16: Is it based on divine right of female Pastors?

Queastion 16:
What is biblical? Having lead counsel or elders? Is it based on divine right of female Pastors?

Answer:

It is written; elders with men was the norm among the first Christians, can not find a single scripture that speaks of something else!

Paul and God's word is very clear on this point: 1 Tim. 2. 12:
Norwegian (1930)
But I do not permit a woman to be a teacher or to be man's master, she should be in silence.

Here is the font abundantly clear, as also including the early Pentecostals were. Met some time ago one of those to lead today Filadelfia Oslo and asked the person out of this. He had many answers, but none of God's word. The only thing he had from the word of God was that God is no respecter of man or woman as it is in Galatererbrevet 3 28 but it speaks about our relationship to salvation in Christ and the rights that we all have the blood of Jesus, not the service offerings. What liars and cheaters we face, how these people can avoid hell verdict? Once in open defiance that Terje Hegertun goes directly against God's word and what the early Pentecostals believed and taught. It is particularly bad that Pentecostals and other Free Church is against the Lord, then there is no one who is entrusted with so much spiritual revelation from God's word!

This is from my commentaries Galatians. 3. 27 All those who are baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves in Christ.
We are baptized in Jesus' name, why? In order to identify us by him in all areas. We died with him, are buried with him and stand up with him. This symbolizes the baptism.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male and female. You are all one in Christ Jesus.
In salvation in Christ Jesus there is no difference. But the arrangements in the church and marriage is the difference. God sees all people equal in Christ Jesus.

Here are some excerpts from the book to Gilbrandt about this topic:

"There is neither male nor female"
Chap. 1: Designed for men and women
- Man is created in God's image male and female - and they created matched
Chap. 2: Female service in the church
- Just as there are / were many trees in the garden of God, many services open to women / both sexes
- Teacher Service is the very few who have, as everyone should learn / allow themselves instruct
Chap. 3: Female Prophets
- Prophecy can be as much: prediction, judicial prophecy message of salvation, the edification, exhortation, consolation
- We find many female prophets in the OT
- NT: God's Spirit poured out upon all flesh, and the prophetic voice is central in the church (including women)
Chap. 4: Deacons - church servants
- NT: More female deacons - respected, influential, qualified - but not with the teacher's responsibility and control of church
Chap. 5: "I permit no woman ..."
- 1 Tim. 2, 12 - the authoritative teaching office and supervised ministry in the church is reserved for men - bokforfatteren call this point as a test of Bible-believing cabinet in the church
- 1 Tim. 3, 1-2 - the demands of these men
- Apostle choice - Jesus chose 12 men
- Acts of Service (the universal church) and oldest service (local church) is closely related
- Elder Service is a teacher and pastoral responsibilities, as women should be exempted from (liability w / family burdens, especially in times of persecution), including because of women's maternal vocation
Chap. 6: An important issue
- God is time-marked (ie true), but not schedules - it applies at all times - he is timeless and the message is the same at all times
- Inserting the female elders / Trustees will influence the ministry - part of God's word is invalidated
- The debate / time - the Bible-believing pushed through liberal theology (cf work bans bl. Swedish ministers)
- Different views within the movement / Christianity, makes the device ruined (division) - the movement in the church, in the family?
- Loss to the sliding scale
Chap. 7: The dispute feminist background
- A dramatic difference between the first women's movement and the current nyfeminisme
- Feminism - an end-time signs - rearranged home and society - transforming man, the man that God created male and female
Chap. 8: Biblical justifications
- God's plan - so also the man as a teacher and spiritual leader of the church
- Fall - a woman not be a teacher or master's
- "Head" - authority, power, subordination principle - however, the equality
- Urkristen church: not time-adjusted, but obedience to God's word - today: adapted to the present, disobedience to God's word?
- Apostolic Regulation / authority - we will not add to or subtract from - the word of God to the church of Christ at all times
Chap. 9: Not a man and woman
- Device in spite of all differences and all the diversity (Galatians 3, 24-29)
- Equality in spite of all differences
- The diversity creates a whole and unit - members of the body
- Everyone has access to God / the same position before God as righteous by faith
Chap. 10: Voice Prohibition and teaching ban
- Voice Prohibition of 1 Cor. 14, 34-38 - can not be ordinary speech ban (the sum of God's word is truth)
- Disturbing chat - probably?
- But probably ban authoritative teaching preaching / participate in off. doctrine discussions

- Ban on testing of the prophetic voice?
- A ban aimed at women in the Gnostic heresy?
- Understanding the prohibition in 1 Tim. 2, 11-15 - subordination, teaching ban / not be man's master of having a teacher's authority over him
Chap. 11: Objections and excursions
- Arguments against ("Why Bible-believing cabinet here, when there are not other areas?"
- Lifting holy hands (not compulsory prayer position)
- Women dress up (moderation)
- Under Arrange in everything? (No, the sum of God's word is truth)
- Holy kiss (voluntary)
- Fotvasking (symbolic gesture to make the mind)
- Slaves and masters
Chap. 12: Why not?
- The word of God decides - "It is written" - the opposite is liberal theology
- It allows for feminism
- It leads to division
- It establishes unbiblical lead cabinet
- There will be a heavy burden for women in addition to her calling - also there are a number of large and "small" services in the church of God which is open to women
- Bible-believing Christianity is exposed to attacks through history
- A major responsibility in the selection of new elders (end of quote).

