søndag 18. august 2013

Nr. 569: Thjostolf Moland death!

Nr. 569:
Thjostolf Moland death!

PS! Tjostolf Moland died through tragic circumstances, it concluded, he took his own life. What hair he has gone over the last five years is inhuman. Malaria, failed lawsuits, capturing stay etc. Let us pray for his family, Joshua French and everyone else in this tragic and difficult time. Pray to God the Father in the name of Jesus for healing, salvation and restoration!

Thjostolf Moland found dead, there's blood on the Norwegian government's hands with their weakness, sometimes misleading information and not willing to use real policies that money to the Congo and its government? Thinking about what Arnulf Øverland wrote: "Do not sit safely in your home and say: It is sad, poor them! Do not stand so close to heart the unfairness that upon yourself! I cry with the last breath of my voice: You are not allowed to go there and forget! "

Picture of a coffin that is the most tragic way Thjostolf Moland and anyone else can come home to Norway.



This is from Wikipedia about Thjostolf Moland: Birth 28 February 1981, died 18 August 2013 in Kinshasa was a Norwegian reserve officer and businessman, who founded security company SIG-Uganda. He was a second lieutenant in the Garden and Telemark Battalion, and has since worked in Africa with his friend Joshua French. French and Moland were known in 2009 when they were accused of murder and espionage in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Their driver Abedi Kasongo, was found shot dead on 5 May outside Kisangani in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Two witnesses claimed that the two men were behind. French and Moland have in Norwegian media insisted that bandits attacked them and the driver. The two were eventually arrested in the national park Okapi. The trial began, after many delays, at a military court in Kisangani on 14 August 2009, and the 8th September, the verdict was announced. Both were found guilty of all charges and sentenced to death. The verdict was appealed, but the ruling was later upheld. (End of quote).

In 2010, Moland sentenced to death for the murder of Abedi Kasongo. Since the death sentences of this time were no longer fulfilled in the Congo, was ruling in reality a life imprisonment sentence. He has since served his sentence in various jails in the Congo.

Foreign Minister Espen Barth Eide said during the press conference held at the Foreign Ministry on 18 August 2013 that Moland was found dead in his cell in Kinshasa on the morning of the 18th August.

From the newspaper Verdens Gang: Lawyer: - Moland has struggled in prison

Thjostolf Moland's lawyer, like Strøsksnes, fearing that this would happen.

- Thjostolf Moland's death in Congo is the result of a cowardly Norwegian politics, the government and the Foreign Ministry have not been willing to adopt real policies, says Moland and French `former lawyer Morten Furuholmen.

He believes that the Norwegian authorities should charge the Congo to northern man brought home.

- Many of us have long feared that it would happen. Thjostolf Moland has like Joshua French suffered major problems in prison. The only appropriate in this case was that the Norwegian authorities had paid the Congo a certain amount, so that the two men were released and taken home. It is the only language understood by the authorities, says Furuholmen.

- The two were convicted of murder by courts in Congo. Would not such an action from Norway has been a violation of democratic principles not to override other countries' courts? - Arguments like this are worthless and intolerable when a country like Congo do not have courts that acts by legal principles. I think Norwegian authorities had duty to act, and every reason to make themselves more in this case. The judgment, which includes the Norwegian authorities, shows that there has been a serious right treatment, says lawyer Furuholmen.

- What should Norwegian authorities do?

- They should have been much earlier out and said clearly that it will not accept. We were threatened with real political consequences. Instead, the government opted for a cowardly line, which has not made an impression on President Kabila and the Congolese authorities. They should have been much clearer in rhetoric, and presented several unconventional solutions - including money. When would Moland and French been out a long time ago, says Furuholmen.

- What should Norway do now?

- Now UD take all measures to bring about a transfer of Joshua French. I perceive that Espen Barth Eide has been the most enthusiastic foreign minister on the pitch, but he came in late. Støre was lukewarm for long periods. I meant you should have been much more active at the highest political level, with separate meetings of the Congo. UD has been limited to short meetings during UN sessions in New York, and a contact in Ethiopia. There have been no meetings of the Congo, as far as I know, he says. (End of quote).

This type Tjostolf `s father Knut Moland:

Thjostolf Moland's death. This is the story of a murder. Again and again the family has notified the Foreign Ministry and utenriksministeriene Gahr Støre and Barth Eide, about what might happen. Now Thjostolf death, death sentences are executed.

The course was laid when Gahr Støre chose what he liked and who he thought was politically correct, he chose "not relate" to spy judgments, and "relate" to the other sentences. Outcome was a kind of stalemate situation.

UD was warned about what could happen again and again and again. I sent emails and letters to the Foreign Ministry and the Minister and Barth Eide and prayed on my knees. They did nothing. Now they Tjostolvs blood on their hands. The blood can not be washed away, and they will have it in their hands all his life.

Now Joshua French in a desperate situation, and must be helped home immediately. If they get his blood on their hands too.

This is a day of mourning, but also a shameful day. Thjostolf Moland was beaten and tortured and abused and betrayed by many. Now he's dead.

Peace with your memory Thjostolf. (End of quote).

What is in my opinion the cardinal error to YOU? They have not shown the ability and willingness to pursue a realpolitik of the Congolese authorities. Secondly, they have failed to use the leverage of Norwegian aid funds. They could withheld money that they give through relief funds and by what they give to "rescue" the rainforest.

We need a new government, but above all. Even in this tragic situation, there is always one thing that is important. Trusting in God and live for Him!

Got a Psalm of God concerning this tragic event.

Psalm 121 1 I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help come from? 2 My help comes from the Lord, who made heaven and earth. 3 And he shall not let your foot falter, your guardian shall not slumber. 4 Behold, he slumbers not and sleeps not, Israel's guardian. 5 The LORD is your keeper, the Lord is your shade at your right hand. 6 The sun shall not stab thee by day, nor the moon by night. 7 The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil, he shall preserve thy soul. 8 The LORD shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in from this time forth and for evermore.

Final comment:

Should we as Christians care? As far as I know, acquaintances Tjostolf Jesus' name, only that in itself should make us believers to speak out, help and stand up for what is right, true and good! Rest in peace, and him and his memory and hope and believe we meet in the New Jerusalem where all the saved will be collected before the 1000 year kingdom.


Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/05/nr-309-if-socialists-and-left-side-in.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-152-dead-david-wilkerson-before-time.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/nr-60-david-wilkerson-died-tragically.html

lørdag 17. august 2013

Nr. 567: Take a route choice - be real intercessor and supporting partner of my service and Smyrna Oslo. It is about building God's church in Norway and the world!

Nr. 567:

Take a route choice - be real intercessor and supporting partner of my service and Smyrna Oslo. It is about building God's church in Norway and the world!

Picture of me and my beloved Mrs. Berit Nyland Christensen



We are all God's co-workers - and need each other to do the Lord's work!

1 Corinthians 3:9 For we are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, God's building.

Intercession - the believer's premier and most important task. We want your prayers to you than anything else.

When I was relatively new to the faith, I read a book that I would recommend. It was Alfred Lorenzen, intercession purpose and power. -82 To 87. Hft. 79s. Filad. It gave me a lot, where Lorenzen takes us in a relatively short book, but a journey through the Bible where the difference and importance of prayer have been. And I also think it is today. Therefore, prayer is not only the greatest importance. It is the most important, largest and most trusted of all "spiritual exercises,".

We are speaking voice - or the voice of the time against the apostasy in the church of God!

Scripture speaks opposite than what is preached in the great and all, then there will be no revival and light times first and foremost, but difficult times.

