onsdag 30. november 2016

No. 1411: Jan Aage Torp "advertising" on their blog and in prime time on Vision Norway, that his "new" goal now is to commit suicide!

No. 1411:
Jan Aage Torp "advertising" on their blog and in prime time on Vision Norway, that his "new" goal now is to commit suicide!

Has received comments on this!

I think it's just sad with the recent initiative to Jan Aage Torp where he says: "On November 3, I was a guest of my friend Jan Hanvold TV Vision Norway, where I chose to tell frankly that I over the last six to seven months has been on the brink of suicide on three occasions! "

To me it indicates that a man who basically also environmental hazard when, inclusive Polti at Manglerud Oslo District Court believe such a man!

But the world has been deceived before, Hitler wondered 80 Million Germans to failure!
The history just repeats itself, though Torp and Hitler can not be compared on both enough have roughly the same diagnosis!

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/11/no-1408-jesus-extended-christianity.html

Fax Mile from Jan Aage Torp's blog where he revel in hatred, slander and lies! The man is obviously very, very sick and dangerous to their surroundings!


I think Torp will never accomplish this. For it is he too selfish to.
But this is what his writing on his blog:



On November 3, I was a guest of my friend Jan Hanvold TV Vision Norway, where I chose to tell frankly that I through the last six or seven months has been on the brink of suicide on three occasions!

This writes Jan Aage Torp on his blog, the man is åepnbar very, very sick. And receives in return for the life he has liver.
Got denn SMS of a brother when he saw what January Aage Torp had written!

As you sow, so reaping one, it says.
Jan-Aage Torp has sown a mean streak and broken human destinies up throughout life.
Now reaping his anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts.
Fully deserved. I think not at all sorry for him.
I just hope that Aina takes to wit before he takes with her in the undertow.
Although she has taken a wrong choice, then I feel sorry for her.
It's not so easy when you have been brainwashed by a psychopath since you were a little girl!

Final Comment:

It's just to say that this man is extremely dangerous in the sense that he is able to fool so many!

He has managed now to fool both Manglerud Polti and Oslo District Court, what comes next?


Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/09/no-1324-narr-apostel-jan-aage-torp-is.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/09/no-1322-vebjrn-selbekk-and-newspaper.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/07/nr-540-christian-norway-are-managed-by.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/09/nr-376-remarriage-any-problem-no-it-is.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/07/nr-333-is-remarried-ministers-worse.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/10/nr-71-emanuel-minos-had-gone-from-being.html http://janchristensen.net/index2.php?side=video

tirsdag 29. november 2016

No. 1410: Syvendags Adventist preaching that nonbelievers should not be tormented forever but destroyed in accordance with the Bible's teaching!

No. 1410:
Syvendags Adventist preaching that nonbelievers should not be tormented forever but destroyed in accordance with the Bible's teaching!

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/11/no-1409-it-is-medieval-heresy-that-god.html

Image of thought how it happens to a person who failed to accept Jesus, and his name was not found written in the Book of Life!
Here he is about to be destroyed!



From the international since their: 

https://www.adventist.org/en/beliefs/restoration/death-and-resurrection/article/go/0/waking-up-to-eternity/

6. The unrepentant will be resurrected after the millennium to face judgment: The unrepentant are not resurrected at the second coming of Jesus. They Remain "sleeping" in an unconscious state until the end of the millennium, the wooden hour They are resurrected (see Rev. 20: 5). This resurrection occure before the final judgment (verses 12, 13). It Seems only fitting That Those Who are to be judged will be presented When The final verdict is given. Jesus speaks of this time: "For a time is coming When all Who are in Their graves will hear his voice and come out-Those Who havedone what is goodwill rise to live, and Those Who havedone what is evil will rise two be condemned "(John 5:28, 29).

7. The punishment of the unrepentant is called the second death: After the final judgment the unrepentant the receive Their punishment. This punishment is called the second death. "Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose is name was not found underwritten in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire "(Rev. 8:14 p.m., 15; see also 21: 8). The Bible Also uses words suchlike as "perishing" and "destruction" in speaking of the ultimate fate of the unrepentant (eg, 2 Peter 3: 7, 9; John 3:16; Heb. 10:28; Mal. 4: 1 ). These descriptions confirm That the second death refers two annihilation (or extinction) of the unrepentant, ratherthan a Continual and eternal conscious torment.

8. Death itself will be destroyed in the end: Death is a cruel and bitter enemy. However, it will be overcome. As 1 Corinthians 3:26 p.m. Clearly states: "The last enemy to be destroyed is death" (see also Rev. 8:14 p.m.). The book of Revelation describe what eternity will be like for the saved: "There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away" (Rev. 21: 4).

translated:
6. unrepentant will be resurrected after the millennium to judgment: The unrepentant not resurrected at Christ's return. They remain "sleeping" in an unconscious state until the end of the millennium, and when they will be resurrected (see Rev. 20: 5). This resurrection occurs before the final judgment (verses 12, 13). It seems only fitting that those who will be judged will be present when the final judgment is given. Jesus speaks about this time: "For a time is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out and those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned "(John 5:28, 29).

7. The penalty for the unrepentant is called the second death: After the final judgment the unrepentant receive their punishment. This punishment is called the second death. "Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire" (Revelation 8:14 p.m., 15; see also 21: 8). Bible also uses words such as "perishing" and "destruction" in talking about the ultimate fate of unrepentant (eg 2 Peter 3: 7, 9, John 3:16, Hebrews 10:28, Mal 4: .. 1) . These descriptions confirm that the second death refers to extinction (or extinction) of the unrepentant, rather than a continual and eternal conscious torment.

8. Death itself will be destroyed at the end: Death is a cruel and bitter enemy. However, it will be overcome. As 1 Corinthians 3:26 p.m. clearly states: "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death" (see also Rev. 8:14 p.m.). Revelation describes what eternity will be like for the saved: "There will be no more death mourning nor outcry nor pain, for the old order of things has passed away" (Revelation 21: 4).
(End of quote.)

Here is what a Pastor in Adventists preach on their own blog.

Adventists and the millions of other evangelical Christians who share our view, is neither helvetes- or domsfornektere. We believe everything the Bible writes about the final settlement with sin.

We believe that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23), but the gift of God is eternal life. We believe that God alone is immortal (1 Tim 6:16) and that we humans ourselves are impermanent (1 Cor 15.53). We believe in the resurrection, many stand up to eternal life and others to judgment (Jn 5.28 to 29). We believe perdition fire means that both soul and body perish (Matt 10.28 Matt 3.12; Rev 20.9), and we believe there will come a day where there is no outcry nor pain or torment anymore ( Rev. 21.1-4) and where God has become all in all (1 Cor 15.28). When Jesus speaks of "gehenna", as our Norwegian Bibles translate the word "hell" is the way we see it a case of be outside salvation - where there is no eternal life of any kind. The experience of hell is therefore limited because one away from God dies and ceases to exist. Adventists do not believe God judges some to eternal conscious torment, Our Country should after listening to panel conversation understood that there are many alternative ways to use the word hell. To deny that the Bible teaches eternal conscious torment is not to be hell denies.

Many of us Adventists allow us in light of our image of God also a generous hope: Because of Jesus's atoning death on the cross where He bore all the sins of the world and reconciled the world to himself (1 John 2.2, 2 Cor 5.19 to 20; ), we dare to hope that many people in this life have longed for a fair and good world (Matt 5,6) will stand up to eternal life in God's kingdom, even though they were not fortunate enough to experience life with God in Christ while they lived. We did not experience that this in no way makes it less important to confront evil and darkness in this world with God's love and the offer to become citizens of the kingdom of God already now!

Sincerely
Harald Giesbrecht

Final Comment:

What Adventists preach and teach about God's punishment against the people who are not found worthy to live with God.
Is the way I see it, the very overstemmelse with God's word!

mandag 28. november 2016

No. 1409: It is a medieval heresy that God will torment people forever, scripture says that they should be destroyed in with Satan in the lake of fire if they fail to believe in God's offer of salvation in Christ Jesus!

No. 1409:
It is a medieval heresy that God will torment people forever, scripture says that they should be destroyed in with Satan in the lake of fire if they fail to believe in God's offer of salvation in Christ Jesus!

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/11/no-1406-terje-hegertun-professor-at.html

Also retired Bishop Tor B. Jørgensen argues about the same as Hegertun. Should of course be careful to label others, but in my eyes, these wolves in sheep's clothing who believe that all people are "saved" in the end!



Terje Hegertun has publicly gone out to proclaimed together with retired Bishop Tor B. Jørgensen that life has only one output, it is God's eternal Heaven.
When all people regardless of believe or not believe. Here there is only one open port, then all people will eventually come to God!

Scripture is very, very clear. Life has two exits. Whether a life together with God the Father in eternity.
If one is not accounted worthy to be part of God's eternal Heaven.
So learn Scripture that Satan, the Antichrist and the false prophet shall be destroyed in the Lake of Fire.
Anyone who is not worthy of God's eternal heaven will be destroyed or "burned" up if they do not have their names written in the book of the Lamb!

It had been a contradiction that God should tormented, troubled and tortured people for eternity. Just because they did not accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior.

Do you have Jesus as your personal savior? Do not live in sin? Then the chances are that you will be found worthy within its the living God!

1 Jn. b. 5. 9 If we receive the witness of men, God's testimony is greater; for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 Whoever believes in the Son of God hath the witness in himself; he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he has not believed the testimony that God hath testified of his Son. 11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that ye may know that ye have eternal life, you who believe in the Son of God's name.

This is where the whole Gospel is. How do you feel about Jesus? Everything else in life is earnest paramount importance.

Notice these strong words here: "He who has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God hath not life. «

Furthermore, in v. 13: "These things have I written unto you that ye may know that ye have eternal life, who believe in the Son of God's name.

It is through faith in Jesus that we are accepted within its the living God!

Terje Hegertun take a position on this important issue in analyzing his own heart. But what scripture says about our hearts?

Jeremiah 17. 9 The heart is deceitful, more than all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Yes, who can know it? Some good will come there from, and something evil. Relying on this is like relying on a ship sprung a leak!