There are other good books that one should read about this topic to really understand what God's word teaches on this. Among other TB Barratt's book position of women in the church is simple and clear. The said book to Gilbrandt and others.

Why is this heresy to entry?

Trinity doctrine is a contributing cause. When one sees three equal Gods which all are Gods and they stand in relationship to one another is the most accepted. Scripture teaches that there are not three Gods but One God the Father, He decides everything and the Son carries out orders. There is much to say, will end with what Scripture teaches about this subordinate principle. It is that there is someone who stands above another and the person below should not be over, it was exactly what Satan wanted to be like God. Who is behind when the Trinity, female elders, etc.? Satan, it is his being here to come forward through these unbiblical doctrine that one finds the basis for the word of God.

1. Cor. 11. 3 I want you to know that Christ is every man's head, the husband is the head and the head of Christ is God.


The second misconception that often manifests itself is that the subordination and to speak of the "head" that authority, means a smaller value for the one who should be subordinate.

Thus there's often portrayed in the influence that comes from modern feminism, namely that the lack of equality means oppression and inferiority.

It is important to be clear that equality and equality in reality are two entirely different things. The Bible emphasizes again and again people's equality, both as creatures of God (cf. Job 33.6), not least as a believer in Christ (Galatians 3:28, Filem 16).

But as we have already pointed out above, equality in practice, in terms of features and services, is really utopian. It does not mean for our equality as human beings, or our spiritual position of the function or service we have. On the contrary, the Bible warns against going beyond what one is called (Rom. 12.3).

Conclusion: When women go into an elder or pastor service, she goes into a position and service she is not legally allowed and entitled to have and God's verdict and the lack of God's blessing will be filling. For those who are obedient to the word and the writing will follow the blessing and all good from the sky.

2. Chron. 26. 1Then all the people of Judah took Uzziah,a who was sixteen years old, and made him king in place of his father Amaziah. 2He was the one who rebuilt Elath and restored it to Judah after Amaziah rested with his fathers.

3Uzziah was sixteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem fifty-two years. His mother’s name was Jecoliah; she was from Jerusalem. 4He did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, just as his father Amaziah had done. 5He sought God during the days of Zechariah, who instructed him in the fearb of God. As long as he sought the Lord, God gave him success.

6He went to war against the Philistines and broke down the walls of Gath, Jabneh and Ashdod. He then rebuilt towns near Ashdod and elsewhere among the Philistines. 7God helped him against the Philistines and against the Arabs who lived in Gur Baal and against the Meunites. 8The Ammonites brought tribute to Uzziah, and his fame spread as far as the border of Egypt, because he had become very powerful.

9Uzziah built towers in Jerusalem at the Corner Gate, at the Valley Gate and at the angle of the wall, and he fortified them. 10He also built towers in the desert and dug many cisterns, because he had much livestock in the foothills and in the plain. He had people working his fields and vineyards in the hills and in the fertile lands, for he loved the soil.

11Uzziah had a well-trained army, ready to go out by divisions according to their numbers as mustered by Jeiel the secretary and Maaseiah the officer under the direction of Hananiah, one of the royal officials. 12The total number of family leaders over the fighting men was 2,600. 13Under their command was an army of 307,500 men trained for war, a powerful force to support the king against his enemies. 14Uzziah provided shields, spears, helmets, coats of armor, bows and slingstones for the entire army. 15In Jerusalem he made machines designed by skillful men for use on the towers and on the corner defenses to shoot arrows and hurl large stones. His fame spread far and wide, for he was greatly helped until he became powerful.

16But after Uzziah became powerful, his pride led to his downfall. He was unfaithful to the Lord his God, and entered the temple of the Lord to burn incense on the altar of incense. 17Azariah the priest with eighty other courageous priests of the Lord followed him in. 18They confronted him and said, “It is not right for you, Uzziah, to burn incense to the Lord. That is for the priests, the descendants of Aaron, who have been consecrated to burn incense. Leave the sanctuary, for you have been unfaithful; and you will not be honored by the Lord God.”

19Uzziah, who had a censer in his hand ready to burn incense, became angry. While he was raging at the priests in their presence before the incense altar in the Lord’s temple, leprosyc broke out on his forehead. 20When Azariah the chief priest and all the other priests looked at him, they saw that he had leprosy on his forehead, so they hurried him out. Indeed, he himself was eager to leave, because the Lord had afflicted him.

21King Uzziah had leprosy until the day he died. He lived in a separate housed—leprous, and excluded from the temple of the Lord. Jotham his son had charge of the palace and governed the people of the land.

22The other events of Uzziah’s reign, from beginning to end, are recorded by the prophet Isaiah son of Amoz. 23Uzziah rested with his fathers and was buried near them in a field for burial that belonged to the kings, for people said, “He had leprosy.” And Jotham his son succeeded him as king.


Was King Uzziah suited for the task and called for the task? It is about obedience, rather than fit. God takes care of being able done when we are obedient. We must not rely on our intelligence and what other people think. But alone on the word of God, where we find the rule of faith and learning!