2 Tim. 3 1 But know this, that in the last days it shall come perilous times. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, untrustworthy, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness, but denying the power - and they turn away from.

We stand on the boulevard - and warn the way! Should this continue, grow and get development, we depend on the Lord. But God has made it so that there are people who do his will, who thus carries out his work! This is no contradiction, but the facts. Therefore, do you think of us? Like what we write and communicate? Then pray for us and support us financially. I do not get benefits from the government or state support, but work full time and run all this in my spare time.

I know that there are formidable many who visit us every day, week and month. the blog and website. Have removed the counter when I do not want to be concerned with numbers. But think, there must be a fair amount of that visit us regularly which seems about us? I myself had never managed to see on a blog or website regularly without it gave me something for the spiritual life? Therefore, pray for us and support us economics, if you want this to continue and develop.

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Nr. 566: Storm Bjorn Johansen wrote that I do not belong to Christ, who is it that could become so in the place of God?

Nr. 566:

Storm Bjorn Johansen wrote that I do not belong to Christ, who is it that could become so in the place of God?

Bjørn Johansen Storm is a man who has been saved for only 3 years, but I've rarely had such judgments on me. Jesus said about the likes of him that was won by other heretics, Matt. 23, 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him one hell children, two times worse than yourselves!

Picture of Bjørn Johansen Storm



This, he writes about me: He who has written about you is probably the most in need of prayer. He denies the Trinity and thus does not belong to Christ. He is a false prophet with one false message. Should ask for salvation and forgiveness for him. God's peace to you Bjørn Olav.

I got in touch with him at. mail. Want to bring this so that readers get both a background and realize that many of those who preach the word of God in Norway today head should never have to declare when they are unfit and not ready for the task and service. Here is what we wrote:

Me: Hey! If you think I have saved it love to post it on a blog without contacting me first? You've been a Christian claim you for 3 years, do you put yourself in the place of God and Satan's servant to deny me salvation. Wake up before it's too late, God alone should decide who is within or without the past! Regards Jan Kåre Christensen Smyrna Oslo Tel: 99598070

From: Bjørn Johansen Storm Posted: 16th August 2013 9:28 To: Jan Kåre Christensen Subject: Re: strange: You deny the Trinity. Our faith as Christians is that God is one in three people with equal authority. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Avik All of this is heresy.

Me: Hey! Imagine if you as a heretic? You come with no justification, beware, I say, you can go against God, and then set yourself without a past! Matt 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool! shall be in danger of hell fire. You make yourself guilty to ................. Jesus said Regards Jan K

Bjorn: Do not have time to debate now :) Wish you all the best and pray that you will see the truth.

Me: Do not need your prayers! I've seen enough that I can say that you are deceived, arrogant and are in danger of losing salvation if you have not lost it at such a judgment on me!

Me: My advice to you is that you go in yourself. Working with the article, here is the preliminary work, you have something to add, do not worry about the codes that I have with it is when I'll post the article.

Bear: Great article :) You are very clever. Thanks for pr! :) This means I can reach more. Thank you! :) God's peace to you.

Me: Do not you see how serious it is what you do? You condemn me to perdition without blinking, where is your empathy and understanding for what you are doing? Continue to write on Bjørn Olav Hansen's blog, he is almost as sick as you! Jan K

Bjorn: Jesus loves you. And I wish you all the best. For me, this is just ridiculous. If you do not believe in the Triune God drn case they are not Jesus. This is my belief and I do not shy from. Can not wait to read the article :) God's peace to you. You deny the Trinity and eternal damnation and thus I can safely say from God's word that you are astray. But praying for you today. Good luck with the article! Hope you use the new picture of me. Now I close this communication with you. Wishing you and yours all the best.

Me: You ability not to listen to arguments against what you think and feel is right. Do not need your prayers. You judge me both destruction and everything else, and do not have your best wishes on top of it all! Why do you write MVH greeting? You are so unfriendly and primitive it is possible to be. Just continue to write on the blog of Bjørn Olav Hansen, now he's lying to me again and I say bully because he that he is ill and hypochondriac! Jan K

(End of quote).

Why are they being "won" the gospel today worse than their "predecessors"? Jesus says that they are Gehenna (original text) children, two times worse than yourselves! (This is about those Pharisees and scribes were joined).

The same happens today, this Bjorn Johansen Storm writes about himself following: My name is Bjorn Johansen Storm is 37 years old. I got to meet Jesus for three years ago but have called me a Christian for almost 9 In short, I was criminal and drug addict and was in jail for 4 years. Get in touch with Christians through rehabilitation and then a charismatic Bible school. There was never any change on the inside but the outside everything seemed fine. So three years ago I heard genuine biblical preaching for the first time and God showed me my sin against him, which is a Holy God. This led to repentance and the Bible was suddenly definitive and vibrant. Since I have by God's grace and love with him. (This was the short version of my much longer testimony). I am married to Melanie and we have Bethina at 4 and Nicolai at 2 years. We live on Vigrestad in Rogaland. I have worked as a preacher of the word of God in the last 3 years and this is also my calling and ministry of Jesus. I belong to the "old school" who believe that the Bible is God's holy, infallible and complete words are food for the faithful and sufficient for the salvation of those who disbelieve. By God's grace, I try to teach all of God's household with a primary focus on the gospel, Jesus' vicarious death and resurrection for sinners. Please contact me by email or phone if you wish that I come to preach at you. God bless you. Jesus is Lord! (Sitar end).

This sounds fing and good, but he says that the Lord Jesus following: "Gehenna (original text) children."

He judges me to perdition, laughing at it closest and to pray for me. He is then totally emotionless, lacking empathy, putting himself in the place of God and lying!

I'm not saved because I preach the same doctrine that the early Christians and Jews? In fact, the Jews claim that we Gentile Christians are heretics because the erroneous doctrine of the Trinity (many do!).

I take something from Rosenius that fit this Storm Johansen-minded:

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If you were asked: How do you know you are saved? And you reply: "Well, there came a day when I bent down and gave me over to God." Then this is the words "costume" you stand up with you "has curled up and given over to God." Then we say, "Friend, you witness with your mouth that you are not saved!" Others will say, "God met me so convincing and strong in the Word that he is. After that I really liked to serve Jesus in my whole life. " An older professing Christian woman took a day against a real evangelical message. She handed it back after a while with these words: "I did not know anything about how we can win." The "having victory" was here was essentially, become "the suit." The message she got into the hands of him who is our victory was not enough for her. "This is fine, but grace is easy to understand. But we must continue, "states often. Oh, how we - in the diverse teachings around the Christian world today - is in danger of being put on every "our suit." See how easy Satan will drop to Christendom today! - Not least because we are so totally missing the "pure doctrine" of salvation for sinners in Jesus Christ alone! Once God had begun to seem something in us, as the revelation of the word, fervent prayer, sanctification, etc., so the adversary, and makes us so busy with all this, so we live in and on this. And so this has become our "costume" that we stand up for God. If you then get a meeting with God Laodicean church, Rev. 3, you will have the same testimony as them, "I am rich ... rich in conviction of sin, repentance, prayer, and hear me, have given me over to God, the victory of sin ... and lacks nothing! How is all that is "without wedding clothes." But Jesus says, "You do not know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked." The fact that they had received Jesus, a spiritual storm, one convict as an earthquake, fire ... have become what they live, their wedding clothes. Jesus invites you to "buying of Me ... white garments, that you may be clothed, "Ap 3:18. With all these your "clothes" you are passionate about and keep in front of you, you are in Jesus' eyes that is at all not "dressed" - but naked! (End of quote).