I think actually the Cross Victory responded Terje Hegertun very well, taking out some of their corresponding to Hegertun which they shall receive praise in from me.

He has several bouncy questions but should not a theology professor rather been based on the Bible than in their own philanthropic heart? He says: "I believe that the unconditional grace is a consequence of the absolute love. The idea of ​​a vengeful God is therefore excluded. "To answer Paul:" Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave punishment to God. For it is written: The punishment is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord "(Romans 12.19). There comes a day of judgment, one reckoning; Paul wants his friends to know it.

righteous judgment

Hegertun asks: "In a judicial perspective, what does it mean that God's mercy is for those who deserve it least and that God loves his enemies?" And a little further out of "God's final judgment ... that we must assume that it is going to reflect one just and merciful God ... "Good thoughts. For God loves his enemies, is the very essence of grace age (between Jesus' death and his last coming to judgment / salvation), expressed as follows by Paul: "When we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through his Son's death "(Rom 5:10).

But Paul also writes about the "righteous judgment" about what "is righteous in God's eyes," namely that Christians in Thessalonica to "get the kingdom of God," while "Those who cause you troubles, he will give troubles in return." I agree with Hegertun that we should keep 'popular fortapelsesfortellinger (...) on solid distance. " But what about Paul, who also knows how?

How shall it be when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his angels in power and majesty. He comes in flaming fire and leads punishment on those who do not know God and who obey not our Lord Jesus Christ. Their punishment will be eternal destruction away from the Lord's face and from his glory and power, the day he comes to be glorified in his saints, and be honored among all believers (2 Thess 1.5-10).

Trang and narrow

Hegertun discusses "how reasonable it is" that we in our "short years on earth" must "make choices that will be decisive for an eternity." But is not that man's greatness that we of God has been given the choice to answer yes or no to his call? Challenged not Jesus many individuals there and then in their lives? The rich young man, who would take leave of those at home for example. They hit their eternity choice, so we must do.

Regarding the sleep well in a world with people "who do not believe" that will go "lost forever", rhyme it? Yes, it rhymes, for we need sleep to function well and both Jesus and Paul have said that we live our lives the best without concern and sustained "joy" in the hearts. It is Jesus who has taken the world sorry for themselves; it neither can nor should we. We suffer because of destruction, but the Bible tells me that it should not take my sleep. Instead I'll go out and preach the gospel!

Hegertun says that "issues affecting (...) my meeting with relevant biblical texts and distinguishes between those who" speak clearly (...) while others are ambiguous. " But not for the first exegesis rule to interpret the ambiguous passages in the light of the clear anymore? Jesus actually prophesied that "wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat. But small is the gate and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there be that find it "(Matthew 7.13 to 14).

Jesus' teachings

I see that Hegertun, like Bishop Emeritus T. B. Jorgensen and Hegertun colleague Hegstad uses the phrase "perdition opportunity" (Day, Hell debate, 9/27/16). John 3:16 says the opposite, namely that salvation is the opportunity; perdition reality: "For God loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Paul says that we (believers) was "by nature under God's wrath, even as others" (Eph 2,3). And you will remain under the wrath of God without the blood of Jesus covers you, you will perish, says the word of God. That's where salvation comes in as possible. "What a hell emerges as, it is only our own reality that regularly gives us some impression," said the concretized with atrocities in Aleppo and "unspeakable violations, abuse and humiliation."

Hell is a much abused word in the press, on everything from a lost football match to Islamist and incestforbryteres evil. David Pawson, known preacher on Youtube, answers journalists asking him about hell rhymes with the words of Jesus about love: "Everything I learned about hell, I have learned of Jesus. Shall we take the words of Jesus about love that's true, but his words about hell as false? "When changed theme.

Hell is, as previously mentioned "an eternal destruction away from the Lord's face and from his glory and power"; a conscious life away from God. If God should have been pleased with kind, well-meaning people, he had once said: My Son's sacrifice was not perfect. But that was it. Bigger is therefore love as "not (is) that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1 Jn 4:10).
(End of quote.)

Has written so much about this topic, read the the articles and you will surely be enriched. And if you have questions, send it to me.

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-147-will-god-allow-all-wicked-and.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-146-is-god-monster-dictator-or.html

lørdag 26. november 2016

No. 1408: Jesus 'extended' Christianity persecution into something far more than losing your life physically!

No. 1408:
Jesus 'extended' Christianity persecution into something far more than losing your life physically!

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/11/no-1407-christianity-persecution-must.html

Photo of the evil Haman, who made a gallows for Mordecai, as he himself was hanged in. It was the word I got when Torp came with her fictitious review.


Jan Aage Torp who makes false accusations against me as it is my view of remarriage that is the "problem". Nothing else when he verbally have gone much, much longer than me to write and speak against me than I of him. Here try himself to take his own son, and in prime time on NRK.

In prime time gives Jan Aage Torp son blame for his problems, talk about being a psychopath and dangerous!



In prime time gives Jan Aage Torp son blame for his problems, talk about being a psychopath and dangerous!

At Polti and Oslo City Court sets its bit to such a person, only shows that the condition here in Norway is something like North Korea if the judgment against me is maintained!
Torp is really kristendomsforfølgere of rank, and those who go with him likewise!
Therefore, loathe this man and turn away from him, he is living in adultery!
But too bad is it not here in Norway, I do not think! Belief in that judgment are repealed and Torp are convicted of false accusations against me, finally!

Acts 14. 22 They strengthened the disciples, exhorting them to continue in the faith, saying: "We must enter the kingdom of God through many tribulations."

I think the basis of the word of God, that Christianity persecution is far more than just physical punishment or violence against anyone who believes in God and His Beloved Son Jesus Christ.

Yes, there is that too. But far more than this. We read about this here taken from the web:

Norwegian Encyclopedia - Persecution, in human rights context a rough form of infringement, where the government or powerful people making repeated attacks on individuals or groups. Throughout history there have been numerous examples of this kind of abuse, often against minorities; most famously perhaps kristenforfølgelsene under the Roman Empire and the extensive persecution of the Jews under the Nazi regime in Germany from 1933 to 1945.
(End of quote).

Jesus says in the Sermon.

Matt. 5. 10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake; for the kingdom of heaven is theirs. 11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you and lie to you allspice evil for my sake. 12 Rejoice and rejoice! for your reward is great in heaven; for so persecuted they the prophets who were before you.

Notice that Jesus focuses on in terms of persecution, it is not primarily the dramatic. This fatalities etc.
But that "when they revile and persecute you and lie to you allspice evil for my sake"!

It is a word from Solomon to come to me.

Word. 27. 15 A continual dropping on a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike.

What is Solomon says about this? Yes, even that which is not so bad, it is bad if it repeats itself over and over again! That's exactly how the Evil operate very often to us, not least here in "peaceful" Norway and the western world.

What I and my family have experienced over the last four years, and before that as well. Is that to us all is permitted to do, but I am doing something. Then it is both a crime and punishable, even if there is a fraction of what I and my family have gone through. Polti and authority operates with two sets of laws against us, then it makes things easy!

Final Comments:

Here there is so much to say, but it's strange what I say and say. It is very bad although everything has turned out to be true!

But what we are exposed to, it's just something we have to withstand!

We have been lied on of the worst kind, not least the false mockery apostle January Aage Torp has is ceaseless. Now he leis that I am sentenced both to prison and others. But the case has reached Borgating Court of Appeal, and the outcome there know neither I nor anyone else what it will be. Although, I think most of them are going to say that there is an error in law, and then faced the issue at zero again!

This has the evil January Aage Torp called and lied on me.

In the Penal Code § 168 states:
"Whoever by false accusation, review or explanation court, Paatalemyndigheden or candidate Public authority or by Mutilation or Away Clean Else af Evidence or Provision af false evidence or mod better Vidende paa candidate Maad seeking that forcing one candidate sigt or Fældelse for a strafbar Action or as accessory thereto, shall, if there are traded on a crime, with Fængsel from 6 months indtil 8 Aar and, if there are traded for a Misdemeanour, with Fængsel indtil 4 Aar. "

Here it is as Jan Aage Torp has done, and enticed the police and the courts to achieve this:
From VL: - What do you expect from Christensen, Torp? - I expect that he erases everything that he has written about all, I'm going to address to Google and request that they remove all this material from their search engine. But then there must be a final judgment. (End of quote).

Jan Aage Torp has called me for the ugliest, the ugliest thing. Blue. I'm Anders Behring Breivik sympathizer, supporter and fan. Hehe, it's so far from the truth it is possible to get, but it is his false accusations that are criminal. He has reviewed me to achieve that I should stop preaching against remarriage and mentioning him as a person who is an adulterer according to God's word.

Receives inquiries asking why I believe that as Jan Aage Torp has written and spoken about me is not punishable. But what I have written and spoken about him is punishable. For it is only to say that I look at nothing of what Torp has written about me as a criminal offense, although he surpasses me a ten-fold.
It's his review of mine who is a criminal, as there are false accusations. He builds his review of a thing, but it is to achieve another purpose which is the goal. Therefore he instructs both the police and everyone else, that he should have a judgment to go to google with. Then there's my preaching against remarriage which he hates, and it is actually on the English blog that he dislikes the strongest, the he has a hatred which is huge!

Jan Aage Torp has falsely accuse me as it is my view and preaching about remarriage that is the "problem". Not what I have called him or anything else, which surpasses he me many times. The review is fictional as it is to achieve something quite different than what he says. He lies and manipulates. Notice that he is now concerned only with one thing, the same as Polti. It is that I have not written and spoken anything criminal, but it is the quantity of it all. This lie is Torp, police now completely agreed. But that said, crime is at in my and many others' assessment.

In this article it was only to clarify what I've reviewed in Jan Aage Torp, it's false accusations. Not what he has written and spoken about me if it is inferior and totally out of berry-picking.

