tirsdag 15. november 2016

No. 1398: Jesus is image of the one true God - who then figure of?

No. 1398:
Jesus is image of the one true God - who then figure of?

http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/09/no-1339-trinity-of-god.html

Jesus is the only true God, scripture says.
Joh. e. 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and him you sent, Jesus Christ.

Father is the only true God, but Jesus has shown us who he is. He is the figure of, while Jesus is the radiance of the "figure of" or Father.
This should even a 1st grader understand. That is a figure of, when an image is. In other words, the Father is "figure of" while Jesus is pictured! No, the Trinity has no support in the Word of God!



For my part - after many years of study - and by having come in "target".
So it is unthinkable for me to believe in the Triune God and a treenighstlære with three equally God's people in a common God or Deity.

We read in Hebrews. 1. 3 Who being the brightness of his glory and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, and who, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand on high,

We read that Jesus is called brightness of his glory and the express image of his person. Jesus, in other words depict, but who is when the original image, or figure of?

We read many verses from God Father as the figure of which the "original", in which Jesus is the one that "shows" us whom God Father really is!

"And in this Trinity none is before or after, nothing greater or less, but all three persons are coeternal and coequal, so that in all things, as has been stated above, the Trinity in unit and unity of the Trinity. "164
This quote from the Athanasian Creed (300s) emphasizes reciprocity between the Father, Son and Spirit. Something that we head not find biblical coverage.

The biblical texts say that it is a "system of difference" between them.
In John 14:28, Jesus says that "the Father is greater than me."
Elsewhere in the New Testament material is evident that Jesus stands under the Father.

There are many, many who do not believe in the Trinity. Here is something that I have taken of what others have written on the web!

Who tells the truth about God: "The Athanasian Creed" or the Bible?

Athanasian Creed, paragraph 6 states
"But Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit deity is one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal."

The Bible says
"My doctrine is not my own, it is from him who sent me" - John 7: 16 "The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do" - John 5: 19 "I have not come down from heaven to do my own will, but the will which hath sent me "- John 6: 38

Comment
 If the Son majesty was as big as the Father, he might not be dependent on the Father? Whoever sends someone out is standing over the emitted. This would prove that Jesus is subordinate to God.

Athanasian Creed, paragraph 13 says
"In the same way the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, the Holy Spirit almighty."

The Bible says
"But that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" - Mark 13: 32.

Comment
If "The Son is omnipotent" as part of a deity, would he not known the same as the Father?

Athanasian Creed, paragraph 15 says
"So the Father is God, the Son God, the Holy Spirit of God ...."

The Bible says
"Although he was a Son, he learned obedience by suffering" - Hebrews 5: 8

Comment
Can we imagine that God had to learn anything? No, but it had to Jesus, for he did not know all that God knows. And he had to learn something that God never needs to learn, namely obedience. God never have to obey.

The Bible says
"This is Jesus Christ revelation, which God gave him." - Revelation 1: 1

Comment
 If Jesus were part of a deity, he would then have to accept a revelation by another part of the Godhead - God? No, he would have known all about it, for God did. But Jesus knew it, for he is not God.

The Bible says
"Him hath God exalted with his right hand" -
Acts 5: 1.

Comment
 If Jesus was God, how could he have been elevated, ie given a higher position than before? He would then already have been an exalted part of the Trinity. If Jesus had been equal to God before he was raised, would this exaltation have led to that he was above God.

Various
Many ancient religions contain belief triune gods. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_deity

The Church has adopted this false doctrine, so that the image of God has been unclear and mysterious. Trinity makes like any other pagan teachings: defile the pure and simple teaching about God and Jesus. We can only imagine who is behind.

And: How many times we find the expression "God the Son" in the Bible? 0 times.

The Son of God is perhaps born or outcome of the Father in that he was created directly by God the Father using the Father's energy and thus directly and begotten. Jesus is the first born and therefore has a beginning. It does not have the Father. Father has no beginning. Everything else is maybe created in a different way. Possible without the use of energy. Science has perhaps not right, but believe that everything was extremely compressed before "The Big Bang." Perhaps it was created an equally compressed negative mass. Plus / Minus. Ying / Yang. Everything else was created by God through His Son, perhaps without the use of energy, after Jesus was born by the power of God. Jesus is the Son of God and was builder Proverbs 8: 22-31.

Jesus is the Son of God and has received a lot of power from his Father but the relationship is well explained in 1 Corinthians 15: 24-28.

Final Comment:

Who is the only true God? Jesus? No, only the Father, Abba Father. Jesus called him also for his Father and he was bigger than him!

1 Tim. 1. 17 to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever! Amen.

Who is this? Not Jesus, he has shown us who God is, and he has seen.
It is God the Father, who is the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever! Amen.

Treenighstlære is some arbitrary, unbiblical and anti-Christian and anti-Jewish teachings, a total stranger from God's word!

Related links:
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2016/01/no-1104-baptism-three-titles-or-three.html
http://the-heavenly-blog.janchristensen.net/2015/11/no-1080-great-commission-to-baptize-in.html

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