Jesus says about such that they are naked, in other words, they're going against damnation if they do not find their way to repentance and true knowledge. It helps nothing to be recognized by the majority of the faithful because one believes in God a triad or three equal Gods!

Matthew 23 15 translated correctly: 15 South g, where e writings tl Aerden and fa Ride see re - where e HYK le re . Where e pdf r over sea and Dare t let nd for to about return one pro seals rendered, * and when where e fi nd r him, bark r where e him Tues l one Gehe nna s Sun n in doub el so st or degree that where e s el v. "

Final comment:

Imagine, today's preaching makes people who are "won" even worse than those apostates and do not live according to scripture. You should get more people to wake up!

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/06/nr-537-bjrn-olav-hansen-is-teddy-bear.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/07/nr-546-sjur-jansen-who-runs-house.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/08/nr-661-pastor-and-bible-teacher-called.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/08/nr-662-scuffle-with-two-people-who-have.html

fredag 16. august 2013

Nr. 565: Eternal torment, eternal death!

Nr. 565:

Eternal torment, eternal death!

By Pastor Anders Helge cleanup in Evangeliekirken in Arendal, his picture below



The notion of an eternally burning hell where lost human souls writhing in pain and torture through all eternity has created both anguish and problems for many Christians. It should not be ignored that some passages - or rather translations - apparently supports this view. It is difficult to reconcile such an interpretation with biblical account of a just and merciful God who judges people by their deeds. Let us examine the problematic verses.

Hell.

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels. . . . And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into eternal life "(Mt 25,41.46). The Greek text (Textus Receptus) says: "Then he will say also unto them on the left hand: Depart from me, the cursed, to the eternal fire, prepared for the devil and his angels. . . . And they will go away to these eternal punishment, but the righteous into life eternal. " "The smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. They have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth marked with his name "(Revelation 14,11). Basic Text: "And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and forever, and they have no rest day nor night who worship the beast and his image." "But you who are troubled, he shall rest with us. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels. He comes in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and on them that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus. The punishment they will suffer the eternal damnation away from the Lord and from the glory of his power "(2 Thessalonians 1.7 to 9). Basic Text: "And to you who are aspiring betrengt, rest with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with the angels of his power in flaming fire, giving punishment to those who knowingly God, and to those who do not obey the gospel the Lord our Jesus Christ , who shall suffer punishment, destruction (destruction) forever, face away from the Lord and from the glory of his power. " Let's go to these verses in detail.

"Eternal"

The first thing we should note is that both Matthew 25, Revelation. 14 and 2 Thessalonians 1 uses the Greek word "aion" (in different grammatical inflections) of "forever." This means "long", "eternal", "something that never ends," but also "time-span", "life", "generation". The term "aion" is therefore used both for a limited time and for an unlimited period, "infinity". The word is used in other words, unconditional on "forever" in the sense of something that never ends. In Revelation. 14,11 used the phrase Aion aionon (forever and forever), and in Revelation. 20,10 used Aion ton aionon (the eternities forever) for the right to emphasize that the punishment is eternal. It can not be undone in the eternity of eternities.

"Pine"

It is not really the word "eternal" that creates problems. It is the word "torment" that causes anguish. Let us examine this expression. Matt. 25, 41.46 - "Eternal fire. . . Eternal torment. " In the original Greek text reads as follows: "the eternal fire" (v. 41) and "they will go away to these eternal punishment" (v. 46). In the Norwegian Bible says "eternal torment" in v. 46, but in the Greek text reads "kolasis", which means "center", "torture". The word can thus mean "torture" but can also mean "punishment." Which option best matches the image of a just and merciful God? God tortures people? Revelation. 14.11: "The smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever." Basic Text, "the smoke of their torment their". It uses the Greek word "basanismu" for "torment". It means "torture", "torment", "nuisance", and according to Greek dictionary it says in Revelation. 14,11 in the sense of "eternal damnation." 2 Thess. 1.7 to 9, "eternal damnation." Greek: "Those who shall suffer punishment, an underpass forever." The word "punishment" is "dike", which means "right," "justice," "judgment," "the exercise of a judicial decision." The word "destruction" is "olethron," which means "destruction", "destruction", "doom". 2 Thess. 1.7-9 is the key to these problematic verses in the Bible: "The punishment they will suffer the eternal damnation." Paul says here that the wicked will suffer eternal destruction, destruction, destruction - that the punishment they suffer an eternal damnation , eternal death and destruction, not eternal torture. The sound reasonable, and practice non-violence in God's character. It is in this light that we must understand the other verses. It is easy to interpret it difficult. In Matthew 25:46, it says "eternal torment", also means "eternal punishment". This meaning is also consistent with Paul. In Revelation. 14.11 says. "The smoke of their torment." You used the word to mean "eternal damnation", which is also consistent with Paul.

«Consumed»

Let's look at Revelation 20.9 of the wicked: "And they went up over the broad earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. "Word" consumed "is the Greek" katephagen, "which means" swallow "," consume ". The wicked are simply consumed, destroyed in a fire that destroy both soul and body, as Jesus says.

Revelation 20.10: "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. "Basic Text:" And the devil, the seducing them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and lying prophet. And they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever the eternities. " It says that the devil will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Let us also look at Ezekiel 28,14.18.19 the devil / Satan / Lucifer, and what happens to him in the end: "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth, and I put on the holy mountain. Thou hast walked among the stones of fire. . . . Upon thy iniquities, by your unjust trade, you profaned your sanctuaries. Therefore will I bring forth a fire from you, and it shall devour you. I bring thee to ashes upon the earth for all them that behold you. . . All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee. A terror, and you're gone - forever. "

It says the Ezekiel plainly that Satan will be consumed and turned into ashes. He is destroyed and disappears, "disappear" forever. The Hebrew word used here for "eat" is "Akal" which means "burning up", "consume". As we saw in Matthew 25:41, they lost people go away ". . . The eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. "Since the devil is consumed and turned into ashes, it is reasonable that the lost who go to the same fire, suffering the same fate. They are also consumed and becomes ashes. There is a total destruction, and as we shall see, is also the soul destroyed in this fire. It is neither root nor branch left, says the prophet Malachi: "For behold, the day cometh! It burns like a furnace. When all the proud and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. . . . And you shall tread down the wicked. They shall be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I act, says the Lord of hosts "(Malachi 4,1.3). The wicked will burn up, says Malachi, and there is no root or branch back, ie nothing. They turn into ashes, he says. They will be destroyed.

Sodom / Gomorrah

"Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven. He overthrew those cities and all the plain, all the inhabitants of the cities, and all that grew on the ground. . . . Early morning Abraham went to the place where he had stood before the LORD, and he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah and all the land, and, behold, the smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace. How it happened, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the destruction, when he overthrew the cities in which Lot dwelt in "(Gen. 1 19,24.25,27-29). ". . . Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around, like in the same way as these fornication, and going after strange flesh, and now is an example of our eyes and suffer the punishment of eternal fire "(Jude 7). Basic Text: ". . . Been set up as an example, ilds suffering eternal punishment. " Again, the word "dyke" for "punishment" and means that before mentioned, "right," "justice," "judgment," "the exercise of a judicial decision." Ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were completely destroyed by fire, an "eternal fire, "says Jude. Again, the Greek word "aionu" (the root word "aion") used. What do as apostle with this expression? Sodom flames are long extinct, and the areas in which these cities were, now lies on the shores of the Dead Sea, or under water. It can not be about "eternal fire" in the sense that it burns forever. But as we have seen, also the word "aion" means a "limited time." Because the flame is extinguished long ago, is it logical enough to interpret the word in this sense? The "eternal fire" burn as long as there is nothing to burn. When everything is turned into ash, extinguish the fire.