This stands in judgment:

The defendant has further explained that Torp has been at least as bad in their characteristics by him and his family, and ascribe Torp statements made under other names, possibly pseudonyms, and statements on a blog defendant calls "the false smyrnabloggen". The false smyrnabloggen should be created in the defendant's name, but the defendant denied he was behind it. Torp has denied that he has written about the defendant under a pseudonym, or on the false smyrnabloggen. Torp has acknowledged that he has black defendants, and called him "Anders Behring Breivik sympathizer" twice, that the blog is "idiocy", on one occasion referred to him as a "demon" called him "bright liar", the blogs of defendants is "shameful" that the defendant is a "rumor spreaders", the defendant has "lack of insight in English and Norwegian," that he is "naughty", "wicked and stupid" and that the blog is "a variant of social pornography."

The court believes after an overall assessment that it is not reasonable to award Torp pecuniary damage. The Court points out that Torp have contributed to escalate and prolong the conflict by his statements about the defendant and that he spent partly rough characteristics of the defendant himself. Court refers here also that he on several occasions has called him a Anders Behring Breivik sympathizer. Furthermore Torp aware that he is a familiar figure in the Christian community, and he has more followers who spins further on his statements and forward for sometimes coarse and insulting statements against the accused and his family.

Torp's behavior has probably helped to escalate and prolong the conflict, but this came as a response to the defendant eventually extensive writings about Torp and his spouse. The court has the assessment assumed that Torp as a public and prominent person in Christian-Norway have to endure more than a normal person would need. It must, however, a limit also for what public figures must tolerate, as the court thinks is violated in this case.

This, Jan Aage Torp written about me in many different forums and websites.

"Anders Behring Breivik sympathizer."

"Should they wanted a" dream opponent ", as Jan Kåre Christensen" perfected ".

Furthermore writes Torp like I'm dirt, stalker, totally unintelligent, a Nolde "hat blogger", idiot, demon, fancy lies, vile blogs, outcast who lack the mind of Christ, common judgment and social intelligence. The rumors JKC and the truth is his understanding of English and Norwegian rather limited too!
I get knocked on the low level JKC acting on .... "

About the Heavenly blog, "which is confused, cruel, vicious and stupid - through and through. It should be shut down, in short. He also writes this about the Heavenly blog: "Jan Kåre Christensen developing Heavenly blog!"

One should probably be able to call it a variant of social-pornography "+ Much, much more!

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/09/no-1324-narr-apostel-jan-aage-torp-is.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/09/no-1322-vebjrn-selbekk-and-newspaper.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/07/nr-540-christian-norway-are-managed-by.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/09/nr-376-remarriage-any-problem-no-it-is.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/07/nr-333-is-remarried-ministers-worse.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/10/nr-71-emanuel-minos-had-gone-from-being.html http://janchristensen.net/index2.php?side=video

No. 1407: Christianity Persecution must be expected as a Christian, even in Norway, if it is covert and progress "hidden presence"!

No. 1407:
Christianity Persecution must be expected as a Christian, even in Norway, if it is covert and progress "hidden presence"!

Image of mockery Apostle and scam Jan Aage Torp in prime time on NRK berates and hanging out his own son when his son has realized that the father is not like a father should be and should be!
At Christian Norway have not defended openly son here, is a sin of omission of the worst kind!



2 Tim. 2. 11 It is a trustworthy statement; for we are dead with him, we will and living with him; 12 we endure, we shall reign and with him; we deny, he will also deny us; 13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful; for he can not deny himself.

We can compare the Christian persecution taking place in the western world what Lot experienced. That it was burdensome for his conscience to stand up for what he believed in. Scripture says:

2 Pet. 2. 6 and cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, and thus has made them the figure of the wicked in the future, 7 and delivered just Lot, bothered by the wicked lewdness 8 - for the righteous man dwelling among them, suffered day by day torment in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard.

Lot it says about "suffering day by day torment in his righteous soul"!

This is also a form of Christianity persecution, that we as Christians will live together with people who might make it incredible. As if they did not have any kind of limitations in some areas of life!

I also experienced Christianity persecution, but to explain this is not as simple as I have experienced it have come in from people who purport to be even an apostle but obviously is not, is a false apostle.

Joh. Rev. 2. 2 I know your deeds and your toil and perseverance, and that you can not tolerate evil; you have tested those who say they are apostles, and are not, and you found them liars.

What is Christianity persecution? It is that one gets in somehow persecuted, boycotted, disdained, punished with physical violence, imprisonment, fine or reduction in one or more areas of your life!

In other words, Christianity persecution taking place also in the western world, not just in the Third World!

Let me take an example of this.

Jan Aage Torp which purports to be Pastor, go to Polti with a fictitious review, which is based on some words I should have written. It's my preaching about remarriage and that I have mentioned at him there making sure he hates me and my preaching.

The review will be "imagined" by Polti which unfortunately here is controlled by evil forces can safely say.

In retrospect, as I write about this, and anything printed. So it's 99% that is being written and spoken about this issue for review, but this is what they use against me and will prevail in court with. That it is written and spoken so much about this, but then denies that everything that is written is written AFTER REVIEW.

In other words, it is both a fictional review, and a fictitious judgment!

What makes Jan Aage Torp in the meantime? He encourages Norway 2's web roll to play in the fight against me, and they do it.

That way when they write about the matter again and again. There are, I expect with a 20-30000 hate speech against me from these 2 Norway's largest grid roll, which I have responded as they have support in Jan Aage Torp entirely full and they again are encouraged by Torp to do this!


In other words, everything against me is built up to be able to find fault in me, get me convicted and removed from the network that both was and is Jan Aage Torp's goal against me.

It is also strange, and direct stykt that day, Our Country and Cross Victory has not allowed me to get around to writing either on this matter freely. Or been interviewed. This is also a form of Christianity persecution, that one does not get to come with their version of the case.

Here is one of many statements there Jan Aage Torp encourages Norway 2 biggest and worst web roll, to continue attacking me. something they have been doing through the false Smyrna blog and website Searchlight.

What did Torp? He invented a fictitious review when he hates me to preach what God's word says about ekteksapet.

Secondly, he has received Norway's worst and largest online roll to clergy me that I have responded. Then it is of course amounts of it all.

This is now being used against me for all it's worth, the amount. The only thing they can get taken me on. The whole matter is nothing other than Christianity persecution, nothing else!

Final Comment:

Meanwhile, do not go over me. yes, pray for me and support us and my family. This is also something that is strange how Polti acting. Here they attack my family in several ways, which obviously is a criminal offense. And much else that is punishable. There turns Polti away. But if I write and do nothing, then they follow with. And they also turn the case so that they will get taken me!

Unfortunately, it is sad that both Polti and Oslo District Court has been led by a fool Apostle and fool tag Jan Aage Torp.

But ask for the case to come up in Borgating Court of Appeal 5. April 2017 that there will be a full pardon, or that they send the case back to Polti for an error in law!

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/09/no-1324-narr-apostel-jan-aage-torp-is.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/09/no-1322-vebjrn-selbekk-and-newspaper.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/07/nr-540-christian-norway-are-managed-by.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/09/nr-376-remarriage-any-problem-no-it-is.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/07/nr-333-is-remarried-ministers-worse.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/10/nr-71-emanuel-minos-had-gone-from-being.html http://janchristensen.net/index2.php?side=video

fredag 25. november 2016

No. 1406: Terje Hegertun, professor at the School of Theology appears as a wolf in sheep's clothing with a preaching gospel is not decisive for where to spend eternity!

No. 1406:
Terje Hegertun, professor at the School of Theology appears as a wolf in sheep's clothing with a preaching gospel is not decisive for where to spend eternity!

Photo by Terje Hegertun appearing as a classic false prophet who underestimating that it is a destruction to escape, and an eternal heaven to win!



Terje Hegertun, professor at the School of Theology has a longer "thesis" about life's two exits in the Cross Victory online. The entire article is how I see it, nothing else than a forgery of the gospel.

It is clear that God will give redress, but if one has been treated unfairly in this life. Then give no entrance into the eternal sky. It is only and alone faith in Jesus which can lead us there. Everything else is going over somewhere else. In other words, what Terje Hegertun, professor at the School of Theology conveys is obfuscation and confusion. Of course in all heresy is there any truth, God is on the weak side. But allikvel, it is gospel - what Jesus did for us - we think this witness of God which is essential for my and your eternal welfare!

Here is some of what Terje Hegertun, professor at the School of Theology writes:

Hardly any topic is so demanding - and so important - to debate that what lies beyond our understanding of space and time. Both God's salvation and God's judgment, we must live with as an expression of the seriousness. But how we are approaching this in a responsible way?
I was just a young boy when I first started asking myself questions that felt deeply existential: what about the Atonement still has a greater range than that only a few percent of the world's population can call themselves Christians? What does it mean that God will one day become "all in all" and that he will "unite all things in Christ"? In a judicial perspective, what does it mean that God's mercy is for those who deserve it least and that God loves his enemies?
It also touches on human eyesight, how reasonable is it that a man of limited horizons and enslaved in their sins and egosirkler, during a few short years on earth have a real freedom to make choices which will be decisive for an eternity? And not least, how can I put myself to sleep at night with the knowledge that he that believeth not go forever lost?
Issues affecting both my image of God, my view of the world and my meeting with relevant biblical texts. Some of them speak clearly about the danger of losing its soul, while others are ambiguous.
(End of quote).

Read yourself full article here: http://korsetsseier.no/2016/11/20/greier-gud-a-velge-bort-menneskene/

It is God who is the final judge of all people. But all this is then not ambiguous and making a move in a fog home as Hegertun think and portray this as. We are allowed to make up opinions, views and live accordingly. Although for many is both absurd and incomprehensible. Some points I set up, I live by myself, and I want to convey through my preaching.

Hegertun his vision is nothing new - and it has several names. Here comes something.

Apocatastasis - No perish

Is it true that none perish, but that all are saved in the end? Apocatastasis means "restoration of all things," and implies that God will save and restore all people. The first to introduce the doctrine of apocatastasis was Origen, one of the early church's theologians. Are there biblical evidence for such a doctrine? Yes, says Kjetil Grandal, who has written a doctorate in this subject. Paul writes that salvation applies to all that is on earth (Colossians 1.20) and that in the end God will be "all in all" (1 Cor 15.28). In addition, we know that God wants everyone to be saved (1 Tim 2,4). Since God is omnipotent and has conquered death, we can be confident that all will actually be saved.