Soul

Jesus "the second death": "Fear not them which kill the body but can not kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell "(Matt. 10.28). Here Jesus says that both soul and body be destroyed in hell. Jesus does not say that they should suffer for all eternity, but will be destroyed. How much is the back of a human being when both soul and body is destroyed? The Greek word for "destroy" is the "apolesai," which means "destroy" "destroy," "perish." Soul is therefore not immortal, but can perish and be destroyed.

Is God a mega-torturer?

None of us would choose to serve a God who allows lost people agonize in pain forever for the sins they have committed in a short life here on earth. A man who has lived for 70 years here on earth, in other words tormented anguish and pain in billions of billions and billions of years-forever in eternal hellfire? How has God's grace, mercy, compassion, justice and love all the way? Is this a joy for the families that have been saved? Will those who believe in eternal torment answer what kind of God we are dealing with? Imagine if you were on the new earth, while your beloved children, or friends, family, etc. were gone lost. Would it be a joy for you to know that God tortured, tormented and tortured loved ones in hell for all eternity? Of course not! Maybe you are having heard the desperate screams their thousands of years, implored God to let them escape. And would God respond when he obviously would not let them escape, but they were lying there in pain through all eternity? What is this picture of the biblical God so loved the world that he gave his own Son nailed to a cross like a criminal for you and me to be saved? There are many people who have renounced God and would not have anything to do with him because of this terrible heresy. Their logic and common sense told them the image of God, the eternal torment popular preachers served, did not fit properly, so they bade farewell to such a God. But our God is not so. He is a mega-torturer that plagues and torments people through eternity of eternities. Did you find this sound reasonable? Fortunately this is not the God of the Bible portrays. He is full of compassion for his creatures. How could he give his only begotten Son to save people from sin and damnation, but the torment and torture lost people through all eternity? God is just. It is then explicitly in the Bible that all may be judged and punished according to their deeds. Is it a just God that plagues and torments people for eternity for what they've done in a short life? Do you think this is an accurate picture of the compassionate Jesus who gave his life for you and me? Of course not.

God's love

Is the love of God more than human love? Or is human love greater than the love of God? The answer is simple enough: God's love is the greatest of all, it surpasses any sense and any description. Just read John 3:16. Now let me ask a question. If a man had a child who died without having accepted Jesus, the parents would have plagued and tormented this dear child forever? The desperate screams, pain, suffering through all eternity, without delay-would you give your children such a fate? And here you will answer Oh no, no, how can you believe such a thing? But then the love of parents for their children greater than God's love for mankind! The parents would not do that to their loved ones, but God, whose love for his creatures surpasses all understanding, will thus make it? Is there something amiss here? The Bible portrays not our Heavenly Father as a supertorturist, but rather as a merciful and just God, full of mercy and compassion for his creatures. Will the righteous judge a child who has stolen 50 cents to death or to life imprisonment? Another thing: If the wicked are in hell fire and tormented for eternity, they have the one conscious existence! They feel pain and despair. Then they have the eternal life! A miserable life is enough, but yet forever! Is this what the Bible teaches?

The wages of sin

The horrible doctrine of eternal punishment can be refuted by a single Bible verse: "But the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23). Basic Text, "For the wages of sin (s) death." Can you see what the wages of sin is for the wicked? death - eternal death, not eternal "torment" and "eternal life" in despair.

But some will argue: It is true that the wages of sin is death, but it's a resurrection from the dead on the Day of Judgment, and then all get their reward - either eternal life or eternal torment. But this has been answered in the above analysis makes it clear that the wicked reward is eternal destruction of both body and soul, that eternal death. This is the ultimate consequence of sin.

Summary

Let me summarize it this way:

1 There are few places in the Bible that the wicked are "tormented" forever.

2 But Paul in 2 Thessalonians. 1.7 to 9 gives the right picture the other verses should be interpreted according to. The wicked suffer eternal damnation, he said. The word "torment" can also mean "punishment" THE CASE Greek original text. The punishment is eternal damnation, he said. This is very important to understand.

3 The punishment is eternal, says Paul. But both body and soul is destroyed, ruined, perish, says Jesus. Revelation. 20 says that Satan will be cast into the lake of fire and will be "tormented day and night forever and ever." But Ezekiel says that Satan will be destroyed and turned into ashes.

4 Thus, it appears that the there are contradictions in the Bible. but it is not. We should however interpret the difficult passages from the simple, and Paul makes it all clear. It is punishment, ie hell is eternal, not the physical suffering. Hell is eternal in the sense that both body and soul to the wicked who perish, are destroyed and there are no more forever. The doctrine of eternal torment is completely out of harmony with the Bible image of God, then is not what the Scripture says, when you go verses in detail, and it must be done in such difficult things. It is strange that parts of Christendom are doing such a terrible heresy and misrepresented God in this way!

5 The wages of sin of the wicked is death and not eternal life in torment and pain of hell fire. "For the Lord is compassionate and merciful" (James 5,11). "The Lord is merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and plenteous in mercy" (Ps. 103.8). "For I have no pleasure in someone to die, saith the Lord God. So repent ye, and ye shall live "(Ezekiel 18.32.) The Christian God is not an eternal torturer, but a just and merciful God.

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/10/nr-69-where-tartarus.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/nr-57-gods-court.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/nr-48-den-annen-dd.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/nr-47-are-people-predestined-to.html

torsdag 15. august 2013

Nr. 564: Pastor Erling Walther writes about me that I am, "Jesus-only" in the plus and let him "die" without more attention.

Nr. 564:

Pastor Erling Walther writes about me that I am, "Jesus-only" in the plus and let him "die" without more attention.

This, he writes about himself, when even the roses and even met with the big ego he possesses and has:

Photo of Erling Walther, Scripture says: 1 Cor. 11th 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with something on his head, dishonors his head; 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of man.

He performs with his hat and shows that he despises the word of God.



I am former pastor of the Pentecostal Movement and DFEF. Has been active preacher of the early twenties. After Bible school in Farsund I have been pastor / leader of several congregations, including Lista, Flekkefjord Tvedestrand, Haugesund and Kristiansand. Following completion of pastoral ministry, I have spent much time on missions in Ukraine and Hungary. Currently working as a church planter in Hungary. Have series of meetings and educational seminars. I'm also active on the home front. Is part of the independent chapel at Sødal. We live here too and welcome the opportunities to serve the Lord Jesus also at home. I'm also a member of the Pentecostal Church Philadelphia, Kristiansand.

This writes Pastor Erling Walther about me:

Like of indoctrinated and loveless nonsense there thankfully little of. Although he is "Jesus only" in the plus edition he goes way out of line compared to you, Bjørn Olav. I understand you well if you proceed with the case. Although I think that it is best to let him "die" without more attention.

Erling Walther wants me to "die". This means that I will boycott them out.

I like all the others things that I succeed and not succeed. But my service - not least on the net - is formidable. To boycott me, yes they do try. But if you're reading this stand with us in prayer and financially, I am sure we will succeed - together! and Pastor Erling Walther can "eat" his hat, he-he!

Erling Walther lying and false speeches when he compares me with Jesus Only movement when I take as sharp distance from those treenighetslærens, this justifies I with several people on both blog and website. However, the danger of lies and falsehoods, then he just do it. Here are some excerpts of what I write:

Summary and recap the Trinity!

Psalm 119 160 The sum of your word is truth, eternal, all your righteous judgment.

I think that there are a few passages that speak of the Trinity, a few more for Jesus only doctrine. The rest of the word of God speak for my view that there are two persons in the Godhead: the Father and the Son. Actually Godhead somewhat bad word, used only in Acts 17 as a borrowed word of Greeks (Colossians Dispenser letter fulness of the Godhead, Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily). God is the most used. It is for the focus to be the only true God the Father!

And their common spirit is not 1 \ 3 of God or Deity, but their common spirit.

Spirit in Scripture is never mentioned by proper name or reveals himself as a man or a figure of a person. Only the components, which indicates that he has personal characteristics. Eg as a powerful weather in the form of a dove, etc. The properties are as supervisor, the Spirit of truth, peace, spirit, etc. And that is what we find throughout Scripture that the Holy Spirit has different characteristics but also mentioned that the seven Spirits of God. That tells that he not only has a property, but all properties of the Father and the Son as he is their common spirit. Scripture says several people about the Holy Spirit, Jesus Kristi Spirit and the Spirit of God etc.

The two places in Scripture that speak most strongly in the writing of a trinity are here:

1) Theologians have pointed out several places in the NT to support in their view that God is three, three people. Father, Son and Holy Spirit together in a God. This dogma is not particularly emphasized in the Bible except in some later texts other than in the first Epistle of John chapter 5 verses 7-8

Through the Latin Middle Ages believed that the text said: There are three that bear witness in heaven. The Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. Aha here it is, the dogma of the Trinity. But this is found only in the Latin manuscripts. No, not in the Greek manuscripts of the NT.

Since the New Testament of the Greek manuscripts were published in 1516, a scribe named Erasmus did not include these verses to the great hubbub of his theological opponents who maintained that he had a mischievous way removed from Trinity Bible. Erasmus replied that he could not find this part in any of the Greek manuscripts he knew. And here goes the story. He challenged his opponents to produce a Greek manuscript of the Trinity. If they did it, he would include it in the next edition of the NT. In response produced his opponents a manuscript or at least they got a produced. Some copied John's first letter from the Greek and added these verses, and presented them to Erasmus. As the honorable man he was, he included these verses in the next edition.

It was this version that became the basis for the King James version, which was important in the historical Bible in English. These verses are still in the King James version but not the newer and more reliable translations.

This is why an older generation of readers of the English Bible was assumed that the Bible taught the dogma of the Trinity, even though this is not found in any Greek manuscripts in more than a thousand years.

So what are the most reliable? The Greek manuscripts or the much later Latin? Of course the Greek manuscripts!

2) Matt. 28th 16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had said he would meet them. 17 And when they saw him, they fell down and worshiped him: but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations! Baptize them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the end. "

Going one into studying this carefully you will find an out of the Great Commission in both Matthew and Mark have been taken in and out and sometimes changed with great certainty in Matthew Gospel. The first change saying so, "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

So it was left out and taken in again. What Jesus actually said that has been changed is that these are Jesus' actual words: "in my name baptize them." This will be the "correct" translation as follows:

Matt. 28th 16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had said he would meet them. 17 And when they saw him, they fell down and worshiped him: but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, and in my name, baptizing them 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the end. "

Who should we believe? All others both the Gospels and the Acts of the baptize all new won in the name of Jesus or Christ.

NEVER in three denominations as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Father is referred to as the only true God, Father, the Ancient of Days, etc. Son Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Son of Man etc.

Spirit NEVER with his own name but with personal characteristics that shows that we are dealing with God and Jesus Kristi Spirit. Excuse repetitions but that's because this must sit!

According to the Norwegian language rules to proper names consisting of several words just capitalize the first letter of the first word. It has NEVER the Holy Spirit but it has both God the Father and the Son Jesus Christ.

Rooms. 6 2 Certainly not! How can we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Or do you not know that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were buried with him when we were baptized with the baptism into death. And as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of his Father, we too might walk in newness of life. 5 Have we grown together with Christ in a death like his, we shall be one with him in a resurrection like his.

To be baptized in three denominations is really an ancient Egyptian beliefs and teachings which were later adopted by the Greeks. And continued by the Catholic Church and the Protestant churches and church. The doctrine is essentially demonic such as the imposition of the Sabbath sacred to the Christians also. And there are some who teach that baptism is not New Testament teaching, it is also a dangerous and unbiblical teachings.

1 Tim. 4 1 Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith. They should stick to seducing spirits, and demons learn.

It therefore becomes dangerous when one builds his entire Trinitarian understanding of the scriptures that are questionable but those passages had its validity. So is the sum of God's word truth. Therefore, one can not say that this is a conspiracy theory that some would argue this is. To know that the Jesus only doctrine is wrong and the Trinity, the sum of God's word is truth. My view is the matter!

There are two persons in the Godhead.

The Holy Spirit is no person.

1) The basic meaning of the word is wind, spirit etc.

2) The Spirit is not proper names.

3) It is mathematically impossible with three persons in one God.

4) Only the Father is God fully! Jesus is not from eternity with the Father. Isaiah 44.6. Father is named in John. AD 17 3: The only true God!

But Jesus is still God, but the Son of the Father, and can and should be both worshiped and one can pray to him and in his name to the Father.

There prevails a generally broad understanding among Christian denominations that God is a composite of three equal persons who together constitute a unit named as Trinity. It is part of this dogma one's perception of God mutually can go into roles as Son or Father without actually being there. The Bible is completely alien to these concepts, and the war also against all common sense and logic. The Bible teaches clearly that we have only one God, the Father (1 Cor 8:6) and that He has a son - who also is God because he is born of Him (Hebrews 1:8) - and that the Father and the Son a common spiritual presence in all creation through the Holy Spirit (Phil. 1:19, Jn 2:23 p.m.). Son is clearly subordinate to the Father in rank (1 Cor 15:27,28), even if he is given by the Father to be worthy of all worship the same way with him. The Holy Spirit is not an independent third god to be worshiped, but the Father and of the Son universal presence. Nowhere in the Bible does occur something like worship of the Holy Spirit. There is a total stranger occurrence for the people of God throughout biblical history. The idea of ​​a triune God stems from pagan religions. The renowned historian Edward Gibbon concluded that the Trinity in the book "History of Christianity":

"If paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians ... was changed by the Roman Church to the incomprehensible dogma of the Trinity. "

The father of the Trinity is impossible to overstate. In the Trinity, the Holy Spirit defined to be 1/3 God, and hence worthy of worship and praise in equal with the Father and the Son which constitutes the remaining two thirds. The consequences of worshiping the Trinitarian Holy Spirit, is that in reality opens the door wide open for the spiritual, and that it comes in contact with a totally different spirit than he that is called by the name of the Holy Spirit. Spiritism and mediumship has been practiced for thousands of years, and is strictly forbidden in the Bible (Gen. 8:27 p.m. 3). It is no coincidence that the Christian community where you emphasize just prayer and praise of the Holy Spirit also experience clear cases of demonic possession during meetings. This is perhaps not so surprising, since many of the methods used, eg. by renowned charismatic evangelist Benny Hinn, has proven to be exactly the same as those used in mesmerism. This means that what takes place at these meetings simply are nothing but mass suggestion and hypnosis. These obsessions are used even as evidence that God exists. How wrong is it possible to make? Jesus never threw people to the ground by healings and blessings. He got them hand up!