Is this a good understanding of perdition? It goes with the story of Origen that he was sharply criticized by later councils. Apocatastasis was rejected as a heresy without good biblical evidence. What about biblical texts above? Firstly, we should ask ourselves the first two verses gives a good picture of what Paul meant about damnation. In Corinthians, Paul writes repeatedly about "those who are perishing," and in Romans 8, Paul writes that he has a great, great sadness when he thinks of those who are separated from Christ, those who have no part in salvation. Paul is apparently unwilling to believe that all will be saved. Secondly, we should ask ourselves how this fits with Jesus' teaching about hell. There is no getting away from that Jesus set people up for election: Repent, follow me! And: No one comes to the Father except through me. Jesus even says that there are many who can not be saved (Luke 13.24). From these texts it is clear that life has two outputs and that hell is a possibility.

Although there is one good argument for the doctrine of apocatastasis. That argument is based on the goodness of God, and that is precisely what Kjetil Grandal do: If God really is good, how can he allow so many perish? Or as former bishop Per Payday says: If God really has triumphed, how could he let the devil win 9-1? This question, whether destruction is consistent with God's goodness, we'll look at further down. Maybe our constant focus on God's goodness and love of God created fertile ground for the doctrine of apocatastasis, but we must ask ourselves whether the biblical material really allows such learning. The church can, on the basis of 1 Tim 2.4, hope that as many people as possible will be saved, but it is quite another to ensure that all are saved.

This from Wikipedia Terje Hegertun now preaches:

Universalism refers to religious, theological and philosophical concepts that are believed to have a universal (universality) application and validity. In word extended meaning can a church or a society that calls itself universalist emphasize common principles in most religions, accepting other religions in an inclusive manner, and belief in a general reconciliation between humanity and the divine. The belief in a common truth is another important tenet. The living truth is seen as something that extends far beyond national, cultural and religious boundaries.

Final Comment:

This believing in universalism is the Hegertun warns. Hegertun writes: "Folk fortapelsesforestillinger we should also keep in solid distance."

Yes, this is really both a popular way and accept what God's word says. God's word says that clearly the empty ports on this life.

Whether an eternity in WITH GOD, OR into the lake WITH SATAN WHICH ALL WILL BE DESTROYED FOR EVER!

Hegertun printer finally this: "And now abideth these three: faith, hope and love. And the greatest of these is - hope.

I do not like that, here he sittere word of God. There is no hope - but the love that remains! The love of truth which Hegertun obviously has left!
He manages to sittere it completely wrong, although he will have something up.
So this is not the way to go, God's word is strong enough.
The WHO Hegertun doing not worthy of a minister, or some other believers!
Let us preach the word of God, for any event that they can and must be saved through our testimony and preaching!

Related links:
http://janchristensen.net/artiklerhoved.php?side=artiklerrmenyhoved
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-147-will-god-allow-all-wicked-and.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/12/nr-146-is-god-monster-dictator-or.html

tirsdag 22. november 2016

No. 1405: Christian people support the Jan Kaare Hanvold and Vision Norway - we see Norway in total disrepair, why?

No. 1405:
Christian people support the Jan Kaare Hanvold and Vision Norway - we see Norway in total disrepair, why?

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/11/no-1404-jan-hanvold-on-radio-1077-in.html

Image of Inger and Jan Kaare Hanvold from "glory days" of Vision Heaven, although 100 Million went flute then continues Christian people to "saw" into this Satan's deception! They should be rich and get returns up against 1000%!

How stupid and deluded it is possible to be, I ask myself? Worse than this is probably not possible to get. Believing in Jan Kaare Hanvold and his program, is nothing else than to believe in a deception from a to z.

Is there nothing good there? Yes, very much, but it is not good there is as dangerous as you can get into when you watch the channel or listen to their radio broadcasts. You can not believe that the ability to distinguish always everything from everything, it can none of us. Therefore scripture says clearly, these shall we turn from it.

2 Tim. 3. 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power - and these should turn away.


It says that Rodney Howard-Browne prophesied over Jan Kaare Hanvold to start a Christian television channel that was in English.
Hanvold "scorched" of 100 Million here, and today there is absolutely nothing left of this.

Apart from a Norwegian TV channel that they spread out the muck in when the signals are that remarriage and living in sin is quite allright when Hanvold and most of the staff around him is re-married.

This is from Wikipedia:

Vision Heaven is a Christian TV channel owned by TV Vision Norway in Drammen. The channel broadcasts 24 hours a day and has been on the air since 1 April 2008. The programs on Vison Heaven is English and classical evangelical. Founder Jan Hanvold.

After the new playoutanlegg was purchased, the channel is operational via Hotbirdsatellitten Europe and Galaxy 25 United States (North America).

Vision Heavens opinion is conducting Christian revival and missionary in Europe.
(End of quote).

prophecy:
Rodney Howard-Browne's "prophecy" - as Vision Norway boss believed in
Here you get referred most of what Mr. Howard-Browne said Mr. Hanvold and that Hanvold dealing on.

Cor much money do you think may have gone with the years as been followed, for the effort at "Vision Heaven," "Vision Norden" and other "step in tru"?

16.03.2006, under one-off meetings of ein series of meetings with Gunnar and Linda Berg Ling as host:
Rodney Howard-Browne - Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold his big lead image - goes over to Hanvold, shakes his hand and "prophesy" the following:

"What the Lord's doing with you is only the beginning.
You'll have a television station in every country of
Europe, in the language of the people.

Get ready! You have not seen anything yet.

It's not According To what you have. It's According To what He has for you. And the time you stop ice When He'll stop.

 "But if you step with me," sayeth the Lord, "I'll do it. I'll give you a station in every nation That you set your foot. I'll put it in your hand supernaturally.
And many will look at you and say, "how was this done?" And you'll raise your hands and say, "Oh! Look what the Lord has done.
For the Lord has done great things. "So rejoice and be happy.

Do not worry about the money. It'll all come.
"I'll bring donkeys in. I'll bring camels in, carrying the commission costs. [...]" So be bold and be happy, for all this Shall happen within at the next five years "..."
(Transcription from VHS recordings of Vision Norway's delayed broadcast.)

Unfortunately, what we see today roll up with pedophilia and these atrocities this is, so sitting a stunned back!

But then there are strange, Christian people that will be different and follow the word of God. What we see happen Yes, Christians should receive grace, new opportunities and what's more. But when God says in his own words, that remarriage is sin for believers. When we can not ignore this, for a breaking one of the commandments of God, have a breaking them all!

James 2 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he who said, Thou shalt not commit adultery, said also, Thou shalt not kill. If you do not commit adultery, but murder, you have become a transgressor.

If Christians believe we can win the world - but while living in sin. We deceive ourselves. We can not allowable as much as a small thing of sin among us, if we are to win the world for Christ.

We give Satan the little finger, so he takes the whole hand, the argument goes. This is unfortunately true, therefore it is totally, totally unacceptable to allow gjengiftede preachers. If we do, we bring no spiritual revival of the church of God. But we refrain from this, so we bring true revival.

The choice is ours, whom we serve and belong? Sin and the world? Or Lord and God's true church? Everything stands or falls on whether we accept or detest sin in God's church. What choices do you?
I and my family will worship the Lord, and the Lord alone!

He has written many articles about Jan Kaare Hanvold and Vision Norway, here's one:

Nr. 233:
Vision Norway is a spiritual pigsty!

Pastor Jan Hanvold here with his whore wife as the Bible says they are. Rooms. 7. 3 Therefore, she called an adulteress if she lives while her husband, marries another man, but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so she is not an adulteress if she marries another man.


I asked the Lord what he thought and thought about the Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold. Then I got a clear and simple answer, it was the following: "Vision Norway is a spiritual pigsty!".

The great harlot (who undoubtedly Vision Norway and much of the so-called Pentecostal \ Charismatic Christianity we see today is a part) has to do with materialism, greed and selfish luxury and pleasure attitude. What scripture says about pleasure and wealth? This is to cultivate the god of this world rather than being satisfied with what you have and get, so you can learn to be appreciative of the heart rather than waiting for more, and even require materiel blessing and abundance of "God". It is almost blasphemous, and keep on like this in our part of the world when the majority of people do not even get enough food for the day in other parts of the world.
For Jesus it was not a simple crossroads and death, but he has made it easy for us to come to the cross. It is enough for us, the rest is up to the Lord to bless us in our need.
Jak.2, 5: "Hear, however, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of the world's goods, to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom he promised those who love him? 6 But ye have profaned the poor. Is it not the rich who oppress you, and that takes you to the courts "?
Åp.18, 1: Then I saw another angel coming down from heaven, and he had great power, and the earth was enlightened with his glory, 2, and he cried with a loud voice, saying, Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and it has been a place for demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird; 3 of her fornication wine of the wrath, all public drinking, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by her vellevnets fullness. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven say: Come out of her, my people, that ye shall not be partakers of her sins, and that you do not get any of her plagues!

God calls Christians away from such a carousel of this world's riches and pleasures. - Åp.18, 4: "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and not affected by her plagues."

What the Lord spoke to me about Vision Norway

I have followed some of the Vision Norway since they started broadcasting a few years ago. But last year I have consistently stopped to watch and listen to everything Vision Norway to do, and recent articles on this blog about the Vision Norway I have not posted, but others. The only time I saw the Vision Norway was a few weeks ago in Brandon nail fashion as the strong call from a sister in the Lord who absolutely wanted me to see and give a comment. http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-216-brandon-spiker-offshoot-of.html
I asked the Lord later what he thought and thought about the Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold. Then I got a clear and simple answer, it was the following: "Vision Norway is a spiritual pigsty!".

I've been thinking of this what is really meant by this. Let us consider some points.

1.) 1. Kor. 13. 2 And if I gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so I can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give food to the poor all that I own, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

It does not help all that we do for Jesus (to God), but who we are (God knows the hearts and kidneys). The sea changes on doing and being. A robot can do much the same as we humans do, but never become a man. One can have all the faith and t.o.m. burn and give his body, yet perish and experience God's judgment. Deeds savior never shows and never fully who we are. It is who we are as a person that shows who we are and what we stand for. The difference here is many times huge! And that is when we must make the difficult choices that go against our own flesh that really shows who we are, not at all the areas we "victories" and "master." Here Hanvold Vision and Norway fell through when the total bl. a permit remarriage of a low shoes and stands for the romantic doctrine of Faith Movement, and its preaching and theology!

2) The church at Ephesus had heard Jesus' words of praise when they revealed such false apostles who account for the same as Jan Hanvold, Ulf Ekman, Aage Åleskjær et al.

John. Rev. 2. 2 I know thy works and thy labor and thy patience, and that you can not tolerate evil, you have tried them who say they are apostles and are not, and hast found them liars; 3 and you have patience and have had much to bear for my name's sake, and you have not been tired.

It is strange that the false apostles call themselves the apostles of today and 2000 years ago, this is probably not a coincidence but the same demons who served in the false apostles in the old days it seems even today. It makes me think about what happened in AA Allen's meetings in the United States when he was casting out demons by a religious and not pånyfødt person during a meeting. It was if I remember correctly that they have the same demons in him that Saul had who later became Paul. The person said he had a legion that is to say about. 6000 demons. I wonder how many people work today among the false apostles, it's probably not get. Never be fooled by big smiles and eloquence, it was someone who could speak before he was saved, it was Paul. Hanvold and Vision Norway is under demonic influence, it seems to be on their way, they go through the truth always, and they manipulate and wonder gullible believers. They're like the apostle Peter says trained. They are "good" to manipulate and use words, everything to "spiritualize" their carnal and selfish actions. That no more, it is because it is also spiritual powers of Satan is behind and they can blind.

2. Kor. 4. 4 in whom the god has blinded the unbelievers minds, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is God's image, not to shine for them.


Another ex.:
3) A housewife \ husfar prepared a delicious stew of many good and tasty ingredients. But it was something she \ he had not been aware of. Among all the good ingredients was a single poisonous mushrooms, which could neither be seen or tasted. There had been married in the pot and all who partook of the food was seriously ill or died.
Parallel to this, Paul says: "Know ye not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump. "1 Kor. 5, 6-7.
The slightest sin, that we will not let go and not ask for forgiveness and repent from, will leaven permeate our whole life with God and make our peace with Jesus away. If we are not careful to avoid dropping any unclean thing in our mind - evil thoughts, jealousy, selfishness, remarriage or foreign doctrine, which does not tally with the Bible - then we get easily "poison in the pot" and is spiritually sick. It is such preaching that comes out from Norway and Vision Pastor Jan Hanvold works. There are of course some good, yet it is like a leaven as Hanvold unclean and live in sin, doing heresies and Faith movement theology, is arrogant and self centered, manipulative and greedy of money. Therefore I warn strongly against him, his business and Vision Norway. When Hanvold living in sin and are heresies in his theology and preaching, it will permeate everything else he stands for and do good things.

4) Hanvold stands for Faith movement preaching, it is strange and incomprehensible to me that this heresy like this is almost totally ignored. T.o.m. Normisjon work with him, and Evangelisenteret Syvendags Adventists and others. Are they completely anesthetized and do not understand? The preachers whom he invited, especially from the United States is renspikka Faith Movement of people, and nobody notice it? To cooperate with Hanvold is to open up to foreign demons and learn!

1. Tim. 4. 1. But in spirit it is clearly stated that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and demonic teachings.

5) Remarriage of a low shoe, like several others currently engaged in such Evangelisenteret. It is of course bad for a break, for all parties involved. But those who are unable and will conformed his own house, they should never, under any circumstances have a platform service, but to pull out and back. They should be short and sweet step out of the service. But in Vision Norway, it almost looks as if one must both accept everything here as Hanvold even live as one who has the belly to the god of sexual conduct with being married and divorced several times, tragic! When will David Ostby and all others who gladly go in and work with such a spiritual crook and false prophet who Hanvold react and reject? Or they become so blunted that everything goes through the eye of the needle? I am embarrassed and appalled on their behalf that Arvid Bentsen and all others who work with Hanvold, may God have mercy on them and they must wake up before it's too late!

6) Hanvold banner publicly in the air and it is accepted. I do not understand that not Emanuel Minos, Norvald Yri and everyone else responds to Hanvolds primitive and ugly word usage, even in public? I will not repeat everything I've heard him say, it is below a minimum. But think, swear and not able to speak normally and good Norwegian and the whole Christian Norway accept directly or indirectly, this is for me a mystery. For me, a person who is a banner that is level with themselves and God who is the person closest to him.

7) Hanvold condemn others. I've even heard Hanvold said several times in the most extreme judgments on everyone else except themselves. He, a mega-crook and a cheat, rises above all others. Who is this? ................ no doubt it must be without that I can give him the diagnosis, when I am not a doctor, but for me he does so, I warn him, too. Edin Løvås wrote a book about the power of man in the congregation, when he hit the nail on the head. Once screamed Hanvold on the airwaves here in Oslo on 107.7 the following: "To hell with anyone who does not accept that I am re-married." I think probably we do not know the manipulative forces at work in some people we are dealing with? A wolf in sheep's clothing and manipulator weather you sure?

8) Hanvolds Israel's involvement and more positive, but it is also where the biggest and most dangerous deception lies. Had everything been Hanvold accounted for only negatively, as if it was not difficult to expose him, even for Emanuel Minos? But when we look at the negative with Hanvold Vision and Norway, then we should all know that we are dealing with a false prophet like Jesus to be real in the end time in a special way (Matthew 24.11).

9) Hanvolds fundraising methods are and will remain a lie and a villain worthy! This is manipulation, lies and real bondefangeri. Think, love for God when a gear and "wounds" to him shall God bless, etc. God is so far away from the channels it is possible, he said to me that it was "Vision Norway is a spiritual pigsty ! ". The promise of God's behalf, no matter that God will give you more than what you give to him, as a sore in. It is and remains a mega lies and scam of the worst kind, how stupid and gullible to be one? The Pentecostal \ Charismatic deception is a bigger and worse lies both a communist and other deceptions! They deny God, but there are some who claim that they are in God's place and give one to them, and he will bless them with abundant returns, especially if one allows a larger amount and a real giving large sums. How Satanic and governed by their own flesh can be in the "service of God"?!

10) Hanvold and Vision Norway steals from all other believers. By supporting Hanvold then encountered a channel that is completely out on the field, which is like a mega cash drain. When you hear the broadcasts as we are talking about "souls" and save money and again money. How can this be God? God says about himself that he owns all the silver and gold, a da fuss and beg and promise of God's behalf hour up and hour down about the same? If God is stupid or he is not? It is clear that one can mention such things, but not this way. It is sick, nauseous and manipulative, nothing else.

11) Hanvold live super good at what he has built up and when he says that he does not get any salary from Vision Norway, to circumvent the truth. It is through the money he has taken out the Vision Norway and that he has invested elsewhere that he lives well even if the channel would go under. He is not dumming when it comes to money, women and power. Where the supplies himself. Is this Christian and he has nothing to do with God? I see only one person behind the vision Norway and it is Satan, not anyone else!

12) Remarriage among preachers is and remains a clear violation of God's word. Allowing gjengiftede Pastors, Apostles and other preachers are playing Russian rolled. It can of course go well, but will eventually lead you on a wild goose chase! There are now so many gjengiftede preachers, that I neither do not understand that far more than I react to this, also known preachers, both here in Norway, Scandinavia and or out in the world. As Peter Ljunggren, Ray McCauley + a bunch of others. They all live right in rebellion against the Lord and His word.

13) This Christian lifestyle that seems obscene and offensive to "normal" people. Hanvold and many say that they work for the salvation of many, something I do not believe. Hanvolds business and the way he presents the Christian message in, it seems counterproductive. It is a major weakness that so many people who have lived a life of drugs before they were saved is so fast up and up in the church of God, especially those within its Pentecostal \ Charismatic circles. We will be spiritually nourished and restored before entering into a service to the Lord. Being a preacher is an office, as to be fit and able to set.

2. Tim. 2. 02 What you have heard of me among many witnesses, you shall deliver to faithful men, to those who are worthy, and to teach others also.

14) I will end with what God said to me about Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold, as I am the real truth of the said channel, husband and business.
I asked the Lord what he thought and thought about the Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold. Then I got a clear and simple answer, it was the following: "Vision Norway is a spiritual pigsty!". I think this also is the right answer and how to relate to such an activity in which a true love God but love themselves and their desires higher? Scripture is clear.

2. Tim. 3. 01 This you should know: In the last days there shall come perilous times. 02 People will be lovers of themselves, covetous, boasters necks, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful and full of malice.
03 They will be without natural affection, implacable, baktalerske, without self-control, and they will be violent and without love for what is good.
04 They are forrederske, rash, proud, and they love their lusts higher than they love God.
05 They have an apparent godliness, but deny its power. While you should stay away from the likes of them.

Scripture is clear, stay away from these. Stay away from Vision Norway, not support them financially, not set up on their broadcasts or in any way take part in their evil deeds so you will not come under the same judgment, there is talk about your and others' salvation, and to gain full salary one day.

2. John. 10 If there come any unto you, that does not this doctrine, do not receive him into their house, and do not welcome him.
11 For those who greet him welcome, takes part in his evil deeds.

To support the Pastor Jan Hanvold Vision and Norway is supporting a wolf in sheep's clothing and will also get his "reward" and judgment! Or Satan has blinded your heart and your eyes so you do not abilities and want to see the truth? This I write about here should be easy to understand based on the font and its warnings, revealing Hanvold Vision and Norway, as I see it pretty obvious, right?

15) Any person who is born again should have clear and managed to caught and taken away from this business as there is in God's word that my sheep hear my voice, Jesus said.

John. AD 10 01 "The truth I say: He who does not go through the gate into the sauekveet, but will get over in another place, is a thief and a robber.
02 He who enters by the gate, the sheep herder.
03 gatekeeper opens the gate, even the sheep hear his voice, and he calls himself the sheep by name and leads them out.
04 When he leads the sheep belonging to him, he goes before them, and they follow him because they know his voice.
05 But a stranger they will not follow. They will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of the stranger. "

I heard Jesus's voice when he said of Norway and Vision "Pastor Jan Hanvold":

I asked the Lord later what he thought and thought about the Vision Norway and Jan Hanvold. Then I got a clear and simple answer, it was the following: "Vision Norway is a spiritual pigsty!".