As the Father and the Son only considered to be the roles that God occurs in as appropriate Him, we lose an essential understanding of who the Son is (1 John 2:22,23). You also lose sight of how incredibly much it cost the Father to give His Son to mankind on the cross of Calvary. Until Jesus was conceived as a human being, he had no physical part of human nature. Through His saving action, is he become the Son of man forever. Father really gave His Son for the world's sin. There was no RPG. There was a real risk that Jesus took upon Himself human nature in which He came down to earth to atone for our sins. If Jesus at a single point had given in to Satan's temptations, He had been suffering from the curse of sin just as much as everyone else, and would have been just as lost as everyone else, because the Bible is clear that the wages of sin is death. The Bible teaches that God can not die. If it was the One True God, as described in 1 Corinthians 8:6, which hung on the cross, it means that Jesus is not really dead, but it was just for show and that God really gave His Son. What is un-Christian and Bible strange idea this is! When treenighetslærens facilitators are asked to study this view, one ends up with definitions and theses that are so devoid of biblical foundations of earth and the spiritual reality of the presence that the only thing that remains as valid "reason" to implement the teachings of Christianity is to call the a mystery. That way no one can contradict it or criticize it. In keeping with the great Catholic tradition it is considered given only some scholars to gain more insight into what it is about, while the great mass just have to accept their conclusions. This is not the biblical recommended way to go forward after the man builds his faith foundation. There are many things about the nature of God is a mystery to us, but Trinity does not fall under this category. It is the opposite - when looking for - an openly conglomeration of human philosophy, ancient paganism and demons misguided teachings.

Who should and should shunned like the plague in every Christian context and from every Christian proclamation in writing and speech! Please violation of scripture and common sense thinking of placing a spirit in like a second God when God the Father also refers to himself as Spirit.

Joh. e 4 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth. "

Can not see that either the Trinity or Jesus only doctrine is supported when trying teachings of the Scriptures, for all Scripture is inspired by God and is God's word.

The biblical teaching is that the Holy Spirit is no more or less God and Jesus Christ communal spirit.

I and all other people have the spirit, but to say that this spirit is a person will sound absurd.

Antichrist is a spirit, but to say it is the Antichrist will sound silly and banal.

The vast majority of Christendom in the 1500 years since the Catholic church was the subsequent've been doing so they have done is bad. But to continue to believe Serpent lie is folly and delusion!

Wake up and return to the straight and true biblical faith and learning.

Jude 3 Beloved I've had a deep desire to write to you about the salvation we share. But now I felt compelled to send you a few words of exhortation to fight for the faith of the saints once for all has been handed. (End of quote).

Trinity doctrine are doomed!

After I went public out and documented by the word of God that both the Trinity and Jesus only doctrine of God and Godhead are driving ditch on either side. Have not missed reactions.

But both Jesus only doctrine and the Trinity before a fall!

To give the final nail in the coffin of the Trinity and Jesus Only doctrine. I will give some final thoughts for now.

The Holy Spirit right denomination in Scripture is not the Holy Spirit with the Holy Spirit. It indicates that there is a Spirit that is Holy because it is God and the Spirit of Christ. Not a person, it is nonsensical.

Let us briefly look at some scriptures that says that the Holy Spirit is God and the Spirit of Christ. And say he is God is to miss the mark as a God.

Matt 10 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

So we synonym scripture in Luke 12 12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in that very hour what ye shall speak.

There are now 100% clear that the Holy Spirit is not a separate person, but God the Father Spirit.

Secondly, as we meet the same with the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and in God the Holy Spirit. To believe so is to believe in the weather!

1 Pet.1. 11 as they ransacked what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did until when he provided testimony about the sufferings of Christ and the glory afterward.

Synonym scripture in 2nd Pet.1. 21 for no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke by the Holy Spirit.

Here we meet in Scripture that it was the Spirit of Christ who testified beforehand what was to come. In Peter's 2 letter as it speaks about synonym experience that it is the Holy Spirit.

There are now 100% clear that the Holy Spirit is not a separate person, but the Spirit of Christ. If one will see the truth that God's word presents.

But there is also something prophetic about this.

The baton is now in the process of moving over to the Jews. The congregation is waiting for the rapture. When will the Jews to fill stand for preaching.

First, they will be two Super witnesses who preach then 144 000 selected Jews.

During the upcoming 1000 årsriket the Jews who will preach the gospel throughout the earth.

While the church will reign with Jesus.

Paul says so well in the 1st Kor.8.4b. there is no God but one. 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth - as there be gods many, and lords many - so 6 is yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Maybe this is the final truth to come back to the church of God? We believe that God's word does not speak of the Triune God but one God who has a son.

We also read in 2 Kor.3. 17 But the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The Lord is the Spirit, not a separate divine person! (End of quote).

Final comment:

I write here in the last article, "After I went public out and documented by the word of God that both the Trinity and Jesus only doctrine of God and Godhead are driving ditch on either side." At the brazenly lying Pastor Erling Walther then blends into Jesus Only etc. are only to be evil and arrogant to damage and destroy me. Lie therefore in your hearts that it is always those who lie and speak untruths. The Apostle Paul called them false brethren;

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/08/nr-21-is-holy-spirit-person-or-part-of.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/06/nr-1-is-god-trinity-or-not.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/11/nr-140-jesus-is-not-only-true-god-but.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-149-godhead-is-two-divided.html

søndag 11. august 2013

Nr. 560: The angels can not they understand us? And they do not understand salvation? And they were heirs of grace? What scripture says!

Nr. 560:

The angels can not they understand us? And they do not understand salvation? And they were heirs of grace? What scripture says!

When humans were created, we were created in the image of angels, and thus the ability to choose and to know God. Belonging to him and worship him. This image of Lucifer who was cast out of God's heaven by God the Father. Those who surround God the Father in the Son Jesus Christ in his prior life as the Angel, Gabriel, Michael and the other angels of God who is God the Father closest.



Ezekiel 28.16b and you sinned so polluted thee and cast thee away from the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, not to the midst of the stones of fire.

The angel knows salvation and rejoice when someone gets saved teaches writing.

Luke 15 7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance. 10 So I say to you, it becomes joy angels of God over one sinner who repents.

This I have been taught to believe is that angels do not realize at salvation.

1 Pet. 1 10 Of which salvation the prophets were inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that I might receive, 11 said they raided what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did until when he provided testimony about Christ's suffering and the glory afterward; 12 for it was them revealed that they were not serving themselves but us, with this being now made known by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven - which things the angels desire to sight into which

We turn the understanding of angels and us upside down. They understand us better than we understand and anticipate them is my plea. The t.o.m. rejoice when a person comes to faith, then they must know what is what! Or contradicts scripture itself, but it does not!

Will write more about angels, us, our similarities and differences. But notice what Jesus says, we shall be like the angels again. Our lost Gudestatues includes when we are restored to what God wants, and have planned, so we are as we were, again. Gods and angels!

Matt. 22, 30 For in the resurrection neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

We shall be like the angels of God, they worship and obey God. Does what we would say supernatural abilities and can move from place to place without obstacles etc. The body of a man can be both visible and invisible. Here lies a lot.