16) Based on the GT, it was an unclean swine animals and those who came in contact with the unclean animal was unclean, even when the animal was unclean. So it is with Norway and Vision "Pastor" January Hanvold. Hanvold unclean in the spiritual and moral areas. He has the money chaos and bankruptcy, failed marriages behind him, but "success" is now ready to manipulate and deceive so many gullible believers to support themselves and their business. The Bible also talks about the unclean animals in the time just before Jesus' Second Coming in Revelation. It talks about the unclean birds such ...... in Revelation, this is the time just before Jesus comes back, it also uses frogs as a symbol of impurity .....
Hanvold is like a pig in the spiritual and moral area, everyone who comes into contact with such unclean "animals" will be as dirty as the animal by the law of Moses. So it is today also, as spiritually.

3. Genesis 11 And the swine, because it has both claws and hooves split completely through, but it does not chew the cud, it is unclean to you. 8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch; they shall be unclean unto you.
43 Do not make yourselves abominable thing at such a creep, and ye are not infected by them, that is impure.

The Beast (read January Hanvold) is unclean. And all who come in contact with swine is unclean because the pig is unclean! This taught the law of Moses, today we can eat pork as it were role models and examples of the spiritual and moral that we currently live in and under. Refrain from such spiritual "swine" and you keep yourself clean and you will be preserved in Christ Jesus.

2. Tim. 2. 20 In a large house there are not only objects of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay. Some is used for high-value purposes, others unworthy.
21 But if anyone cleanses himself, he becomes a vehicle for what is high quality - sanctified and useful for its overlord and prepared for every good work.

It is by himself away from such preachers and preaching, and stick to those who live in covenant with God and preach in accordance with God's word. The fact that a man and a believer in honor of our God and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

17) Some claim that it is I who is negative and controversial, but it's wrong to say something like that, there are those who claim that they stand for preaching God's word and something completely different both in their way of life and in his preaching than the Bible clearly says that it is. Also those who work with these is responsible for this. Christian people of today have moved so much from God's word that it's scary, now sacred goal means instead that we should be a holy people of God as the Bible calls for.

Rooms. 16. 17 Now I beseech you, brethren, to be on guard against those who create the telecommunications split among you and put stumbling blocks in the way of preaching you are in. opplærd Reject them!
18 Such as those slaves not for the Lord Jesus Christ, but of his own magemål. With smooth speech and flattery deceive the unsuspecting the heart.
19 But their obedience there are rumors about everywhere, so I'm looking forward on their behalf over it! For I want you to be smart in the goodness and evil in the naive
20 God of peace will crush Satan under their feet in a hurry. Our Lord Jesus Christ's grace be with you! Amen.
21 Timothy, my fellow worker, and Lucius, Jason and Sosipater, my countrymen, greet you.
22 I, Tertius, who wrote down this letter, greet you in the Lord.
23 Gaius, my host, who is the host of the whole church, send their greetings. Erastus, bykassereren, greets you with Kvartus, a brother.
24 [of the Lord Jesus Christ's grace be with you all! Amen.]
25 Praise be to Him who was able to strengthen you through the message and my preaching about Jesus Christ from the revelation of the mystery has been hidden from the earliest times, but now has been revealed.
26 For through the prophetic writings and tiderne commandments of God is made known to all, all nations shall come to obedience through faith.
27 Ham, the only wise God be glory in the times - through Jesus Christ! Amen.

Related links: 
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/01/nr-216-brandon-spiker-offshoot-of.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/06/nr-5-remarriage.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/07/nr-540-christian-norway-are-managed-by.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/09/nr-376-remarriage-any-problem-no-it-is.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2012/07/nr-333-is-remarried-ministers-worse.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/10/nr-71-emanuel-minos-had-gone-from-being.html http://janchristensen.net/index2.php?side=video
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/emanuel-minos-and-co-are-like-bileam.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/05/nr-498-inger-and-jan-hanvold-are-pigs.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/05/nr-503-can-hanvold-in-adultery-get.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/05/nr-517-tv-vision-norway-huge-monetary.html http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2013/05/nr-506-jan-hanvold-sent-from-satan-to.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2011/09/nr-40-jan-hanvold-is-false-prophet.html

mandag 21. november 2016

No. 1404: Jan Hanvold on radio 107.7 in Oslo on 18 November: "I have marriage problems, and the blame for them even when I do not understand my wife!"

No. 1404:
Jan Hanvold on radio 107.7 in Oslo on 18 November: "I have marriage problems, and the blame for them even when I do not understand my wife!"

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/11/no-1401-jan-kaare-hanvold-has-bluffed.html

Photo by Jan Hanvold awaiting an apology of Vebjørn Selbekk and all others who have criticized him, talk about being a psychopath and fun last!



Listened to Radio, local radio here in Oslo.
Life Visual radio where religious people are doing.

Radio Inter FM 107.7 Oslo says Jan Hanvold radio 107.7 in Oslo on 18 November:
"I have marriage problems, and the blame for them even when I do not understand my wife!"

Hanvold, a man with much force, often speak (and play both victim and great man of God) in interviews, in addition to the own channel.

He speak out freely, openly and "honest" about things that most people fail within its private sphere!

When Hanvold speak openly and freely until about absolutely everything! And we deal with this and consider this on the word of God. Slanders we Hanvold or bully him?

No, I would say, he has even added list and opening for this, not someone other than him!

This is from Dagbladet:
Result of my sinful life
Editor Jan Hanvold channel believes Scrivner has a point when he argues that sin can lead to disease.

- With sin think we miss the mark. When a smoker gets lung cancer is the result of his sin. For it is the smoke package that it is dangerous to smoke. When a narkomant couple have a child that is born with addiction and mental injuries, it is a result of their sin, says Hanvold.

He stressed that he himself also is among the sinners who have been particularly affected.

- I had to remove a kidney due to cancer three years ago. It was a result of my sinful life. My sin was wrong diet, all that I had run into my body during life, says Hanvold.
(End of quote).

I follow a bit on Jan Kaare Hanvold Facebook page.
It is strange, who is the great "liberator" with that in Norway are all subject to laws, rules and meaning control.
But no one is so clever and persevering as he removing ale unpleasant comments and everything that reveals who he really is.

Here there is a lady who writes very well, but unfortunately. One must be quick to get into her comments. When Hanvold removes her writing instantly. Lays out some of her and few others.

Laila Homes Thorsen

Sometimes I wonder if you've got your kids to write posts, and given the free development in the use of adjectives. Your posts are not appropriate best as satire on Christmas, not as pass on a well-grown man's Facebook page.
Hanvold must live in a different world than the rest of us. Have never experienced a man of his age who have used the word dictatorship as many times as he. Norway has not dictatorship. Only reason he alleges it is that in this country it is allowed to think differently than he, but he does not like. He suggests moving to North Korea, when he gets to experience what dictatorship really is. But Hanvold like well kjukkasen prevailing in the country?
For a HYPOCRISY you doing Hanvold! Alleges that Norway's dictatorship and lack of freedom of the press. Although block people son entering critical posts no longer be able TV Vision Norway's Facebook page.
Audun Fauske, I think you are a well-grown man should have a better vocabulary than you have. With his life experience, you should also be able to argue that you say, do not just throw out sarcastic comments. It does not suit people of your age. It's possible you've gone to school with Hanvold.
When I think that both gays and Muslims must be the most appropriate in the world. There is no having to endure proportionality and persecution than these groups.
As long day, Norway today and our country deuce their hands, and silent about Hanvold and his deception, God is going to use NRK and Ådnøy. What are you so afraid of day? I sent Aker Haug a message and he recommended to consult Ådnøy, but we have not heard anything from you. Monday I shared Ådnøy his presentation "Hokksund we have a problem" on TV Vision Norway AS's facebook page. Instead of the møtegå criticism, taking the blocking me! What kind of democracy is that, from one who accuses Norway of being a dictatorship and lack of press? How can Christian media handing responsibility to NRK to focus attention Hanvold business, which obviously can not withstand the light of day?
Day: Is so famously agreed with Ådnøy. Why do Hanvold yell and scream as much as he wants, but antithesis you will not drop to at all.
Hanvold and telemarketers have much in common. Talking you roll around, promise you this, that and the other, which of course they never fail to keep. And you criticize those, shotguns threats. Sellers threatens collection, Hanvold threatening hell and "God" anger.

Annemarie Rovik Now I understand why you religious Christians hate and persecute gays, lesbians, Muslims and other religions, they must of course be of envy. It could not be anything else. We can not expect us other religious who are only looking to criticize others as a born different. It must be Jante Law that prevails. Of course there is. No doubt.
Audun Fauske It is strange with Hanvold and his fans and followers of the religious movement. Shuns everything called constructive criticism. When groups of people are so shady, like I said, I wonder really what they have to hide. Those who have nothing to hide, tolerate criticism very well. So it is with great speakers, too. They always share out evalueringsark at the end of the semester. The bad lecturers do not.
Audun Fauske You must actually endure that A.Haaland say what she believes in an unbiased manner, without coming with sarcastic remarks. If you disagree with what she says, you will speak out on an adult manner. The way you argue on it defiant 5 year olds who are doing because they do not know better yet.
Those who spend money on football game, you know what they get back and get served what they pay for. Those who spend money on Hanvold, standing back empty. Besides shelves football fans a team, not a single human being who Hanvold, which can not provide the valtua for money.

No bullies Hanvold. People say just what they mean. And the day it is allowed to think differently than Hanvold. I know Hanvold not as democratic by themselves, and that he is the greatest of all bullies. Then you turn the issue on its head. Begin to respect that others have a different view than you. It's amazing childlike forcing others to have your opinions.
Annemarie Rovik No, what are the sacred, infallible and dutiful Hanvold regret? Hanvold sorry never their fault, he just blocks people who criticize him. It is simply childish. You and Hanvold fans only confirms madness of this man. It is as Jesus said: The Pharisees get recruited, they make 10 times worse than themselves. Jesus said a lot of sense.
Annemarie Rovik If you have nothing better to come by than it says to me that I hit the nail right on the head. Is not that right? And no, I'm not religious. I am a Christian and saved. There a reason I fight Pharisaism.
Annemarie Rovik think it's fun to read your comments. It is fascinating to see how a Pharisee Hanvold manages to shape the fans their; just as insufferable as he. It's no wonder people get distaste for Christianity.

Audun Fauske Hanvold must also bear to be contradicted, do not you think? How come then that Hanvold claims that Norway is a dictatorship, because some do not share his opinions, and alleges that there is no press freedom in the country, AT he both on its own facebook page and TV Vision Norway AS's website blocking several that have different opinions than he?

And how can it be that you and their congregations traps do not tackle their opponents who are not seduced and deceived by Hanvold? Is not it quite intolerant, do you think?
Edvart Kristian Askjer Ha haha, it was today. Why should people read "god" to give money to him, when he flout make the "god" says.

Sigmund Ådnøy

Hello A.A. Sæle. You should not come here and complain. You were not mocked with the documentary, you were interviewed and made an OK figure, your husband did talk a bit and Hanvold get a chance to explain. The latter has done what he has done, and good deeds can not ransom him from critical elucidation of crimes.

You are CFO of Norway Today, probably knows little of each if certain economic antics Hanvold made.
You of all people ought to do better than to defend men who call the media for _korsfestelse_. Consider saying something like ... It's an insult to common sense, the basic media literacy _og_ against Jesus Christ his cross!

Atle Mork Bednarz · Senior manager at Forever Living Products Scandinavia AB

Ærligt spoken - there is none of you who actually read what is said? Hanvold sitting both the purse strings and as recipient of big money privately from the same sack.
Christian Norway collects money for him to engage in Christian television, and we see that he has these positions on both sides of the table.
Does anyone think that he does not use this to enrich themselves? Hanvold are already earners and in addition the money he manages to transfer to itself private under cover of rents etc. How naive is it possible to be?

Stops here, and put out an article I wrote several years ago:

Nr. 518:
The cardinal sin of Pastor Jan Hanvold that he is himself guilty of adultery and two are "married" for the third time!

Hey!

You write a lot about Vision Norway and Pastor Jan Hanvold. But you write sometimes so much that it is the cardinal sin of Pastor Jan Hanvold that he is even guilty of adultery and two are "married" for the third time, it will be gone. Then everything else he does, preaches and what it had to be also be wrong. Otherwise, stand in brotherhood and God's blessing upon you and yours. If you do not agree with what I write?

Agnar P

What Hanvold have said on Radio 107.7 in Oslo several times is that you write that he himself is to blame for his two adultery and he could not and would not live solitary word of God says. Is totally agree with you. He will be supported out of the church scripture says and left to Satan so that he shall if possible could go itself! Picture that Satan is behind Hanvold and to which he belongs and serve by virtue of their sinful life and hideous theology. And those who in some way are with him to share in his sin and come in ledertog with demons to a greater or lesser extent. So serious is this, Hanvold and Vision Norway is like a malignant tumor that makes greater and greater damage for which it is spreading, and continue living without being removed



Jan and Inger Hanvold do not live as married by the word of God, but living together. It is living in adultery, it does nothing to "confess" their sins no one repents 180 degrees. It is to repent giving and grants us forgiveness of sins!

I remember that there were those who said that Hanvold was "innocent" and therefore he can remarry. But here is one that also says that even something we all know he's guilty of two adultery. What? Since liver both he and his "new" wife of adultery when she - tournaments - is married to a divorced. They both sin to death and puts itself without passing the grace of God. And they will drag others along in their wild helpful way to do the same and that is good for them and their work!

The eyes of Inger looks demonic and unhappy, as if she is on something. What she "goes" is Satan intoxication scripture says why do they also His will.

2 Timothy 2:26 and wake up from his wine in the devil's snare, having been captured by him to do his will. 1 Timothy 5:15 For some have already alienated by Satan.

It's true what you write Agnar that here it is a cardinal sin that makes everything else is also wrong. Whether it is "right" preaching assistance or television broadcasts. Scripture teaches the same:

1 Cor. 13th 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give to feed the poor all that I possess, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

Dear Agnar and the rest of you who are reading this.

It is quite right that you write Agnar, Hanvold main sin is that he is living in adultery. Is re-married for the third time as a Christian and have guilt even in its two adultery after what he said in public!

It does nothing to engage in relief work, TV work, preaching, Bible and what it had to be if you live in blatant adultery and sin by script - the New Testament.

Sorry that is not my focus has always been there. At Hanvold can never do anything right with God and man. It's so clear in God's word in 1 Cor. 13th (Freely translated) 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have re-married as a believer, I am become sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have re-married as a Christian, I am nothing. 3 And if I give to feed the poor all that I possess, and though I give my body to be burned, but do not live with first and rightly wife, it profits me nothing. (Freely translated is in line with scripture).

I think of my own life Agnar, I have lived opposite one Hanvold. But there are quite many who write to me that I should go in myself etc. I really think it is to miss. It is Hanvold and the living in sin who must themselves first and foremost, not us.

What does God's word on divorce and remarriage of believers? Want to bring a Chronicle of the day 06/06/01 by Dag Rune Lid

Cohabitation, Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible light

Divorce statistics show that there are a total of 10,000 couples who are divorced in the past year in Norway. There is an unimaginable number and it is painful to think of all the trouble this causes for many of those involved - especially the children. It appears that one of the devil's cunning attacks this past time is to destroy the homes, thereby destroying the cells due to the structure of society. The result is that society disintegrates.

The devil knows how dangerous a Christian home is. They can be as small beacon in a dark world, so these now attacked from all sides and it feels too much trouble in this area within the Christian people. Now we read in the media that "It's like the plug has come loose in Christian contexts, it's been okay for Christians stand." And in speaking of cohabitation so it becomes easy featured in round formulations as not to offend anyone. But that does not speak the Bible, and we need as a Christian people to stop up.

The older ministers talked about the people who are preaching is. When the shepherds can no longer say what the Bible speaks manifested, then we also experience the Bible like a sore that one should also reap. When the Bible speaks of the reason that we are now experiencing in our people as God speaks to his people and said: "You are the salt of the earth! But if the salt lose its savor, wherewith shall it be salted? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. "(Matthew 5:13)

A true Christian can not compromise on the Bible, then it will also be on a collision course with who one day will judge the living and the dead. The Lord Jesus is one with His Word and He is yesterday and today the same. The question then becomes important for those who intend to heaven becomes: What word of God says about these topics?

Cohabitation - marriage

Today, cohabitation is widely accepted in the people - from the top of the social ladder and placed in the "Christian" series, but the Bible cohabitation as adultery and says that those who live like shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9, 7:2 and 1 Thessalonians 4:2-5.)

God wanted man well and instituted the lifelong marriage frame about the love between man and woman. (Mark 10:7 and Ephesians 5:31) The importance of this is reflected by the fact that the Lord did this in the 6th commandment that says "Thou shalt not commit adultery," or it can also be translated: "Thou shalt not commit adultery."

There are some basic principles that runs through everything that the Bible speaks of marriage. There are things that are immutable, they belong to the order of creation. God emphasizes this when he says in 1 M 2:24 "Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother and cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

Jesus also refers to this when he speaks of marriage in Food. 19:3 ff. The spouses shall be one flesh and jointly share the joys and sorrows that this entails.

The Bible puts marriage into a social and legal context. In the word of 1M 2:24 says that "man shall leave his father and mother." This means that he is from a legal and social context and into another, where it is clear to everyone that these two by marriage has formed a new unit that will last a lifetime.

Based on the word of God will not help out a legally binding confirmation that marriage is entered into. The Bible has no formula for how a marriage shall be entered into. Society's plans for marriage is valid, if they do not violate God's word. It is important to emphasize is that marriage is a legal change of life-long relationship status made in full transparency and confirmed by the couple, their parents and the authorities. For a Christian, it is natural that marriage also entered into the word of God and prayer. A cohabitation lacks any biblical grounds. It is based on subjective feelings and private decisions. Cohabitation is a lack of willingness to make a decision of lifelong character and a desire to live together sexually without taking on the obligation of the Bible relates to such unions.

Divorce

The Bible says that divorce is against God's will. Jesus says in Matthew 19:4-6, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall be one flesh? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate. "See also Mark 10:6-9, Luke 4:18 p.m., 1 Corinthians 7:10-11.

The New Testament has two specific exceptions where divorce is not a sin. The one exception is found in Matthew 5:32 "But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife for any reason other than adultery is causing her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. »The second exception mentioned in 1 Corinthians 7:12-16. You have got an unbelieving spouse who demand a divorce if the other does not want to enter the Christian faith. Other exceptions are not mentioned in the NT.

Remarriage

The Bible also speaks clearly in this case. In Luke 4:18 p.m. says, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery. And whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. "Jesus' words in Mark 10:11-12 is not to be misunderstood:" Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, guilty of adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery. "

Paul writes as clearly in 1 Corinthians 7:10-11: "And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord: A wife must not separate from her husband. But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. "

We note that Paul refers to a commandment from the Lord. It is given only two options for the divorced wife: To remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. The theory that the innocent party may remarry after a divorce based on Matthew 19:9 where Jesus says, "But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another , committeth adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. "

From this it is believed to have coverage for a man who is separated from his wife because she has committed adultery can remarry. But such an interpretation violates the parallel Bible verses cited above. True biblical interpretation has always been the guiding star that the clear words must illuminate the less clear, and in this case it is more clear verses that go against remarriage.

Train up a child

The Bible says in Words 22:6: "Train up a child in the way he should go: So he does not shy from it when he is old. "Scripture emphasizes that it is important to teach the young. We believe that our time is particularly important in this context, when the concrete situations arise with their own children, the family and between friends, it becomes far more difficult to take this up if not before been described.

How society has become de-Christianized during the last 20-30 years, many have run up in very difficult situations humanly and requires the love, care and confidence in the counselor who will try to guide you the word of God. One will certainly experience the need for the help that the Bible assigns in James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God - for God giveth to all men liberally and without reproach - and he will get it."