A brother who is from Sweden that I share many views with who writes a lot about this. He runs a site in Sweden - biblical temple - it's Leif Liljeström. Posting something what he has written here and we also have the blog one or two articles from his website Bible Temple. It is in Swedish:

The fallen angels father

I HEARD someone online asking why Satan was the leader of the evil angels he became. The answer was that he was the one who started the rebellion against God, and that it would give him that position. I do not think the answer is quite logical, and I think there might be another possibility, which I slightly touched before. Because when there are now a large number of fallen angels, you do well assume that they are not only rebelled against God but also against each other and also against the devil. Uprising's like a property damage arising out of, so why should it not be heard also in internal competition, to be and become the greatest. And why should just Satan constantly have emerged victorious from the battle, if the fallen angels are of a similar kind. Is the contrast of different classes and the example is only a single "super angel" or the angel who has fallen and this is satan, then it could explain his advantage. But it's still not my explanation, although it may be credible enough. My explanation is that the angels who fell with Satan, was simply his children. VAAAAAA you say, his CHILDREN? Yes, let's go back again to 1 Mos. 6 and read there about how the fallen angels mated with humans and had children with them. They thus have the ability, so why would one puree. 6 be the first time they used it? A little late getting into puberty then, right? Obviously, they had used the ability in the past, then they obviously were meant with it. And with the simple realization, it also seems quite obvious to those who fell with Satan, may well have been his own heavenly family (or his race). ... the ones where deep things, we surely can not go into? No, we could stay there and just see if this can be built upon, in their own power, so to speak, or rather the power of the Lord. Does God talk more about this, for our edification (yes even such knowledge can be edifying as it helps us understand the big picture and makes everything so much more sense), then it more. If not, to sound really religious, then at least you got something to think about. For angels are not some sexless non-biological beings (ie initially), that you should understand, as I have shown in a number of articles here all built on nothing other than God's own words. The fact that the religious tradition says otherwise is not something you need to be bound. Just because a particular interpretation is old and dominant, most likely because so few OHT thought about it, it does not seem right. (We know where it has come from.) Is there another interpretation that makes us understand the context of Scripture better, and in no way closes the revelation threads of scripture all the other parts, then you should probably consider whether or not it is the interpretation is the correct one.

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/01/nr-531-trinity-doctrine-that-god-is.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/04/nr-293-seven-important-questions-about.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/07/nr-543-we-will-get-like-jesus-glorious.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/07/nr-550-lucifer.html http://bibeltemplet.net/index.html

lørdag 10. august 2013

Nr. 559: Elaboration of the article in which I argue: "Christian Norway are managed by a bunch of devils," Part 2

Nr. 559:

Elaboration of the article in which I argue: "Christian Norway are managed by a bunch of devils," Part 2

Have received some comments on this article, here is something that I have been served by mail, "I note with sadness that the reviewers personalities Aril Edvardsen, Rune Edvardsen, Emanuel Minos, Ludvig Karlsen, Åge Åleskjær and a number of other prominent leaders in very negative terms. There is almost no leaders who escape a degrading and judgmental criticism. The group of Christian leaders as a whole are discussed in blog # 630 as "a bunch of devils," which is so shocking and unacceptable that I have difficulty finding the words. The same applies to your mention of Emanuel Minos in Blog No. 657. "

What I mean is that the church today has an "infection". The "infection" are demonic spirits who are faithful to do what is right. But they trigger each other to continue to do evil!

Tier second set, then even stone cry, Jesus. I am convinced that Carl Fredrik Wisløff said is true. The truth always comes up, but often have small legs. Last time Rodney Howard-Browne was on Vision Norway, he preached against the cardinal sin of Jan Hanvold, it's that he's divorced and re-married for the third time as a believer. Since he has not been there for a visit. I do not know, but the word of God is and remains tough and hard for the old man to hear! Picture that Rodney Howard-Browne who has also lost weight is 50 kg. Something Hanvold praised before, but not anymore. Does anyone know the answer? He he!



1) Has been in countless preachers home. But all too many, if not most are characterized by fear of each other, not least being natural and speak straight from the heart. And they "love" to silence others and not lift up others, there is widespread with envy towards others who are more successful than themselves. Not about other live right and what they preach, but if they "succeed". It turns everything on one's head, it felt like being in a large nursery where there is to do not even sit with "black-Per". And the way to avoid "black-Per" is to have some one can assert itself over and bask in the glory of one more successful than themselves. As I have experienced it, is that the preacher environment is so weird and crazy, that it is infected and destroyed by spirits. It is only and solely one thing we can "measure" our spirituality, it is fidelity to God's word.

1 Cor. 4 2 Moreover it is required of stewards that one be found faithful. 3 But with me it has little to say to be judged by you or by any human court; yes, I judge me not even yourself; 4 For I know nothing by myself, but am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. 5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts: and then shall all get their praise of God.

We read in the second verse, this is where our spirituality will be tested on and on, "Moreover it is required of stewards that one be found faithful."

Fidelity to God's word is substituted against everything else. What was important before, is unimportant. It seems that too many preachers feel inferior to others, therefore they must have someone to argue about. They talk about love in the pulpit, but the parlor goes on other things. This is perceived as stupidity to be a person in the pulpit, and quite another in private!

2) Former Editor Oddvar Nilsen was a really fake man in many respects. I started writing articles when I was 20. I wrote several articles in the Cross Victory. I called and spoke with Nilsen he took in as much of KS. I pointed out things that he actually was very often agree in. But then he boycotted me as a writer. It was thanks to point things out. We know a word in the "world" called notifications (English whistleblower). There is a person who represents a person who uncovers and alerts misconduct or illegal behavior in companies, organizations or public institutions where the applicant has been or is employed or involved. Be so in the Christian context is worse than anywhere else!

3) Former chief KS Oddvar Johansen is a truly evil person. But he could eat, have rare and never seen one that could eat so much at one time when I worked in the Cross Victory and Filadelfiaforlaget, but that's not what I attack him for. I have many examples is that he lived and was a true Christian in their behavior. One time I was going up to Northern Norway to have a series of meetings. Where the he lied to me and made an enemy picture to me. Among other he lied and said I was an insecure person. They believed in him, he was, after all, the editor of KS. I had to cancel the ticket and everything. I had gone out of his own pocket 3-4000 thousand NOK. I got money left by my doctor wrote out one sick, but think. Lying and warn against me, and there I stood no chance to defend myself and refute the lying and ugly Oddvar Johansen.

4) Clean the bookshelf di, where Satan thrives. I do not know, but I've kicked probably a hundred books and even more cartridges with unhealthy preaching. Is there anything that has opened up demons among the believers is unhealthy and unbiblical teachings, especially through literature and books.

5) My experience is that believers are in contact with each other as in a link, especially preachers. Where does one protect each other and will not disclose the other's sin, one tier set simply. It is like an unwritten law. And one speaks against someone, then there are those that stand without passing the "goodness" company and "club" that they are a part. Every church has received and has so many "equal" in the load that it is best to tie set. Apostasy is total, the church is inept and demons have infested and roof of the church!

6) Jesus judicial speech in Matthew 23 have been handed down over the Norwegian Christianity almost verbatim. Just to switch in and out a few words, attrition was then ripe for judgment. Dropping today makes church ripe for judgment if one does not repent and seek the Lord, cleanse away all, or as far as we can see that things do not match the font.

Matt. 23, 1 When Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying, 2 in Moses' seat sit the scribes and Pharisees. 3 Therefore shall ye observe and do all that they command you, but by their deeds shall ye do. For they say, but they do not; 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders, but they themselves will not move them with their finger. 5 But they do all their deeds to be seen of men: they make their memory slips wide and their tassels large, 6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7 And greetings in the marketplaces and to be called rabbi by people. 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And I will not call anyone on earth your father, for one is your Father who is in heaven. 10 Neither shall ye called teachers, for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11 But the greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 He exalts himself shall be abased, and he humbles himself shall be exalted. 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven before men! for themselves are ye in, and those who are about to go in there, allowing you not to enter. 14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye devour widows' houses and for a pretense make long prayers! Therefore you shall receive greater damnation. 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him one hell children, two times worse than yourselves! 16 Woe to you, blind guides, who say, 'If anyone swears by the temple, it is nothing, but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound! 17 fools and blind! what is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifies the gold? 18 And if any man swear by the altar, it is nothing, but whoever swears by the gift that is upon it, he is bound. 19 Ye blind! what is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? 20 Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by all that is upon it, 21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, swears by it and by him that dwelleth therein, 22 and whoever swears by heaven, He swears by the throne of God and by him that sitteth thereon. 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and not omitted the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy and faithfulness! This should be done, and without neglecting the others. 24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel! 25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye make clean the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess 26 Thou blind Pharisee! 's first cup and platter, that it also may become clean! 27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye are like whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness 28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. 29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the tombs of the righteous, saying, 30 If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets! 31 Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets 32 top up also, your fathers goals! 33 In snakes! In vipers! how can I escape hell judgment? 34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of them ye shall kill and crucify, and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel of Zechariah, Barachiah 'son's blood, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar: 36 verily, I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 Jerusalem! Jerusalem! that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! how often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! And I would not. 38 Behold, your house shall be left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name! (End of quote).