Also in these areas of life is the reparation and forgiveness to get to the turn and recognize sin as sin. God says so nice in Isaiah 1:18-19: "Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow, though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

But forgiveness and grace can never be used as a patch on syndesår without settlement and repentance from sin. Today we experience the grace used to, but it is not biblical tale. That is what the ancients called to "sin of grace". No, let us listen to the Bible speak and live the way God intended for His people. There is a difference between falling into sin and for life contrary to God's word. When we live in sin!

And do not forget that God wants you only the best, "I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord. Thoughts of peace and not of evil. I'll give you a future and a hope. "(Jer. 29:11) The best thing for any human being to organize their lives according to God's will and commandments, and let the Word judge sin as sin. Whoever does the will experience the same as David - "And you took away my sins." (Psalm 32:5)

Final comment:

Agnar and the rest of you who have read this article, I hope there have been with you what I would have said. At Hanvold is by writing a person to be supported out of the church and the Christian community. The scripture speaks of. Why? Because he has not repented of his sin. It helps little to confess his sin, as long as one does not repent from it.

1 Corinthians 5 1 On the whole, it sounds about fornication among you, and such fornication as is not even mentioned among the Gentiles: that is joined to his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from you. 3 For I, for my part, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, field the judgment of those who have done this, 4 that he shall our Lord Jesus, giving and my spirit together in our Lord Jesus' power, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the Lord Jesus. 6 It is not handsome that I boast of you off. Know ye not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened for our passover is sacrificed for us: Christ. 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with malice and wickedness; but with purity and truth unleavened bread! 9 I wrote to you in my letter that I should not have intercourse with fornicators - 10 I did not mean to ordinary fornicators of this world or the greed and robbers, or idolaters, or had ye go out of the world: 11 But now I have written to you, was that I should not have intercourse with any man that is called a brother and a fornicator, or covetous person or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or robber, so I do not even eat with him. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge only those who are within? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Put away the wicked man from among yourselves

What is this? Yes, when a living as Hanvold making or other obvious sins, he will be denied access to the church. Do not have an opportunity to be part of the Christian community, and not take part in the sacrament. For him to be able to go in themselves and not infect the Christian community. This is the way the Bible and the New Testament teachings even though the opposite is practiced and enforced today, so this is what God's word teaches!

Taking finally an article by Jan Johansson on church discipline:

Assembly Discipline or church discipline - or as it is commonly called earlier church discipline - it is quite silent about today. In many quarters it is hardly practiced either. And it is a serious matter. Many believe enough - with a hint of truth - that it belongs to the past of the Christian Church's history, a judicial and loveless age. Like everything else has almost certainly also forsamlingstukten been abused and thus caused great damage. The greater the blessing, the bigger the curse when something is misused.

But just applied the assembly instruction a priceless blessing. Therefore, it should be about to do for everyone it again is practiced where it is not now the case.

But here we hasten slowly. No human being is in itself capable of exercising assembly instruction. Made it with such a basis, it will mostly cause harm. It can either be by unloving judge ill or by following the so-called "Christian" opinion and let people continue to live in sin. Therefore we should be cautious about trying to organize forward assembly instruction. It can not organize, but emerges in which the spiritual life is fresh. For real assembly instruction is nothing but spiritual guidance from beginning to end. Therefore, we all need to turn to our "souls shepherd and overseer" (1 Peter 2.25) that he can make our own mind. How can we awakened to care for the souls of our brothers and sisters, and be filled with Christ's love, wisdom and zeal. This is required for forsamlingstukten might work. Furthermore, we think that the assembly instruction causes pain. It's not just the false, where one goes up in adjudicating human power, but also the real, where people led by the Holy Spirit to work through to try to show the way it has come on the wrong track. Nothing good is born without pain. It applies to the federation as well as for the flocks.

But when this painful work is carried out with the love of Christ as the driving force, is the spiritual brother band to be strengthened. Nowhere are they as strong as where the wires to the suffering and sacrificial love are interleaved.

Assembly Discipline in practice

We begin by reading in 1 Corinthians 5.1 to 8: "On the whole, it sounds about fornication among you, and such fornication as is not even named among the Gentiles: that a man living with his father's wife. And ye are puffed up! Ought you not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you that I probably absent in body but present in spirit, have already - as if I was with you - concerning him who has done this. In our Lord Jesus, and you shall gather my spirit in our Lord Jesus' power, that he hath sinned shall be delivered unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the Lord Jesus. It fits badly that you commend you! Know ye not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For our passover is sacrificed for Christ. So let's keep feast, not with old leaven, not with evil and the load sourdough, but with sincerity and truth unleavened bread! " We also need to include a few words from Matt 18.15 to 18: "But if your brother sins against you, go and tell him right, he and you alone. Hear him on you, you have won your brother. But he is not, so take with you one or two more, that in any word may be established by two or three witnesses. But he will not listen to them, tell it to the church. hear he nor the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector! Verily I say unto you: Everything you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. "

A double aim

Assembly Discipline has a double purpose. First and foremost, it's time to save the individual who is caught in sin yarn, "that his spirit may be saved in the Lord Jesus." But it also applies to preserve the assembly clean, "Purge out therefore the old leaven." On the way to discipline become revival warning to the others in the meeting.

It is important that both sides are included. If the main driving force and the purpose is to preserve the meeting, missing the most important one - the care of the individual soul. Instead, they align themselves to save what is left of the assembly. But what does being in a "clean" assembly in the absence of any real spiritual guidance there? Tax collectors and sinners will hardly find their spiritual home in such meetings. But Jesus is the welcome!

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Therefore, the care of the individual soul come first. The aim should be that "his spirit may be saved in the Lord Jesus Christ." As we see from Jesus' teaching in Matthew 18 - that underlie what Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 5 - the decision on expulsion must not be taken with ease by a few people. There is a case concerning the meeting.

But before it gets that far, it should have fallen repeatedly to repent and be forgiven of their sin. First, the person who has learned to sin, contact and try to win them. Note the wording: "If he listens to you, you have gained your brother" (v 15). This applies all the time trying to win his brother! Not to trap or exclude. No, he must be won back to the Savior in confession and forgiveness. Assembly's task is to gather the people to Jesus, and that means no toil saved. Hear he is not on one person, one should bring one or two more. But not enough of it. Does he hear not them, this should be a matter that will be a need for the meeting. Is it so bad that he will not hear the assembly also, there remains no other choice than to exclude him from the meeting. But it should take place now - after repeated attempts to win him back to the Savior. The case must not halt in some kind of imaginary kindness, so that one fails to take action against the unrepentant.

That the old leaven soon to permeate the entire assembly. As an example we can think of a couple cohabiting children. If the in spite of repeated calls, in accordance with Matthew 18, however, continues to defend and live their lives in sin, and are not excluded from the meeting, will their example to send a number of harmful signals both within and outside the Assembly.

Outside the meeting sees the world's children that Christians are no longer taking it so carefully to God's word. The salt has lost its taste. Within the meeting, those terms, easily settle down and believe that they still belong to the kingdom of God, even if they are living in blatant sin. Others who might be tempted to the same sin, perceive it so it does not matter. Can they, so we can ...

Another in the audience may have a different propensity to sin. But if cohabiting are not subject to assembly instruction, can not shut him meeting nor there. Thus, the one who defends his sin with reference to the example of others. Leaven spreads! And an increasing number of ports on the broad road that leads to hell. Therefore forsamlingstukten so important - and so blessed. Just applied it can save a lot of destruction.

But it is not too hard to exclude a person from the audience?

It may seem so. But it is much harder - and can not be compared - to let a living in blatant sin and defends it to continue in the assembly and then one day be banned from heaven. It gets much, much worse. It is much better to be excluded from the meeting on the ground and really be faced with the choice of sin or God's friendship, and hopefully choose the latter - and be blessed.

Assembly Discipline seems vitalizing

Where not this mutual care of souls exist, where both brotherly admonition and assembly instruction is terminated, where all sorts of sins occur without being prosecuted. Therefore, it seems forsamlingstukten with the mutual exhortation provoking the meeting. Think to yourself that you have learned that a brother in the congregation live in a sin that he neither regrets nor will forego. Where is now your responsibility to speak with him "under four eyes". If you are in any way responsible and realize the seriousness of this exercise, you are going primarily to rummage yourself in prayer understand word if you are capable of this. They may be one undivided sin which you have long tried to suppress, is as blistering that you know you have to get speech with the Savior about it before you can go and admonish your brother. The beam has to go! And then ask the Savior for mercy and forgiveness, and to let go of it - and certainly he hears you!

Now it need by no means be the case that you have an unresolved sin on your conscience. But it is in any case a special occasion for self-examination acknowledge the mercy seat, and it is very useful for every one. You've been in counseling with the Lord, and can confidently with His help get admonish your brother. Think so big! You have even been drawn closer to the Savior and have been able to see even more clearly how important it is that sin not unto leaven will ferment up. And you've probably also got a dose of humility when faced with the task that the Lord has got to show you something of your own sin and weakness. Then you are unlikely to meet the wrong end of Pharisaic cold, but instead either heat or burn him with Christ's love fire. It depends on how it is received.

If it so happens that your brother does not listen to you, for Jesus' teaching to bring you a couple more. Then these two go through the same soul-searching before they can follow you - and so is the Lord's work on the heart and assembly. It is to "keep the feast ... with purity and truth unleavened bread." "Exhort one another daily, while it is called today, lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin" (Hebrews 3:13). "For our passover is sacrificed for Christ" (1 Cor 5.7).

Resumption

Since everything's overall aim is to salvage the one caught in sin nets must never ban regarded as the ultimate objective. It is just a means to endeavor to get brother / sister to be resumed in full communion with the Lord and with the meeting. It is very important that the person subject to the assembly instruction, will keep this in mind.

The intention is certainly not to "get rid of" the person, but to save him from eternal damnation. In closing, we take a word from 2 Corinthians 2:6-8, TLB, which teaches us how to repent and mourn over their sin, shall be met: "For him it comes, it is enough with the punishment he received from the Most. Now you instead rather forgive and comfort him, lest he should perish in even greater sorrow. Therefore, I urge you: Be agreed to show him love. "

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