From verse one and beyond as we face exactly the same as Christianity in Norway is characterized by. There is a large gap between theory and practice, this Jesus to powerful attack against it. The attack had been the same had he preached here in Norway, but he has his Ambassadors, such as myself and others. As a preacher in "his place"!

So he speaks further against the religion which will be seen and that is not "happy" to be in secret. Christianity is something that is first and foremost to be lived out in the family. But what do we see? Divorce and remarriage rate is equal among the believers as secular. Tragic, but true!

From verse eight he speaks of the greatness of the new covenant, it is that we are all equal and equitable. God speaks as much and clear to all who are open to him. And it's not something big, bigger and biggest, we are all equal in Christ. And we should listen to each other when we are brothers among brothers. This sinned something colossal contrary. God speaks to me, if I'm open to him, live clean and is in his will. This is what it depends on. Therefore, Jesus says this: "You shall not call anyone on earth your father, for one is your Father who is in heaven. Neither shall ye called teachers, for One is your Teacher, the Christ. " We are members of one another and Christ Jesus is the head. Therefore, these small popes and Pope Scheme total unbiblical. There are ministries, but they are not elevated above community, but belongs community. For an essential difference. God can use those who have been saved 1 weeks as much as it has been saved sixty. We shall have only one teacher, the Christ. And some will teach the word of God, so shall all be tested on the word of God, to see if it's true or not.

From verse one p.m. onwards Jesus speaks about those who govern and manage not a blessing but will govern the church without being guided by God, they were simply force people who had positions, just as we see today among the believers. And indeed, the Free Church of Christianity is very bad that the Pharisees were in Jesus' time.

The most tragic of an apostate Christendom, is that this is "inheritance". So it is in the world. Are parents alcoholics or highly educated, athletes or whatever, there is a high probability that the child will be. Therefore Jesus said so clearly that he does not accept this, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him a hell children, two times worse than yourselves! ". Jesus says that relinquish to increase in scope and strength, if there is repentance and revival in among us believers. It is just the same as Jesus went to frontal attack, as I go to frontal attack. People are likewise as they were in Jesus' time, for better or worse.

How I could have continued, but the similarity between Jesus' judgment on the religious are strikingly similar, almost identical!

7) What is this falling off? Scripture answers:

Psalm 32 8 I will instruct thee and show thee the way you walk, I will counsel you with my eye. 9 Do not be like the horse and mule, which have no understanding Their jewelry is clear and bridle to force them, they will not come near you.

The Lord will give us advice just to give us a look. Then we have to know him to understand what just one look and said words. Notice that the Lord go here a contradiction that fits exactly on the Christians in Norway, they are like horse and frenzy that must have bridle to obey when they will do what suits them. Not what God tells us in his own words.

What is a mule? Yes, it is a sterile cross between horse and donkey, with little self-will. It fits exactly to the average Christian in Norway. One is spiritually sterile, without self-will and must have a Pastor or other authority over themselves to manage and direct than that.

What is a horse? The horse is the opposite, very strong and a strong self-will. But want to control and manage themselves. Just like many believers, they do not want the Lord to discipline and control over. My food is to do the will of God, Jesus said.

Joh. e 4 34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.

The believers are like a stray dog ​​leads, people who do not love and find it necessary to do God's will and follow God's word and Jesus' commandments. The Apostle Paul says, among other things in 1 Cor. 7 that to remarry is accepting Jesus' commandments. The only place it is mentioned that Jesus made a bid outside the commandment of love, this simply is a shit and ignoring the vast, vast majority of believers when they accept remarriage of a low shoe. Tragic, really tragic. It is as I argue in the headline: "Christian Norway are managed by a bunch of devils!".

8) Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold is a sure sign that we are ending before Jesus as God's word says to:

2 Tim. 4 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts take themselves teachers in droves, because the itching ears, 4 and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and be turned unto fables.

I have written about so much, I just ask you to look at what I've written. Of course there are good programs on Vision Norway and there are good things with Hanvold, this is where the seduction and the possibility of seduction lies. That is what is negative and unbiblical making it the giant and big Satan seduction Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold represents and is.

9) Arne Bakken retreat in the Pentecostal movement. I warned against this, he should be advised to David Ostby and Morgan Kornmo. They did not believe me. Then I thank the tapes where Bakken taught JDS doctrine. Even then they would not listen to me. The hill got its recommendation and worked example the Pentecostal church in power, before he flew with herbal prostitution, pimping and was overdosed and died. What judgment will they get that got him into the Pentecostal movement even when I warned them? God alone knows! But such people are ruled by God? Never life!

10) I began to see this falling when I was about. 20 to 22 years old, I mean really understand the context and everything. This is almost thirty years ago. The last thirty years have seen the development, warned against it and lived even just the opposite. It seemed like a spur to me to be different. How does the drop on you?

I do not know everything, do not assume full answer, but Scripture speaks very serious and derogatory towards the opening up of this, although it also exists and is much "good" and "biblical" within its these circuits.

Jak 3 10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brothers! this need not be so. 11 Doth a fountain of the same came newly up sweet water and bitter? 12 Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries, or a vine figs? Neither a fountain both yield salt water.

I do not know everything, but Scripture speaks of a source can not wear two different content sources. When there is so much negative, unbiblical, and that is quite obvious from Satan through his demons, what then? As I see it, I have my words intact. It is true that I write in the headline: "Christian Norway are managed by a bunch of devils!".

Why almost hate Christians me and my service? I speak clearly, clear and constructive about this. I put it in the system, revealing and reinstall everything bit by bit. This is not acceptable and accepted, even though it is I who have "right" and the other "wrong." One should live with lies and truth together, wrong and right, this scripture says we should not!

Final comment:

What I have tried to explain, is that just as there is cancer in the body of Christ. What is it? Disobedience to God's word. Should there be any change, so we must return to God's own words, both in life and learning. Deny ourselves and our own flesh, but what happens? Although obvious sins do nothing than to, what about the hidden?

1 Tim 5:24 And some people's sins are obvious and precede them to judgment, but in others they follow after.

Of course, not everything that happens among believers only evil. There is much good. But if one points out what is wrong and unbiblical empty inspired by the evil. Then a continuous squeezed and pushed out! This is where the cardinal error and sin. One can not bear reproof and instruction!

Psalm 50:17 hast hated discipline and cast my words behind thee.

I have been and a single instrument in God's hand, unlike Hanvold and many others I have "succeeded" to live in accordance with God's word. And I hold out the word of God, to one and all! That this will not be tolerated and liked, I can not help, I believe more in God's word and what God says there than anywhere else. Then it go as it will go, but to reject, change and put the word of God and God's commandments to the side, never in my life if I do it, never!

Related links: http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/07/nr-549-christian-creeds.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/08/nr-557-elaboration-of-article-in-which.html